Thanks much ShireSilver for the trade, looking forward to receiving the Silver cards.  Interesting approach you've come up with to develop a valued exchange!

Still no takers on my offer?

My OP offer is a good one for both of us, and although I've decided to buy some from others here, will always try to have enough BitCoins available to conduct this trade for at least 1 or 2 ounces.  Anyone wanting to bypass fiat, and go straight for a Metal to Coins trade, please let me know.

Thanks for the link and auction BarbarousRelic, this was just too good a deal to pass up.  Seems I was the only bidder last night, looking forward to receiving my 1st 1/2 dollar coin from you, Monday shipment is fine.  

BitMit is an interesting auction house, it appeals to my sense of simplicity in use, may post some of my wares there in the near future too...

@ShireSilver - Just about ordered a couple of your 5gram cards last night, find the idea intriguing.  So do you usually have a couple around for fast shipping?  Would like to inspect the product, before committing to a larger order or getting setup as a merchant.

My understanding from your post is that a box of 40 cards could take a couple of weeks to get manufactured and then shipped, sounds reasonable, but wouldn't want that to become a month or two.


Understand where your coming from, my perspective is slightly different.  For one thing, in coin & pawn shops around the world, tens of thousands of trades are taken by dealers at or below spot in exchange for local fiat everyday, mostly from folks in desperate need of cash.  So from a dealer perspective, buy at spot, sell at a premium, happens all the time.  

As a customer, sure it's hard to buy at spot and take physical possession, near impossible even for those trading in 1Koz block lots there are costs & fees which could be considered a premium.

Agree your bitcoin price is inline with others, considering a trade with you, your reputation appears sound, however please let me contact you FIRST.  I've several problems, not very many BitCoins is one, & your pricing on the shipping costs, awfully high on such a small order of only a few ounces or less.  Can understand your need for it, but only would do a trade for a larger amount, because of it.

Lastly, by using the Kitco/MtGox ratio prices, for example today that is 5.6164BTC / 1oz, we've eliminated the fiat from the math, if Silver goes to $10 and BitCoin to $2 the ratio is still 5/1.  As BitCoins are also up over these last couple days, the ratio hasn't changed all that much.

As I'm throwing in an additional 0.2BTC allowance (ABOVE SPOT) today's offer is for 5.8164BTC's in trade for 1oz Silver shipped to me.  And this offer is allot better for any seller walking into a pawn shop, getting below or at spot for some Silver, then exchanging that fiat for various forms of digital fiat, to eventually convert it into BitCoins, the more middlemen getting a cut, the more you lose...

GR
RodGround at gmail dot com

Not an expert here, just speculating...

That is really bizarre.  Behavior like this speaks allot about the nature of the one behind it's premeditation.  Juvenile for one, and why those three words?  Designed to instill fear in the minds of those that find the message.  Allot went into them being embedded in the transaction.  More than likely a troll shunned by the community here.  If this heist had been done by some group within TPTB in-order to derail BitCoin progress, I doubt they would go to all this trouble, no this is the mind of a Jack The Ripper type personality, and my guess a solo individual.  

Thanks Shire, pretty much only interested in investment grade.

Pure .999 Silver coins or bars preferred, some of the older circulated 90% stuff interests me if the price is right, and I mean by weight not denomination & count, because I've already got some older coins by count and you can always figure they've been worn down by 5-20% from use.  Also will take old copper pennies, silver coins and be fair with a bitcoin price on a case by case basis...

NorthWest Territorial Mint has some very nice 5 gram bars, I definitely would pay a premium over spot in BitCoin's to anyone interested in a trade to get my hands on some of these...
https://store.nwtmint.com/product_details/2986/Northwest_Territorial_Mint_Silver_Bar_5_Gram/

Same with the 10 gram, 1/4 & 1/2 oz pieces (as long as it's stamped with purity & weight), will pay comparable above spot price for any of those..

GR

More BitCoins for your Silver today, than yesterday...

Close a trade,

PM or email...

GR

Thanks guys, will look at your offers and consider some purchases down the road, right now I want to trade some BitCoins with anyone that has some uncirculated 5gram-1oz .999 Silver rounds or bars to get started in the world of BitCoins...

GR

A project after my own heart, will be checking in from time to time, see if I can make sense of some of the things your talking about. 

Wish I had more time this summer, this would be a fun one for me too...if by chance I get to the point of being helpful, will let you know MatthewLM!

