I actually have a hard time deciding between Firminho and Salah, both are superb that's apparent. I like Firminho's work rate, he plays with spirit and endeavour. Salah has the simple guile that deceives defenders again and again. Both are extremely unselfish, Firminho probably the more generous. Total team players, no petulance, such team spirit.

Kane's wonderful too and probably worth more as an individual to Spurs than either Salah or Firminho - but that's exactly how I like Livepool to be. Who else has got a Tremendous Three, yeah? Yeah okay Dynamic Duo since Mane's off form but his contributions are still important to terrorising defences.

Also, Kane may have 23 goals, but take away the penalties and Salah's got more outfield goals. Kane has power, Salah has a bit of finesse.

Agree on principle, but that's just the principle of the market. If you don't have makers, you don't have takers. If you don't have sellers, you don't have buyers. It's actually as simple as that. And yes, by virtue of choice, people can have "strong hands" and "weak hands" but I feel it's a disservice to use these labels so easily. We can't do without the "weak hands", we know this. And we won't have a market if we all held. Look at stronghand coin as a matter of joking reference and we have super thin orderbooks with nowhere in sight.

Ouf, but we came close to scoring a third on several occassions! Would have loved to get another 3-0 win (yeah, I know it's sickening to see a guy bet the same result over and over again I know) but I think a clean sheet at this stage is a much better offer to take. Looks like the under 2 goals bet would double the money but on this form, Liverpool's offence (and bad defence) means bookies are only offering 2.5 at minimum. Even 2.75 on my fav bookie.

Nice to hear the Saints still got a lot of voice, I wonder if Klopp didn't deliberately put on every ex-Southampton player he could on the bench! The home fans gave their best to VVD, but there was enough even for subs Lallana and Lovren.

@Pooya87 Thanks for being so quick to point out the error of OP's post! SegWit was a huge deal achieved last year, and Lightning Network is well underway. But having all these innovations will be pretty pointless if services don't adopt them (yes, they finally are and even the slowpokes like Coinbase will be rolling SW out soon).

Scalability is always going to be an issue, but it is a good issue to have. Think about it. If Bitcoin never got the kind of use we have today, the network would never get so congested. That it has an issue is a nice problem to have. I'd love for the network to grow even more, to the point that even LN will need to improve.

Perhaps the request to all Bitcoin holders would be to be a bit more aware of what's going on with Bitcoin and help foster the innovation. Advocate the services you use to quickly take up SW and LN, for example.

Hello! I was just talking about the Korean events. My own personal favourite crypto bookies haven't really picked up on it, but Nitrogensports does have a decent offering, the main events are all there: skiing, hockey, even curling (yeah, I know, but it's the only sports there I sort of really understand haha). For men's curling, I'm going to omit Canada (favourites to win) and go for a three-way even ML bet on Sweden @3.0, Switzerland @13.0 and Norway @15. If Sweden win, and they've got a good chance, I don't lose any money, but if the Swiss or Norwegians win, easy x10.

Canada's hockey looks good @5.3 too...

Glad it's working out for you, and glad I'm not the only one enjoying this! It's actually my first time in a betting pool with a community I don't know in real life, and have got to say it's actually a bit more fun than expected. That the prize pool is a lot bigger than when we first started is a bonus, but that's really just thanks to Bitcoin appreciation. Not much more games left, but I think everyone in Top 12 spots still have a very decent fighting chance at top 5 prizes - kudos especially to those who entered late but are still climbing the ranks.

Same objective as me, I've been hovering in 7th and 8th for a very long time. This week got 3 correct outcomes but not results so 30 points is a bummer. If Liverpool can salvage something for me, I'll be very happy with 70 points.


My kid's been begging me to watch that but after 5 minutes of yawning at curling... no offense, but I'm struggling to find any enjoyment with winter games. Granted, they're quite curious to watch but after the novelty wears off...

Trawling my sportsbooks too but I don't know enough about the athletes to bet properly!

Seems to be correct. The first transaction looks to be your withdrawal from Binance, where they sent you output of 0.16794589 to 15zqsdWVtupAdPqpD1yBAR18UnPdZo44Bz, which is your address, right? It's a batch transaction to a lot of others so I guess this is the one.

The second transaction is probably the one you sent with Electrum, you spent the entire input of 0.16794589 to 3C99h5pb3Ut2kGc6Mfx965Tpg6EEWBdwFz, including a fee of 0.00079613.

So... all looks in order. You spend all of the output received as a new input (so yeah, the amounts are the same).

