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1621  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: October 06, 2016, 07:21:42 AM
If you have a family ,it will teach you how to save money for your future. But if youre single and dont have any plans for the future you will not know what is the meaning of saving if your totally have nothing.

We'll I think you better have to plan for your future.  A man without any plan for his future should be avoided. Or at least influence him on saving something for his  needs in the future.  If you have nothing, you have your body to use for work.  Apply and get hired.  Then  keep at least 10% of your money for savings.  Make it a habit everytime you got your payout. That way you will be able to save.

Yeah, do that. Save at least  10% of your income. Do not wait to have a family of your own before you discipline yourself to save. I don't think you can even save money if you have a family already. It will be 3  times harder because if you have babies already, they will eat a great chunk of your money. And there will be cases they get sick and you have to pull the money you saved. So save while youbare still young and single.
yeah true you will feel how expenditures were beginning to swell when you have a family let alone have children you will need a lot of income to cover the cost of your life. I think if you do not want the trouble occurred. before you get married you have to have a savings or deposit money. I always save 10% of my income to be saved

I like what you are doing sir, you should have a good life when you got married, actually in my experienced I was married at a very some age and my savings then was really small or close to none, so I started to have a family with kids and I was full of debt that time, it was just a good blessing that I have discovered bitcoin since it allows me to earn on a regular basis through different kind of methods, and what I like the best is trading since I am a gambler also and I love to take risk.
Sir I am not able  to save money because my wife suffering from cancer and have four children. I do not have normal income also but I got some information to save money on this website http://moneyconnexion.com/21-quick-simple-tips-to-save-money.htm so I want to ask u is that correct or not plzzz help me....

I am sorry sir but this site is not a charity, you should asked help to your government or from your relatives and besides you are still a newbie and we cannot trust you. In addition you are already off-topic.
1622  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: October 06, 2016, 07:18:31 AM
I am spending them on trading sites and  for mobile top ups that are the only places at a moment where I can spend them and I also believe in saving them for future so that I can make good money from it.
yes also use it in trading, but i cannot use bitcoin in our local market, because we do no have the facilities to use bitcoin in our local area, but still i am hopeful that a tie will come when we will also be able to use bitcoin .

Its just a matter of time and bitcoin is at developing stage and in next year or two we will find many places where we would be able to spend our coins directly for making purchases.

I think bitcoin already reached it's final development stage. It's up to community to evolve the other aspect of bitcoin.

Development is out of the context in terms of accepting it by the stores in any location, it's the role of community to make it happen and not on bitcoin itself.
No, not yet dude, we are still in the early phase and bitcoin has still so much room to grow. Bitcoin is always good and very useful to our life as we can use in different transactions online and at the same time it is also an investment.

If we will just hold our money we can make good profit in the future as we will see a better price than current.
1623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: October 06, 2016, 07:01:25 AM
75% The Golden State Warriors will be the 2016-17 NBA Champion. - Steve Harvey  Grin Grin
I like the fact hat people are rooting for the warriors to be the champion this season, thanks for confirming dude because I will add my bet on the NBA Futures and I will be fading the public in this situation, I hope the world is wrong this time.

Well since they are superteams this upcoming season, really expect a great percentage of people that expecting so much in this team.

But for me and since then, I can't really say who will be the champion in any season just because of the super teams. This is NBA.

The fact that it is NBA is what makes the game very predictable. Basically that the winner of this season could be any of the last season finalist. Thing is not going to change and for atleast three years head the result will always be the same. Those teams are just so OP that no other team come close to them
I do not agree with it, NBA is very unpredictable, last season the public are expecting the warriors to win in the NBA Finals for the repeat but they failed to do it, and I am sure many people have lose their bets that time including me. LOL Grin
1624  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: October 06, 2016, 06:30:18 AM
Waves price on the up... Does anyone think this has anything to do with the incent ICO? anyway... nice to see some proper movement. Polo... soon soon.

time to break 0.0036 resistance.

End of year we will be $1 per waves. I do hope there will be Lambos again available, after iconomi bought the whole production.