Posting here so those of you new to BitCoins can respond first, even if your not yet a full member...

Live in a rural part of America, and it's 150 miles round trip to the coin shop, on top of paying a premium for that metal, the travel expense adds up too.  This offer would be most effective to those of you living in the USofA as otherwise shipping quickly becomes prohibitively expensive.  Little more than the cost of a couple stamps in most cases will do.  However if you want, you can spend the money on insurance and delivery confirmation, your choice.

Offering any of you interested, a chance to get some BitCoin's in your wallet quickly, and for me to get some Silver delivered directly to my USPS address.  UPS &/or Fedx are possible, however in my opinion will be too expensive, for this small of a transaction...

Have right now enough BitCoin's to buy 2oz Silver Rounds/Bars, .999 purity & uncirculated preferred.  

Will consider old 90% dimes, quarters, half/whole dollars on a case by case basis, not interested in spending allot of time here, so no speculative numismatic value offers please.

What I'm offering in exchange is Bitcoin, amount will be finalized in PM's between us here or email, so we both know up front what the amount will be & there is no waiting and wondering what that value might be upon delivery.  Once I pickup the metal, you will get your payment to whatever address you give me.

Willing to pay what feels like a fair price, in an amount equivalent to the following:

MtGox Weighted Average exchange price: Currently: $5.04680USD
https://mtgox.com/

The Spot Price of Silver:  Currently: $27.01USD
http://www.kitcosilver.com/charts.html

Plus an additional amount to help you out w/postage of 0.2BTC per oz of Silver traded.

Example: You have 1oz to send, that would be 27.01/5.0468 = 5.351906 plus 0.2 = 5.551906 BitCoins

This will help both of us out, as we develop a web-of-trust on BitCoinTalk.org & get you started in the world of BitCoins!

Thanks much for the opportunity to trade!
You can Email me directly: RodGround at gmail dot com

GR

@Wnd - Everything looks to be in order, appreciate doing business with you and certainly would again!

Thanks much,
GR

The guys article really irritated me and that is the 2nd strike in 3 days I've heard about how worthless Forbes is as an information source.  Really makes one wonder about who was really behind the Bitcoinia hack/theft.  About as bad as the news out today over how Minnesota troopers are supplying weed to protesters at the Occupy movement, in exchange for favors...  In both cases, making themselves look really stupid.

@Wnd - Interested in having you purchase something for me, sent you an email...

@Toffoo - Yes seeing some inappropriate switching to foreground behavior too.  Running 3 different Windows 0.6.xx versions here, no change in that which I've noticed.  Was trying to figure out how to document that just yesterday, somewhat hard to describe.

Just wanted to add...

Gavin's recommended upgrade path went smoothly, no problems to report there, although while reviewing which files had changed, was surprised to find that in windows explorer, under the Program Files/bitcoin subdirectory as well as the bitcoin/src (plus subs) & bitcoin/daemon folders, all the files date/time stamps remain the same, stuck on 1/29/2011.  Both the date modified and the date created fields, odd that I can't look at those quickly and be able to tell which files have been modified recently.  Mostly it would be nice to at least see the bitcoin-qt.exe file has a newer time stamp on it, before running....

My initial install was back one April 2nd 2012, can clearly see that as the folders dates modified & created are working fine, it's just the files themselves which aren't changing....

GR

Thanks much Gavin and team for the new release, again am wondering if I can just shutdown my v0.6.0.7 beta release under windows, install the new exe and bring the client back online without any problems?

As I'm learning more and more about BitCoins, this idea popped into my head.  As original ideas are few, did a search first and sure enough this thread popped up with the same description, so instead of starting a new one, and addressing the OP's concept directly, perhaps another way of looking at this problem needs to be developed & as I've not worked out any of the details, the intent here is to spur continued discussion & approach the problem of voting from different angles...

One where like BitCoin's is to money, and NameCoin's is to DNS services, why not have a VoteCoin type implementation where anyone could contribute votes on any issue they saw fit.  Remove the concept of money from voting completely.  So much today is about buying votes, and the process is rotten to the core.  Obviously corruption in that regard has reached the highest levels in society today.  IMO measures &/or officials should fail to pass, unless those people effected at least care enough to even bother to vote.

The whole idea of "mining for votes", might take on a whole new meaning &/or be redefined technically from the way BitCoin's works, or ride piggy back similar to how NameCoins derive new coins.  Have no idea at the moment, how to work out that detail, maybe scrap that part of the code entirely, and assign one coin to each voter for every issue needing to be voted on, perhaps mining becomes a way for those individuals that care about this or that issue to bring any given vote topic into existence.  Just throwing out ideas...

