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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CYP] CYPHER [QUBIT][C-CEX - BITTREX - CRYPTSY] ## WE'RE STILL ALIVE ! on: December 22, 2016, 08:31:11 PM

We are alive.



Cypher7A69

Hey buddy!
We want to offer you 1 BTC for the accesses to this thread and twitter account.
We have a well known and old bitcointalk user that is OK to act as our escrow for this transaction.
Cheers!

wow ...

a newbie? ... who are you ( guys ) setting up this profile now? ...

or are you still the same dev? ...

#crysx
162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New stratum/getwork proxy with Web-based GUI and pools management on: December 22, 2016, 12:44:27 AM
As I start it has no EXE file

its java based ...

so run it from a java container ...

if in windows ( judging by the 'exe' you are expecting - you are ) and you have the latest java installed - just double click it ( i think - i dont use windows ) ...

#crysx
163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]B3 Hybrid POW/POS [X11] - ANTI-INSTAMINE, NO PREMINE, NO ICO, NO IPO[ANN] on: December 21, 2016, 05:28:14 AM
is it Scrypt ou X11 Huh?

what rpc/p2p ports are being used?



It is Scrypt, mining is currently until block 500 possible. 

limxdev ...

can i just transfer coins - then compile new wallet - then transfer back? ...

or is this a new blockchain? ...

#crysx
164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]B3 Hybrid POW/POS [X11] - ANTI-INSTAMINE, NO PREMINE, NO ICO, NO IPO[ANN] on: December 21, 2016, 05:27:10 AM

heh. block 509, creeping along ...

...

https://github.com/LIMXTEC/B3-CoinV2/blob/3fc7a52dfd5a5678e1469daee64bcd0283019f56/src/rpcblockchain.cpp#L49

is not working !!

Code:
    "difficulty" : {
        "proof-of-work" : 199.54042675,
        "proof-of-stake" : 0.00029220
    },

hey bumba ...

need to chat - can you skype soon please mate? ...

#crysx
165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ✹✹✹ GOLDBLOCKS ✹✹✹ PORTABLE WEALTH ✹✹✹ on: December 21, 2016, 05:23:06 AM
Don't like gb.suprnova.cc anymore??

hehehe ...

you are awesome ocminer ...

come on - as if no one likes your pool system Cheesy ...

we are building one hell of a system also - slowly ... but as you know - a LOT of work is involved and some issues can exist ...

our ( cwi ) pools were initially internal - but will soon become available to the public as well mate ... soon to come out of 'beta' ...

simple pools first Wink ...

#crysx
166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]B3 Hybrid POW/POS [X11] - ANTI-INSTAMINE, NO PREMINE, NO ICO, NO IPO[ANN] on: December 19, 2016, 08:21:06 PM
importing worked fine, minted #243 but all my coins are staked now and I only have 1 connection, nobody else is staking?
do i need my wallet open (24/7) for staking? Or is it ok if i only open it once a day?

Yes that is okay...you have to unlock for staking.

so there is no difference from 24/7 and only one or 2 times by day to the staking amount in 24hours?

That is also possible. I want to create some POS blocks.

had i been included in any of this - you would have had all the seednodes involved AND the coins weight to stake in those seeds ...

this is just friggin soopy and droidz all over again ...

#crysx
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]B3 Hybrid POW/POS [X11] - ANTI-INSTAMINE, NO PREMINE, NO ICO, NO IPO[ANN] on: December 16, 2016, 06:07:13 AM
B3COIN MEMBERS LIST

"nyteo", "Altcoin11", "cryptospreader", "rindo", "TreeAcid"
"tekyboy", "kevin1234a", "ErikW79", "SushiNoTomato", "Nthused"
"SIX3P0", "telematico", "Limx Dev", "Radent", "dfox101"
"daveolake", "Lafu", "Mr.Bubels", "zdeni82", "minerjoen"
"bitvalak", "pwpwpw", "bumbacoin", "rindo", "kdsmith18542"

"GamerMiner", "testbug", "Potent", "nikl", "max2000irc"
"benjy33", "Kuriko", "DanWalker", "steve321", "PCC"
"sunce33", "joshafest", "VanoPupkin", "scambust",
"JasonXG", "sweet bird", "Dagmen", "YoBit", "fairglu"
"Daffadile", "Lazyriver", "ImHash", "moon010", "valley365"
"nicemycoin", "pisko", "zdeni82", "HiggsBosunBlues", "chorizanga"

what on earth is this mate?

