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1621  Other / Meta / Re: Time to abandon bitcointalk.org ? on: September 01, 2011, 10:32:27 AM

Just wanted to get some other opinions here. Seems like this forum has been overrun by a few users who post continuously in a need to astroturf. Its also turned into a ground where it is free for hate speech and spreading false rumors. Worse of all, it seems to have been effective and the false information is spreading to other websites. So, has this forum outlived its value, and is it time for the honest bitcoin community to take up new grounds?


just ignore some of the threads
Easier said than done my friend haha.
1622  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] SolidCoin - new and improved block chain. Secure from pools on: September 01, 2011, 10:25:06 AM
New article posted, we have had some queries from people wondering about SolidCoin dealing with Bitcoins collapse and the future, so we wrote an article detailing some things. There is also a bounty for promoting it, check it out at the site.

http://solidcoin.info/solidcoin-ready-for-bitcoin-collapse.php

Wow.  I didn't think it was possible, but you seem to be getting more sleazy by the day.

indeed. please do not remove this article; it exposes the true nature and motivation of Coinhunter :-)


Until 10 minutes ago, I loved this coin...

I'm gonna sell all of my 19,212 SolidCoins for Bitcoins.
This totaly sucks.

I don't coinhunter has a problem with Bitcoin technology as whole. I just think he has a problem with the direction the project is going, and for good reasons..
1623  Other / Meta / Re: DONATE SOME BTC TO BITCOINTALK.ORG on: September 01, 2011, 09:32:33 AM
I will support when they remove the limits for "donator status", and bring the VIP status down to a more reasonable price...
it doesn't matter the labeling it still we should support the forum with some
If my opinion doesn't matter, I guess the same can be applied to my money as well...
1624  Other / Off-topic / Re: Something Aweful Endorses Ron Paul/ Official Campaign Video on: September 01, 2011, 09:26:35 AM
Guys who run small business need to learn how to stay out of politics, lest they like to lose customers. You lost me, Bro. I'm quittin yer operation.

I'm not anti-abortion either, just sick of self righteous people using my money for their screwed up political views.

I understand but I'd rather you know exactly who you are dealing with. I'm a libertarian and pro-choice. It's better you find out now rather than later. I'm not running this service to get rich. That's why I don't charge transaction fees for trades. I'm running it so that people that want to deal only in cash can do so. If you value my silence more than my service, so be it. You aren't upsetting me. Thanks for the business anyways.
I am a Socialist Utopian. Hope I can get that completely out of the way as well so people aren't "shocked" by some of my opinions.
1625  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] SolidCoin - new and improved block chain. Secure from pools on: September 01, 2011, 08:10:09 AM
People, you really have to get over this mining and hoarding mania and think how to make the *coin attractive to merchants.
If you *coin can not be used to buy goods and services, your coin is worth less than a turd - no matter what the difficulty is or what clever protocols you use.
Faster you mine, faster your *coin will die if it has no real world use aka has no real value.

Let me paint you a simple picture. Lets say you mine for sand and no one in he world uses this sand. Is your sand worth something?
NO, it is not!
You can say, but I used a big and really expensive excavator for digging!
So what, it makes your sand no more useful, it adds no value (cost != value). 

Please, put your head together and understand the *coins weaknesses. Not only from nerdy miners point of view but from the consumer/business point of view. Consumers do not give a flying fuck about your hash rates and difficulties divided buy N and what not Smiley

What do merchants want/need (read CC, DC, PayPal, Dwolla etc service/product descriptions and remove all the nonsense + add your own brilliant ideas that your mom and pop like and understand):
1)...


What do consumers want/need (read CC, DC, PayPal, Dwolla etc service/product descriptions and remove all the nonsense + add your own brilliant ideas that your mom and pop like and understand):

1)...
 

Thats coming very soon... Smiley
1626  Other / Off-topic / Re: Something Aweful Endorses Ron Paul/ Official Campaign Video on: September 01, 2011, 07:58:37 AM
The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance. — Ron Paul


There is nothing wrong with this vision. There is nothing wrong with Ron Paul sharing this vision.
Not everyone in America has the same vision. It's not required either. It also does not mean their vision is any more important than yours. The end result will be a mishmash of all of our visions combined. That's all that matters. Instead of dissing Ron Paul, look at all the good he has done, and what he will do.
Ron Paul has proven himself to be pretty tolerant of other people, but that line seriously doesn't concern you?

