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1641  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apa Yang Terjadi Jika INDONESIA Akui BITCOIN Sebagai Alat Pembayaran Yang Sah? on: April 26, 2017, 06:37:45 AM
sangat impossible kalo jadi alat pembayaran yg sah, disisi lain justru bisa disalahgunakan sama tikus2 berdasi buat menyimpan hasil rampokannya

tidak mungkin? saya pikir sangat mungkin. ini mungkin bisa jadi salah satu pembuka jalan untuk diakui sebagai mata uang yang sah

1642  Economy / Economics / Re: how much do you earn with 25$ investment on: April 24, 2017, 03:25:17 PM
hi
how much do you earn with 25$ investment, i started and this money doubled in 7 days.
i usually sell games and program license Smiley

chapter 1 of my e-book for free:http://uploadboy.com/e0d9fx71yi1x/634/pdf

Having 25$ as an investment was a good start for me, especially in investing on trading it will be a good start. But I cannot say how much would it be the profit in one, the answer is in your hand if you think you are good enough knowledge in trading you can make it more than that amount.

Yes your results will depend on the knowledge that you hold about the trading and what coin you choose for making an investment and if you choose a right coin at a right time and if price pumps then it can give you better profits beyond your expectations.

Is it possible to get a big profit with such a small amount? This is very small. You can start trading with 25 dollars, but there is no point in this. At a minimum, you need to have $ 100 to see the profit

Yeah $25 is too small amount to invest and you cannot expect huge profits from it if you invest it in trading as to make good profits you should also have some decent capital to invest but if you are new to trading then you can invest them in cheap altcoin and start learning the basics of trading.
Although starting from a small capital there are some people who are lucky enough in trading and earn many profits, for an investment that is a small amount and you will not be able to see the profits
We cannot afford to depend only on luck to make profits in trading as you will be lucky once or twice but not all the time and if every time you are depending on luck to make profits then you are actually gambling with money where your luck will decide your final result.
Trade really can't rely on luck like gambling. his basic trade is a strategy and information. So if you have a lot of information about cryptocurrency, at least you could very well in analyzing a coin. If trade relies on luck, the results will not be much different from gambling. would be too much to lose.
1643  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Diskusi Tentang Liga 1 Indonesia ( Liga Go-Jek Traveloka ) on: April 24, 2017, 02:32:14 PM
kemarin ane sempet lihat pertandingan PS TNI melawan Persib Bandung dan padahal permainan Persib Bandung sangat menjanjikan karena sempat unggul 2-0 tapi sayangnya mereka kelihatan kehilangan konsentrasi di menit-menit terakhir karena PS TNI mampu menyamakan kedudukan dan Persib gagal menang

iya padahal udah keren essien bisa cetak gol. hahaha
menurut ane blunder ada di pelatih persib, djanur. malah  mengganti billy di menit2 akhir. padahal performanya bagus, dia juga terlibat dalam prosese gol nya atep. belum lagi formasi dan strategi nya diubah. jadi PS TNI bisa membalas 2 gol lagi di menit2 akhir.

iya, semenjak billy di ganti sama cole, ritme permainan langsung menurun, bahkan cenderung bertahan. sedangkan saya lihat pemain bertahan dari persib sudah sangat kelelahan bgt. padahal kalau mau bertahan seharusnya masukin maitimo itu lebih bisa bertahan
1644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: April 24, 2017, 12:17:47 PM
In asian handicap real madrid give -0.25, for me it's too weird. yeah barcelona get many bad result in this season but im not think real madrid can beat barcelon because they only focus in two competition and if barca can win against real madrid, they still have a chance to get spanish league title.

Yes, Barcelona must win this match, although difficult. because they certainly don't have other goals, other than winning the trophy laliga. If they lose, barcelona this season did not get any and real madrid will make sure out as the champion.

go barca with high odds 3.25

Messi plays very wonderfully, he fell in the wake of the bloody though. I'm not wrong choosing Barcelona, they don't have another opportunity, in addition to winning this match and a chance to get a trophy la liga is still great.
 
