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16321  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: May 16, 2017, 09:21:23 PM
You can get steady income by lending your bitcoins on Poloniex where they will pay you interest on monthly basis and that will also become an passive income for you as you will keep on getting your profits into your wallet without doing anything as I am earning good amount from there on monthly basis.
This is good but I don't consider this as steady income but I like this way if you are going to add some other way of earning. And if ever you are going to lend big amount of bitcoin, I find it risky though polo is a trusted one. I will prefer to hold my bitcoins and keep on working with altcoins and trade it.

I have invested my bitcoins in that site since long time and I am getting regular returns on my investment and to be honest I don't feel any risk of loosing money as Poloniex is a trusted site and there is a least possibility that will scam me.

It is still vulnerable with everything but I know they are trusted and it's good to see that they are running well and you are receiving your returns on a regular basis. And thanks for sharing your experience with them. May I know on how much did you lend them and how much you are getting monthly? Do you plan to add some more btc to them?
16322  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Future on: May 16, 2017, 09:13:45 PM
Bitcoin has not even begun to enter the mainstream. If it is going up like this now, its going to be off the charts when it finally does. Go long.

It is already in the mainstream but there are countries or big people that are stopping it because they know on what bitcoin can do to their businesses. The future of bitcoin is great and truly has the potential to make the people have a better way of living but there are some adjustments that the core needs to improve and upgrade.
16323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins price can be manipulate? on: May 16, 2017, 09:02:12 PM
Yes, I agree with you, if the big players are able to play the price of some altcoin, then this possibility is already planned, then it is unlikely the coin will be dumped, and this is not interesting anymore.
For sure they can do it and I just don't have an idea on what specific alt coin they are going to play. But I know there is a market for those whales and possibility that they will also conquer the alt coin market. We saw on how some alt coins are moving faster and that's an indicator that the price of an alt coin can pump because of them.

I think they even have a group here and an announcement thread in the forum too.  Though I have no idea what are they capable of.  I think this group try to pump and dump coins to get a huge profit from unsuspecting traders.  With this all coins that are trading can be subject to manipulationg a.k.a pump and dump activities.

I don't have an idea if they are going to show or there is an exposed thread about it. For sure they have chat group, maybe in skype or in telegram or somewhere else where everyone of their members can get a proper signal on when they are going to manipulate or do volumes of buy for a certain alt coin and as well as sell.
16324  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Invest 2 btc on: May 16, 2017, 08:54:30 PM
Brother i just hate investment because its too risky. I don't like it I advise all that do trading and mining.trading is the most effective of them and it's a good source to earn.the investment sites anytime can scam for this reason investment is too risky hen other.now a day 2 btc=3,482 dollar its very big amount for us.

All types of investments are risky, there is a risk to take and sometimes it's worth but there are times that it is not. And with OP's investment offered, it's an obvious scam so don't get into it or else you will regret it. With your suggestion, for me it's better if you will have take time to do trading because it's the most effective way of earning and investment for me.
16325  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Where to invest my Bitcoins? on: May 16, 2017, 08:34:47 PM
Investing with low risk attached, and high profit expectation, such sites are are too scarce to see if there is any.
Invest with any possible amount that will not distable you, and expect anything , but the good expectation will be of more help.
There's none, don't hope for an investment to offer low risk but with high return because of the expectations that you are looking for. Just invest to the usual way of investment like the popular one which is trading and bankroll casino.
Low risk involved and a high profit expectation not too many of such projects exist but good suggestion would be creditbit an Ethereum ERC 20  Token
that rewards owners with an interest for locking their creditbits for a certain period of time and earn an interest in form of bond yields or
votes.

There's none trust me. Where can you find that an investor will have an advantage to this type of investment where he will not worry about the possible profit that he can get while the risk is very low, there's no such investment like that. Well creditbit is another promising project, you can invest your bitcoins there for good.
16326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins price can be manipulate? on: May 16, 2017, 08:25:34 PM
Yes, I agree with you, if the big players are able to play the price of some altcoin, then this possibility is already planned, then it is unlikely the coin will be dumped, and this is not interesting anymore.
For sure they can do it and I just don't have an idea on what specific alt coin they are going to play. But I know there is a market for those whales and possibility that they will also conquer the alt coin market. We saw on how some alt coins are moving faster and that's an indicator that the price of an alt coin can pump because of them.
16327  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: May 16, 2017, 08:17:03 PM
I estimate BTC to reach close to $2000 by the end of 2017. For the long term, it could very well go beyond $10K.