No it doesn't, really. I know he's a Christian. I respect that. I also understand Ron wants the states to decide, when it comes to issues like religion and abortion. I'm more concerned about what will happen if we do not elect him.
So if you live in a state like Alabama, your children should be forced to pray to Jesus even though you are a atheist/Muslim/Buddhist/w.e ? If we decentralize the United States of America like Ron Paul wants to do, there would be so much chaos, it wouldn't even be funny. So much chaos that they would probably start asking for ID'S at state lines...

You might as well just remove federal government at that point and establish the states as separate countries.
And that's exactly what's going to end up happening if he gets elected! Better like where you live  Wink.

Gentlemen it is much easier to destroy than it is to help build. Pauls plan is to destroy everything that has been built over the last 200 years because he feels the system is "broken".

What are you doing here, FlipPro? What are you all about? Do tell us...why don't you....
I think Bitcoin and Libertarianism are not synonymous.

Anyone who thinks this is a fool.
1627  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bruce Wagner and the surrounding drama. on: September 01, 2011, 07:35:48 AM

I wanted anyone who was doing obvious trolling to be banned.


Yeah, only the people you were calling trolls were actually just telling the truth, which you were trying to get banned. But I understand you don't want it to be seen like that. Smiley
You do hopefully understand that on your own forum, the real truth would have probably never come out, because you wouldn't have given it a chance.
Why can't people display the truth in a more sincere manner? Why must the truth always be portrayed in a deamining and inflammatory way meant to intimidate the entire community? The SA trolling has been going on for MONTHS long before ANY of this Bruce stuff started to happen.

Should all the abuse that you guys have inflicted on this community be forgiven because you brought us a few "good" facts? I say "good" because these facts were not brought out to protect the community from people like Bruce, but instead were brought to light to cause damage and pain to anyone who is part of the Bitcoin movement.

You want proof? You guys have 481 pages of it.
1628  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bruce Wagner and the surrounding drama. on: September 01, 2011, 07:24:08 AM
I wanted anyone who was doing obvious trolling to be banned.

There were so many ways that this information could have been brought to light. Other than sending 200 goons to troll the hell out of the forum just so you could get us to listen?

You know what would have been just fucking fantastic? If the people who wanted to discredit Bruce kept themselves to their own space and kept their mouths shut and just read stuff here and collected as much proof as they could, put it up into a nice presentation, put in as much sources for independent verification later as possible, and posted it in one bundle.

Not only would we have found out the truth about Bruce but we'd have nothing but respect and gratitude for the people who exposed him, as opposed to having to be glad we found out but disgusted by what a giant idiot-fest they had to make the process be.
Don't pretend no one listens to them... They could have posted this on the front page their site, and it would have gone viral from there.

They violated forum rules to expose someone in a very vicious way,and in the process delegitimized their good posts. It seems like they had this info for months, and were just waiting for the perfect time to nail him.

Why not release this ages ago? Why wait now?
1629  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bruce Wagner and the surrounding drama. on: September 01, 2011, 07:16:14 AM

I haven't dug deep enough to look at the court filings, I am only going by what I read from his recent post explaining Bold funding. You guys seem to have all the answers so I will leave at that.

I am in no way defending the guys past statements, I am just pointing out the tone of civil discourse needs to change. There are alot of good people who have nothing to do with this fiasco, who have been getting attacked viciously on all different fronts and it's not fair.

The entire Bitcoin community should not have to pay because Bruce said/did something stupid 5 years ago.

And this coming from the guy who wanted all of us (so called) trolls to be banned an-masse from these forums, claiming that linking to shady shit on the internet was not part of free speech.
Ah well, still glad you saw the light! Smiley
I wanted anyone who was doing obvious trolling to be banned.

There were so many ways that this information could have been brought to light. Other than sending 200 goons to troll the hell out of the forum just so you could get us to listen?