1645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: April 24, 2017, 12:06:34 PM
OMG, Liverpool were so bad, they lost again at home Whereas I was so sure when they scored the first goal, they will win

Amazing performance from Crystal palace in April;

Chelsea 1-2 Crystal Palace

Crystal Palace
3-0 Arsenal

Liverpool 1-2 Crystal Palace

From what I understand from that, Cyristal Palace can really be called a team that is big enough to be big and a surprise team.
Then you have to play a winning bet for Cyrista Palace while playing with every major team. Cheesy


They are the same as Leicester City last season, which is always surprising when against a great team. But their luck could be the champion.
Interesting idea, perhaps you could bet for the next match when Crystal Palace vs Tottenham  Grin Grin
1646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: April 23, 2017, 05:47:41 PM
OMG, Liverpool were so bad, they lost again at home Whereas I was so sure when they scored the first goal, they will win

Amazing performance from Crystal palace in April;

Chelsea 1-2 Crystal Palace

Crystal Palace
3-0 Arsenal

Liverpool 1-2 Crystal Palace
1647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: April 23, 2017, 05:30:41 PM
In asian handicap real madrid give -0.25, for me it's too weird. yeah barcelona get many bad result in this season but im not think real madrid can beat barcelon because they only focus in two competition and if barca can win against real madrid, they still have a chance to get spanish league title.

Yes, Barcelona must win this match, although difficult. because they certainly don't have other goals, other than winning the trophy laliga. If they lose, barcelona this season did not get any and real madrid will make sure out as the champion.

go barca with high odds 3.25
1648  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Diskusi] Altcoin Di Exchanger Poloniex, Bittrex, Yobit dan C-cex on: April 23, 2017, 04:42:58 PM


minggu ini fairpump dua kali yah gan?
ternyata masih di bittrex pump nya

Hmm minggu ini coba ikut deh yang hari selasa, jumat kemaren ga jadi ikut ketiduran, jadi mesti ikut yang minggu ini sebelum dia pindah ke yobit. Kalo udh di yobit agak lesu untuk ikutan, pengalaman wd disana pernah lama soalnya  Sad.

ane sendiri kalau wd normal kok, asal jangan pake vpn disana mah. jadi bukan masalah wdnya lama. tapi koinnya beda kaya di bittrex jadi agak ngeri juga ikutan fairpump disana.
kalau bittrex kan koinnya bagus2 yang di pump.
1649  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][RLC] iEx.ec - Coud terdistribusi berbasis blockchain on: April 23, 2017, 04:38:22 PM
Selamat untuk peserta baru yang daftar diakhir ICOnya
signcamp diperpanjang dua minggu lagi bisa buat nambah stake

Itu diperpanjang gan signcampnya beruntung banget yg pada di approve rezeki berlimpah yg ikutan di akhir
iya gan hanya sekitar 100 an peserta , sampai sekarang target yang telah di capai berapa ya gan ?

ICO nya sudah tercapai gan dalam waktu tiga jam 10,000 BTC.

signaturenya sepi karena dari awal mungkin banyak yang kurang yakin, seperti gambling sih ikutan sig alt. antara sukses dan ga sukses. ga nyangka juga ini dalam 3 jam langsung tercapai, ini ICO tercepat yang pernah saya tahu.
1650  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [TERKUMPUL 4200+ BTC] TaaS: Token-as-a-Service | Closed-End fund [JOIN ICO] on: April 23, 2017, 04:30:24 PM
Saya sudah masuk ke daftar bounty nya tapi kok belom accepted ya?

agan masuk bounty twitter dan facebook nya akhir akhir ini ya? si jamal manager yang pegang campaign ini jarang update. saya aja yang udah daftar lama, belum ada status diterima kalau bounty sosial media. tapi kalau siganture langsung diterima. kerjain aja sampai akhir walaupun belum diterima. siapa tahu kalau udah penutupan ICO baru di hitung semuanya.
1651  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] ECOcoin [ECO] | PoS/PoW on: April 22, 2017, 06:44:14 AM
Ratenya bisa bisa ke 0.001 btc per ECO nih kalau pada sell terus terusan. apalagi ada giveaway 30 ECO totalnta

iya heran juga, udah tau koin sepi peminat, bukannya bagusin dulu rate, malah ngasih giveaway terus. ya jelas makin turun lah.
tapi mari kita lihat, apakah bener akan masuk ke poloniex dan bittrex, jika bener setidaknya harga bisa kembali naik.

