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161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling destitute on: September 02, 2019, 07:10:39 PM
This is why gambling should be played with moderation. Most of gambling addicts find it difficult to exit addiction in gambling; perhaps due to their personal issues and problem thus we can't judge them if they only find the fun in gambling but we should still stop them as long as we can so that it won't be too late for change.

Because stopping is harder than you think.

Addiction is not a joke, it is so hard to be addicted to something since people can see that you are addicted but you yourself can't actually tell that you are addicted. Even if you want to stop gambling, there is this urge that doesn't stop unless you gamble again. I am addicted in the past but not in gambling but in online games that is why I know it is hard. How hard? I asked for help when I am addicted to online games, years later I still can't stop playing but these days I can stop playing in a day for just an hour of gameplay unlike in the past that it is uncontrollable.
So the change will occur even though at first you find it hard to stop, but when addicts have the desire to stop then in the course of gambling addiction can be minimized, because we know that even though we can stop this gambling addiction at least we will not really stop from the game.
I think it also depends on the source of funding you have. In case you do not have more money to gamble with, how come you response to the urge to gamble? An addict is addict as long as he has the findings to pay for his addiction. If it is not allowed by law or if the addict does not have the findings, you will not respond to the urge to gamble any more.
162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What withdrawal fee do you consider as fair in gambling sites? on: September 02, 2019, 05:58:30 PM
"Free" should be standard for any decent casino. I can live with incredibly low and fair withdrawal fees, like Bustadice, but free withdrawal is ideal.

Other casinos (in addition to FortuneJack) that I use that pay your withdrawal fees:

BetChain
BitcoinPenguin
Nitrogensports (one per week)

Don't know about many others...
Fee may actually vary from casino to casino. Like we have different fee being charged on different crypto exchanges. Same is the case with casinos too. One providing great services will charge you a bit high as compared to the one that does not provide you great services. I think there should be a set amount of it to be charged. It could also increase with rise in the cost of operations of casinos.
163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: China Urges Philippines to Ban All Online Gambling! on: September 02, 2019, 05:16:12 PM
Philippines is a small economy and it depends on more neighboring countries for the development. This can be of infrastructure, and various other forms of development. China will not force without any perfect plan, and this time of Philippines didn't take necessary precautions China will surely make some strategies to eliminate.

From a common man's view Philippines won't consider this a big issue, because even if Philippines ban all form of gambling activities still there'll be gambling through bookies and other sources.
If someone violating the rules of their country then they will face legal actions so most of the activities will be stopped from gamblers side but like you said it will encourage more illegal form of gambling which can be never restricted by the government and also they will lose taxes by banning the gambling activities in their country.
Well in China, the things is very different if you compare it with the US. It is all banned in China. You are penalized if you are spotted gambling or providing gambling facilities. I think same is the case in Philippines where gambling is illegal. But there are no laws about the online gambling so majority of people are very involved in the online gambling.
164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I don't know how to trust a gambling site nowadays! on: August 30, 2019, 08:08:38 PM
I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize. If you do win that you'll do a KYC and I think they will hold on to your prize for days if I can remember it right that's the thing they're doing.
As a gambler, I always check the feedbacks of every gambling platforms before I gamble on the platforms because, many of my.winnings have been stuck in some known gambling platforms without missing world. KYC shouldn't be a yardstick for any gambler to trust a gambling website, they can disappoint you even with the KYC. Before you play in any gambling platforms ensure to research into the platforms before play.
This is a great way to have an insight into what kind of site have you clicked on. Reviews are composed of both good and bad and you can clearly have glimpse into how your journey is going to be in the site. Like we had the trust breach in ICO in 2018, you should not really trust the sites too. There are famous site on the internet and have been very professional so better stick to the top one.
165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The secret of gambling? on: August 28, 2019, 06:44:38 PM
After playing gambling games hundreds of times, without much effort in winning substantial profits at all, it makes me wonder what could be the secret of gambling? Personally, I find myself comfortable playing crypto-based gambling games, because of their greater level of accessibility than traditional games. I believe that gambling games which use cryptocurrencies and Blockchain tech, are much fairer than traditional ones within the mainstream world. Yet, you tend to lose more money than you've initially invested into a gambling game.

