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161  Economy / Lending / Re: Is there enough interest in real world lending for 15%- 20% ? on: September 07, 2012, 06:54:13 PM
cool story bro
NO

Considering your ironic statement and your avatar text, you probably think this is a scam.
This is rather sad because it implies that even suggesting to handle out all possible proof and gurantees you think there is no interest in this kind of lending. I guess there is no interest in lending at all then or can you tell me what exactly is wrong with this model?
Or do you think there is no and should not be a BC economy?
162  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: i want to sell 15 -25-100 bitc , . I TAKE NETELLER EU. * BACK IN BIZZ .. on: September 07, 2012, 06:43:41 PM
trade with , bixcoin 


thxx..

H

confirmed! traded 2x 100btc
163  Economy / Lending / Is there enough interest in real world lending for 15%- 20% ? on: September 07, 2012, 06:38:20 PM
Hi,

I am a German guy living in the south of Brazil for 8 years now, my main business is in real estate. I have recently bought a piece of land, divided it in lots, built a house and sold the house and some lots. Also I have build another house which is for sale now.
I am currently looking for a bigger stretch of land for reinvesting. The highest returns on the market would be by building a condo, but I do not have the funds to do so. I guess it also would be to big to start with a hughe project like this for Bitcoin funding.
So I am thinking about a test project on GLBSE. From time to time I get offers of small lots below market value. Right now, I have an offer of a small lot in the city of Florianopolis for about 40.000USD. I evaluated it with at least 60.000USD. What I would like to do is to seek investors on GLBSE until a certain date. On the day, I make up for the missing investment and buy the land. I then pull the marketing strings and hopefully sell it within a year for 60.000USD. Considering transaction fees, burocracy, agent fee, marketing costs and my (small) cut, the return will be around 20%. I think it wouldn't even take a year to sell it, but we could combine a maximum timerange after which the price will be set down to 55.000USD or even a guarantee that I will buy it after, lets say 18 months, if we cant sell it otherwise (of course that guarantee would lower the return).

I can provide all prove of identity that GLBSE asks for, but I actually think thats not enough for serious investors.
So on top of that, I can personally provide my notarized ID, documents of the real estate I own (in case I give a guaranty), proof of adress and other proofs suggested in the "how to request a loan" thread. To avoid identity theft, we would have to involve a third party (notary?) for checking sensible documents.
 I can not provide OTC Rating (which IMO is not worth a thing -> pirate) and not proof many transactions. The only thing I can think about to proove my online reputation is my ebay account, which is about 12 years old and  has no negative feedback.
Anyway, since we are talking about real world investment, I think its more important that I have all the real world documents and I can provide those in any way.

So why don't I just start but tell you all this instead?
To do that kind of business, I would create an official company with all the brazilian burocracy involved. That is necessary and also another security for investors. I would also have to check with an experienced lawyer if I could get any problems with the officials because of money laundering laws. This means huge financial and timely effort, which is not even worth it for a small project like this, but I would do it looking forward to bigger projects after the test goes well.

So if any of you would be interested in this kind of investment, please tell me your thoughts about that.
I would also like to know if potential investors would be interested in a 100% guarantee resulting in lower returns (I stand in with my own property to guarantee the minimum return) or prefer a low to mid risk in exchange for highest returns (or anything in between).


Thanks in advance for helping me. I hope this kind of business can get the BC economy to some more serious level.
164  Other / Beginners & Help / List of GLBSE Business on: September 05, 2012, 03:45:21 PM
Does anybody know if there is a complete list of GLBSE Securities with a short explanation what they are doing? I would only be interested in real economy businesses, no mining or ponzi-like "lending".
I am actually thinking in building a security myself, handling with real estate, which is my main business. The problem I see is that there is so many high % fraud, semi-fraud or at least high-risk operators, that people might not even consider to invest in a 15-20%/year low risk operation.
Any hints or experiences?

Thanks!
165  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: August 28, 2012, 03:53:08 PM
Just an update, to get up my postcount and keep you informed of my interests:

I am now also interested in BC investment, just hope not to fall for a ponzi. I am looking closely at MMM and gigagaming. If anybody has a clear warning for one of those, please pm me.
166  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: August 27, 2012, 08:17:07 PM
Hi,

I am owning bitcoins since May 2011, have done some daytrading back then before the crash. I am generally more a forum reader than a writer, but it happend sometimes that I wanted to answer on a post (last was a bond offer where I had a question about) and had to send a pm since I was still a newbie. I'd appreciate if you whitelist me to avoid that in the future.

Thanks!

Bix
167  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How do I make a bitcoin-otc profile? on: June 18, 2012, 10:40:18 AM
ME CONFUSED! :l

open your mind and learn this

the trust records (given/received ratings) are viewable over http / web
each user has a pgp keypair & has uploaded his public key to a key server so that other may find it easily
every web of trust user is registered also with the service and this is done in IRC (see first reply for a command that will show you a help message what to do on irc), there is a nice guide linked from bitcoin-otc, i think they have a wiki for this with a step by step guide.

so my buggy guide is:
- read the available guides
http://dylblog.com/2011/06/05/how-to-join-in-with-bitcoin-otc-the-easy-way-osx/ is my favourite, steps should be the same also for non mac os users; this guide is from the ofic source http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System
- follow the guide (generate yourself a pgp keypair, register with irc/freenode, upload keys)
- get/give ratings

requires pgp/gpg & irc skills


the dylblog site seems to be offline. Since I know nothing about IRC and that, it would be really helpful if there is another guide or if somebody has a copy of the dylblog-guide.
168  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: June 18, 2012, 10:17:10 AM
Hi, bixcoin here!

I pretty much only want to trade bitcoins via Neteller for now and couldnt find out how that #bitcoin-otc works. Maybe anybody can contact me and explain.
Or somehow it seems I have to do 5 posts.
A pitty also that the hours of reading I've done before don't count....
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