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1621  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: March 05, 2017, 07:34:16 AM
as a human being we can adopt to our surroundings. It only took us a day or two to become totally into bitcoins. It only took us 2 hours to set up our bitcoin wallet. All of the things about fiat and bitcoin can easily change. Just like you said, bitcoin is still young. It's too young for us to judge its potential. We're lucky to be the first ones in here since we are going to be the one that'll make most profits.

People are becoming more and more techy. Your parents might not be able to understand bitcoins maybe because they don't even know how to access the Internet but that will not matter after a generation or two when people are all well-versed about the technology and the Internet.
I totally agree, as time goes on the whole world is going toward becoming more and more digital, I mean look at us now we are using virtual reality and using digital money to buy food on the internet, and I think that in the future bitcoin is going to become the main used currency because everything will become digital, and the paper money with disappear.

decentralize is a decentralized and centralize will still remain as centralize.
This is the point, I believe into that the paper money will not find its survival against bitcoin ecosystem. Definitely in future people will choose a decentralized system over the centralized one.
1622  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: March 05, 2017, 07:02:33 AM
Well it has never happened to me and I honestly do not think that it will ever happen because I have a job at the moment, that I am not planning to leave, though I would most probably start trading the bitcoins.
You have a job and you are going to leave it and you think you won't have a moment when you might need bitcoins/money desperately ?

This sentence does seems to like contradict itself. I have been earning very huge since a long time mate thanks to bitcoins and my job but there are times when i become so desperate for money like last week I was driving back to my house and someone just messaged me like 100 messages in like 2 mins not wrongly since I owe him ( he worked for me ) and that moment I felt like my god please give me access to my wallet or get me some bitcoins.
1623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: March 04, 2017, 04:05:35 PM
Yes I think it is the future of online gambling because its easy fast and also very reliable I think it will be accepted more and more.

That is true mate, it is the future of online gambling - it is indeed the most advisable and the most convenient way to deposit for your bankroll and not to mention its anonymity.
What makes me a fan of bitcoin gambling is the classic dice game because its very very easy and because it can be verified I am sure that I am not cheated though I never verified my bets but since all do so I am also safe.

With bet365 you play hi-low game and you may win/loss and always in dilemma if they cheated since its not provably fair and hence we have to TRUST the bookmaker which is not in the case with bitcoins gambling, everything can be verified.
1624  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If no one spends bitcoin what might happen? on: March 04, 2017, 07:21:17 AM
If no one spends Bitcoin then it will automatically become useless and loose its value completely. I hope we don't get there because that will be terrible and it will spell doom for Bitcoin.
I agree, many people say that if we stop spending bitcoin the price will eventually go up and they can make profit saving bitcoin for a really long time, but everyone does that the bitcoin will die, the demand is going to go up and so is the price and people will get greedy and wait a bit more until no one becomes interested in it.

In some sense, pausing entire bitcoin system will not give any benefits to bitcoin community as well as for system itself. So, not spending also might be giving same results in long run.
1625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Win using martingale system? on: March 03, 2017, 11:42:38 PM
i know most of us knew about martingale and we do use that in order to gain profits but we also aware that this same system is not safe in a long term period as we will be caught out of the blue and our winning streak will start to change up, do you have any settings of strategy to make it much worthy to use?

So for me, I believe in order to make a martingle system work you need to have a huge starting bankroll. It will not work if you have a small bankroll because once it hit a loss it will eventually loose all your winnings and your starting money.

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The explanation of martingale strategy is doubling your bet if you lose and if you win it is plus one of your bet.The strategy had the gambler double his bet after every loss, so that the first win would recover all previous losses.And is it the possibilities strategy to result a win.
Don’t try this, I know that this method used to work a long time ago but not anymore, many casinos have discovered this and they have implemented a system that counters it, I have tried multiple time and in multiple online casinos and each time you lose and double that they make you lose on purpose, if this was a thing all casinos would be losing and we all would be rich.

