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So we have the next round of trolls started.
Newbies accounts pop up and start being concerned, or not liking all kind of things that were published months ago.
Probably the same group that sold the peak in the last 2 days and now are trying to buy lower.
People that are selling based on whatever someone is writing on bitcointalk are the biggest fools ever
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Poloniex is not a necessity for Iconomi.
If it's listed there, it would be beneficial for both.
Did you see Round which has reached 12th position on coin market cap. It has grew over 250 times in some months. And it is only listed on Liqui. Although, this seems strange as Round is not as popular as Iconomi. Do you think these are fake trades on Liqui to pump round?
Jani, if that is you, can you please confirm with Iconomi account? |
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I still didn't get why ICONOMI changed their original plan of distributing dividend to buyback. If Taas can pay dividend, why can't ICONOMI?
ICONOMI has become concerned about getting in trouble with the American SEC as an unregulated security. Many think poloniex will not list ICN because of this. So the devs changed from dividends to buyback-and-burn to distribute profits. This will make ICN increasingly rare. TaaS has yet to distribute a dividend. They may change plans too. ICN would still be classed as a security. Buybacks won't change that. I think there's more going on with regards to the whole buybacks/exchanges thing. As for TaaS, I guess we'll have to wait and see. Unfortunately I don't see Americans getting a piece of the crypto based funds anytime soon unless using an alternative identities and VPNs. Uncle Sam will need to shake off these laws that were written 50 years ago and stop "protecting" the small and medium investors. And I don't think it will happen anytime soon - there are just too many interests, money and control involved. Sadly that USA is one of the most hypocrite places in the world (on the macro level) |
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they kept their word . 5k ETH iconomi destroyed . Congratulations on a great project .
Where can I see this? Nowhere. He's just guessing 'cos the price went up, and seems to be unaware that the platform opened up for viewing. It wasn't even 5,000 ETH. It was 1,000 spread over 90 days. Just when I was about to vote for you.. |
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We need a website / app that has a continuously updated list of the key ICN statistics:
1. Total ICN burned to date / total remaining ICN
2. Current ICNX Price / % increase or decrease in past day / week / month
3. Number of ICNX platform users / total value of ICNX market
4. Current ICNP total portfolio value - % increase from original $4.25M endowment
5. List of ICNP holdings - % increase in value since purchase for each
How can people possibly understand how valuable ICONOMI is becoming if the data remains hidden and hard to find?
Come on, Tim / Jani. Communicating the ICOMONI situation to new users is so simple and so important. JUST DO IT.
ICNP has to show the following on Iconomi public domain:a. ICNP uninvested assets, their total worth in $ and % increase from original seed investment b. For each investment: Date of investment, amount, $ value (adding cryptographic proof would be very good to have - this is the TX on the blockchain and this is a signed message that proves that Iconomi controls the corresponding private key) c. Based on (b): For each investment - current price (both in the original invested currency and $), unrealized profits, realized profits d. ICNP net value (a+b+c) and % increase from original seed investment |
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What's a bipolar communauty  Not the community but only hololulu, he has this mood swings being a supporter to a fudster all because the team hasn't kissed his ass for a week. You have to make some back read to see his reactions. Can't blame him, he sold his kidney all for ICN platform. It wouldnt be the same without him though. And it probably would be without you LMAO! ... cold blooded, dawg. Happy $ATH mooks! I am tumescent. Why? You only have like 4 ICN  |
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fiiiiiinally
but nothing will happen until platform release...
What do you think could happen? Pump would not be that huge due to Kraken and low liquidity. maybe 1.5 usd?
1.5 usd means x3 Not so bad. Real pump will be after people can create their own funds |
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...I am 100% in ICN (scooped some more in the last 2 days)
We are currently within 4% of ICN All Time High (ATH) in terms of USD and up to 5X ICO price in USD. Hopefully it's time for a breakout soon! summer time ahead |
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We cool. I'm not as funny as I think I am sometimes. I'll delete my comment too.
Me too. Let's just put this whole messy business behind us, but leave small traces so that people wonder what we're talking about... and get paranoid that we're working together to bring down Iconomi, bitcoin and the entire crypto space. Which is totally not what we're doing, guys! Honest! hahahahaha jokers.. Everybody has acces to the platform now... Only trading is disabled untill the end of this month.. You skeptics are only making yourselfs look like fools.. I was a crackpot wasn,t i.....who,s the crackpot now mendeleev Be careful about calling Uncle Mend a crackpot. Note his new sig. My uncle has indeed good sense of humor! You can't take that from him. Signature was changed shortly after I wrote in slack that now I am 100% in ICN (scooped some more in the last 2 days) |
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We cool. I'm not as funny as I think I am sometimes. I'll delete my comment too.
