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161  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Law of One: A New Age Theory of the Universe on: January 27, 2013, 10:37:23 PM
It's worse than boilerplate code in programming -- such a design by some higher being seems unlikely.

Unless mortality is never intended.

Why would you think there is intention in play?
I have seen not the slightest bit of intention comming from the universe.
Intention is a human notion.

Man is from the universe, is he not?

Anyways, I was just referring to the context of his quote. Not the actual possibility of anything here. My point: Assuming there was a creator, a metaphysical mind wouldn't be out of the question.
162  Economy / Speculation / An interesting quote from Reuters in 2012... on: January 27, 2013, 10:36:18 PM
"He is not alone. Workers at Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs in London and New York have been visiting online Bitcoin exchanges as often as 30 times a day, according to documents seen by Reuters. Neither bank wanted to comment.

Employees at almost all the major international banks and numerous trading and investment firms have shown interest."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/01/traders-bitcoin-idUSL6E8ET5K620120401
163  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Law of One: A New Age Theory of the Universe on: January 27, 2013, 09:20:09 PM
It's worse than boilerplate code in programming -- such a design by some higher being seems unlikely.

Unless mortality is never intended.
164  Economy / Economics / Re: Money did *not* evolve from barter on: January 27, 2013, 08:43:25 PM
It depends if you consider objects of universal value money or not.
165  Other / Off-topic / Re: What does the internet think about Bitcoin? on: January 27, 2013, 06:54:53 PM

One is a term used mostly by lawmakers. The other is used generally by all.
166  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Law of One: A New Age Theory of the Universe on: January 27, 2013, 06:51:47 PM

There is no 'single' process.
The brain has many processes.
It is a fantasy that there must be a single point where consciousness is created.
Consciousness is the result of the interactions of billions of neurons.

True.

Any outside information passes through many (and often parallel) neural paths to form your experience.
You can disable parts of the brain and see that certain forms of processing information are disabled.
So, for instance, the interaction with memory can be blocked at several levels of operation.
But you can also selectively disable consciousness.

True.

Everything you say is absolutely true. However, these new agers argue that our consciousness is simply energy flowing into our brain which supposedly acts like a radio tuner. They argue that a damaged brain is simply a damaged receiver and that full transmission isn't coming through. However, again, no real evidence.  
167  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Law of One: A New Age Theory of the Universe on: January 27, 2013, 05:41:21 PM
It also goes well with the idea of primacy of consciousness, where body in general and the brain in particular are viewed as receivers of consciousness as opposed to a common belief of them being the generators of it.


Unfortunately for this idea we have understood for quite some time now (at least a century or so) that the brain IS the generator of consciousness and can be manipulated as such.

Citation needed. Do we know the exact processes that make conciousness? Also, string theory.
168  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sentiment Poll 1/27/2013 on: January 27, 2013, 01:52:29 AM
I apologize for the very minor adjustment to the closing price. The API tends to act quite wonky. I did it very early on (less than 5 votes) so it shouldn't be an issue.
169  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just bought my ticket for Bitcoin 2013 in San Jose! on: January 27, 2013, 01:17:56 AM
I would also like to hear Mike Hearn Present again.  Always interesting.

Is piuk attending?
I don't know if the organizers of this conference take kindly to Blockchain.info.

why?

It's not mentioned on the bitcoin.org clients page for one, even though it's a independent client (just in javascript) and has a stand-alone, verifiable extension. Two, I've read a lot of posts implying they just don't like it being a popular way to use bitcoin.
170  Economy / Speculation / Sentiment Poll 1/27/2013 on: January 27, 2013, 12:42:33 AM
Yesterday (UTC) closed at $17.59 BTC/USD. Will the 27th close higher or lower?

This is based on UTC/GMT time. The closing price is the last price of the trading day.

Yesterday's poll: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138897.0

Edit: Closed at $17.81.
171  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just bought my ticket for Bitcoin 2013 in San Jose! on: January 26, 2013, 10:55:14 PM
I would also like to hear Mike Hearn Present again.  Always interesting.