kalau menurut ane sih masih lebih bagus mereka itu ngadain giveaway dulu biar banyak peminatnya dan banyak yang tahu tentang proyek ini
kan pertama kalian tahu coin ini dari giveaway juga, seandainya klo gak ada giveaway kita disini gak bakalan tahu adanya koin ini

trus setelah nanti koin ini udah terkenal maka dev udah kelar giveawaynya trus koin ini bakalan aktif di jual belikan di exchanger

iya gan betul agan march, mengingat ini coin POW nya sudah selesai dan tinggal POS menurut ane ngadain giveaway itu cara yg bagus.
cari gampangnya aja deh, misal ini coin nggak ngadain giveaway apa semuanya yg nongkrong disini bakal ngelirik ECO coin?
atau bahkan bakal tahu ECO coin?
justru dengan giveaway ini jdi banyak yg tau sama coin ini.
lagian kalo dilihat di thread giveaway nya, yg ikutan rata2 70%-80% orang indo. terus ada yg protes harganya ancur, itu harga ancur udah tau dong dumper nya siapa berarti?  Grin Grin padahal di stake di wallet jg lumayan.

kalau ngadagin giveaway terus ya lama lama harga koin mereka turun gan, tau sendiri kalau pemburu giveaway pasti langsung ngebuang koinnya.
kalau mau koin ini bagus dan dikenal banyak orang intinya cuman butuh projek yang bagus, terus mereka ngadain siganture dan twitter campaign, yakin dengan cara ini koin mereka makin dikenal, karena yang daftar sig sama twitter itu, rata rata mencapai ratusan orang.
1652  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] [TRST] [ICO CLOSE] WeTrust.io TABUNGAN & ASURANSI | 2250+ BTC terkumpul on: April 22, 2017, 06:23:49 AM
Gimana nih kabarnya?. Kok belum bisa menembus 9k . apakah akan diam di rate 6-7k?. Sabar nih harusnya nunggu rate diatas 9k

sabar aja gan pergerakan 6-7K satoshi juga udah lumayan masih belum seminggu umur marketnya Cheesy
udah seminggu lebih biasanya ada pergerakan bagus deh ane yakin

iya, harga segitupun bukannya sudah di atas harga ICO  Huh
pantengin aja teru gan market nya, siapa tau ngepump sampai akhir weekend ini. Smiley

kalau pergerakan stabil di 6-7k saya kira ini bagus, berarti mereka masih menjaga harga, atau masih nunggu dump dari bounty hunter, biar mereka gasabaran. habis itu baru di pump ke 10 setidaknya sama kaya edgeless, yang awalnya stabil di 6-7k skrg stabil di 10k
bener gan, lebih baik sabar aja. saya juga pantau harga di market, dan harganya stabil di 6-7k satoshi. ini memang harga yang cukup tinggi dari harga ico kmaren, jadi ada kemungkinan bakal naik harganya kalo transaksinya dah normal. jangan buru-buru sell kalo soal beginian
kalau mau sell juga gpp sih gan, sebenarnya kita main pinter aja sebelum harga benar benar mencapai harga tertinggi. kita tradingkan dulu aja buy di 5k sell 7k kemudian nunggu turun lagi buy lagi. saya juga gitu dan hasilnya ga kerasa cukup lumayan. sehingga pas harga tinggi saya pun enak punya banyak stok Cheesy
1653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: April 21, 2017, 02:46:12 PM
Here are the semifinals in Champion's League:

Juventus vs Monaco
Real Madrid vs At. Madrid

Both games will have 1 offensive team against 1 defensive team

Curiositiy:

No team has ever won the champion's league 2 times consecutively. Real Madrid will do it for the first time?
Monaco and At. Madrid have never won the champion's league.
Juventus won the champion's in 1996
but before the competition called champions league real madrid do it 5 times consecutively ,
from 1955-1956 to 1959-1960 , they are insane right?
also for the record in the last 3 champions league edition spanish teams have won it ,
two for real madrid and one for barcelona , spanish teams dominated and on fire !

Amazing performance Spanish football clubs did, they are dominant with the soccer field. Real Madrid may win the trophy this year. Wonderful dream.