Which is why, I'm deeply curious to know if there's actually a secret within gambling that would allow me to win more than losing? Any thoughts about this will be greatly appreciated. Smiley

It doesn't exist at all, there may be a lot of videos on Youtube and articles online and even e-books and courses that will tell you the secret of gambling, but I doubt that will be effective you have to be a high roller with huge funds to cover and go after your loses and win, high-risk high gain.

It exist if you believe if there are gamblers out their who makes money in gambling.
I doubt gambling will be this popular if that is not possible, these people who tried to find strategies to win consistently are inspired because they believe tat there are people who are actually making money in gambling.

Personally as a gambler, I believe there are people who makes money and until now I'm still looking for that secret although I am not anymore aggressive before compared in the past. Who knows, time will come, we can find it, then that would be our ultimate success and life would be easy.

I don't know how long you can find out the secret because I don't think that the secret will come to many people since in the gambling we need to get the luck. But maybe if you can try hard, in the future, you can get the secret, but still, that is not worth for your money because I think you will lose much money before you can get the secret. I prefer to let it go and don't have any hope to get the secret because if I can get lucky, then I can win the money like other people's get.
The secret of gambling is as uncertain as the nature of gambling. It is not very easy to make money in gambling and on the average more people lose money than the number of people who win the games. This being said, it is not very wise to put in all your money in your gambling. Moreover, it is important to know if you are among the best gamblers to make money before you put in your money.
166  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Often Do you Bet on Politics? on: August 27, 2019, 06:55:55 PM
Only once, it was few years ago when Obama was still the president I remember Trump and Hillary are the only ones who had the most favored odds. I chose trump over Hillary because of some youtube videos about which of them are the lesser evil.  


I never bet on Politics. Voting for these politicians alone is already a gamble so I do not see the reason why I should still put some money on them. There are already many things to gamble on and adding Politics is just silly.
It depends on the event, sometimes they are predictable if you follow politics. When directbet was still up wetsuit had a huge bet on trump to be the next president.

I agree with you @Alle14, politic or political events are highly predictable though i have never gamble on any political event. With campaign leading to an election we can easily predict who is going to win unlike dice, binary option and lottery that are highly unpredictable.
The probability of finding the answer is more in sportbetting because we only have sew options to choose from but it doesn't going to increase our winning factor and I believe lot of unpredictable results were came after the election all over the world in the recent years.
I bet the US presidential election campaign would be the world cup of gambling lol. You could bet your coins over a candidate who runs for president. Speaking about sports betting, I think you have an edge to win the game over the guy who does not have good experience. Sports gambling is kind of thrilling as compared to poker and yes, you can make money in it.
167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I've lost on: August 26, 2019, 08:26:02 PM
OP not exactly lost their investment become their coins is their storage wallets during the dump, OP lost their patience to wait the pump pf bitcoin and op decide to gamble because he want to get back their money by doing this solution op try their luck to get back their money in the fastest way even he know the risk.

I think what you are trying to say is that Op was fighting back to regain his loss and I think this is a wrong approach to gamble. If you lose a gamble bet or you have reach the amount you wanted to lose, there is no point trying hard to get in back to regain your money. At this time, you are gambling with just emotion and all focus is how to regain your lost money back, hence the fun of gambling is gone, all you have left is aspersion.
If that is so, it should be clear that there is no sign in getting back you money once it is lost. The probability of doing so is very low. In fact the probability of winning is very low and the probability of wining the current round and re-winning your lost money is next to zero. So I think one should be careful while betting. It is an economic situation that is uncertain.
168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you guys started to gambling with cryptos or fiat money? on: August 26, 2019, 07:49:13 PM
Who is long into gambling was it fun or little more, started with fiat. Latter if they see it can be profitable are into crypto bets. Think this is matter of principal for each individual that gable was is sport or card game or slots. In last few years we have expansion of crypto gambling games in all fields. From this it only remains that in the end person who place bet will decide what will he invest fiat or crypto.

