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16241  Other / Meta / Re: How to use the Watch Board feature? on: October 12, 2015, 01:07:28 PM
It's proper buggered in my opinion. I gave up using it.
16242  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: non programming jobs that pay in btc? on: October 12, 2015, 02:51:46 AM
Why not post what your skills are and see whether anyone bites? There might be plenty of unspoken need out there.
16243  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where will the price of BTC be at the end of 2015? on: October 12, 2015, 02:47:42 AM
I don't think it's budging from the range it's been in all year. History is being made. Dead boring history.
16244  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Arms Race Anxiety... on: October 12, 2015, 02:40:47 AM
I looked briefly into mining well over a couple of years ago and ran away screaming. GPU era and before yes, any time after that, hell no. I wonder what the landscape will look like in another five years.
16245  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: October 12, 2015, 02:34:13 AM

Really i don't see any advantage buying physical bitcoin designs that are made by some persons.


The 100 trillion dollar Zimbabwean note was worth around 25c when it was an actual currency. Now it's obsolete they go for $10-20 all day long on Ebay. Their government should get in on the act.

Even if BTC dies then it will never be forgotten and a Casascius coin in particular will always be of interest to collectors. They ain't making any more and it is THE image for Bitcoin in countless media articles. All the other ones ain't worth shit in the long run IMO but those are cool little hedges.
16246  Economy / Speculation / Re: I have halted all purchases paying with Bitcoin on: October 12, 2015, 02:27:32 AM
Hold it till the 2020 block reward halving. You will have a pretty good idea about where Bitcoin is headed at that point.
I will be holding till that point too. No matter what the price is, I plan to liquidate only half of my stock.

Yup. I think that's the most sensible strategy. Lots of noise, issues and wrinkles to iron in the short term. If there isn't a clear path upwards by then I'm not sure there'll ever be one.
16247  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: October 11, 2015, 11:14:27 PM


Even if the price doubles(which for sure maybe will not happen)
There is no such a good profit just for 1BTC if you think for long-term.
At least 100BTC will make a good change(profit) in the next few years.

There ain't too many folks with $25,000 or so to park on an extreme bet for the future. Overall though you're right. One coin is unlikely to be life changing before you're back in nappies.
16248  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Where do exchange sites buy BTC to sell to their users? on: October 11, 2015, 10:48:58 PM
I assume the broker type places often sell coins as fast as they're buying them so there's little need to access supplies elsewhere.
16249  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 11, 2015, 04:58:58 PM

Not very active is it? Pretty embarrassing for the Winkle's really, let's hope it picks up this coming week.

With that fat 0.25% fee they should make back what they laid out somewhere around the year 6712. These are long game players.
16250  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 11, 2015, 04:12:23 PM

Btw, how was the SZ to drive?

Hands down the best handling car I've ever driven, apart from a Lancia Integrale that had been destroyed and rebuilt with new panels from the floor upwards, but really not very quick at all. I had a couple but they were both very low mileage so perhaps the engines would've loosened up. These days I get the impression that parts are very hard to come by so it would be a bitch to run one.

Quick cars are out of my system now. They're like really shit relationships. A few moments of joy mixed in with long stretches of utter horror when they go wrong.
16251  Economy / Economics / Re: why online shopping,recharge or anything else dont accept rupay debit card. on: October 11, 2015, 04:08:10 PM
It's an India only thing. Their attempt to compete with Mastercard and Visa. No merchant beyond India will have any interest in taking it but perhaps they'll cut a deal with another processor.
16252  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 11, 2015, 04:02:06 PM

Surely if you drive around in them you have to pay huge insurance bills each year. Don't those bills add up to a super car's value after 30 years? An 18 year old would be charged as much as a lambo cost to insure it. A thirty year old would pay much less, but still a considerable sum each year, and that's only if he'd never made a claim.

You'd be surprised. Especially when you're into your 30s and beyond. A piece of shit 20 year old Citroen only cost $150 less than a V12 Aston Martin worth 100 times more when I was checking out insurance quotes. No idea why.