Me too. Let's just put this whole messy business behind us, but leave small traces so that people wonder what we're talking about... and get paranoid that we're working together to bring down Iconomi, bitcoin and the entire crypto space. Which is totally not what we're doing, guys! Honest! Need to delete something?  |
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Will the supply in coinmarketcap be updated?
It still displays 87,000,000 ICN. If the team bought back and burned what they bought does it mean that the supply should appear to have less than what it is now in coinmarketcap?
Considering the only burn so far has been 1000 ETH worth(while ETH price was less than 20$ at the time) it wouldn't matter much if they updated it anyway. However in the future it would be of significant use indeed if we can know the current available supply of ICN. Still this might require a degree of colaboration between CMC and ICONOMI that I'm not sure is possible at least at this time. They didn't update it yet because the team doesn't care about their share for now, even though they could have the first distribution already. The total supply will not change before they allocate 1/18 of their share. |
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Someone posted this in slack. If DAMP was a car, it would be this car https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodhound_SSCA prototype Eurojet EJ200 jet engine developed for the Eurofighter and bound for a museum, was donated to the project. This will take the car to 300 mph (480 km/h), after which a bespoke hybrid rocket designed by Nammo will boost the car up to 1,000 miles per hour (1,609 km/h). A third engine, a Jaguar supercharged V-8, will be used as an auxiliary power unit and to drive the oxidizer pump for the rocket. https://i.imgur.com/Zeztkfi.jpgA car that will never be available for public use?  I lol'd  yeah, that was a good one |
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If I buy ICN tokens can i earn dividends on these if I store them in MYETHERWALLET? I am a bit confused about how I can grow the dividends by owning the tokens, or dividends are only given to special holders? I want to slowly get involved in holding a bag of this token.
you don't get dividends anymore no one gets dividends. Did they announce officially that there won't be dividends in the future? I don't think recent buybacks = no dividends |
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Trolls are very active into this thread and all time tries their best to keep the price low even this project is backed by very legit team so very soon price will boost if you are follow them deeply in current situation.
And from some strange reason most if not all have newbie accounts.. |
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Has the team had any problems with the platform it should solve? Ok, but .... because you made me stay here losing money until it this resolved? Do you know what my complaint is? Who don't have the necessary responsibility to say the exact day they're going to take the platform. Show a serious and responsible roadmap.
Want investors not to be pissed off? Say the fucking day you're going to have the product ready!
You are either a trader/flipper or an investor. If you a trader you had your chance to cash out for x2 ethereum and even more for bitcoin. If you didn't, it makes you a bad trader. If you are an investor you shouldn't look at the price before the product is out. Focus on the fundamentals and follow the team - if you think something is wrong - sell. Everything else is immatureness or trolling You skippedover his point and got your fud out. No, I didn't because you made me stay here losing money until it this resolved is exactly that - traders could sell for profit, investors wait for the product. Does apple announce exact date of new products when they start to develop them, or short time before the release? When they announce iPhone7 development do you jump over and ask for exact date of release? And who made him stay here? Did the team locked his tokens? Please explain his point if you can |
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Has the team had any problems with the platform it should solve? Ok, but .... because you made me stay here losing money until it this resolved? Do you know what my complaint is? Who don't have the necessary responsibility to say the exact day they're going to take the platform. Show a serious and responsible roadmap.
Want investors not to be pissed off? Say the fucking day you're going to have the product ready!
You are either a trader/flipper or an investor. If you a trader you had your chance to cash out for x2 ethereum and even more for bitcoin. If you didn't, it makes you a bad trader. If you are an investor you shouldn't look at the price before the product is out. Focus on the fundamentals and follow the team - if you think something is wrong - sell. Everything else is immatureness or trolling |
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It was obvious to a lot of crypto traders that ETH would be doing a bull run going into May for a number of reasons (addition to Alphabay, huge mainstream companies joining EEA at end of May, ice-age kicking in, Raiden MVP 85% complete)
No crystal ball required to have known 5 weeks ago (as soon as information about new EEA members and Alphabay was released at end of March) that ETH would be going above $75 at end of April, like I kept repeating to anyone who would listen in the slack.
I go back to this same talking point because it's a tremendous mistake that someone would dump 100% of their ETH at $44, while a lot of us were buying and holding on for dear life.
Indeed. I was buying under $50 too. But there's still risks involved. A lot of people worry about big sell offs too. It's good to imagine other outcomes though. If there'd been some major bad news for ETH, then they'd have made the right choice. I'm not defending them though. I haven't even looked into them. Perhaps they are kicking themselves. But we all do that from time to time Buy Litecoin. There is one fundamental problem with that: BCAP and melonport are aiming to build/invest in the crypto sphere. How can you pretend to build a crypto platform based on ethereum or to be a fund manager for crypto projects and convert all of your ICO money to toilet paper? You're basically saying that holding ethereum or bitcoin for few years is too risky. They could simply convert enough of the ICO money to cover for 2 years of expenses. Just like Iconomi did |
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No Polo + no dividends + buybacks = no insane volatility = good for holders, bad for traders.