Sure, if we use martingale for a longer time, the chance to get long red streaks will be higher.
Yes, it is happening with both automated dicing and manual dicing. I just wonder how one gambling site is coded to detect whether we are playing for shorter time or longer time. Anyway martingale never worked for me too.
1626  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you think is a good time to start trading ? on: March 03, 2017, 11:04:21 PM
I started from 0.0003 then making a profit there add additional 0.03 comes from my own wallet then its the start i made some money that time Deur altcoin was introduced to me to buy as much as i can that i can afford to lose luckily i earn big profits there .But in sone times after that i spread my investments loss some amounts but i earned lessons .
I can actually say that if you are ready to risk and invest your money without a problem in your head for you to focus having no worries in real life ,in short completely ready all aspects with you.
i think a person can start gambling at any time and there is not such rules to start trading but still i will like to add that if you have good experience in trading then you can increase he profit percentage from trading.
I believe experience is the key thing to do such thing like trading and gambling but trading is much more suitable and easy for me instead of gambling.

I can invest a huge amount at trading but I never takes such risk in gambling. if you are a newbie or bitcoin is new for you than don’t just in willing to earn take such risk start with a small amount and spent some time there first.
1627  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it still worth it to trade? on: March 03, 2017, 09:59:01 PM
At this moment i think its not worth it because price of bitcoin now is growing maybe wait and hold it to get more profit. Bitcoin now is very valuable many now addicted to to earn bitcoin because they know is they trade it its very worth it.

It doesn't matter what the current price is when it comes to trading. All that matters is the market that is moving in a frequent manner as the volatility allows people to trade comfortably. If there is no volatility, then it's not worth it since the fees exchanges charge don't allow you to benefit from even the slightest price movements as was the case with Chinese exchanges at the time they didn't charge any fees. The only thing that matters for traders is volatility.
but considering current bitcoin price are so high i guess it's gonna be a problem for those people who have low amount capital only. as automatically it's make you to have a bigger capital to make it really worth. imagine when you buy 1 bitcoin with $500 only but now you have to buy it with $1200 to get $20 or $50 profit in the volatility. pretty contrast enough isn't it?
Yes, with the current status of the price it is really hard to make any profit with trading, as bitcoin prices are continuously rising, I guess the holders are making more money than traders who are looking for fluctuations for making  use swing trading techniques.

We cant still conclude on what would happen on march 11 theres no guarantee if the event would make the price of bitcoin decrease or be stable after that day.It does really depend and as bitcoin trader we should really watch out for that.
I am not having any secondary thoughts about continuation of rally of bitcoin prices. Because if this time ETF will not get approved, sooner or later some other people will bring it into reality for sure. So only fluctuations will happen around 11th march but bitcoin prices surely will keep increasing.
1628  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fixed income with BTC trading? on: March 03, 2017, 09:11:44 PM
Big swings in price are not needed to make money out of trading, it can help but it is not necessary if you are a day trader, you will look and get advantage of every opportunity the market offers to get profits.
Swinging prices are good to make more profits out of trading when market is trading within range bound. Until prices breaking either side of the market, we can make use of these swinging prices to make profits. But I'm not finding this swinging fluctions will happen all the time so that we could make some fixed income from it.
These happens every moment mate as you can see the preev prices and refresh the page every moment and you will see change in price every moment even though if it is a little bit.

What I mean to say is that you can open buy/sell trades at a lower/higher price respectively and make slight but regular profits, but yeah I sort of agree with you because sometimes the change in price happens bidirectionally (in beginning days, if you are not still clear, it would be better testing this strategy in papers. After that you can try in actual market.).
1629  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should governments allow people to pay their taxes in Bitcoin BTC? on: March 03, 2017, 03:03:15 PM
Paying taxes with bitcoin is not a big deal, because governments won't easily accept bitcoin as payment or premium. Only after strong analytical as well reliability testing only governments approve it. If governments accept, no need to think of the anonymity because governments already knew our identity. Upon our convenience we select bitcoin or Fiat that's it.
Not only that, but you forgot the fact that bitcoin is not controlled by the government that means that the price won’t change how they want it to be and the price is pretty unstable, so making people paying taxes with bitcoin which is the government’s way of making money is ting the whole economy of the country by a thin thread to the bitcoin’s future.

Taxes and bitcoins are completely two different systems. Still, providing people to give more options to pay taxes including bitcoin payment system would be a great idea imho.
1630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: March 03, 2017, 02:11:57 PM
In this year 2017,
Bitcoin will become more popular around the world.
No one can stop its success. Smiley

Exactly, it will a successful year for bitcoin to be well known around the world
And yes, no one can stop its success, because many people are getting in and being enthusiast in collecting bitcoin because of its continues price.
In any business risk is everything you have to take risk if you have to succeed and willing to do something bigger in life so, if we say about bitcoin the price is good know and it will increase further so, wait for the right time and until then  earn them as much as you can  and I think its price keeps on increasing and will gave you a cake at the end of this year.