It is what everyone is thinking of with bitcoins price so I think it's very possible that we are going to reach this amount of $2k before the end of the year. And with your given amount of $10k for sure we are going to that spot very soon, we just need to wait for the right time to see this price of bitcoin hit very soon.
16328  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: RANSOMWARE impact on: May 16, 2017, 02:16:23 PM
I don't think it will be impossible to track who did this ransomware. I know one day there would be some hunters that can track him down. Well this is just another crime but the hacker is asking to ransom for bitcoin and this is going to give bitcoin another bad reputation. Shame on this guy, I hope that this will be resolved soon.
16329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Zcash worth to invest in it? on: May 16, 2017, 07:22:38 AM
Zcash is truly worth it to invest. And my friends are mining this alt coin using nicehash. I'm just still if I'm going to follow them with this investment by buying my own mining and will start to mine this. But if not I'll go with the normal way of trading and I'm going to buy bitcoin and will just sell it at higher price.
16330  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Where to invest my Bitcoins? on: May 16, 2017, 06:59:10 AM
Investing with low risk attached, and high profit expectation, such sites are are too scarce to see if there is any.
Invest with any possible amount that will not distable you, and expect anything , but the good expectation will be of more help.
There's none, don't hope for an investment to offer low risk but with high return because of the expectations that you are looking for. Just invest to the usual way of investment like the popular one which is trading and bankroll casino.
16331  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Do you have an idea to invest your bitcoin in offline business? on: May 16, 2017, 04:54:06 AM
Yes i have an idea someone who want to business with me they give me bitcoin and I sell those bitcoin and invest money on my shop than i select a profit amount like 3 percent I give them back after 1 month.after 1 month if they want to invest again I take their money and added this money again on my shop...its just an example idea to invest your bitcoin in offline business.
This is a good idea! It has the similarity with investing into casino bankroll and lending of bitcoins. You are giving them competitive interest for one month if ever your shop is earning but I guess that was quite high enough if thay is for real. But as long as your shop has a lot of customers that would be fine.
16332  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: May 16, 2017, 03:49:23 AM
You can get steady income by lending your bitcoins on Poloniex where they will pay you interest on monthly basis and that will also become an passive income for you as you will keep on getting your profits into your wallet without doing anything as I am earning good amount from there on monthly basis.
This is good but I don't consider this as steady income but I like this way if you are going to add some other way of earning. And if ever you are going to lend big amount of bitcoin, I find it risky though polo is a trusted one. I will prefer to hold my bitcoins and keep on working with altcoins and trade it.
16333  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 16, 2017, 02:13:12 AM
the growth of bitcoin price on the rise. and it will continue to grow. I am so sure price bitcoin will go higher

Yes, bitcoin will constantly grow, but small drops are possible, especially in summer the price goes down.
Yes that is the chart of bitcoin, it's wave is going to keep on pumping. And if you are able to get in the trend of bitcoins pump for sure you are going to get a decent return as you are expecting. If you'll do both things trading and investing will give you better results for the next years to come so just both do it.
16334  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: May 16, 2017, 01:11:59 AM
Just by simply telling them that they can have good profit on it will be an effective thing. It's like an additional payment method to their whole business, they won't sacrifice the cash method or fiat system for it. Because bitcoin will be added as an option to their service which will good for other customers that are into bitcoin.

Yeah paying with fiat and credit/debit card will always be there as majority of users will prefer to use the same method and the fact is they may not be aware about bitcoins but if merchants starts accepting bitcoins as a mode of payment then it will really help people who are using bitcoins.
Exactly that is what I'm pointing out, because the awareness about bitcoin is spreading that is why we only need to give them clear details on what is bitcoin and almost everything we know. Let's disclose too some of the problems about bitcoin but I guess it will not be a big problem.
16335  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: May 16, 2017, 12:15:39 AM
I had no doubt that holding bitcoin in a long term was a good way of savings profit for the future.  This is very safe and secured if we do this things. And this is very proven and tested to other traders before that til now they are still doing it.

I believe that holding bitcoin for better is the best way to invest. And there are people that did this before and it's been a very effective to invest their money. As they believe that bitcoin is increasing regarding it's price yearly and by just simply being a patient holder you can have a good profit after a long wait.