Is piuk attending?
I don't know if the organizers of this conference take kindly to Blockchain.info.
172  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just bought my ticket for Bitcoin 2013 in San Jose! on: January 26, 2013, 06:49:31 PM
My sincerest apologies for my crude comments in this thread. I hope the conference is very productive.
173  Other / Politics & Society / The Law of One: A New Age Theory of the Universe on: January 26, 2013, 06:26:38 PM
A team of university students and staff attempted to contact extraterrestrial intelligence through group meditation. Purportedly, it ends with a hivemind-intelligence named Ra channeling through the voice of one of them. The countless recordings of the intelligence were bounded in a series of books called "The Law of One". Here's a synopsis from http://www.lawofone.info/. I want to hear what you guys think. Tongue It's basically another theory of everything but from a metaphysical standpoint. It makes no premise of good or bad in the natural order but simply phenomenon called "distortions".

Of course, there is no way to verify the source of this through our current science.

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The Law of One

The One Infinite Creator

The Law of One states that there is only one, and that one is the Infinite Creator (4.20), which Ra also calls “Infinite Intelligence” and “Intelligent Infinity.” It is impossible to describe the “one undifferentiated intelligent infinity, unpolarized, full and whole,” but It can be activated or potentiated (28.1). Each portion of the creation contains, paradoxically, the whole (13.13).

Illusion

Since all is one, all manifestation, or appearance of many-ness, is an illusion (1.6, 106.23). According to Ra, it is an illusion carefully engineered in order to give the Creator the opportunity to know Itself (27.17).

Distortion

In Ra’s terms, “distortion” is anything that moves away from undistorted unity. This can be either what we would consider “good” (distortion toward love) or “bad” (distortion towards ill health). There are three fundamental distortions of Infinite Intelligence:

The First Distortion

The first distortion is free will, or finity, or the limit of the viewpoint (13.12, 15.21, 99.5). The created universe that we experience is the Creator’s exploration of Itself through the first distortion, which Ra also calls the Law of Confusion (27.10).

The Second Distortion

The second distortion is Love, or the Logos, or the Creative Principle (15.21). It is “the focus, the choice of attack, the type of energy of an extremely, shall we say, high order which causes intelligent energy to be formed from the potential of intelligent infinity in just such and such a way.” (27.12) A Logos can create a single star system or it can create a galaxy with billions of star systems (28.7). Each galaxy has its own system of natural laws (13.13) and, I believe, its own “cosmic mind” (91.2). Ra says that some of its members have wandered to the creations of other Logoi, and that “[t]he experience has been one which staggers the intellectual and intuitive capacities.” (90.17) In the case of galactic systems, the first physical manifestation of a Logos is a cluster of central systems (82.Cool.

The Third Distortion

The third distortion is light (15.21). It is the first manifestation visible to the eye (78.9). Light is intelligent, full of energy, and the building block of what we call matter (13.9). Light’s characteristics include “the infinite whole paradoxically described by the straight line.” Ra says that “[t]his paradox is responsible for the shape of the various physical illusion entities you call solar systems, galaxies, and planets, all revolving and tending towards the lenticular.” (13.9). Light energy has an upward spiraling characteristic which impels evolution. (13.17).

Sub-Logoi

Our galaxy was created by a single Logos (28.9) and our sun is a sub-Logos of that Logos (29.1) A sub-Logos individualizes or differentiates the natural laws set up by its Logos (13.13, 29.2). It also refines the cosmic mind into its specific archetypical mind, informed by the experience of earlier sub-Logoi (81.33, 91.3).

Sub-Sub-Logoi

Humans are an example of sub-sub-Logoi (29.7).

Densities

The creation has seven levels, or densities; the eighth density forming the first density of the next octave of experience, just as the eighth note of a musical scale begins a new octave (16.51, 28.15). Between seventh and eight densities the creation re-merges in a period of timeless, formless unity with the Creator (28.16). It is Ra’s understanding that “the ways of the octave are without time; that is, there are seven densities in each creation infinitely.” They point out, though, that the limits of their knowledge are narrow (78.15).