I guess this really is the type of people that are getting wealthy from Bitcoin, isn't it? I'm not a veteran by any means but I'm already seeing some of my contacts who've only been "trading" in months boasting that they made the best decision to put all their savings into crypto and actually making fun of others for only earning single digit interest on government bonds, posting screenshots of their Luno accounts. It's as if they're begging to be hacked. Really makes for the fool and his money that are soon parted.

I don't mind sharing at all if people are really interested, but yeah, never about how much. Just how I earn and how I diversify. Only my partner knows about my wallets and access.

Checking your transaction on
https://blockchain.info/tx/b58f392c480da597b38c98b3c02ac7637c8cc4d6eb9cbffb5bb0846c65b15e75

And you get how it's supposed to look. The fee and outputs are taken from the total input(s). The output you received to address "3C99h5pb3Ut2kGc6Mfx965Tpg6EEWBdwFz" was just as you said... 0.16794589 - 0.00079613 = 0.16714976 exactly.

Which wallet are you using exactly?

Crap. This week I didn't bet on any straights, all over/unders and I didn't bet on a single outcome with a "zero" for either team, so already lost the spurs bet... and very unusually, all six games happening right now are still scoreless after half an hour. Got a 1-1 Burnley/Swansea draw, guess I wasn't the only one thinking this is the most exciting game of the lot (after Gunners/Spurs).

@toke: you're not saying Dyche is actually McAfee in disguise are you?! And you seem on the spot here for a low-scoring draw, I wouldn't count on any team's form at the moment, save for City!

I would definitely go for Localbitcoins (LBC) over any centralised exchange. For a newcomer, I think you should really experience your first buy from a peer-to-peer platform like LBC.

1. Price-wise, they're pretty decent, depending on location. Don't let the trades there fool you, they might seem expensive but what you buy is what you get (all the fees are already included in price), unlike the rates published at others like Coinbase, where you'll receive a smaller amount after fees, commissions, exchange rate. So for a newbie, I think it's best if you want 1 BTC, you see instantly the price you have to pay and you get exactly the amount you bought.

2. Speed. We've all heard about problems with exchanges. Delays in verification, poor customer support. With LBC, depending on your mode of payment, you get your Bitcoins quickly. All my trades in my home country are with online bank transfer, which can even be instant, so I conclude them in less than 5 minutes.

3. Safety. Choose only LBC's online trade so you're protected by system escrow. Meaning, when you confirm the buy trade, the BTC is locked in escrow pending your payment. It's one of the most secure ways to buy Bitcoin I know of.

Either way, whichever place you eventually choose, my advice is always to fully verify your account first before attempting to trade. You don't want issues AFTER you've bought.

Hopefully you've learnt your lesson; next time an opportunity comes along that looks good, do a little bit of your own due diligence. This forum would have put you off it had you checked here first. There's so much wrong with cloud mining setups, I've talked about them in other posts but this thread brings up another point: cloud mining contracts terminate after a period of no earnings, usually when difficulty is up, price is down, so you get 0 profit after "maintenance fees". But I wonder if they ever "revive" if the price suddenly climbs, or difficulty suddenly drops? They don't, of course!

This makes you see so easily that you should have just bought Bitcoin. Cloud mining simply doesn't work.

P.S. Just let your contract expire and take all you can and hold. Also, if you're getting daily payouts, you might want to take advantage of current network conditions to consolidate all the payments. Another bad side of cloud mining is the daily payouts... if you've been getting it since August you now have over 150 inputs fattening up your wallet.

Ouf, I thought my +0.75 bet on Fiorentina was about to get me back half my stake but Higuain had to spoil it 5 minutes from time! Juvie played well for sure, and I probably should stop betting against form! Speaking of form, Napoli's own streak can't be ignored. They don't fire 7 goals a game the way Juventus recently did but their trip to the top really reminds me of Leicester's bid two seasons ago across the ocean. Slim wins, same players week in, week out, and a lot of contributors to the goal tally. I'm predicting another 2-1 win, but just going for a straight bet. Pressure is on, this is a must win game.

P.S. Mertens to score first at 18/5 at BetVictor looks worth a small sidebet.

Dear brave HODLer,

We take a moment to address you, after news has reached our ears of your brave efforts shoring up the order trenches on the continent. We fight this battle on multiple fronts. Beyond the Bamboo Curtain, dissidents have taken below ground, while across the ocean, Congress holds out an olive branch, though we expect their machines of war are still being prepared.