Yes... I'm thinking 1 dollar by end of the year as well... lets hope it sky rockets from there and never goes back below the 1 dollar mark.
Wow! that's really a good update, I hope this time it will be possible to see waves above the ICO price, still have high hopes for waves to see a success for this promising tokens, finally seems like a pretty good chance and hope that before the end of year we will see great results.
1625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your average bet per game? on: October 06, 2016, 06:03:20 AM
My estimated in my overall Gambling game, I lose for about 0.016836btc that is really not good. But I lose it in different day/Month so it is just fine for me.
oh wow thats a lot of money to be honest, in my opinion it is better not to gamble at all then
Maybe you are not really a gamble because you call 0.016836 a lot of money, that is not my range actually because I can bet more than that and even if I lose bigger than that amount I can live and let go of it, maybe we should stick to the golden rules which is to be what we can afford to lose only.
In your country 0.016836 BTC will give less amount, but in many countries, this is a big amount. So everyone has one range this is his range that's it. I lost 0.025 BTC in a single bet. And I bet 0.05 BTC in next game I won this bet. So the amount is based on the game, not range I think. And yes we have to bet what we can afford to lose I agree on this.

Im not really fanatic of "just gamble on the amount you afford you lose", then don't gamble then.

Look, Day 1 you loss 0.005btc. Yes that is small and you afford to lose it. You come back next day and loss 0.003btc, another small one. Then it repeats "always" and in "regular basis". Just a small amount losses and yes that is afford to lose.

But calculate those small amounts and see if that is afford to lose to consider.
And not only that, there are also other scenario that we will chase our bets so we will lose a bigger amount. But I think your illustration is a bit unfair though, you are only making an example on the loses, maybe try to consider winning also.
1626  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: October 06, 2016, 04:33:06 AM

That's why Im pointed that people must conduct a study and research first "on those things they aren't really sure what investment is that".

If they choose those investment that they really known well then they can proceed quickly. But for investments that they just saw to others that it gives profit more but they didn't know what is that then they have to consider the things I mentioned.

That is the most important thing to do prior to making any investments. Most of the times we are drived by our greedinesss instead of taking our time to make a reseach and take the right decision. This has happened to me many times, until then I have realized that I've been missing this key element towards making a successful investment.  Smiley

Actually that is must for every investors, to research first especially like what I said above.

But other people just putting themselves in some investment which they have lack of knowledge since they saw others getting profit there. So thinking they can just easily bag some profits if they did the same they will just go directly without any further preparations.
That's often the case, and had a lot of casualties, including me at the sight of people could benefit from investing without thinking I come to invest and boom, the company collapsed. investment sometimes friendly sometimes badly it happens all the time because the best strategy is to be patient and not rush into investing.
Usually it happens to cloud mining sites and HIYP sites, that is the trend here, although the benefits are really good since you are just receiving a profit of your investment in a regular basis but most of them do not last and just take our money way.

Trading is way better as we are in control.
1627  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: October 06, 2016, 04:01:56 AM
to me if the price of bitcoin is becoming stable then the popularity of bitcoin will increase and then more and more people will invest their money in bitcoin for the purpose of trading or just for transferring money from one place to another.
Same for me as well because i love bitcoin more if it attains a more stable price because it would allow us to manage of coins well and i do believe many peoples will like the same.Bitcoin popularity is not because of its volatile features but because of its other unique features which will stay the same even if bitcoin is more stable.
Yeah, could be true, smart people sees the unique features as the asset of bitcoin why it is popular now but majority of the people sees only the price, they are amaze that a certain coins is so valuable so they also take a ride hoping they can have success by investing.
1628  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: October 06, 2016, 03:59:06 AM
this bitcoin never can replace and take over fiat money real money
because bitcoin is nothing physic only digital curency
and no high regulate in all country
just because bitcoin digital currency instead of cash, but it does not mean bitcoin can not replace fiat? though it sounds impossible,
but I think if bitcoin is used by most people in the world, it is not possible fame of bitcoin could exceed fiat right ?



 As I think bitcoin will replace the fiat currency through out the world but it will take some decades. All countries will adopt one altcoin as their national currency. I don't who will bitcoin national currency holder. Mpst probably it will be USA or Japan only.
It will not take decades because it will not happen, there is no way only bitcoin will rule in the world, so what will happen for this non regulated coins? Maybe there will be a big chaos that is going to happen as whales might manipulate the price base on their favor and we do not want to be a victim of them.
1629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 06, 2016, 03:52:44 AM
Becoming a long term winner and not a long term loser is hard enough to be so good at one of the casino games in order to become wealthy is very difficult, not impossible, but very difficult, the only ones that I see can claim that are famous poker players.
yes but i think it nearly impossible, as no one can continuously won in gambling and for such a long time, i never seen  a single person through out my life,

Those people who are becoming rich in gambling are the ones who are able to get daily winnings with big amount. But as you have said, that is impossible.