This reminds me of the time when online betting was not famous and there was only local currency to gamble with. There were many bookies and middleman to connect us to the main betting hub and this process was not easy and therefore not everyone could access bookies and could not gamble.
Later comes the era of bitcoin which has made online gambling easily accessible to everyone.
It made online gambling very accessible as those who understand crypto can easily play and choose the betting site they've love using crypto currency which are available inside the site, fiat gamblers also see this venue as a good alternatives when they wanted to play anonymously they don't need to provide important information before they can place their bets and enjoy playing, got  my first try using faucets earnings trying to enjoy while working
with  faucets
Yes crypto has made the stuff very easy and you can literally gamble your crypto with ease and convenience and you can even do so without getting yourself mentioned in the records too. The most important thing is your knowledge about crypto which enable you to explore every possible use of the coins. If you do not gamble and hold your coins, you might make more money in gambling.
169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I don't know how to trust a gambling site nowadays! on: August 26, 2019, 06:37:32 PM
Giving trust is really be hard when we are always thinking about the negatives side and been affected by what people had said.
I really understand how scams and phishing site spreading around, but we can't just be too much-overacted cause still a lot of reputable gambling sites that could be trusted until today.
Yes. It is not possible to trust these third-party sites with your money. After the huge loss in ICOs last year, people are not more careful about their money. They do not get involved into games that are of dubious nature or in which the prospects of making money in very low. In addition, we have had many cases in which sites would ban a gambler upon withdrawal requests so you are right.
170  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Things That Comes Into Your Mind When Winning... on: August 23, 2019, 06:50:14 PM
To be honest when I was younger it was good feeling, happy joy confident that i got something right. Now i dont know I dont have that much happiness and joy and confident I mean maybe cuz Im older and this is more fun to me. If I win good also if I Lose ok.

I dont have that rush so to be called as before.

That's the kind of winning that easily makes a gambler think he is special Smiley The gamblers becomes too confident, places a risky bet and ends up in trouble. This is why it's important to understand exactly how things work to avoid taking a blind risk. .


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Now i dont know I dont have that much happiness and joy and confident I mean maybe cuz Im older and this is more fun to me. If I win good also if I Lose ok.

You are no longer too emotional in gambling. This is a good thing I guess.




Confidence is great when it comes to gambling but overconfidence not backed by strategic moves I risky and this is what happens when you try to bet high upon a win in gambling. Similar situation happens when you lose your stack in the game. You try to win back but end up losing again. Under pressure and over elation both are dangerous for health.
171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the best gambling games originally from Asia? on: August 23, 2019, 03:05:36 PM
I feel Asians are better with awkward games, so you should not compare a country that deals with technology, and almost all games are online based to a country that keeps on promoting weird games. I am always surprised on how a game like cock fighting can be so celebrated among the Asians and this is really funny.

I am a great fan of adventure and I like to try out things but cock fighting is one thing I would never do, it seems to me like an abuse on the animals and in my country it’s an offense. Knowing that is a country’s most famous and most celebrated game is something that pisses me off and I will not be wrong to say that Asians have the worst kind of games.
Yeah thats true, in my country in asian of course, gambling is still very often with animals fight. if you often see fights between sheep in the television, showing the sheep clashing head each other, sit's definitely happening in my country. sheep are pitted here and become gambling materials and even a spectacle show that attracts many people.
All the leading casino games are originally from Europe and America. Poker and cards was discovered by the great gamblers of ancient times who needed some formulas like probability and invented the concept. Asia has no big contribution in the gambling category and I think it is something adopted into these regions. But there is a great market for gambling in Asia.
172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I've lost on: August 22, 2019, 09:04:39 PM
Sorry with your losses, you did a wrong choice whilst you are still into loss.
While we are in sympathy with OP’s losses yet he must realized this kind of mistakes is not normal and him being greed is the reason about this
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I know how painful it is to lose that amount while looking at the price hike of bitcoin. Cheer up man, there's still a lot of chances for you to recover in some other ways.
He must not risk the holding for gambling because those are different thing.he was stocked in the dumping price of bitcoin but he gambled the fund instead of waiting for the pump
Most of the time users get into gambling when there is immediate need for money. Long back they would've spend on gambling and have won a little. With that hope and not analysing much about the risk starts spending. This further turns to be a spending to recover back the loss. As in the quote lot many ways available for increasing the holdings, gambling too is one among the same when played understanding the limits.