If you'd bought one of the current hot sellers in the last 2-3 years you'd no doubt make bank. There've been some insane price rises. If you'd cherished your whatever from new it probably absorbed its purchase price and more in keeping it rolling over the years.

I remember the car bubble of the late 80s. Investment banks were buying cars to stick in vaults believing they were on to a dead cert. Then it turned to dust in a truly stunning fashion. I bought an Alfa SZ around 2000 for about $18,000. In 1989-90 they were being advertised for $180,000 and more. Not such a hot investment after all.

16253  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Discussions about digital currencies in some countries. What future for bitcoin? on: October 11, 2015, 03:51:29 PM
Rephrase this to 'digital tokens' because that's what they'll be.

Bitcoin is fundamentally different from any currency any country or bank (not that a retail bank has created a standalone currency, er, EVER, not that that stops people on here spouting off about such possibilities) will ever create.

There will never, ever, ever be anything like Bitcoin that comes from the regular suspects. It goes against every single thing that turns them on. A lot of folks here really don't seem capable of comprehending this.
16254  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 11, 2015, 03:44:01 PM

Few Testarossas stayed with one owner for 30 years. Those who bought it new got what they wanted. Those who bought them dirt cheap 10-15 years ago got a taste of the dreams of their youth. And those who bought them as an investment at half the price they are now, got what they wanted. I've yet to meet an unhappy Testarossa owner.


I've owned a few borderline supercars but would never go overboard into a proper one. They invoke some violent reactions from people. And lower tier cars as an 'investment' rather than the blue chip stuff are a mirage if you own them for long periods. They'll break even maybe but all that maintenance and taxation adds up rapidly.

It's a different matter if you've bought within the last few years maybe but they're only worth what others'll pay. Not the most liquid thing you can ever own. I think a shit ton of people will be burned with the more modest stuff. Old style BMW M3 Evo Sport's go for up to $150,000. I nearly bought one at $10,000 but it was a dog. That doesn't smell sustainable to me.
16255  Economy / Economics / Re: The $1 Million Dollar Bitcoin on: October 11, 2015, 03:37:39 PM
I don't think this will happen and I don't see a reason why it would reach to that level. If demand is high but availability is low (very low or maybe scarce) trading price may increase but not to that level

Yes, there's always that market cap thing out there waiting to distort things. I think it's a truly dismal metric. A few mindless idiots who bought dust on Ebay have probably already raised the market cap to trillions if their transactions had been recorded.
16256  Economy / Economics / Re: The $1 Million Dollar Bitcoin on: October 11, 2015, 03:24:57 PM

i swear in 2010 they were saying the same thing about bitcoin never reaching 1k per coin

but we know how it ended...

But that only required a few hundred thousand people to get sufficiently excited. 1 mil would require several hundred million or more. Zero to a handful of billions can happen repeatedly. Zero to trillions is a once in multiple generations type of thing. I won't be moaning if it occurs but I'm not holding my breath.
16257  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitstamp the new OKCOIN 2.0 volume manipulators. Fake Wall observer. on: October 11, 2015, 03:20:51 PM
I was under the impression they've offered zero fees to certain traders. That being the case there's nothing to stop said traders beefing up volume in an attempt to attract some fresh meat to prey upon.
16258  Economy / Economics / Re: The $1 Million Dollar Bitcoin on: October 11, 2015, 12:49:17 PM
If it stayed alive long enough and the dollar still existed then it's borderline inevitable that there'll be a million dollar coin one day. At today's buying power? It would've had to have conquered the world.
16259  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: create a "buy now button" to which byers will pay via btc? on: October 11, 2015, 02:48:58 AM
I've used Payivy and it works very well. It might depend on the type of thing you're selling. That's more of a digital goods thing as far as I could tell.
16260  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 10, 2015, 10:31:24 PM
How you put here picures Huh Huh 

You have to wait for your membership to upgrade. Picture posting is restricted for fresh folks.
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