Really ... price dumping while most other coins are up in green ... how is that good for holders ? Can I be a trader without being also a holder? wtf do I trade if I am not holding anything? Internet is awesome. http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/12/difference-investing-trading.asp I bet you can look up the difference between short-term and long-term yourself. Yes. Actually, no one can define "long term". Even Warren Buffet. And he have stocks for like 60 years. You can watch him on YT talking about it. In crypto world "Long term" is more than 3 months. So, you were saying.... I will try to translate: In crypto, lunch money investments is not more than 3 months. After that we need to sell with profit, or we won't have more lunch money to play with. And then we have nothing better to do all day, so we may just keep posting the same posts over and over again. Here is a crypto world investors challenge for you: https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI#balancescheck the first page and tell me how much of them think that long term investment is 3 months of development? I don`t buy lunch with x00 bitcoins. I hold. I expect xx00 BTC revenue from ICN. I am not a child. I didn`t insult anyone. But if you summarize your posts and actions, you will find that you have insulted many, many people. I think you are the most insulting person around. So, I will translate it for you. You are talking with someone who have invested faaar more than you. Actually we are several people that have put serious money here. I don`t care if someone believe or not. You are trying to explain things that are far beyond your understandings. You are trying to keep this place "clean" by hiding the problems. Actually, this thread is dead. As the Slack. And all other channels will be, because of this attitude. Yours and Jani`s. Maybe it is time for different approach.... I will add clarification about "3 months" especially for you: February - Stratis price = 8 cents. Now is 1.15$ February - Ether price = 10.60$. Now is 96.70$ February - Dash price = 16$. Now is 93$ February - ETC price = 1.37$. Now is 7.75$ October 2013 MtGox was handling 70% of all bitcoin transaction. 3 months later.... you know what happened. 3 months in crypto is not long term. It is like "forever". Stop being childish. And I suggest that you should consult with someone how to handle а forum. Deleting FUD and trolling is ok, but you should know how to avoid offenses against other community members. It doesn`t matter if they put x00 or 0.xx BTC in ICN. You are not doing a favor to ICN. If you go and read other threads, you will find that this coin managed to make really bad name, because of you and Jani. You forgot SIA _ was around 25sat, now it is 112 and few more The point is the same - back then you, me and everyone else thought that ICN is worth buying. Some hoped to make fast profits and move on, and some saw the potential behind the project. 2 different things. What had changed is that everything else pumped why ICN gained "only" x4. For you and other traders/flippers it makes it bad choice, for me and other investors it feels like fundamentals are strong, beta is excellent and it is a good opportunity to scoop more ICN before we take off. It doesn't make ICN shit, it makes your choices bad. And let's not compare bags. you don't know how much I have, and I don't know or care how much you have. Lunch money is because of your posts here and in slack - you sound like a lunch money flipper (username checks out). This is actually your first post worth reading. |
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No Polo + no dividends + buybacks = no insane volatility = good for holders, bad for traders.
Really ... price dumping while most other coins are up in green ... how is that good for holders ? Can I be a trader without being also a holder? wtf do I trade if I am not holding anything? Internet is awesome. http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/12/difference-investing-trading.asp I bet you can look up the difference between short-term and long-term yourself. Yes. Actually, no one can define "long term". Even Warren Buffet. And he have stocks for like 60 years. You can watch him on YT talking about it. In crypto world "Long term" is more than 3 months. So, you were saying.... I will try to translate: In crypto, lunch money investments is not more than 3 months. After that we need to sell with profit, or we won't have more lunch money to play with. And then we have nothing better to do all day, so we may just keep posting the same posts over and over again. Here is a crypto world investors challenge for you: https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI#balancescheck the first page and tell me how much of them think that long term investment is 3 months of development? |
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Has there been contact or is there any relationship with non-crypto investors? Individuals or firms jumping into crypto the first time. permalinkembed [–]jani8x 7 points 4 hours ago Yes, we are cooperating and talking with several different institutional and private investors. We can’t comment on any specific details at the moment. This little piece of information is enough for me to hold on to my ICN. Obviously, since I didn't gamble with my lunch money, am perfectly happy to sit on my investment for a while.
Because what crypto has taught me is that if you are patient enough and have balls of steel, you will earn great great rewards. tell that to all great "investors" and traders that cry about the price like little girls. Just like folks that sold BTC sub $5 or when it pumped from 7 to 13 or from 90 to 160 Same goes for ethereum. 2 years after they all have one thing in common - "Damn, wish I'd hold" |
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