That's how it should be done. However, the reality turns out that the majority of the people don't have this patience. They are looking for cold hard gains, as in seeing their coin count go up, which is exactly why these people do altcoin trading, invest in cloud mining, hyip's, ICO's, etc. Funny thing is that their actions mostly have an opposite effect -- instead of seeing their coin count go up, it goes down. That's the price they pay for their greed.
Well that's the reality that all of us wants to get instant profit that lead most of us into selling earlier. And with their wrong move thats for sure that it will lead them into frustration if they will do the example you gave, it will result to a bad one. That's why most of us too learn from that mistake and pull us through by just simply holding.
16336  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: May 15, 2017, 09:41:06 PM
Both trading and investing are good because in trading you can earn Bitcoin depends on the value of you altcoins you want to trade. However in investing you can earn income depends on the the amount or altcoins that you want to invest

I'll go for both too because when it comes to profitability these two are good. And it will only depends on the investor or trader, if you are a patient person and you don't want to have efforts just invest somewhere but only with the legit ones but if you are a good trader and also has the capacity to invest more, just choose both.
16337  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if, we advertise bitcoin on T.V.? on: May 15, 2017, 09:27:56 PM
The transaction fee is still the same, people are calling it as high fee because what can you expect with the price increase? I know in the future everything will be fixed and people will not complain about it. That's why if bitcoin will ever be advertised it will be effective just like what is being market online.

Nope, the fee is bloated. In the past years, you can still send tx with fees below 100 sats per byte and confirm in few minutes. But now, you are lucky if your 200 sat per byte tx fee gets confirmed within a few hours. You cannot compare fees in dollar, because fees are not computed on fiat value but the size of the tx.

Yes the adjustment with the fee is there but I really don't know why people are complaining about the fee because I still consider it as cheap one with the usual method of sending money with the use of any remittance method. I just hope that there will be no negative result if bitcoin will be advertised by someone on a national television.
16338  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: May 15, 2017, 09:18:13 PM
I believe that it will hit 5.000$ in a really short period of time before going down to 1.800-2.000. To prevent the network from stopping I think that some governments/banks might start building huge mining farms to keep the network alive, much against the idea of being decentralized though

I've read an article about the prediction of breadwallet. They are even saying that we are going to have a bubble and that can lead up to $10,000 but it will popped immediately and if I'm not mistaken they are saying that it is possible to happen for this year. I hope this is going to happen very soon so that I can sell some of my btc.
16339  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: May 15, 2017, 09:06:31 PM
The best thing to do is just gamble with small amounts of money that you don't mind losing. You're probably going to lose so just view it as a source of entertainment.

I will agree on this, this is a smart move. And don't also hope that you are going to win good amount at first by just simply betting small amounts. But in the end if you are able to win some good money. Learn to stop and take a rest for awhile.
That control within is really important, if you cannot control yourself you are not considered as a smart gambler because along the way you will experience some kind of cold losing streak and you have to manage it in order to minimize your loses, when you lost control you will go all the way and most of the time it will lead to bigger loses which is what we do not want to happen in our journey in gambling.

Yes control is really important and it's like this, when you started to win some good amount, manage to stop or get 10%-50% of that winning and keep on gambling. Because if you will not going to do that, your winnings will be wasted and it's going to give you regret when you keep on gambling with the whole amount of winning.
When a person goes into excitement I play gambling very difficult to control myself and will be established at the right time. It is impossible because of this there is a very strong negative word about gambling and all this because of the fact that players can not control themselves.

It is very possible for a gambler that really knows what he is doing. But if you are thinking negative thoughts in the first place then that's a sure thing that you will never know ho to control. It's one of the most important matter in gambling and you should know on how you are going to to do it for real.
16340  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: May 15, 2017, 08:49:20 PM
Buy and hold for a long time is the best source of bitcoin now. For those that buy bitcoin since November last year when bitcoin price was around $600 for just five months has made over 150% return if they sold their bitcoin today.

But buying and holding takes time. You need to wait for a longer time and its only good for one time blow profit. Well it is still a good source and it can be one way of the best source of income. And you should do it on daily basis to get daily profit.

Holding them for a long term is good only if you have higher amount of bitcoins and if not better to invest them in trading where you can grow them on regular interval and at the same time it will also give you some profits but if you don't want to take any risk of investing then holding them is the right choice.

Whether you've got low or high as long as you can hold to longer time then that can be profitable to you. But I'm just worried about it, you can make it as a source but you can't make it your stable source because holding is good to be considered as your other investments which is going to be hopeful for good profit.

Yes if you want to generate regular income then you need to invest them in trading as holding will never give you regular income and you will be making out of it only when you sell them so if you want to make regular profits then better to use them in trading instead of holding it.

Yes that's what I'm worried about holding, you can do it for you to have regular income. But it will always be a good source of income and we all know about it. Maybe by becoming a day trader is going to work out for you and if that is going to give you good income then you may say that it is the best source for you.

Trading will give you good profits at regular time and you cannot expect the same result from holding as to make profits from holding you need to wait for the price to go higher and no one knows which is the best and highest price to sell bitcoins go generate best profits.

It may give you good profit but not all the time. I know there are traders that are coming through to this point even how good they are in trading but still they can't avoid the fact that market is changing from time to time. It's going to depend on how you are patient and you have the gut feel to sell, well maybe there are traders that are earning good daily.
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