#crysx
168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ✹✹✹ GOLDBLOCKS ✹✹✹ PORTABLE WEALTH ✹✹✹ on: December 15, 2016, 04:16:02 AM
hi all ...

who ever this person is that is mining below - please STOP mining on the lodiff stratum and start on the hidiff port instead ... also - please fix the setup of your miner as you have been mining for 24hours and are casuing all sorts of grief to the pools database ...

as you can see below, your shares are all being rejected - and your miner is banned from the stratum on occasion - only to have you mine again when the ban is lifted ...

so could please do these two things - stop mining on the lodiff port and start on the hidiff port AND fix the settings of your miner to the right parameters ... so that the pool can start working as normal again ...

i dont want to ban you completely from the pool as i do see this as an honest mistake - but will have no choice if this continues for too much longer ...

and apologies for the display of your worker - but i can see no other way to get in touch with you ...

tanx ...

#crysx

Code:
2016-12-15 04:08:36,178 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:36,312 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:36,440 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:36,442 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:36,539 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:36,636 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:36,737 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:36,801 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:36,833 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:36,836 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:36,899 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:36,901 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:36,965 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:36,997 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:36,999 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:37,125 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:37,128 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:37,195 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:37,260 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:37,263 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:37,328 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:37,328 INFO DBInterface # Inserting 75 Share Records
2016-12-15 04:08:37,389 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:37,392 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:37,455 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:37,491 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
2016-12-15 04:08:37,493 INFO interfaces # pacttodo.pacttodo4 [41.225.184.239] diff(0.000000/0.015625) job_id(513) share(4) INVALID Share is above target
169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]: cpuminer-opt v3.4.12, updated zcoin, fixed scryptjane on: December 14, 2016, 11:11:20 AM
I am trying to find the version of 32bit of CPU miner but failed to find out, can someone help me to get the 32bit CPU miner so i can also start or if there is no version for 32bit then i have to upgrade my windows for 64bit Sad please help me to find 32bit version of CPUminer please.

an x32 miner CAN be compiled ...

if someone is wiling to stuff around with the headache that windows compilations are ...

the amount of work to get a windows compile done is quite extensive - so maybe someone is willing to do it for a small fee ...

hope you find one ...

#crysx

Hi Crysx, howareya?

There's more than just compiling for Windows. 32 bit CPU miners are old and don't support newer algos. And 32 bit CPUs don't
support optimizations like AES, AVX. There is no market for any dev to put any effort to continue to support 32 bit miners.

If you really want to try 32 bit mining I believe cpuminer-multi is stil supported but there is no 32 bit binary provided so you
will need to compile it yourself.

It's probably time to get a 64 bit system.


hi joblo ...

im really well - a huge amount progressing in the background and backend of chainworks industries ( cwi ) ...

i think a basic website is in order - just to show there is life Tongue ... but a great deal has been done so far - and a great deal more will be ... and unfortunately - there isnt too much to show yet - because its all backend work ... except for the pool system ( http://pool.chainworksindustries.com/ ) where the custom stratum built by one of the better python / stratum devs - is now complete and in testing for the cwi pool system ... a few little bug squishing and some little tweaks - and the stratum should be ready for full production in the coming week ...

which is one fo the reasons why i have always kept an eye on this project ( and also because you helped me a huge amount in the earlier days ) for an idea ive had for a while - that i can now put into development / project status very shortly - which you would be perfectly suited ... it is a private one though - so no open source for the setup of this project - so ive not approached you with it since our last conversation regarding privatized / custom systems ...

