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161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the main points of gambling? on: May 09, 2024, 03:35:57 PM
Gambling thus requires three elements to be present: consideration
 (an amount wagered), risk (chance), and a prize.

I noticed that people now don't actually know their main points of them gambling, some people gamble to earn daily and some people just gamble cause they saw their friends won in gambling. That's how they develop their gambling lifestyle and from their they get addicted to it. I've over heard people complaining about them losses, for me I think they don't know the main points of gambling. What do you think about this people losses much? Does it mean they don't know the main points of gambling?

I think most people know them but they overlook them,they take them for granted and the only thing they think about a point of gambling is how to get rich in a very fast amount of time,that is the main motivator nowadays and by having this factor as the main motivation they risk it big and many become addicted.If they thought about risk being presenr they would not play in the first place,they think they will bypass risks.
162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: May 09, 2024, 02:06:07 PM
It’s sad that many Bayern fans are caught up in that episode with the premature whistle (by the way, wasn’t there an offside? Even though the linesman raised the flag too early, he did everything right) and even Tuchel and some of the Bayern management blame the referees. I think they should save face and not be embarrassed by such things. In terms of expected goals, the game result is 3.29 versus 0.41 in favor of Real. Do Bayern really believe they deserve to reach the final or at least extra time? And yes, I know that in the PSG-Dortmund pair it was the other way around, but Dortmund went on, but I didn’t see PSG players disgracing themselves with any unfounded claims.

I agree with you.Psg knew they played really bad and never tried to blame the referee or anyone else,in the case of Bayern the real one to blame is only Neuer with that gag he made yet no one from Bayern says a thing.They would have qualified if Neuer would not have made such an error and I am sure Bayern management would be talking differently now yet the reality is another one and is that Real vs Dortmubd will be the final.
163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: May 09, 2024, 01:06:15 PM
I have observed that the rich, I mean those who are financially comfortable, win more in gambling than the poor. By poor, I mean those who do not have enough to meet all their needs. I don't know the reason for this. Could it be that the rich understand financial management more? Or could it be that the rich are less desperate to win which make them make better gambling decision? I really want to know the reason for this pattern I have observed.

The rich gamble with more money and a little odd, like you said they understand financial management more, they Believe that a lesser odd and higher stake has more tendency of generating profit in gambling, it is not as if they don't lose funds in gambling, they try as much as possible not to engage in a high risk of making impossible selection.
Let's not forget that they rich sees gambling as a pure business that needs more carefulness to make profit thats why they chose to gamble differently from people, a poor man wants to win millions with a little stake and several selections which is impossible, another thing is that rich people dont gamble all the time, they target odds and games before they can gamble.

There is a simple reason why rich usually are more successful in gambling but not always,that is because they have much more balance than the poor,the longer they play the higher the chances of hitting something nice while the poor cannot afford to play that long,let me make an example here,one poor man has 100 dollar budget and play with 1 dollar bet and a rich one has 10.000 dollars budget and play with 10 dollar bet,of course the chances to be more successful are in the rich one as one big multiplier is not the same as with 1 dollar bet.
164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: May 09, 2024, 12:47:59 PM
Should be a really good game tonight, the neutral would want Bayern to win to set up an all German final. In that scenario I’d definitely be cheering on Dortmund, I wonder if Klopp would be in with the Dortmund fans:D

I’m not sure if fairy tales exist in football though, Real will do what Real do in this competition which is find a way to win.

But they do exist...  Grin  Study CL 2012 Final with Bayern Munich under Jupp Heynckes vs Chelsea under Di Matteo.  And just imho, I think it would be more of a fairy tale if BVB wins vs Real Madrid in final.  Looking forward to it.

What does everybody think of BVB's chances vs Real Madrid?  Could they pull of an upset?  And what do you guys think of the prop bet 'BVB to win the UCL' at 3.30?  They could win one match out of three right?

I think chances are there for any team,let me remind you of last season final where Inter almost equalized a super performing Manchester City who had just thrashed 4-0 in the semi final exactly Real Madrid.Based on this I think that Dortmund will put much more heart into the game compared to what Real players will,I am pretty sure of this.For me this final is better than Bayern vs Dortmund and will be enjoyable to watch.
165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: May 09, 2024, 07:47:00 AM

Real madrid to score 2+ goal in the last 5 minutes of the game and overturn the qualy. With 60 odds.   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
Damn buwa, that would have been the one to bring me back  Grin



I knew how this one is ending the moment Bayern missed that counter for 2:0. How the hell assistant ref flagged for offside in last moments of the game? Simply incredible, that is why you have the VAR, let it draw the lines after the play finishes.