EDIT:The write up at (buttcoin).org was a good start, if you guys would have built up on that, and brought it to a more serious venue, maybe this story would have gotten more traction from the serious people you folks were hoping to attract... But in typical SA fashion, you guys responded with the typical, "LETS BURN THIS FUCKER TO THE GROUND" attitude. That alone should have gotten EVERYONE banned regardless of how good the info was or not. I think that's what really turned people away from the story, even though many of the facts were actually good.
1630  Other / Meta / Re: SomethingAweful Idiots Invade forum on: September 01, 2011, 07:14:35 AM
I was referring to the pedo shit. If you had some reading comprehension you could have inferred that from the Pattaya reference .
That crap started on something awful within hours of the announcement. Now it has oozed over here.

 In regards to the mortgage crap ,I'm sure if Bruce hired LPS or signed his shit "Linda Green" he would have been just fine.
 Every Registry of Deed in the nation is overflowing with fraud. Are you pulling your money out of the bank even though they stole several trillion? No your not.
Enough with the false indignation about mortgage fraud. You really don't give a shit and neither does anyone else that is bitching.
Google my nick. I do give a shit about it and have been participating actively in taking down the enterprise for over 3 years. BEFORE THE BUBBLE BURST
WTF have you been doing other than looking for people to flame.



So Bruce gets to be a scammer, and better yet a scammer accepted by the community, just because oter people scam as well?
It's not the fact that the Bitcoin community disagrees with you, it's the way you guys have conducted yourselves in portraying your opinions, by inflicting damage on anyone who has an opposing view.

You need a machete to cut through the irony in this post...
Right because you guys think you are doing a great "service" for the greater good of humanity, when in reality you just continue to push along the depressive status quo. You guys are all here to "ground us" back to reality, because somehow we don't deserve to be happy within our own community?  There is absolutely no for excuse for abuse, and anyone who has been watching this has seen the abusive practices inflicted on the majority of the community. I am not defending anyone or singling out anyone, I am just looking at the entire situation as a whole, and have seen that you guys are nothing more than bunch of sour grapes who take no enjoyment out of life other than the damage that you cause others.

Oh what you folks wouldn't do for the "lulz"...

To be honest, if you think getting a little dose of reality every once in awhile is 'abuse' and not a useful thing for keeping yourself from chasing worthless pipe dreams, you are setting yourself up for a lot of failure and disapointment later in life.
Right because you folks have been so reasonable with your "little" doses of reality. LOL
1631  Other / Meta / Re: DONATE SOME BTC TO BITCOINTALK.ORG on: September 01, 2011, 07:10:24 AM
I will support when they remove the limits for "donator status", and bring the VIP status down to a more reasonable price...
1632  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] SolidCoin - new and improved block chain. Secure from pools on: September 01, 2011, 06:57:27 AM
SC to USD is LIVE! :-D
YAY ! Cheesy

EDIT:Can't sign up need private beta Sad.
1633  Other / Politics & Society / Re: So Obama really was from Kenya? on: September 01, 2011, 06:56:04 AM
I'm just asking because it says in the article his family came from there.  I thought it was political propaganda because David Icke found this guy from 17th century Virginia who was the ancestor of both Bush and Obama (ancestor was white as Obama is half white).  David Icke believes all US presidents have similar bloodline ancestry, illuminati/reptilian/etc.
You think Obama is a reptilian?
1634  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] SolidCoin - new and improved block chain. Secure from pools on: September 01, 2011, 06:53:21 AM
I think it can be expected Solidcoin will have some form of rally but who knows by how much.I think it is a better idea to actually buy Solidcoin NOW while it's very cheap considering it did have a high of .03-.04 before the price settled and profit quickly.I definitely have a few solidcoins I have been mining just waiting to see what the price potential could be.


@Double C,thanks for that.Interesting times ahead for miners that's for sure and these 5970's I got should be potentially be payed off in no time,lol.
Build something to make investors want to invest in Solidcoins. And your 5970's will be paid for.

I'm serious...
1635  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Restart your Ixcoin client on: September 01, 2011, 06:51:47 AM
Yes it needs to die. It gives a bad name to all the serious forks currently under development.

I dunno, I kind of like Ixcoin.  I was able to buy a shiny new 5970 from my first day of mining Pumping&Dumping IxC Smiley
Fixed  Grin
1636  Other / Off-topic / Re: Something Aweful Endorses Ron Paul/ Official Campaign Video on: September 01, 2011, 06:49:32 AM
The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance. — Ron Paul


There is nothing wrong with this vision. There is nothing wrong with Ron Paul sharing this vision.
Not everyone in America has the same vision. It's not required either. It also does not mean their vision is any more important than yours. The end result will be a mishmash of all of our visions combined. That's all that matters. Instead of dissing Ron Paul, look at all the good he has done, and what he will do.
Ron Paul has proven himself to be pretty tolerant of other people, but that line seriously doesn't concern you?