First density is the density of awareness, in which the planet moves out of the timeless state into physical manifestation. Its elements are earth, air, water, and fire (13.16). On earth, after matter had coalesced and space/time had begun to “unroll its scroll of livingness” (29.11), first density took about two billion years (76.13)

Second density is the density of growth, in which what we call biological life emerges and evolves into greater and greater complexity (9.13). Second density on earth took about 4.6 billion years (76.13).
Third density is the density of self-awareness and the first density of consciousness of the spirit (13.21). It is the “axis upon which the creation turns” because in it entities choose the way (either service to others or service to self) in which they will further their evolution toward the Creator (76.16). Third density is much shorter than the other densities, taking only 75,000 years (6.15).

Fourth density is the density of love or understanding. Those who have successfully chosen a path come together with others of like mind in what Ra calls a “social memory complex” in order to pursue that path, either loving self or loving others (20.36, 48.6). Fourth density lasts approximately 30 million years; fourth-density lifespans are approximately 90 thousand years (43.13, 43.11).

Fifth density is the density of light or wisdom (25.11). Lessons are often learned individually rather than as a social memory complex (43.14). Fifth-density entities are beautiful, by our standards, because they can consciously shape their physical forms (62.21, 90.5)

Sixth density is the density of unity, in which love and wisdom are blended together (33.20). The two paths reunite as those on the service-to-self path, realizing that they cannot successfully master the lessons of unity without opening their hearts to others, switch their polarity to positive (78.25). Ra is sixth-density; their sixth-density cycle is 75 million years (14.19, 14.21).

Seventh density is the gateway density, in which we once again become one with all (16.22). It is “a density of completion and the turning towards timelessness or foreverness.” (41.16)

Eighth density is also the beginning of the first density of the next Creation (28.15). It is “both omega and alpha, the spiritual mass of the infinite universes becoming one central sun or Creator once again. Then is born a new universe, a new infinity, a new Logos which incorporates all that the Creator has experienced of Itself.” (52.12)
174  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sentiment Poll 1/26/2013 on: January 26, 2013, 12:37:37 PM
Bumping to get more votes.
175  Economy / Speculation / Sentiment Poll 1/26/2013 on: January 26, 2013, 12:05:32 AM
Yesterday (UTC) closed at $17.40 BTC/USD. Will the 26th close higher or lower?

This is based on UTC/GMT time. The closing price is the last price of the trading day.

Yesterday's poll: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138705.0

Edit: Closed at $17.59
176  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just bought my ticket for Bitcoin 2013 in San Jose! on: January 25, 2013, 08:24:44 PM

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Hobbyist Fee: US$100*


This is what most of us would like to see.

Cause according to DeathAndTaxes we are too poor and greedy to go (which he edited out of his statement) that is why it is only for the elitist of the bitcoin world.
You mention greedy. That's a good point. Would a true bitcoin enthusiast rather have $300 in bitcoins or pay $300 for a ticket to a conference?
177  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just bought my ticket for Bitcoin 2013 in San Jose! on: January 25, 2013, 07:50:40 PM
Only in the same way looking at porn is a better way to enjoy sexuality than going out on dates.
In smoothie's defense, paying people a large sum of money just to socialize is usually associated with prostitution.

Your analogy can go that way as well. Wink

Also, no harm intended. I hope the conference is enjoyable.

No harm taken, the analogy just totally doesn't make sense and suggests a highly limited view of the world, or not a lot of forethought put into what you're saying.  It makes as much sense as saying that becoming a parent is usually associated with prostitution.
I concede your point.
178  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just bought my ticket for Bitcoin 2013 in San Jose! on: January 25, 2013, 07:47:58 PM

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Hobbyist Fee: US$100*


This is what most of us would like to see.
179  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sentiment Poll 1/25/2013 on: January 25, 2013, 03:51:40 PM
Another losing poll.
180  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Military Company's Server Hacked: False Flag Attacks on Syria, Chemical Warfare on: January 25, 2013, 03:21:36 PM
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