Juventus was able to make barcelona is not move and could not even scored a goal at all. Juventus have a big chance to become a champion.
real madrid always difficulty when they fight ateltico madrid.
1654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If today was your last day, would you gamble everything? on: April 21, 2017, 02:37:53 PM
It would be good if you win, but if you lose? You may be regret when you are gone forever and leave your family without giving money. so it really is useless if you do that in your last days
1655  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] [TRST] [ICO CLOSE] WeTrust.io TABUNGAN & ASURANSI | 2250+ BTC terkumpul on: April 21, 2017, 02:09:36 PM
Gimana nih kabarnya?. Kok belum bisa menembus 9k . apakah akan diam di rate 6-7k?. Sabar nih harusnya nunggu rate diatas 9k

sabar aja gan pergerakan 6-7K satoshi juga udah lumayan masih belum seminggu umur marketnya Cheesy
udah seminggu lebih biasanya ada pergerakan bagus deh ane yakin

iya, harga segitupun bukannya sudah di atas harga ICO  Huh
pantengin aja teru gan market nya, siapa tau ngepump sampai akhir weekend ini. Smiley

kalau pergerakan stabil di 6-7k saya kira ini bagus, berarti mereka masih menjaga harga, atau masih nunggu dump dari bounty hunter, biar mereka gasabaran. habis itu baru di pump ke 10 setidaknya sama kaya edgeless, yang awalnya stabil di 6-7k skrg stabil di 10k
1656  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] ECOcoin [ECO] | PoS/PoW on: April 21, 2017, 02:02:09 PM
Ratenya bisa bisa ke 0.001 btc per ECO nih kalau pada sell terus terusan. apalagi ada giveaway 30 ECO totalnta

iya heran juga, udah tau koin sepi peminat, bukannya bagusin dulu rate, malah ngasih giveaway terus. ya jelas makin turun lah.
tapi mari kita lihat, apakah bener akan masuk ke poloniex dan bittrex, jika bener setidaknya harga bisa kembali naik.
1657  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [TERKUMPUL 3700+ BTC] TaaS: Token-as-a-Service | Closed-End fund [JOIN ICO] on: April 20, 2017, 04:17:10 PM
proyek ini masih dibuka gk bounty nya gan ?
saya lihat gk pernah update thread , scam kali yah ?
masih di buka gan. dan yang di maksud update thread yang bagian mana ya?

yang dimaksud sama agan di atas spreadsheet nya gak di update jadi blm tau dapat stake berapa terus di accept gak?
sama gan saya juga bingung ini kok blm ada di update2 lagi udah bejibun peserta saya cek. mudah2an aja dapat bagian bounty.

Gag pakai stake keknya gan
yang penting 50 postingan terpenuhi sampai ICOnya berakhir
ayo semangat biar syarat postingannya terpenuhi

kalau tidak pakai stake yang rugi dong gan yang rank tinggi, itu kan sudah jelas ada stakenya.
Jr Member dan Member: 1 Stake/Minggu
Full dan Sr Member: 2 Stakes/Minggu
Hero dan Legendary Member: 2.5 Stakes/Minggu
1658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: April 20, 2017, 03:46:50 PM
Think of it why trading is better than gambling don't you see of it. Trading can make you millionaire in just a couple of days or hours only. In gambling your money is now in 50/50 but in trading if you lose its just paper lose, well if you know how to trade you can't lose such big amount if you have knowledge about it

If talking about being a millionaire in a short time, gambling can also do it. but on the other hand why trade the better, because we won't lose everything in an instant. and sometimes there is still chance to recover. while gambling you could lose it all in an instant.
1659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: April 20, 2017, 03:41:09 PM
I think Juventus will win the Champions League this year, they are the best defensive side and they are able to score the goals especially when they are playing at home. Madrid were poor against Bayern defensively especially with the own goal, it was embarrassing.
i'm still wait their next opponent for semifinal match and if Juventus able to through those match probably they are strong candidate to bring the trophy but champion league is difficult to predict and on the semifinal match they will meet strong opponents too


Yes juventus has the best defense at this time, I agree juventus is the biggest candidate for became champions. Juventus will try to revenge because they failed in the Champions League final 2014-15, when it lost a penalty shootout by FC barcelona. so while it's a great opportunity for them to become champions.
1660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is more risky. Sport or casino bets ? on: April 20, 2017, 03:30:35 PM
for me both have the same risk. nothing is more risky. because I think the sports betting with the odds of the smallest that is not a guarantee to win, and the result will be the same as the dice game when you bet on a 95% chance the results will be random.
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