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1641  Economy / Marketplace / Re: New Site! -> BitMarket Square on: February 25, 2011, 09:14:04 PM
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1. NO ILLEGAL GOODS, PRODUCTS, SERVICES, ETC OF ANY KIND!. If something is illegal in any place on planet Earth in anyway it may not be sold, bought, traded, offered, or advertised on this site. We have thought long and hard about this one, and believe it is in the best interest of the Bitcoin Economy to refrain from Illegal activity.

Your wording here is going to unnecessarily preclude a large number of goods and services, and possibly put a lot of users off (at least me) from using your site. That said, it's your choice, so good luck.
1642  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GUI frontend for poclbm released - looking for testers on: February 25, 2011, 09:08:46 PM
Very nice. I had something half baked I was using, but this is much cleaner. Great job on the UI.
1643  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin casualties on: February 25, 2011, 07:48:23 PM
can your app do wallet merge? not export import but choosing 2 wallets and merge them to 1?
i'd try it

No, unfortunately it cannot add or remove keys from the wallet. It merely does a dumb encryption of the entire wallet using the public key of the specified GPG recipient. This means that any time your wallet is open, it is vulnerable. To me, this is better than it being vulnerable all the time, in addition to the added ease of working with multiple wallets.

Sorry!
1644  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin casualties on: February 25, 2011, 06:53:51 PM
I almost lost some, the donation address in my profile was for an old wallet on a different machine. Someone sent me a payment to that address. I wasn't even sure if it was the right one.

Nearly 2 weeks later I get to the machine and recover the wallet, all was well. So no I haven't lost yet but it's just a matter of time.

I think some wallet managing app, something that can handle more than 2 wallets at the same time would be quite usefull. It's only a matter of time until someone builds it.

Hey, I did build it already. I think it might even work on Linux, but nobody trust my code. Sad

Also, I should mention that I have not significantly tested this, so any feedback is great.

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3735.0
1645  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Idea for encrypted wallet implementation on: February 25, 2011, 06:42:33 PM
I'm not sure what this is supposed to accomplish. If I can trojan your machine I can still steal all your coins. If I can't trojan your machine how do I access your wallet?

For clarity's sake, I will refer to the private keys for use with Bitcoin as BPKs. Any other keys referenced are those used to encrypt/decrypt the BPKs.

Using this implementation, I could set up three levels of security for my wallet.

Level 0 has cleartext BPKs. Access to my wallet is sufficient to spend these coins.
Level 1 has BPKs encrypted with a GnuPG-like scheme as described above, with they encrypted private key stored in the wallet. In addition to access to my wallet, my passphrase is required to spend these coins.
Level 2 is the same as level 1, except the encrypted private key is stored on a smart card or USB drive. In addition to my passphrase and access to my wallet, the hardware device storing the key is required to spend these coins.

I could just be off my rocker, but this seems to rather elegantly solve some of the problems with password encrypted private keys.
1646  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Idea for encrypted wallet implementation on: February 25, 2011, 06:26:07 PM
I'm cross posting this from a thread in tech support, and also github issues, but I thought it might get some more views here.

Suppose we encrypt keys with the public key of a separate private key. That private key is encrypted with a symmetric algorithm, whose key is derived from the passphrase. I believe this is how GnuPG works. When we store this encrypted key in the wallet, we also store a reference to the associated private key. (Or, perhaps have it elsewhere on the file system... usb drive? smart card? keyring?) With this functionality, we could prompt the user for a password once and decrypt multiple keys. It also means that a wallet could be separated into virtual partitions with different encryption keys. I think it would allow a smooth transition, but would it be backwards compatible?[1]

Here's the way I imagine interacting with this. I would keep a small amount of bitcoin in the clear. This allows me to easily spend the small amount while assuring I won't lose much if my device is compromised (good for mobile devices). I can easily encrypt/decrypt keys by entering a target amount to "transfer". The actual amount is determined by picking keys with transactions (outputs?) summing to approximately the target[2]. In order to spend more than is in the clear, I must enter one (or more) passphrases, but the rest is automated.

[1]Can the structure of the wallet be modified for encrypted keys and a reference to the encrypting private key without causing a breaking change?

[2]You can't split the output of a transaction without writing to the block chain, right?
1647  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: February 25, 2011, 05:22:25 PM
I know, sounds somewhat immoral and unfair, so it seams immoral and unfair that Gaddafi's family take all the wealth of Libya or the Royal Family on Saudi Arabia... but this is how markets work.

What? Are you fucking serious? That's not a market, that's a coercive entity, also known as a state.
1648  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: February 25, 2011, 03:59:45 PM
Good for you.

I will never do business with a company that select a terrestrial jurisdiction for dispute resolution. That's not because I want to stay anonymous, because I am not anonymous. I am both afraid of using coercion, but I am afraid of coercion being brought down upon me.

I am quite prepared to lose money to bad people. I am quite paranoid about the people I deal with in trade. I consider the reputation, the length of time, and so on. Even if he is founded to be trusted, I'll use escrow and other methods.