So the chance of becoming rich in gambling are only in favor for the house edge and it is only by luck for the people who gambles for profit.

But there are some gamblers who are hitting one time jackpot millionaire.
I think nobody wins in a daily basis, if you are a gambler and you start small your chances to win is only when you hit a big jackpot. On the other hand, there are really gamblers that do invest their money in sports betting and they trust their capping capability to succeed and win in the long run.
1630  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: October 06, 2016, 03:48:09 AM
Apart from method at the beginning you need methodology as well, which are principles on with you are going to build method later. And yet I think that even with having all these things you mention there will remain a high probability risk of losing money doing trading.
Methods can be read in different books but your experience will matter much because not all method are written in the book, with your experience you can modify your method to fit in and to give you the best chance to make a profit in trading.
1631  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: October 06, 2016, 03:45:09 AM
No cause it is still to risky, bitcoin is not even recognized worldwide. And I think it depends on what job you are doing for bitcoin , If you are a staff at coinbase,blockchain then your payrate must be enough to support someone if you're just participating in some signature campaign or has a micro earnings, Just stick with your current job and trear bitcoin as a source extra income.

Me too it is hard if you are going to leave your good full time job and going to shift with bitcoins. You are going to waste your opportunity to your full time job and besides you can able to work with bitcoin anytime. If you are a miner you can just leave your mining rig and if you are in trading you can just monitor it for some time.
If you are not 100% sure of leaving your job then you should do both working in your day job and online. It is good to have two source of income as in times of trouble you have a savings you can get because you are already earning bigger than before.
1632  Other / Off-topic / Re: du you spend coins on real life. on: October 06, 2016, 03:35:52 AM
I do not spend any bitcoins in my real life now due to the fact that its not possible and that there are a lot of things that can go wrong right now.
There are at first no shops in my nearby area too..

That is the most common problem of each and every user that they don't find any place to spend their coins so in that case the options left for us are either convert it to fiat or simply save them for future.
The easy solution to that is do not spend it, we are even lucky we are having a hard time to spend our bitcoins so instead of spending it we will be saving it, and saving or investing really give us a good chance to make a profit in the future if bitcoin continues to succeed.
1633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: October 06, 2016, 03:33:07 AM
[...] but im planning to win it back.

You may be showing signs of gambling addiction. Please consider cutting your losses before it gets worse.

On the other hand, winning is always a possibility. Why not throw fuel on the fire, double or nothing means win or quit forever.
It is a fact that most people lose more times then that they win when it come to gambling that is just how it goes. The odds are in the casinos favor.
If you want to gamble then you need to accept that fact or just do not gamble if you do not like it.
Casinos games are design to be entertaining so we can easily forget our loses but there are still people who wants do both to enjoy and to make money and most of them do not succeed, maybe we should try a game that has no house edge in the matter to have a bigger chance of winning.
1634  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do you buy Bitcoins? on: October 06, 2016, 03:20:27 AM
I buy bitcoin because bitcoin are a great investment in my opinion. Investing into bitcoin can make great profit.
You need alot of patience for it though cause it needs time to grow and gain value like any other currency once did.

Yes that is thr problem by some people here. They dont have that patience to wait. Thank God they found a way to make it more fun. Trading and gambling for the meantime for investors to not feell the long waiting period.
lol becareful in gambling you can lost everything include your investment funds , i know you maybe have aware about it , trading are far better and safer rather than have to spend your spare time while waiting bitcoin grow in gambling.

don't make your effort in waiting bitcoin grow become useless. i do spend bitcoin in trading altcoin too.
You will only benefit in gambling if you will invest in the pot money of a certain gambling site but do not choose to be a player because you have no advantage and you will lose, for lazy people, I think investing in a gambling site is better for them than trading.
1635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 06, 2016, 03:13:33 AM
rich people will gamble for entertainment only i am sure they have other jobs which will give them more money
i am also like that if i am rich i will still gamble but just for fun and not to get big profits Wink
i will keep gamble not because i am laready rich and will have a fun with it.

but because of an addiction which can not get out of my life. annoying , but nothing more fun rather than making money throung playing a game. you have assumed rich means you will not gamble for money but fun? i guess it is wrong at all.
Addiction is the turning factor in gambling, when we are under addiction no matter how good we are in selecting the winning bet we will still lose in the long run as we are so much expose with gambling, it is hard to beat the house when you are playing regularly, and since you are addicted you are also greedy.
1636  Other / Off-topic / Re: What will you do if you own 21 BTC? on: October 06, 2016, 03:11:42 AM
That's just $12600. Enough to make a reasonable reserve, but not enough to make things easier.

