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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 17, 2014, 02:45:06 PM
Now Ripple introduced Smart Contracts https://ripple.com/blog/smart-oracles-building-business-logic-with-smart-contracts/ wait till Nxt copies that and gives it some fancy name like "von Clevernous of Contractorous" lol

Yes, while Ripple is still talking about the concept of Smart Contracts, Nxt has done the coding and is implementing the Smart Contracts - https://nxtforum.org/smart-contracts/express-your-wish-(smart-contracts)/

Actually ripple was in smart contracts talk 2 years ago (you can probably still find articles with jed about it). What they did is made it user friends for any developer to use on ripple.
162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 17, 2014, 02:38:52 PM
Like I said, check the numbers, then come back, 100 nxt nodes was many moons ago.

Yeah, I said now is probably 150.
163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 17, 2014, 02:32:30 PM
Its mostly run by businesses, banks, gateways, and eco system developers because with rippled server you do a lot more then only with client.

So, are you saying it's mostly centrally regulated entities running ripple servers? Well, just like I said, it's not decentralized. It just means the network has more than one center, but they are still centers.

Those are your words not mine, most of rippled servers are run by developers  and ripple supporters. Although business and banks run them too.

And your logic is really funny, so if 100 nodes run nxt that doesnt mean that network has more then 1 center but they are still centers? lol (now compare that to over 1000 of ripple and tell me which is more centralized).

EDIT: wouldnt you be happy if amazon started to accept nxt and run a wallet or would you call it central control situation? (I would be happy if amazon started to accept any crypto, so that you know my stand).
164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 17, 2014, 02:30:04 PM
Hi,

I want to invest in one of these two. I'm having trouble figuring out who controls all the ripples. Also is it true that ripple labs copyrighted the term "ripple"?

To the moon G!


Ripple is still in beta, only small portion has been issued. Nxt is mostly held by its founder and his alts. You can find good blog post on Szalasz blog where its explained how they released only about 25% of currency to people. Ripple as term cannot be copyrighted, ripple effect etc, its generic term.

The only real downside to ripple is trading in the damn things, as far as I can see there is only one place to buy them from <----- correct me if I'm wrong though please.

I seriously looked at ripple 2 weeks ago and am now wishing I had got some, the issue I have now is when will the bubble burst ?

You can buy it at many places, bitstamp, kraken, justcoin, ripplechina, ripplejapan, ripplesingapur, snapswap, rippleisrael, therock trading etc, maybe this link helps you: http://www.ripplecharts.com/#/

But I dont know how good it is for speculations, I use ripple only to transfer fiat from exchange to exchange to do arbitrage on bitcoin. When bitinstant got closed most of us traders got cut out since we had to start paying extremely big fees for bank wires out from 1 exchange and into another. I hope ripple gets adopted by more exchanges because it solves that issue and is around 1000 times cheaper then bitinstant was.

Edit: not to mention speed, when i sent 10,000 USD from bitstamp anywhere I get it in 2 seconds while with bank wire I had to wait 3 days to arrive to me and then 3 days to arrive at exchange.
165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 17, 2014, 02:25:44 PM
Everyone can run Ripple server

What is the incentive?

Its mostly run by businesses, banks, gateways, and eco system developers because with rippled server you do a lot more then only with client.

Isnt that funny question to come from nxt supporter when next community was the one calling people to run wallets so network doesnt cripple? since noone wanted to run them as they get like 0,1% a year.
166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 17, 2014, 02:23:43 PM
All these nxt threads, I really cant make up my mind if they are a plus for nxt or not.

There are as many good for nxt as there are against, I guess its free advertising either way, and people will make there own mind, but for sure nxt has caught the imagination of both the lovers and the fighters..

I am not fighter, I just dont like to see something called innovative when its actually a shitclone. And I hope all crypto currencies go up, if people lose on alts they will not have money to buy bitcoin which currently sets the trends of crypto in world.
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 17, 2014, 02:20:52 PM
Ripple and BitShares networks are:
servers (called validators in Ripple and delegates in BitShares) + clients.

NXT is a peer-to-peer network, that means every node is both a server and a client.

Two different approaches.
Ripple and BitShares are distributed networks.
NXT is a truely decentralized p2p network.

Everyone can run Ripple server, same as everyone can run nxt wallet. So Ripple is truly decentralized p2p network. And you do not have to run ripple client to run server too. its your choice.
168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 17, 2014, 02:11:30 PM
Hi,

I want to invest in one of these two. I'm having trouble figuring out who controls all the ripples. Also is it true that ripple labs copyrighted the term "ripple"?

To the moon G!


Ripple is still in beta, only small portion has been issued. Nxt is mostly held by its founder and his alts. You can find good blog post on Szalasz blog where its explained how they released only about 25% of currency to people. Ripple as term cannot be copyrighted, ripple effect etc, its generic term.
169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 17, 2014, 02:09:02 PM
Check the numbers, then come back. In Ripple there are validators and all the others.