Another one is...only those issues, from within the entity being effected should get vote coin, such as a city, county, country etc. so perhaps many different levels of p2p blockchains could co-exist for those sub-entities, with a natural tendency for having the global votecoin chain exist only for those issues which effect humanity as a whole on the planet, and when one comes up to that level, every soul gets an equal assigned value to vote ya-nay.

The point is, it seems to me like the most honest and tractable voting system ever developed by humans could come out of thinking about solving once and for all this problem of free, fair & open elections...

Got to run, or will be late for work, still have a foot in 2 worlds...

GR

Been wanting to visit http://blockchain.info/ for the last 2 days, not getting a response at all from a server, also http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ is reporting it as down, what's up with that?

@notme -
@AdamstgBit - Thanks for the encouragement, your 1st questions require a long answer, will try to start a thread and link that stuff up...

As to your last question, yes I've got an account setup on CampBX, & need to ship out a money order to them asap, smell a big buying opportunity coming up here & don't want to miss the dip(s)...

@Otoh - So spent sometime with Block Explorer (BE), best I can figure, is that when I send out coin to someones address, a counterparty address is generated for me on that transaction, this is the address I mentioned in the ETA (Edit to ADD) text of my previous post. 

Soooo... what you were asking all of us Newbie's for orignally, after contributing to ILC's address, was view BlockExplorer on it, provide you with that address on us, so you can then match our avatar to that address and know only one contributor to one forum member id...

Does that sound about right?

Not sure if I'm getting a 'A' or 'F' on this test, perhaps 'E' for effort, as yet no one else seems to have stepped up to the plate & offered to join the party.  This really is a wonderful offer you've given us to make a little coin & have an opportunity to learn allot! 

Come on in Newbies, we need 9 more!

Thanks Otoh for putting this on!

GR

Got it!  Thank you so much.

What fun!

Ok thought I would join in here too, and thanks for your most generous offer.  

Didn't see or realize until after sending 23mBTC's to ILC, that the 1st two transactions were before your offer, in any case passed the coin on, as requested, should show up in the BE, hmm so far it hasn't, my wallet is showing 1 of 6 confirms, guess I'm still somewhat confused by BE, making this a good way to learn.  Patience....there we go, showing up for me now...

Anyways, again here is my address.
1AhWgEPJx2rCoUcgeLGQhQbnA7wjiuTfNs

GR

ETA: Otoh, I'm still confused by the BE, what I see is an amount, date that are correct and so it must be from me, but the To/From column lists an address that is a mystery to me,  I've never understood that column nor an idea if it's an address that belongs to me or not, how can I tell?  Nothing in my bitcoin-qt wallet lists that address.  It certainly is not the one I posted above, nor the one I sent to, if you look at ILC's address, it's there now listed as:  1EkB23rhZpPH4xcfDgKMBgtPhFavTvLrmA
Got to go hike the dogs, will try to figure this out later tonight, always more to learn!  

Guess it couldn't hurt to throw an address into the hat...

1AhWgEPJx2rCoUcgeLGQhQbnA7wjiuTfNs

Much appreciated seeing such generosity being offered here...

No biggy, a number of us on a closed forum have been helping each other get started with BitCoins, that's all.  Sending/Receiving (sd/rx) 50-200mBTC amounts (milli=1/1000BTC), to help test other member wallets, as they get it setup for the 1st time.  Plus there is a fellow producing mp3's, I like listening to his thoughts & as he started accepting BTC's, so I send him 100mBTC's now and then.  You can stretch a couple BTC's along way, if your conservative & by going to dailybitcoins once/day it covers the transaction cost.  Our admin donated 40BTCs to the 1st 20 people that could get setup to start using BTC's, that pool went fast, and so a number of us are now giving back, so others can use that seed money over again, the idea is to get more new members started in using BitCoins, that type of thing.  I'm kinda hoping to help get 100 new BTC users within this 1st 60 days of starting the project, would like for it to have been 500, but as U know acceptance takes time.  If we could get a hundred on board, I'm thinking it might just avalanche quickly up to 800 or more. 

Sorry about the thread drift OP, please continue, I honestly think it's fun to watch you very early adopter folks blowing Bookies around on a price swing bet.   

Hope that answers your question adamstgBit,  just trying to do my part & grow the community.