This March will be a hard hit price hike.
Everybody is eyeing on bitcoin ETF. I am also very much sure it will get approved and then we are going to see bitcoin prices testing $2000 price levels. It is going to be just a start for 2017, and within this year we are going to see five digit price levels for bitcoins.
1631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do winning and losing gamblers have different personalities or habits? on: March 01, 2017, 12:14:44 PM
- Proper bankroll management
- Finding perfect time to exit on winning/lossing

are few things that should be considered in gambling if you like to secure some winning but without luck all above things doesn't make any sense. Different people may take winning or lossing differently like some may blame their luck some may blame themselves for being greedy but this may not affect on chance of winning.
But I do not see any big influences of these skill for profit making with gambling as beyond these only luck will decide our results.

When luck is the prime deciding factor, I believe there would be no big differences between winner and losers of gambling. Because we are relying on hidden factor for a good result and hence it will not impact on personalities nor habits. I feel time to time winner and losers will come and go.

When a winner turns a loser and loser turns winner, how we can expect different characteristics from them ?
1632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How should a good gambling site be? on: March 01, 2017, 11:37:48 AM
What are the features you should have in a good gambling site?
I look for player vs player gambling site with huge number of user base. When we are having more gamblers around then there would be more chances to make money in player vs player environment. I believe player vs player games will come obvious fair system hence it would be beneficial for gamblers and not just for gambling houses.

There are many gambling sites. Many of them serve as dice sites.
Because gamblers want instant result. That is the reason we do not have many player vs player games and gambling sites. But I believe when we are having more gamblers we can get relatively quick results.
1633  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 10 main mistakes of Bitcoin newbies on: March 01, 2017, 10:30:27 AM
yes its not new matter that newbie makes mistakes. and yes mistake is not a mistake when we learn from that instead mistakes are the lifting force that helps us to scale even higher. but well mistake in financial mater is something different as we loss our hard earned money.
It will not be a big thing when you are coming across a mistake for the first time but it will become me a very big issues when you are keep on repeating same mistake. When you are capable of learning out of your mistakes, you will never repeat the same mistake as well you will avoid similar kind of situations too.

mistake in financial mater is something different as we loss our hard earned money.
Most of the mistakes will be leading to financial losses and very rarely some mistakes end up in loss of time or energy. But when you are considering time is money then it is again a finaicial loss only.
1634  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could the Bitcoin be seen as a collectible item ? on: March 01, 2017, 08:08:39 AM
It is a collectible item,there are physical coins which hold a lot of value,and I speak in terms of price,too.Actually I think it's a great idea that we have physical coins because it's really nice when you can see the actual item rather than just a digital one on the Internet
Yes when bitcoin is recommended for future, it automatically becomes as a collectible thing. A collectible not necessarily in physical format, yes it can be in digital format too. Why are showing interest for some collectible, if we hold them we can have some prestigious status or in future we can sell it for huge prices.

I do see all the characteristics of collectibles fit for bitcoins. Who knows, owning one full bitcoin may become an impossible task in 2025 (like it would cost some millions). Saving bitcoins now itself as collectible would get us some good status too.
1635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat ? on: March 01, 2017, 07:30:36 AM
bitcoin gives us opportunity to earn money
This might be due to we are having same name for unit and for the system. Bitcoin is the only name for the unit we are transacting and the whole system we are into.

I agree there are a lot of earning opportunities coming only due to the introduction of bitcoin ecosystem and before bitcoins, we are not finding these many opportunities with fiats. Cloud mining/faucets/signature campaign are few example for it.

No fiats nor gold is is giving good ROI and bitcoin staying as the leader in the investment industry. This must be the biggest reason, people are preferring bitcoin over fiat. I guess this will continue for centuries because bitcoin prices are speculated to grow rapidly due to its potentials.
1636  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Scam indicators? on: February 28, 2017, 06:27:28 PM
You can kind of say that this forum is good for scam detecting but if you see different sites have different scam indicator.
Like for example take this forum itself I a person is exchanging his bitcoins for perfect money and he's a newbie. He refuses to use escrow and tells that he is trusted. So that if one indicator of getting scammed.
Moreover one reference resource will not capable of all the types of scamming attempts nor newly turned / newly launched scams are really hard to be referenced. Only by having self knowledge people will get chances to find out and avoid scams. So, there would be no general guidelines could be possible for finding out a scam.