The permabulls are not our concern now, they do not come to aid, nor do they flee in distress. The only certainty is that they will come, whether in weeks, or months, we cannot say. Our former brothers in BeeCrash will be twisted with guilt and surprise - this is what many asked for, yet many more did not suspect the war to whittle at their numbers as well.

Make no mistake, you will be holed up for much longer, even if you make ground in the coming days. This is not a great push for debellatio, for there is no enemy to vanquish. Bears never die, they just sale away. This is not the war to end all wars, the First Conflict of 2013 taught us that. This is a battle of attrition, with the next ones belonging to today's survivors.

We pray that you and yours make it to the 100EMA staging area, it will be littered with buyby traps set by bears looking to rout you.

But if you do not, it is not lost.

With you, to the bidder end.

Well... it depends. Were you the sender responsible for the original double spends from 1GT5ZVv4JAikNez31Sj1V2beCufWRgcbX8?

If it was really yours and you owned this address, then your 98++ BTC were successfully confirmed in this transaction:
https://bitaps.com/dc5935cded9e51d69f35042dae20b659553504ba2e5d5babe98853a19b5f4dcd

They're now mostly sitting at this address: 1C5ZnRqNpwajD2FkE61gFt48XxcUr7aAzs

As above, the txs you showed earlier were attempting to spend those funds.

I can barely make out what you're saying, but okay if Juventus continue to play the way they have been recently, then sure, they're deserving of their wins. But Napoli is no less deserving. Huge respect for the Turin team, but I'd love for the underdogs to come out on top. My picks for this week:

1. Juventus to get a shock draw away to Fiorentina. The odds for a straight in are strangely 1.86, so I wonder if the bookies don't feel so confident. Maybe they'll want to take fewer risks with Spurs coming up in 5 days? I'll go for a +0.75 bet on Fiorentina @2.09

2. Napoli to secure a 2-1 win against Lazio. I'll risk a straight bet on Napoli @ 1.66, I'll just double up on next game if they lose.

It sounds like a good point to me but not for storing multiple currencies, instead just having 1 crypto, say Bitcoin, that I could always use to send to someone else only willing to get paid in alts.

I could stick to using Jaxx or Coinomi or Exodus to store multiple crypto, but I'd still have to manage individual coins and private keys or worry about finding another "home" if the wallet stops supporting one of my coins (Like how Exodus dropped Dogecoin mid last year). Not to mention that I don't actually have the same confidence in those wallets - none of the ones I know are open source.

 If true interoperability exists... then I could presumably just only own Bitcoin and still access alt-only services. If that's how it works, great!

If you're still unsure about trusting an escrow agent (just because we do you don't have to), how about just using an open source escrow smart contract on Ethereum? If you don't mind following some basic technical instructions, localethereum.com is a good place to start. There's at least two other similar contracts out there but this one is pretty good with the instructions.

Side question: does anyone know of something similar for Bitcoin (without using multisig)?

Nothing you can do about this. It's not simply a double spend, but it looks like multiple spend attempts within seconds of each other, all trying to spend inputs which were already spent and confirmed in another transaction, it looks like a long chain of transactions. Bitcoin can only confirm transactions with confirmed inputs. Since these can never be confirmed, the transactions are considered invalid and will be eventually dropped from the network. Bitaps still has it, apparently.

Here are some of the other txs all trying to spend the same coins, all leading back to unconfirmed preceding txs or other, I didn't bother searching far behind:
https://bitaps.com/435fd8f36819403880de8c76468bb47ae0e309771075c14f09532908729a5033
https://bitaps.com/0392f8cc655fd13e0c2392574a989ed959da5de2ee31bf9ab4c701b14499081e
https://bitaps.com/edcf195a8b83348e6bac5eee6b21c84a418ea76642a1d09dfa2c74c9a92eb12f

Edit: OK I got curious: this is where the double spend originates from:
https://bitaps.com/1GT5ZVv4JAikNez31Sj1V2beCufWRgcbX8

I don't think it's far flung at all and you're right, this to me is a perfect example of forward-thinking... that actually you might realise seems to remain with the bulk of Bitcoin core developers.

Satoshi were a group of highly intelligent people - near flawless communicational language, extremely sound coding. From the beginning, they were already keen to safeguard their identities and part of the strategy would have to include deliberate inconsistencies in character, to complicate any potential profiling they were sure to attract. I think using an OS more common for programmers is part of that obfuscation, and would have helped narrow down any such attempt.

It could also be practicality. If you wanted adoption beyond the confines of cypherpunkery you want Bob and Alice's PCs to be able to run the early clients.