Would just save them and keep doing the same
thats true, i think i would just save it all in order to make some profit if the price grows even more
That's a good amount already so you do not need to make any other investment if you are not sure with your decision and you do not have the ability to do it perfectly, holding that amount of bitcoins is already good for your future retirement, when bitcoin succeeds you enjoy the profit.
1637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: October 06, 2016, 03:08:11 AM

Are you sure of this? Look at my post carefully, it's on sport betting and not on those dice, slots or those game that luck based.

If in sports betting you still lose more than 5 times in a row with martingale type of betting then don't do gambling anymore as you are not fit to any gambling type. How unlucky person you are if that will happened.

Ya in sports we predict the outcome for the game.Is more like we analyse the outcome for future game from the past game but not like the dice and slot.There are many factor that can be impact the result.

Dice and  slot games are  total different   on to sports betting  and  card games which they somehow require some  analysis and  good  researching skills that would able to increase your chances of winning  but  we cant guarantee  to  win  complete some circumtances  may affect to the outcome of the game.
Dice and slots games are both money sucking games, it is better to choose sports betting as we have more chance to win in that game. No house edge and we can cap games before we hit the bet, I feel comfortable betting in sports because I am a sports lover as well.
1638  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: October 06, 2016, 03:05:14 AM
people who want to short time and ready to take any risk, he will choose gambling, i have friend who get profit 1bitcoin in 1roll but the risk is very high and i not recomending you to use this way.

for secure way to get rich we need action, act what we think then we will get problem and use the problem as our motivation to growing.
I think only 1 out of 100 peoples may become rich like this and it will also not last long and other will only become poor rather than rich by gambling so certainly i am not going to recommend gambling,if you wish to become rich.
I want to ask you? What do you only want to rely on your luck just to get rich? lol I think if you really want to be rich then do a sure thing by working and collecting money from the income you get from your job if you are consistent you may become rich

The only chance for us to be rich is only when we are lucky, we should rely on luck otherwise we will lose than we win. But do not focus on gambling because your chances of getting rich is very low, better invest in a more legitimate business or invest in bitcoin itself.
1639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 06, 2016, 02:08:55 AM
hi guys, i bought 1BTC today and i am wondering to gamble or to invest the 1btc?

if to gamble
 
best site to gamble with a really nice provably fair..

and if to invest.

best investment program wherein no scam.

thank you for your opinions guys

cheers
You what you think is your going to do follow what you think you can make profit don't follow those saying do this invest here , invest there you need to know first how it really works try to learn trading know everything basic to advance and you will know how you can make it

1btc is a fair amount for investment don't waste it in gambling. That 1btc may vanish very quickly without you noticing. Try to study trading also, there are a lot of ways to invest where you can earn rather than throw away your 1btc to gambling

if you are really confident with gambling then you can try your luck with gambling and make investment in the same time, so if you get loss i think you don't have to loss all of your money, but there is still left some amount with your investment.
I think it is not good to gamble our bitcoin but instead we will invest it in a gambling site, gamblers loses so gambling house become richer and richer, we should side with them so we will also make profit, just do not be greedy as the process is long.
1640  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: October 06, 2016, 01:42:51 AM
yes , for me it matters more , because i am a local bitcoin trader . i buy the btc at low and sell at high price . so it tends to a big change in my deal .
since if you want earn and directly use Bitcoin then there is nothing about price .
I think whatever you do on bitcoin, whether you do it for investment, trade and currency, the rate and the price of bitcoin will be very  crucial

I think price is the only factor that attracts people to use or invest in bitcoins and if bitcoin would fall down then I doubt that many would prefer to use it as an investment.

When it comes to people looking to make an investment, yes, the price is the only thing that matters for them. And that's all good since every sort of usage of Bitcoin is more than welcome. Regarding the price falling down, that is the time where people will see an opening to enter the market at relatively cheap prices. Falling prices are not a negative thing.

Falling price is not negative unless its falling to an certain extent, and if price falls extremely then we need to find the reason behind the downfall and there is a chance that it may not rise again in future.
What I witness is that the price falls most of the time due to FUD and there is no serious reason why it falls, so in the end it will still come back and the top spot so if you see that kind of situation, you should be smart enough to  buy cheap bitcoins and earn from short term investment.
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