since the hell that broke loose with sp and his greed - i have moved into the background and shadows - building cwi into a massive infrastructure system ... sp thinks he built a big farm ... he aint seen nothing yet Wink ... he should have continued to help and support me - instead of disregard me altogether and go back on his word ... anyway ...

one of those components of this ecosystem is the linux / windows / osx compilation systems - so that we can have a system that will allow the compilation of binaries for all these operating systems simulataneously ... gitian is a quite difficult to setup - but may be the way we go for certain compiles initially ...

though 32bit is STILL being used for some odd reason ( i just finished a windows migration ( ge / latitude ) and they used ALL 32bit windows desktops - go figure ) - i totally agree with your statement that a 64bit upgrade really is necessary - especially in this day and age ...

so as far as the miner compilation is concerned - it would be a 'nice' thing to have an x32 miner available as well as an x64 one - but it is a major headache ( epsylon3 can attest to this unconditionally - hehehe ) to have downward compatibility ...

one of the modules for the cwi pool system is for smaller miners - cpu and smaller gpu systems - to be able to mine on dedicated pools and systems ... this in essence is not a difficult thing to do - but seems to mean we will require 'our' miner compiled and run - and not just a 'community' open source version like this amazing creation you have here ... hence the privatization of the miner ...

in any case - you are doing an awesome job here - and ill still be around ... always in the background mate ...

we should catchup soon ...

#crysx
170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CYP] CYPHER [QUBIT][C-CEX - BITTREX - CRYPTSY] ## WE'RE STILL ALIVE ! on: December 11, 2016, 11:56:16 AM

We are alive.



Cypher7A69

Dead scammer  Huh

You are the same old scammer DRZ Dev.

yup ...

he is mate ...

he created this coin ( similar codebase actually ) and a few others to rip off the communities for btc ...

#crysx
171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]: cpuminer-opt v3.4.12, updated zcoin, fixed scryptjane on: December 11, 2016, 10:40:32 AM
I am trying to find the version of 32bit of CPU miner but failed to find out, can someone help me to get the 32bit CPU miner so i can also start or if there is no version for 32bit then i have to upgrade my windows for 64bit Sad please help me to find 32bit version of CPUminer please.

an x32 miner CAN be compiled ...

if someone is wiling to stuff around with the headache that windows compilations are ...

the amount of work to get a windows compile done is quite extensive - so maybe someone is willing to do it for a small fee ...

hope you find one ...

#crysx
172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TES] ϟ The Tesla ϟ Decentralize the Energy System ϟ Bittrex - Cryptopia on: December 11, 2016, 10:32:25 AM
ok - im here now ...

found you ...

im going to readup on the thread when i have a little time ...

#crysx

Welcome to Teslacoin!

tanx mate ...

im trying to readup as much as i can on tes ...

though im a little discouraged that its PoS only ...

but great idea ...

telsa himself was a genius - and creative ... crazy also - but most are on that level of genius ...

#crysx
173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TX]TRANSFER - BITTREX - MULTIPOOL - ANDROID - POS,TOR,MN, STEALTH on: December 11, 2016, 10:22:40 AM
there was 0 volume on the exchange before i made a trade for 0.00060000... CMON ! i know theres money to be made because my bot has already made some in the past few days while i was trying to build volume.

SHOW US THE BOT-TTEEE ...

Wink ...

crysx
174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TX]TRANSFER - BITTREX - MULTIPOOL - ANDROID - POS,TOR,MN, STEALTH on: December 11, 2016, 10:20:03 AM
there was 0 volume on the exchange before i made a trade for 0.00060000... CMON ! i know theres money to be made because my bot has already made some in the past few days while i was trying to build volume.
I am broke, I have been duped by another DEV, this is why I have no money, this is why I asked other people to help.

People need to take advantage of the bargain, because TX coin could easily become 100 times its current selling price.

and this is why there is people like us ( cwi ) you can count on mate ...