No it doesn't, really. I know he's a Christian. I respect that. I also understand Ron wants the states to decide, when it comes to issues like religion and abortion. I'm more concerned about what will happen if we do not elect him.
So if you live in a state like Alabama, your children should be forced to pray to Jesus even though you are a atheist/Muslim/Buddhist/w.e ? If we decentralize the United States of America like Ron Paul wants to do, there would be so much chaos, it wouldn't even be funny. So much chaos that they would probably start asking for ID'S at state lines...

You might as well just remove federal government at that point and establish the states as separate countries.
And that's exactly what's going to end up happening if he gets elected! Better like where you live  Wink.

Gentlemen it is much easier to destroy than it is to help build. Pauls plan is to destroy everything that has been built over the last 200 years because he feels the system is "broken".
1637  Other / Off-topic / Re: Something Aweful Endorses Ron Paul/ Official Campaign Video on: September 01, 2011, 06:41:17 AM
The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance. — Ron Paul


There is nothing wrong with this vision. There is nothing wrong with Ron Paul sharing this vision.
Not everyone in America has the same vision. It's not required either. It also does not mean their vision is any more important than yours. The end result will be a mishmash of all of our visions combined. That's all that matters. Instead of dissing Ron Paul, look at all the good he has done, and what he will do.
Ron Paul has proven himself to be pretty tolerant of other people, but that line seriously doesn't concern you?

No it doesn't, really. I know he's a Christian. I respect that. I also understand Ron wants the states to decide, when it comes to issues like religion and abortion. I'm more concerned about what will happen if we do not elect him.
So if you live in a state like Alabama, your children should be forced to pray to Jesus even though you are a atheist/Muslim/Buddhist/w.e ? If we decentralize the United States of America like Ron Paul wants to do, there would be so much chaos, it wouldn't even be funny. So much chaos that they would probably start asking for ID'S at state lines...
1638  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bruce Wagner and the surrounding drama. on: September 01, 2011, 06:37:32 AM
If you can't respect him for things he has done for the Bitcoin community, at-least respect him as a human being.

A. I don't respect human beings who give advice to pedophiles on how to find discount virgin hookers.

B. The assessment of the courts was that this was a scam from the ground-up, that he never intended to help anyone. Additionally, he could not prove he helped a single person.

C. If you look at the court filings, he misrepresented his business in a number of ways (e.g. claiming to have 72 offices when he had exactly one office)

These aren't "mistakes in the past", these are scams in the past and he hasn't owned up to them. He's offered self-serving excuses and lies, and ignored all of the difficult questions.
I haven't dug deep enough to look at the court filings, I am only going by what I read from his recent post explaining Bold funding. You guys seem to have all the answers so I will leave at that.

I am in no way defending the guys past statements, I am just pointing out the tone of civil discourse needs to change. There are alot of good people who have nothing to do with this fiasco, who have been getting attacked viciously on all different fronts and it's not fair.

The entire Bitcoin community should not have to pay because Bruce said/did something stupid 5 years ago.
1639  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] SolidCoin - new and improved block chain. Secure from pools on: September 01, 2011, 06:32:08 AM
P.S. Folks today is the day that Ruxum said they will start trading Solidcoin, it should be an exciting day whether you are fan or not :-D
Are they still testing? The site seems to be down.
1640  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bruce Wagner and the surrounding drama. on: September 01, 2011, 06:10:23 AM
There are actually many businesses that sprung up right around the same time he did that ended up the same way.

To much paper work(since foreclosures skyrocketed), not enough investors (they were terrified and rightfully so), and then complete financial destruction (the great recession) that put the icing on the cake.
 
It was the perfect storm, and Bruce thought he could handle it all, but apparently was not able to. Regardless this is all in the past, and he's obviously not "wanted" like so many trolls try to make him seem. The guy has obviously made mistakes in the past, and he has owned up to them very graciously.

If you can't respect him for things he has done for the Bitcoin community, at-least respect him as a human being. The facts are out, and I think everyone can come up with their own viable conclusions.

I hope things get better for everyone's sake.
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