I understand that was a mistake but also a mistake was to keep playing after the 10th additional minute as that was the maximum added time while the referee kept going 4 minutes more and that offside situation happened in the 14th minute of added time so not much to be complaining for from Bayern and it was totally Neuer fault with his gag that conceded the first goal.It is going to be a great final and Real in important games looks like they have a winner's DNA so well done to them.
It is not maximum time what the ref shows. It is actually minimal time. That means that having bigger extra time than shown is always possible and even mandatory in cases where you have substitutions, goals, var & similar after regular time was over.

I know the time it can be added but my point is that the time added over that shown was quite a lot and by judging from your replies I am assuming you to be a Barca fan  Grin.

Anyway what is important is that Real made half of the pool happy with that exact score many were predicting and now I wait calmly for the final,I know that max I will be 5th whatever the f *ck happens.
166  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: May 09, 2024, 06:32:36 AM

Real madrid to score 2+ goal in the last 5 minutes of the game and overturn the qualy. With 60 odds.   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
Damn buwa, that would have been the one to bring me back  Grin



I knew how this one is ending the moment Bayern missed that counter for 2:0. How the hell assistant ref flagged for offside in last moments of the game? Simply incredible, that is why you have the VAR, let it draw the lines after the play finishes.

I understand that was a mistake but also a mistake was to keep playing after the 10th additional minute as that was the maximum added time while the referee kept going 4 minutes more and that offside situation happened in the 14th minute of added time so not much to be complaining for from Bayern and it was totally Neuer fault with his gag that conceded the first goal.It is going to be a great final and Real in important games looks like they have a winner's DNA so well done to them.
167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: May 08, 2024, 09:14:58 PM
Should be a really good game tonight, the neutral would want Bayern to win to set up an all German final. In that scenario I’d definitely be cheering on Dortmund, I wonder if Klopp would be in with the Dortmund fans:D

I’m not sure if fairy tales exist in football though, Real will do what Real do in this competition which is find a way to win.

Holy fuck how many yellow caps,I think Rollbit is going to give out quite some few free bets now,as since not many people got any point from yesterday,many people got the correct score of 2-1 and all of them have the yellow cap indicating next to them.I don't know what Rollbit will do but I think they can give the free bet to all of us in this season finale  Grin.

For you man,if you want to get the 4th spot as a minimum you need a correct score in the final and me to do 0 points,don't get me wrong I would be happy with 5th place too as the prize is good enough.I am happy that for the first time I will get a prize in this pool after getting near it every season  Grin,so whatever that prize it I am happy.
168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 08, 2024, 09:04:25 PM
Absolutely not offside the 2nd goal of Bayern although I am happy that Real won as I had bet on them to win and over 2.5 and both teams to score but I am sorry for Bayern as their second goal was void without being correct,the referees clearly favored Real in this game and what is done is done.I think this is going to be one of the most interesting final games ever in recent Champions League history,Real Madrid vs Dortmund and I think Dortmund is somewhat better in shape than Bayern was so most likely we will see a good one,much different from Manchester City vs Inter last season,I am sure of this and can't wait that 1 June,date of the final.
169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: May 08, 2024, 07:24:49 PM
Jonathan Wheatley is in the spotlight after Adrian Newy could be next to leave Redbull.

For those who don't know him, he is the sporting director of Redbull.
He is the one who became famous in 2021 for the case of the safety car in the last race that gave the world championship to Max Verstappen.
He should become the team principal of Alpine or Sauber.

So what is happening,is Redbull in a complete break up as a team,are they going to go bankrupt or better they cannot go bankrupt as have a huge capital but they are going to become a mediocre team from 2026 if both heads of the team starts to leave one after another and honestly for me that would be great,it has been a really long time like we don't see battles between Ferrari,Mclaren and Williams in 1996-2000 and 2007-2008,some really really great memories from these Championships which look like didn't ever exist thanks to the seasons,the latest ones being so boring.That would be nice to have again a balanced F1 season like those times,emotions would be high again.
170  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Recommended slot game provider for newbie on: May 08, 2024, 06:59:47 PM
What do you think is the most recommended slot game provider for newbie? I’m struggling before on slot games when I’m still new because I can’t find any good win even I play a lot of spin. Mostly I play hacksawgames and no limit which I don’t have any idea that time that this provider offers majority of high volatility slot games.