#crysx
175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TX]TRANSFER - BITTREX - MULTIPOOL - ANDROID - POS,TOR,MN, STEALTH on: December 11, 2016, 10:18:38 AM
How much memory do a masternode on android use?
Do it need a static IP on android?
Trafic?

a static ip is the best way to do this mate ...

as for the memory - someone else needs to answer that ...

but 4gb on most mn daemons is sufficient - though the more ram - the better ...

you could aways create a swap file in the vps system if you are using one ...

update - i just realized you said ANDROID ... my bad ...

#crysx
176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MonetaryUnit [MUE] Quark based, CPU mining, faucet, explorer, pool, wallet on: December 11, 2016, 10:15:29 AM
There a current list of working nodes?  Wallet doesn't seem to want to connect.

Thanks

Hi Jim, nice to see you still into MUE Smiley
Can you try 5.196.208.284
Which is our pool IP.
Cheers

sent you a pm about this ...

#crysx
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CYP] CYPHER [QUBIT][C-CEX - BITTREX - CRYPTSY] ## WE'RE STILL ALIVE ! on: December 11, 2016, 06:04:39 AM

We are alive.



Cypher7A69

well ...

the interpretation of alive is debatable ...

'we' ? ... its just YOU - and no one else ...

we looked cyp a while back and actually had consideration for the backing of it - but since YOU prefer to screw people out of btc and all that is good - WE ( this is plural for more than ONE - in case you didnt know ) decided against working with a tarred coin and tarred dev ...

had you actually been a decent person about it all - 'we' could have done something very big with this project ... but alas - you were not ...

and as such - any and ALL the ideas and money and development has gone into granite ( grn ) instead ...

you will soon see the background work and immense infrastructure we ( cwi ) have built and will be utilizing for the development and support of our coins - and others ...

WE at CWI are alive and growing strong ... YOU have just come back from dead ... a walking zombie ... nothing more ...

#crysx
178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DopeCoin | 8 % POS | UPDATE YOUR WALLET ASAP on: December 11, 2016, 05:25:04 AM
thats nice to hear dope is still so long in business it would be really sad to see no new development, and plans to get it moved into the future.

We still work on the new Core for Dope.

YOU TOO limxdev? ...

omg ... seriously ...

#crysx
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EGC] EverGreenCoin | Environmental Green Causes | Full 7% PoS | Foundation on: December 11, 2016, 01:22:00 AM
Let's end this discussion about a third party project, ok? Getting tired of it.
Everybody is free to think and act as he pleases, as long as it doesn't harm uninvolved people like mentioning them as responsible.
So let's move on with bringing EGC to where it should belong, in the cryptocurrency top 50.

giz ...

when someone involves egc in ANY form - then discussion about it and the 'thing' they are involving egc in IS a part of the discussion ...

crypto top 50? ...

why are we aiming so low mate Wink ...

@crysx
180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EGC] EverGreenCoin | Environmental Green Causes | Full 7% PoS | Foundation on: December 10, 2016, 02:02:57 AM
what you have described is a pyramid scheme - NOT an mlm ...

multi-level-marketing systems ( note - systems NOT schemes ) actually work and ARE legal all over the world ...

Thank you for correcting me, I've said that this looked like a pyramid scheme many times before in this thread and you're the first to correct me.

However I'm struggling to see what the actual difference is (apart form the name and maybe how it's documented). This isn't helped when lots of the standard documentation seems to suggest they're both very similar. For instance the first paragraph on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing

Quote
Multi-level marketing (MLM), also called pyramid selling,[1][2][3][4] network marketing,[3][5][6] and referral marketing,[7] is a controversial pyramid-shaped marketing strategy where profit is theoretically derived from two revenue streams: from a sales force of a participating salesperson compensated via the direct sales generated by the salesperson, as well as from the sales of other salespeople that the participating salesperson has recruited and of their recruits down the line.

Even my quote above from the RBI seems to link both MLM and Pyramid selling together!