Every Rippled server is validator Smiley
170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 17, 2014, 01:58:53 PM
hey atoni,

Ripple is not decentralized, so all those functions don't have a meaning. All those functions already existed before Ripple - centralized exchanges (forex and stock exchanges), instant transactions (Paypal and many other digital payment systems), aliases (DNS system), everything else. Ripple just put them all together, but it's still centralized. If you need centralized, just use what was before Ripple that I listed above.

Lets see, Rippled servers are run on over 1000 different entities around the world. Nxt is run on 100 nodes (or maybe 150 by now). Which one is more centralized?
171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: July 17, 2014, 01:35:14 PM
Yep...poor Max.


On the NXT take-off.....the problem with most crypto's is that they are completely useless, except as an instrument for speculation.
There are only a handful of cryptos that actually have useful features.
NXT is working very hard on building up a complete financial eco-system, and a lot of that work is going to start paying off in the next few weeks as features and projects come to maturity and go live. AE was just the start, there's a hell of a lot to come yet.



I hope so EvilDave. I think its a great concept and hopefully they can take it pretty for based on the firepower they've accumulated.

Now everyone and their mother is starting a coin with a decentralized exchange but really NXT should be flattered because they were one of the first innovators of the idea.

I agree with your statement about the uselessness of cryptos. Most devs aren't even trying anymore to pretend their coin will eventually have some real-world application.

I did rake in some sweet doges in a few world cup matches, but other than that, yeah coins in general are more just like collectors mementos.

Actually asset issuance was first made by Ripple (its Ripples native function). But in Ripple is fully decentralized, if you issue an asset in Ripple you can choose in which currency to trade it (or make your own currency to trade it), in which order books to be and which fees to use for trading (or no fees at all). It was made almost 2 years ago.

Native functions of Ripple: Instant transactions, asset issuance, gateways, currency issuance etc etc...sounds familiar with Nxt development? ---> we want to create instant transactions, asset issuance, we want to create gateways, we want to create monetary system (fancy name for currency issuance)....if there was no data storage coins (from which next copied digital goods store) you can pretty much say that only thing they do is try to copy Ripple with fancy names included and extremely bad programming (in ripple asset trading is instant, gateways are decentralizzed and not run by devs even you can be your own gateway etc etc).

Now Ripple introduced Smart Contracts https://ripple.com/blog/smart-oracles-building-business-logic-with-smart-contracts/ wait till Nxt copies that and gives it some fancy name like "von Clevernous of Contractorous" lol

EDIT: oh and I forgot aliases...also copy from ripple Smiley
172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: July 15, 2014, 07:30:50 PM
Can you do a TL:DR version?

Sorry to inform you but my partner bailed out so the project is currently on hold Sad

Sorry for your loss but if you had a partner then why did you ask devphp to join you?

I hoped devphp would be my partner. But its ok, I am already over it. And maybe he changes his mind so we can together contribute for nexter innovation to finally start.
173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: July 15, 2014, 11:56:08 AM
Can you do a TL:DR version?

Sorry to inform you but my partner bailed out so the project is currently on hold Sad
174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: July 15, 2014, 11:42:44 AM
Are you in?

No, I don't do partnerships, especially with someone who has such shitty ideas Cheesy Don't bother writing such long articles next time Smiley

Shit, for moment I really felt important, I was like chief instigator of next innovation, or atoninext if you will Smiley

Anyway, despite your rejection I really like you and wish you all best with your investments! Good luck!
175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: July 15, 2014, 10:23:33 AM
Hey Devphp! I thought I had an epiphany and that I finally found something innovative in NXT that is not shitcloned from other coins, but later I figured its false alarm. None the less, it brought me to brilliant idea and I finally know what atoni888Buy asset will do, so I am asking you to be my partner!

In my dream I thought that NXT distribution was actually innovative! I will create all coins then spread them to my 5 alts and start selling on exchange (I guess we all know who is BCNext simply by looking who responded to his messages first). But then when I woke up I figured, shit, he copied that too from Ripple (he must have really been in love with ripple since he ripped off almost all his ideas from them). So that lead me to disappointment, although by your logic how everyone builds some of his own, you can argue that involvement of 5 alts was his innovation (as ripple chose transparency in distribution), but I will disregard it since anonymity is big thing in crypto so its not really innovative to use alts.

But.....that lead me to brilliant idea!

Atoni888Buy asset will be used to promote innovation in NXT! We will collect 100 BTC on Asset Exchange and make 100 BTC bounty (that is 62k USD, quite nice bounty) to person that makes something in NXT that is not shitcloned from other coins!

What do you say?