But, being individual we can have some definitions to identify scams. Like many people mentioned here, anything out of normal in terms of money generation or in simple words just equivalent to fake promises must be subject to consider as scam.
1637  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: February 28, 2017, 05:45:16 PM
The method I am going to tell you might not be the best method possible but yeah if you have luck you can earn much profits.
First of all you should have some amount of money in your pocket. Then start buying crypto currencies like monero or ETH.
Bitcoin was also a small crypto currency . If you would have bought bitcoins few years ago like in 2009 or something,
You would have been a millionaire today. Similarly you can try and buy other crypto currencies. Even you can buy bitcoins if the prices fall.
You are trying to tell that the price of alt coins are under valued and if you keep on collecting it it might reach the moon at a later stage. The idea is good but i am not sure about the realistic future of any of these alts. Some can be successful because of the secure nature to conduct business in dark markets.
This idea will not work for all the altcoins. Actually many traders think the under valued coins will get their appreciations when bitcoin finds huge value like some penny stocks work. But I have not seen any of them bouncing back.

Starting trading with low capital this types of under value altcoins are not at all recommended. They are highly vulnerable to get delisted from the exchanges at any time. We can start trading with bitcoin comfortably with low capital itself but we need to be ready to accept low profits. That is the key here. If you aim for big profits then you might need big capital which is not recommended in the beginning days of trading.
1638  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: February 28, 2017, 04:18:53 PM
I have been told that don't accept payments via paypal, is that right?
Because when buyer will have his bitcoins then he can claim back money from paypal by saying that i haven't received desired product.

Well in that case, not all people they like bitcoin vice versa with Paypal, Perhaps maybe to other's Paypal was like a nightmare to them vice versa with bitcoin too. Only the difference was in terms of the features of each one Bitcoin is prevailing though I'm not saying Paypal is not good. They are are both helpful but in terms of services bitcoin was still prevailing. This is just my opinion only Smiley

I also have a poor past with paypal and hence I hate them, I sold someone my domains and he paid through paypal and after 1 day he just charged back and I lost as paypal asked for bills which I did not had. I since then never used them again and nor will use ever
i think it is different from person to persona and place to place as because paypal is not available everywhere so ins such area bitcoin is the best option as bitcoin is present everywhere and its transaction fee is also less than paypal.
I disagree that due to only popularity bitcoin is more suitable as compared to PayPal. In one way PayPal may be more secure and it follow some terms and conditions and has limited people to transfer and gamble money here and there, which may be good in some sense.

But on the other hand, bitcoin is not limiting you and the people who are earning good using bit coin have no issues while getting their money out. So, I prefer using bit coin instead of PayPal for people who don’t want any restrictions on their money and for people who wants some security can use PayPal.
1639  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: You only lose if... on: February 28, 2017, 03:44:01 PM
Sometimes you would really need to test it out in able to learn and lossing money is really a part of that.Mistakes do really happen but we should know something on this things so that next time we would know already what to do. Trading or investing on bitcoin is just like that since people do really have different perspectives of plan on their coins.
Well in my opinion you only lose if you do not have a big target. People invest a small percentage of their amount just to see if their gamble works or not and luckily at that time it works. They find that this is there chance to play big and invest everything and lose at the end.

Trading or gambling with your bit coins is not piece of cake. You should have a good mind set with patients to be profitable here.
1640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: February 28, 2017, 01:56:30 PM
For gambling there is no need of any specific logic because in gambling we need investment in order to gamble. There is no specific simple route for gambling, if there are easy ways for making money through gambling than it is not considered as gambling.
Not really because there is a easy way known as trading with the odds providers like when team A is favorite you bet on team B while when the opposite happens you back team A and hence giving no loss.

It is known as arbitrage betting and though it has little risks usually it gives you profit in long term and this is only possible with sports betting since that is one type of gambling that changes odds while the event goes on, in dice that cannot happen obviously.
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