I just get my groove on playing slot games when I try Play’n Go and experience frequent  medium win that boost my confidence to keep spinning. This frequent wins gives me confidence already to try again high volatility and manage to win.

I think Play’n Go is the best provider for newbie. I still doesn’t explore on other provider but anyone knew other providers that offer same payout frequency with Play’n Go?

I also think that Play n Go is newbie friendly,they have this common way of doing slots in a fashionable way and the hit frequency there is higher than most providers,I have noticed that even when it seems that you are losing without hitting anything,be ready for a super win that they call well over x100 your bet as it will happen soon.However for me the best provider for newbies as it lets you play with IDR currency and min bet of 200 IDR (0.015 dollars) is Pragmatic Play as you can buy the bonus there,something you absolutely can't do in Play n Go and that is a big turn off for most gamblers,including newbies,buying the bonus gives you the adrenaline to enjoy the game more.
171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: May 08, 2024, 01:18:02 PM
I'll say this, I'll put all 10 stakes on Dortmund to win 1st leg against PSG. Not expecting it to hit, might lose the lead, not too bothered with it either way. Wishing everyone chasing the best of luck!

Haven't gotten back in this thread in a while and I noticed this post.  Lmao.  Cheesy  

Did you put all 10 stakes in the second leg too?  Would be hilarious.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  Good to see BVB win it tho ngl.  

But yeah...  With PSG out and it's also looking likely that Bayern Munich will be out, Real Madrid gets it.  But I will be rooting for BVB.  Could be one of those crazy finishes of the season...  Weird that Chelsea winning the CL under RDM just popped up in my head.  Was so sure Bayern would win that night.

I did not see a 10 stakes for the second leg because as far as I know it is only 5 games,these last five to have only have match day 10 as the final one here in the pool.

Anyway what is important to notice in Pot B for next season is that the most rewarded persons are the ones who got for big surprise results and it clearly is living proof of that beautiful saying that goes,fortune favors the bold,that is what happened in Pot B.
172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Brasileirão 2024 - Brazilian Championship Serie A on: May 08, 2024, 12:34:54 PM
Well, he's keeping a good average of points, 1 per game  Grin... coming to the end of the championship he'll fall to the second division with this performance... I personally would love to see Corinthians playing in the second division again  Cheesy Cheesy...

Well, I still don't feel confident in betting, I'll wait until maybe the 10th round of matches to see better how the teams will behave... then maybe I'll start betting some money

It's not impossible to drop to Serie B with the current Corinthians team.
Changing coaches, players unhappy, fans unhappy too with the team...just problems at the moment

Brasileirao is like that, you'll never feel confident enough to bet hahaha, it's quite difficult even when the teams are more consistent
I still believe that Palmeiras and Flamengo will be the best teams in the championship

I doubt Corinthians which is one of the great teams of Brasileirao to go down in Serie B that easily.I know that when the players are unhappy they can do whatever they want to get the desired outcome for them not caring much for the team.If you remember some years ago in Germany the best team there Bayern kept losing games until the coach was fired as they were not happy with him.So anything can happen based on what players feel like doing.
173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: May 08, 2024, 09:36:34 AM
PSG has made most of the participants disappointed in the 2nd leg. There was only one participant who predicted for PSG to win on Superbru pool. In pot B, the highest number of bets were related to this match. Dortmund qualification for the final was unexpected. 'bullrun2024bro' is going to be the lucky person if Bayern somehow win the match today. He has staked 10 points on "Bayern and Dortmund make the final (7.5)". Anyway, now my chance is higher to stay in the top 5 of the leaderboard (in pot B) Smiley.

In the top 10 nothing changed and now only 6 points remain to be played.I saw again that most of the pool has gone for Real at 2-1 result near 50% of them including me.I don't think though that Bayern is going to make a surprise result tonight,I think Dortmund made enough of them this season and big congrats to them.If Real qualifies it would be a better game to watch the final compared to Bayern qualifying for the final.
174  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you are not to gamble. on: May 08, 2024, 08:48:45 AM
One thing that has happened to me lately is that every time I play and I am happy,I mean in a happy mood usually it ends up very badly as being happy keeps you playing and you are not really thinking cold headed and you only realize when you have lost it all so I would suggest anyone to refrain from gambling when you are in a happy mood and only gamble on normal conditions,yesterday I lost it all because I was happy while playing  Grin.
175  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which device do you prefer for gambling ? on: May 08, 2024, 06:29:49 AM
My choice is desktop. It is the most comfortable decision for gambling. But the problem is that i want to have an opportunity to bet everywhere and in such situation the only decision is mobile phone. Notebook is a good decision, but it is too big for some situations. For mobile phones the problem is how good is app. For some casinos mobile app is even better than web site, but it is rare enough.
So, the result choice is desktop when it is possible and mobile phone for other situations.