It's not just for people who need immediate money who visit gambling places. After gambling becomes a lifestyle, someone will visit it as often as possible. Btw, I found a strange habit from gambling addicts. It seems that lose is the only goal they want to achieve, whether they realize it or not. Why? Most gamblers will quit after they have no more money to bet on. Meanwhile, when they win, they continue to gamble until they lose everything. I mean, as long as gambling addicts have money, they will keep gambling and they will stop after they are broke. Controlling our greed will become a must if we don't want to be such addict.
Gambling is not for everyone and this is what every new comer in the field need to understand. Gambling is very uncertain and if you are not in a position to afford good loss, you should not get involved in game. It is also about experience and about investment in yourself. With loss, you learn and that is enough to enable you win so be ready for worst and do your best.
173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Man won 12 times in lottery on: August 21, 2019, 02:03:45 PM
Winning 12 times is not because of luck, I don't believe it's just luck, he won because he is smart and maybe have exploited the system.
Lottery is a kind of game that is hard to win due to gamblers having a little chance of winning, this one is rare.

Agree, maybe he had done something with the system that made him win 12 times because a lot of people already tried there luck in lottery what only very few were lucky enough to win and it's not that they also win consecutive times like 12 times for example. For me, lottery is more on luck and it is like the winner in one in one million.
There are few people who have won the lottery at least once. And even fewer who won a large sum of money. Therefore, winning 12 times is already fantastic.
According to trading economics, the odds of claiming the jackpot in lottery are very low. 1 out of more than 150 million chances for someone to win the jackpot at lottery. This is a very uncertain scenario and I think despite getting involved in the contest one should try out some solid assets. Crypto is sweet thing. Investing money in crypto is something that has definite return if dealt well.
174  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The secret of gambling? on: August 21, 2019, 12:10:32 PM
Considering most games are -EV and gambling's extremely luck-based, there's really no secret at all to gambling and there's very little you can do to win more often. Just treat it as what it is- a game and something meant purely for entertainment, don't be irresponsible and spend more than you can afford to lose, and you'll be fine. People have lucky winning streaks all the time, some longer than others, but over longer periods of time it is extremely likely that you lose your money.
There are people who have mathematically proven the dis-involvement of luck in gambling and in fact have proved that luck does not exists in the first place. It is considered a random event which means that luck is a random happening. Gambling needs you to be super experienced. If you win by chance, that is not what is going to happen the next round.
175  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you ever won a huge amount on gambling? on: August 20, 2019, 08:07:21 PM
I don’t know what’s the “Huge Amount” we’re talking here because we all have different preferences on how we play and treat winnings

Like some of my friends that whenever we go to casino and start playing even if they won 20-50$ they are already contented and so happy.

While on the other hand for me that’s enough because I prefer bigger.

And my huge winning is when I hit a jackpot in a local gambling house Called Bingo and that’s more than $2000.
You have made big money man. Making $2000 is big deal. I have been in the sports gambling for long and I have not even managed to make more than $500 so far. I think it is something that also relates to your experience. If you are good ta gambling, you have good chance to make big money. In addition, gambling in the niche that you are good at increase your chances of making money.
176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Things That Comes Into Your Mind When Winning... on: August 20, 2019, 06:25:58 PM
Yep. You could say that. Grin And I'd like to keep it that way. I openly say here in the forum that I don't gamble that much and I don't gamble that big. I just don't like the feeling of losing 'cause who doesn't, right? So I prefer to think before I bet. Doesn't matter if I don't win that huge but at least I don't lose thag big also. Wink
In short, gamble funds that you can afford to lose Cheesy.

When I invest some of my funds in gambling, I only invest an amount that I can afford and will feel ok if I lose it. If I win on it then good but if I lose then good too because it is ok for me that I lost.