It seems that both MLM and the illegal pyramid schemes share a lot of things in common and very few differences (mostly in terms of what's being sold). From what I understand of how uniquebtc was setup I think the majority of my description is probably still correct whatever name you put on it.

we ( cwi ) have been working with steven for a while now - and have adopted him as one of our own - because of the skill and honesty and transparency as well as the integrity he brings to the table ... a few of the many traits we work with on a daily basis - and will continue to seek those who hold these traits to work with ... bringing a better 'system' so that 'schemes' are not as easily accepted ...

thats my 7btc worth ...

I'm aware of who you are and your involvement. One of the initial concerns (which was corrected relatively quickly) was that uniquebtc appeared to be linked directly to EGC and Steven (which is isn't) and how that it looked suspicious.

I believe that this wasn't meant to be a scam, unfortunately however that's how its come across. I think at least some of that has come from raised emotions from all sides when responding and the various language barriers we have.

I shall go and read some more on the differences between MLM and the various scams.

I'm with Gizfreak, all opinions should be in EGC  Grin
thats my 2EGC at least.

all good mate ...

you are a respected member of teh community here - and in others ... i too know who you are - and understand you mean no harm ... you base most of your decisions and opinions on fact - with some emotion thrown in for good measure ... after all - what are we without an emotional connection ...

the main difference ( and also why it is LEGAL all over the world ) is that an mlm allows its corresponding recruits to make more money and become further entrenched ( and as such make eevn more money ) than the person that introduced them ... unlike a pyramid 'scheme' where ONLY the people 'above' you can make more money than you - and the only way to make money is to recruit others to screw them out of their cash ...

most mlms actually sell products and services ... pyramids sell the scheme and filter cash through it ... hence why pyramid schemes are illegal ... its a form of gambling ...

the mlm that this group is pushing is their way of making money - and unless its a professional setup - then this setup can go nowhere except conjure images of 'scams' and 'ripoffs' - even though they 'may' not be ... i have not looked into it - as i have no interest in it ... BUT - the system MUST be professionally setup for someone like me to even look at it ...

this system is about btc / money - whether invested by this group or not ... it is NOT about egc and the projects' goals and focus ... so again - i am not interested in it ... there are MANY other btc driven coins out there to play with and make huge amounts of money from ... eth - zec - dcr - and many many others ...

egc is an ecologically based coin - and the project itself is driven by the need ( and want ) to support our ecology and environment ...

again mate - i have not followed what uniquebtc is doing ... but for those in the 'group from india' that have invested large sums of btc into egc - it seems that its ALL about the btc return and not the egc project itself ... if that is the case - it is understandable WHY the return is more important than the project itself - but doesnt make it a good thing in my opinion ...

if the focus IS egc - then ANY and ALL investements ( whether btc or time or effort ) is worth it - and worth the risk of 'losing' it for the benefit of the project ...

mlm or not - one should ALWAYS be aware of the pitfalls - even in legit businesses - and be aware that and decision that is made one way or another - has consequences ...

egc is a good coin - a good project - has a good community - and a good team behind it ... thats all that matters to us ...

if a business model it to be structured for it - whether mlm or not - then egc as a whole will benefit from a good solid foundation of a business model ...

EVERYONE deserves to succeed - its jut HOW you do it ... this project along with many others that are honest and forthright - will suffer in the beginning ... we do not scam or rip anyone or any business off to make the btc / cashflow to support the projects we take on - like many of the 'devs' out there that create these types of coins and disappear ...

nup - we are here for the long haul - and with steven as the sole / lead for 'his baby' egc - this coin is destined to be up there with some of the best ... and we are proud to be not only associated with the coin - but proud to have an honest hard workign talented developer like steven on our side also ...

as mentioned before - those traits are very hard to come by in crypto - but are what makes the difference ...

we will be updating the cwi op next week - ill be spending some time on it and will make it as presentable as possible ( though steven will need to reorganize it and make it look presentable if he has the time - hint hint mate Wink ) - and egc will be part of that update ...

o - and always remember - these are MY opinions and not of steven or the egc community in general ... just mine alone ...

#crysx
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