The same as me.I also prefer to be in front of a desktop when I am playing slot machines as that is the best experience for a player and makes losing somewhat possible to bear,those colorful slots are the most brutal ones as they kill you softly without realizing because of those great visuals.I only use my phone when I am about to place bets in sports as I like to read a bit relaxed on the sofa and take my time before deciding on which event to put my stake in.
176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 08, 2024, 06:04:32 AM
these matches that make me appreciate football. it doesn't matter how many millions you spend, how many famous players you have in your team, it doesn't matter anything.
the ball is a sphere and anything can happen. great borrusia dortmund, a really good show.
interesting also for gamblers. odd for win of the match was around @5.50!

Impressed by Dortmund performance yesterday,the greatest ex players and now coaches of the world say that football is a very simple game and it is some players that make it difficult.I agree with this statement as Dortmund played one of the simplest football yesterday who was enjoyable to watch.For Paris fault I blame directly the coach Enrique as he did not start one of the best Paris players,Barcola,not that it would have changed much but at least Paris would attack more.
177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: May 07, 2024, 02:18:21 PM
Lille wasted the best opportunity to finish in third place and in fact they wasted this opportunity when they suffered defeat against Monaco. Playing in front of their own crowd did not give Lille the opportunity to get full points and instead they had to concede four goals at home. Lyon experienced an increase in performance even though they previously played inconsistently in the middle of the season and they learned from their mistakes so they managed to restore their confidence.

Lyon even managed to dominate the match in the second half and Lille had difficulty keeping up with the match shown by Lyon. This defeat closed the opportunity for Lille to qualify for the Champions League because now they have a slightly greater distance from Brest who are third in the standings.
The competition between Brest and Lille will now be even fiercer after Lille lost yesterday game, currently the two are only 2 points apart so the remaining two games of the two teams will greatly determine who deserves to be ranked third later, I think for now Monaco only needs to win one more game to ensure one Champions League slot next season is theirs,  So with the additional 3 points it is no longer possible to be chased by Brest let alone Lille who are in third place at this time, the competition to get one remaining automatic qualifying ticket will certainly trigger fierce competition for both teams, especially now that both have balanced opponents in my opinion so that the potential to lose points in one match certainly still exists for both teams.

Brest, who have been able to perform quite consistently since the beginning of the season, must again work hard to secure their position in the current standings, previously Brest continued to be in second place in the standings but towards the end of the season their performance was decrease and made them currently have to fight hard to get a ticket to the Champions League zone next season.

I think that the most consistent team deserves this last spot of Champions League for next season and both Lille and Brest have not been consistent enough to think one of them deserves the spot more than the other.For me whatever the outcome from these last two games it will be the correct result and it will be the team who have deserved more to get that spot,because after all now the team who will make the least mistakes in these remaining games will get that spot in the end.
178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: May 07, 2024, 01:26:12 PM
I don't think Leverkusen has much pressure for this because if the second leg results in a draw, Leverkusen will also qualify for the final. Likewise with Atalanta which also has the potential to qualify for the final because in the Europa League this season Atalanta has also been able to bring Liverpool back to their place of origin, making Liverpool unable to stay in the Europa League for longer this season. And for the second leg with Marseille, of course Atalanta will try better to enter the final.
Atalanta has also had good results recently in their domestic league. Which makes me also quite confident that Atalanta will indeed win the second leg. Marseille might surprise us but the chances are quite small. Atalanta playing at home will definitely bring better confidence. Atalanta have continued to get wins in Serie A recently and the same goes for the Coppa Italia. And in the Europa League we have also seen how Atalanta managed to get to the semi-finals quite well. So reaching the Final seems very possible for Atalanta. Meanwhile, Roma looks like it will have difficulties in the second leg. Because a 2-0 aggregate will be very difficult to catch.