I will be something like BCNext in this, I gave my name and cloned the idea of bounty, but it will actually produce something really good for Nexter community! I am sure they will all chip in to remove that stigma of nxt copying every other shit coin, and to finally have at least I from Innovation!

To show how serious I am, I will send 1000 nexter to you so that I am not involved in any financing (since people wouldnt trust me), and you will create the asset. That will be my donation to the project (beside name and idea, well idea is copied from general bounty idea but who cares).

Are you in?
176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: July 15, 2014, 07:54:56 AM
You shouldn't trust any web site on the Internet. I thought you were around long enough to know it. Read the code and make your own conclusions. Oh, and did I mention you should stay away from decentralized exchanges?

I see, so www.nxt.org is not trustable site. interesting.
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: July 15, 2014, 07:51:42 AM
And I educated my self about Ripple, and I found out that everyone can run rippled server to reach consensus. There is already over 1000 people around the world running it so its pretty decentralized.
178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: July 15, 2014, 07:48:57 AM
Finally sane person who agrees that everything in NXT is copy. So where is that innovation then?

I guess only butthurts here are people that bought nxt at 9 cents to see their investment go south and now have to spread lies about "originality" and "innovation" around forum. Well, I wish them luck with their bags.

EDIT: I thought that www.nxt.org is official web page. Sorry if its just some nxt pumpers idea. its innovative like nxt to spread lies around, rofl

You can call me insane, but I didn't say what you claim I said about everything in NXT being a copy. You just made it up Smiley

Investments are risky and fluctuate, correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Bitcoin also lose about the same from its all time high? What do you invest in that always goes upwards only?

No, you thought wrong, there is no official website for NXT. There is only semi-official forum where developers post updates to the bitbucket repository of new NXT releases, everything else is decentralized in NXT, get used to it Smiley

Well, you said that he copied pos, decentralized exchange, colored coins, aliases, gateways.....so what is left? lol

I see, so nxt is just bunch of kids setting up web sites with lies on them?

Which web site should I trust about nxt then? Can you show me even 1 which doesnt have tons of lies on it?
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: July 15, 2014, 07:39:02 AM
I didnt say he copied algo but idea.

Ripple is fully decentralized currency.

I told you already I am not butthurt, I am laughing, am just annoyed to all the lies nxt people spread around.

They should start by changing their web page which still says nxt is fastest crypto and that there is no fees on asset exchange (but I guess lies are nxt business model).

So will you be investor in atoni888Buy asset? It will be honest 100%, same as everything on nxt lol

He might have copied the idea, so what. Peercoin's PoS implementation is faulty, he improved on it. Peercoin copied the idea from real world in the first place, it's all about going and improving the older inventions to make them more advanced. Are you surprised? That's how the world works, sorry to break it to you this way.

Ripple is not decentralized, it's distributed, feel free to look up the difference.

Go tell them to change the web page, which web page are you referring to, by the way? There is no official website for NXT, it's decentralized, you can set up your own website, that would be same as others, and you can put on the webpage whatever you want. There is only a semi-official forum at nxtforum.org

What do you offer with your asset? Tell me all terms, I'll think about it.

Finally sane person who agrees that everything in NXT is copy. So where is that innovation then?

I guess only butthurts here are people that bought nxt at 9 cents to see their investment go south and now have to spread lies about "originality" and "innovation" around forum. Well, I wish them luck with their bags.

EDIT: I thought that www.nxt.org is official web page. Sorry if its just some nxt pumpers idea. its innovative like nxt to spread lies around, rofl
180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: July 15, 2014, 07:27:26 AM
atoni, still butthurt? go see a doctor, haha Cheesy

NXT's PoS algo has nothing to do with Peercoin's.
Peercoin has centralized checkpoints, NXT does not.

You can't copy a decentralized exchange from Ripple, because Ripple is not decentralized. You can copy an exchange, but exchange is something that has been around for thousands of years, haha, it's like a wheel that was invented long ago.

You can't premine a 100% PoS coin, because it cannot be mined in the first place and all PoS coins must be generated all at the same time.

Aliases, gateways, yeah, he copied those, so what, both are natural developments to make life easier for users, expect a lot more things to be copied that add value to NXT.

Still butthurt?

I didnt say he copied algo but idea.

Ripple is fully decentralized currency.

Then premine is just semantics, he copied the idea of generating all coins at once from ripple.

I told you already I am not butthurt, I am laughing, am just annoyed to all the lies nxt people spread around.

They should start by changing their web page which still says nxt is fastest crypto and that there is no fees on asset exchange (but I guess lies are nxt business model).

So will you be investor in atoni888Buy asset? It will be honest 100%, same as everything on nxt lol

Will someone finally tell me 1 thing that came from nxt which is original? (except digital goods store, which will be bullsh.t as we all know it)
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