The first part is also same for me as i keep certain funds for gambling and in case i lose, i know its part of gambling. Now comes the more difficult part, what i do when i win ? Well, its make me play more and more until all the amount is lost. Wink But i feel happy at least that i have enjoyed the game and thats what most people miss while playing gambling, The FUN.
There's no fun on losing , be realistic mate.. the goal in gambling is about to win that's why everyone chasing it to the death and found nothing but a dead inside feeling when they realized 'it's impossible to always getting a win' fair to say that you should have a wise mentality after a winning by cash them out immediately without have to think!
You do not have to compare the unpredictable nature of gambling with what comes to your mind at wining. Many people try to increase their betting amount in the gambling when they win the game. This happens out of positive vibes to be honest. But not healthy at all because you never know what happens in the nest game. I have never done that so far.
177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I've lost on: August 15, 2019, 08:25:41 PM
In my opinion, I think there are usually a lot of gamblers or traders who are unable to control their greediness when they are making money from either gambling or trading, it is also not an easy task for human to control their greediness for more profit from gambling or trading as emotion would usually take over a person mind, I guess it is truly not an easy feat to become rich either from gambling or trading.
That is exactly right, we have to somehow understand why only few people succeeded as a gambler. Greed is one of the hardest emotion that a human could control aside from lust and pride. It is pretty common for even a professional gambler not to be able to control their greed in some occasions. They just somehow manage to make an epic comeback and can overcome those odds. While on the other hand, us which is not a professional one gets burried more
Greedness has been the more reason why people do lose in gambling and investments. It is a very bad spirit and very few can control it. I have been trading and gambling and two things that has made me to make loses are greed and impatience. If you can get control over these two you will succeed in both gambling and trading!
Greed could be take in two ways. One could be a motivation for you to make more and more money if you have great experience of doing so. This is important because your ability motivates you to make more and more. On the other hand, it is destructive because if you do not have what it takes to make money, you will lose the present capital as well.
178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling as a profession: there's people who live out of gambling? on: August 15, 2019, 07:37:28 PM
For the few years in have spent gambling on traditional mode before joining the online casinos I has never seen a good successful gambler that had live his or her life solely on gambling without doing any  other. Sincerely speaking it's very hard to win consecutively on a game without a  lost, even at that, not all days you as a gambler can win in the arena, so, mist of these gamblers we see are also into other stuff that generate income apart from gambling.
Yes.Those gamblers we have seen that are really making huge profits does not mean they rely on gambling alone for source of living.They are also making investments in crypto apart from gambling.As far as i know,there is no such professional gambler that will make a stable income from gambling.And the fact that winning is very rare in gambling so a wise man would not really depend his income alone in gambling.
Yes you have a point here. There are many ways in which the top gamblers make money. They never put in their money just in gambling because they know that the uncertainty could be fatal. In addition, the new guys who imitate these big players always lose money because they try to put in all their money in gambling and end up losing everything.
179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you ever won a huge amount on gambling? on: August 15, 2019, 05:06:48 PM
In my experiences, I already won but a little amount of BTC only betting on a boxing fight which is Pacquiao-Thurman fight.

Nice one.same as me I won from thurman and pacman pacquiao fight.ofourse I bet for my Idol Manny Pacquiao.

Boxing bets are really popular these days but this dont attract me because im not really into sports betting  .  i can bet more on regular casino games like roulets and blackjack and the biggest bets that i won was last month in which i won 0.10 btc   on a single session ever    .  usually my bets are lower than that  but it got me tempted to bet high because i recieve a bonus pay on my job so i decided to gamble it out .
Whenever there is a big boxing fight, I always bet on the fight to go over 8 or 9 rounds.

These hyped fights almost never end with a KO, if they do it's always late in the fight (10th or 12th round).

Quite easy sport to predict, even though Joshua's loss was a massive upset. 
Not really. I have never been able to make some good money in gambling. I love to bet my money in e sports gambling events and I like the thrill of it but I have never made huge stakes. On the average, my wins are more than my losses because I am pretty experienced in the stuff but it is still not possible to make big money in gambling due to the uncertain nature.
180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone here have some strategy to gain money, but with low profits daily? on: August 15, 2019, 04:41:51 PM
And guys, I know there's no 100% strategy, it's just curiosity

what would get even curious if you already know in the first place that it isn't possible?

If you wanted to gain money it might be a decent or low one the best possible thing to consider is obviously making yourself super extremely good on a skill based game. While in my cased, even if again this is not a 100% working and it is not on a daily basis. I personally think that you have a high win rate if you do sports betting. Usually the favorite will win the fight. Rather than trying to practice a strategy on a programmed game which is obviously not that fair

None of the techniques mentioned here can give you granted profit in gambling. The things like betting with low amount or playing the games with low horse will only increase your chances of winning but then again you can lose by applying all this.

Many peoples are looking for shortcuts or strategies in gambling but unfortunately there are none.

I think that in gambling, you are never able to make quick money because of the uncertainty of the game. If you are not able to make quick money, it means there is little prospects for wins as well. In addition, if you take out data and statistics and analyses it, you would know that the number of people who lose money in gambling is more than the number of people who win it. 
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