I agree with the bookies in here regarding who has the more potential to win this season Europa League which certainly is Leverkussen and they are not losing from quite some time,from quite a really long time in fact,and as such against Atalanta who has the higher chances to be in the final I don't think they will have problems.As for Liverpool elimination Atalanta was lucky to find them in a really bad day in Anfield,I doubt they will find a weak Leverkussen,quite the opposite.
179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 07, 2024, 12:15:44 PM
PSG will playing as a host today and we all know PSG was lost from Dortmund in the first leg with final score 1-0 and if PSG want to advances to the final match then PSG have to win with 2 goals margin or more and some people predict PSG can able to do that because they are very strong in all competitions at their home but i don't think it will be so easy because Dortmund is the team who hard to beated and as a dark horses team Dortmund potentially can makes PSG gets in trouble so this match will be so tight

We all know Dortmund current position at Bundesliga is 5th place and there is possibility they will be failed to playing in this competition again next season unless Dortmund can able to gets the trophy so obviously they have to hard struggling for this match and not lost but for PSG they are dreaming Champion League trophy and they have good chances to realized it this season however regarding the outcomes of this match the bookmakers give low odds for PSG win @1.47 and seems they are very confident PSG can able to overcomes Dortmund today and looking forward to see the match result whether PSG can able to win or not
regardless of the home advantage that PSG has while going into today's encounter against Dortmund, judging from the first leg encounter and the fact that Dortmund has a one goal advantage against PSG, it's very clear that they have a very high chance of winning today's game.

I don't want to underestimate the strength of PSG and the fact that mbape, dembele and hakini are forces to be contended with and  and that they would normally want to bring in the fight but from the look of things, they don't seem to match uo the kind of energy with which Dortmund plays with. It would be an interesting game to watch. PSG would have all the needed support they need to enable them play effectively which to some extent might become a major distraction but all things being equal, it's a 50/50 situation and so it's clear anyone can win in this all important encounter.

The first match ended with Dortmund winning 1-0 and now the Germans need to defend their advantage. For some reason, many people are confident that PSG will defeat Borussia on their field and that the Parisians will score 2-3 goals easily. I doubt it. PSG played in Dortmund frankly weak and hope that they will transform in Paris is not worth it. PSG are favourites for the match, but I'm sure Borussia will be able to hold on to their lead, or bring the game to a penalty shootout. If there will be a penalty shootout, I bet on Borussia's victory.

I don't think it will be easy for Dortmund to hold onto their advantage of the first leg,I think that Paris played that weak because they took things easy and thought it was going to be easy.I don't think tonight Psg will play with the same mentality,I am sure their coach has prepared them pretty well mentally and psychologically and the results in field most likely will be different.I hope Dortmund put up a great show again but I don't think they will come victorious from this encounter.
180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling? on: May 07, 2024, 08:56:38 AM
Currently even in countries where gambling is regulated through strict licensing schemes and laws, there's very little enforcement of regulation. Governments are just happy to consider the deal done with a DNS level blocklist, no infractions are given to those playing at non-licensed casinos online and none to those operating them too.

This is a twofold problem in some cases. For one, the informed gambler can easily avoid a DNS level block and play at his favorite casino without any consequences. The majority of gamblers will not even know how to overcome a DNS level block so they opt to play at licensed casinos. Arguably, bringing more enforcement against online casinos that don't pursue licenses would be very hard as they operate legally abroad, plus the online block gives them credence to operate with users not affected by blocks. Surely some users know how to overcome blocks but it's a very small minority.

But I think there's a type of regulation that governments could pursue which if implemented would affect everyone's gambling.
The way casinos run slot games these days is through licensing. The company making the games runs them in their own servers, and then the casino embeds a space in their online website. Many of the slots providers run somewhere out of Europe like for example Evolution Gaming, Fantasma Games and more being even listed companies in Sweden.

Imagine if regulators went after these companies and forced them to do everything in their power to stop serving any gambler accessing their licensed games through unlicensed casinos in their country of residence. It would make gambling very hard as casinos would then have a much more limited scope of games to run. Live blackjack and slots by evolution, its subsidiaries as well as any company domiciled in the same place, which are the most popular slots and live games providers, would be out of reach in most crypto casinos to most people. And given than Evolution and other popular providers are fully operating in EU, it would be very easy to target them with enforcement, just by changing a law.

Given the prevalence of online gambling and crypto casinos I think this might be a realistic development that could be coming. It makes me wonder what the future of gambling online with crypto will be then. Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games? And perhaps even bring workers abroad to run them without legal consequence? What do you think?

I don't think there is a reason why anyone would want to play in non reputable casinos in the first place,all reputable ones are licensed and there is no need to be blocking them through the DNS which anyone can change by putting the Google one of 4 eights or OpenDns servers which most ISP-s and government do not block.If someone wants to still play at those unlicensed or not regulated casinos he can do so by using a VPN or changing the DNS,even the uninformed gambler will try to find a way to reach that blocked casino and will soon with a simple google search how to access it again.
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