I don't use terrestrial courts, and neither should my trading partners.

If you do use one to enforce contracts, I won't do business with you.

Exactly this. Can you legally (in the eyes of, say the U.S. or U.K.) waive your right to use the judicial system to mediate disputes? Could I draw up a contract that I use with anyone I do business that says "in the event of a dispute, you agree to use X, Y, or Z dispute mediator", where X, Y, or Z doesn't include state courts?

vlad: Why are you so infatuated with the courts of nation states?
1649  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: February 25, 2011, 02:40:51 PM
Anything, any action, going further than that is a step too far and a slippery-slope. His PI hobby doesn't seams welcome.

His actions will be proven to be beneficial or detrimental to his business based on the volume of business once this situation has been resolved. If you're not a customer, I don't understand your constant outrage. It's my and everyone else's choice to do business with mtgox, not yours.
1650  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: February 25, 2011, 02:35:02 PM
Most of Mt Gox's uses uses LR knowing (unless they never read the TOS) that there will happen absolutely nothing if they're account gets stolen, other than loose the money they had on it.
So this is no more than a poor attempt of "trials" and "courts" where neither judges, police or state exists.

Put your feet in the ground, man!
The user in question supposedly had Bitcoin stolen, not LR.

So you're saying that a business owner should not be allowed to protect his business by investigating potential thefts from users? Why don't you just stop using mtgox instead of bitching so much?
1651  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: February 25, 2011, 02:28:39 PM
And how can you be sure he hasn't? One is always innocent until proven guilty, by common sense.

You keep going on and on about this. I see it as the equivalent of standing on the steps of the courthouse yelling about how one must be innocent until proven guilty as the trial is happening.

Has mtgox's statement still not satisfied you? He has reason to believe that Baron stole money from another individual's mtgox account. Would you use mtgox if you knew that there were no repercussions for someone stealing money from your account?
1652  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: February 25, 2011, 01:55:47 AM
[00:48:19]   ===   mtgox <~mtgox@201.191.115.114> “...”
[00:48:19]   ===   mtgox: member of #bitcoin-otc
[00:48:19]   ===   mtgox: attached to brown.freenode.net “Madison, WI, US”
[00:48:19]   ---   End of WHOIS information for mtgox.

So does my site "lives" at Colorado and I'm at Portugal. Yeah, I know... hard relationship, specially because the timezone we hardly get each other on the phone  Grin

www.bityacht.com    US    United States    CO    Colorado    Denver

If it showed you that information, then mtgox wasn't authenticated to freenode, so that may not be him. If he was authenticated, he would have been hidden behind a cloak.
1653  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: February 25, 2011, 01:37:32 AM
Where does mtgox display an IP address?  www.mtgox.com resolves to 74.52.143.58 which appears to be an ISP in Houston TX...

Because that's where the site is hosted, but the guy isn't a Texan.
So where did you get the IP address?
1654  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Make donations; get Bitcoins. on: February 24, 2011, 11:52:33 PM
Hmm, I don't know. Who runs MyBitcoin? It would be nice if you could leave out an amount and have the user enter it on the MyBitcoin payment page (like Paypal donations).
1655  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Make donations; get Bitcoins. on: February 24, 2011, 11:32:08 PM
Just FYI, I noticed that there's now a Bitcoin donation option on Anarchy In Your Head. Smiley
1656  Economy / Economics / Re: demurrage instead of fees on: February 24, 2011, 11:06:50 PM
OK, so the profitability goes up and down as people go in and out. But what is the average profitability once you smoothe out the swings?

The original point made was that the average profit will tend toward zero.

If the average profit is above zero it must mean someone else is bearing the costs, like, your network provider.

I don't understand. Profit above zero is only possible when costs are externalized, or just in this particular case?
1657  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: February 24, 2011, 11:05:02 PM
If this is the case it is very damaging.
It's 100% speculation.
1658  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6 hours and 0 confirms! on: February 24, 2011, 10:53:22 PM
Did you try using the -rescan switch? This forces it to scan the downloaded block chain for any transactions missing from the wallet.
1659  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: February 24, 2011, 10:50:30 PM
Baron seems quite forthright, gives you addresses to chase everything you asked for .... where's mt. gox now?

Are they going to be posting bitcoin addresses so we can verify their trades are only done with "honest money"... I don't think so.... its a big can of worms chasing the money trail ... there is no where to stop but blind accusations and madness ... its not worth it and it is not what bitcoin should be about. This is very destructive for bitcoin reputation.

But the story does not make sense. How could mtgox know that Baron received 9000 BTC to a private address? The only thing I can think of is that the coins were once owned by the exchange, and Baron used the same address to cash out of mtgox and receive the 9000 BTC.
1660  Economy / Economics / Re: demurrage instead of fees on: February 24, 2011, 10:48:04 PM
if the profit is the same, as you imply, then people will try to get in on the game - competition - which forces prices down.
Until costs exceed returns, then some people will get out of the game, difficulty goes back down, and it's once again more profitable. Are we talking past each other?
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