Exactly!!!!!

We don't want to hear any of this 50/50 bullshit.

You, hairy bairy, are starting to sound too much like me, which is totally UNacceptable.   

Better be UP; otherwise, BTC HODLers from this thread may have to put Hairy bairy on a kind of "silent treatment" just to teach him a lesson.

The next 6 hours are critical.  ^TM  you heard it here, first, and the soonest. ^tm

must be your catholic upbringing and the beatings from the nuns?      You are out of line!!!!!!  Goose!!!!   

Actually, I like when members provide some of their personal details that are on topic to the discussion, and surely there are a variety of ways to provide some of the specifics without necessarily going overboard...

To make a long story less long, yes, I do appreciate your disclosure regarding your BTC versus Alt ratios, and that certainly provide a decent clue about any person's perspective - furthermore, I understand that the percentages can change from time to time, and sometimes, we just get tired of calculating and recalculating.  Nonetheless, my altcoin allocation has mostly been in the 1-2% arena - however when bcash  first forked, I was likely in the 10-15% arena until I got rid of that shit, which also took a few months to really figure out how to accomplish safely and to attempt to be somewhat strategic about it... absent Coinbase's surprise fuck issuance of that shit.. which I dumped those Coinbase bcash coins as soon as I could figure out how to do it, given the ways that they were freezing the bcash price and coming up with other bullshit bcash games that limited liquidity and even skewed matters for a few days (at least).

That praying from you mic, does not seem to be helping, currently.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Maybe try some reverse psychology, and see if you can trick BTC into going up?   

That is one of the problems with technical analysis.

The price can shoot beyond expectations and for no real reason, except that people expect the opposite.

In other words, our current BTC price battle continues with decently sized ongoing trade volume.

Does anyone conclude that there is NOT a current BTC price battle with decently sized BTC trade volume?

There is also a kind of school of thought (whether it is a JJG made up school of thought or otherwise) that suggests that whenever we are in a certain price battle range, there odds of a break out in either direction approaches 50/50, yet there is a certain amount of devil in the details of determining what is the current relevant range and what kinds of price movements would rise to the level of a meaningful "break out."

I would say that there are decent odds, currently in favor of the bears, but even having said that, such concession of bear favorability does not make a downward break out, in the short term, inevitable, which brings us back to odds approaching 50/50, until "it" happens.       

I hope not.

GO Tzupy!!!!!!!!!!!  Let the bottom already be "in"!!!!!!!!

Shall we pray, together?

You hang around here long enough, then symbolism happens.  Seems to be part of the package, and don't try to act surprised.  You have become a symbol for quite a while, and you have partly created such, yourself.


I doubt that is an adequate defense.  It is largely attempting to frame the current direction of bitcoin as if it is NOT bitcoin, when the current direction of bitcoin includes segwit (since about August 2017) and has become bitcoin through more than 95% consensus.. so in that regard, you are not really reasonably able to get segwit out of the bitcoin, unless you are able to achieve a significant high level of consensus.. perhaps somewhere approaching 95%, but maybe with some whining and complaining, you might be able to get agreement about lowering the consensus threshold levels to remove segwit from bitcoin.


This is just going back to the symbolism point, but really, jbreher, we have to be careful about taking anything too personal on the internet anyhow.  Of course, sometimes I can get pretty pissed off at some of the WO posters, but sometimes those emotions will just blow over and with some passage of time, they might even be forgotten - if the personality (or on line persona) is NOT too grating.  Of course, with you personally, sometimes, I find your points to be extremely provocative, ridiculous and even bordering on disingenuous - yet sometimes, I will see that you make decent points too, which can be helpful to members (or even readers) to consider another perspective (yours, as jaded and/or pie in the sky as that might seem to be  ). 

Hahahaha..

i skipped responding to that one too, but I think for different reasons.

Obviously, an ETH pumper who is delirious about supposed competitive value of ETH in comparison to BTC, so arguably at least some attempt to make a comparison to bitcoin, even if substantively off-base if the poster actually believes that ETH is not muddled with various kinds of centralization problems with proof of Vitalik and also attack vectors and even bloat problems that are only "theoretically" going to get fixed soon. ^tm.   , so perhaps kind of on topic, arguably in an attempt to NOT just blindly pump baloney ETH but to argue with baloney points that it is supposedly superior to BTC.

Actually, I remain a bit surprised that the ratio of trolls in this thread remains decently low, and accordingly I am NOT sure if that constitutes a bullish or bearish sign..  Would be nice if the bottom is in, but many of us tentatively concluded that the bottom had been in at $5,774.. and now we are floating around 35% lower than that previously speculated local bottom.  Lot of HODLers got fucked with some possible opportunity costs on that tentative conclusion, even if it just remains as a kind of psychological set-back and a sign of deferred moon.   

And?  We know who is Satoshi Nakamoto, or he disappeared?  Is he still alive?  Under your theory, Satoshi's coins should never move again, unless they are either hacked or some kind of consensus evolves around recovering them, which seems doubtful at this point.

Thanks for asking, even though I am just one opinion.. so I am not really sure what it matters about what I think at this moment, but at least it seems to be more closely related to bitcoin than dan larimer.

Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudo-name that is behind the creation of bitcoin - it's white paper and the initial couple of years of mining... What else is to be said, and why you put parenthesis around satoshi nakamoto?  By the way, I do recall that dan larimer is in the books as being someone who interacted with satoshi on a few ocassions, seeming like a kind of troll, and satoshi has a relatively famous response to him saying that if larimer does not do some looking into the matter, he does not have time to explain to larimer... .something like that... Are you trying to make some kind of connection based on that interaction?  The burden is on you to make your point, not upon me to guess whatever the fucking point that you are trying to make (if any?).

and bulk it up a bit, too.

O.k.  Fair enough.

I am willing to temporarily make-up based on those kinds of representations, at least we can have a beer based on that - but I am not going to go so far as to spend a holiday meal with you... hahahahahaha  not yet, unless you are dating my sister or something, then I would likely be able to tolerate over a meal or a holiday gathering... .

By the way, I still do believe that you responded a bit too much and too strongly to me - because all I stated was that "you probably was feeling nervous based on market circumstances."  I will concede that in reality, I don't know what the fuck you would have been feeling and specifically how you are dealing with some of the BTC price movements (and those other shit coin projects), and in the end, it does not really matter.  I named you as my example, because you happen to be a kind of symbol in this thread (a talking point), in part, based on the strong positions that you have taken in regards to BIG blocks and bcash, and some other bitcoin bashing, such as bashing segwit and other consensual developments in bitcoin including its governance. 

The fact that you frequent upon bitcoin bashing makes you a talking point target, and what I say does not even need to be personally about you and your particulars, it is merely a talking point - to say "jbreher must be feeling blah blah blah."  Who gives a shit how jbreher is actually feeling, because it is a reference to a symbol that happens to likely be a real person (actually I am not even accusing you of being a non-person, yet...  )

Personally, I think that it is fair game for me or anyone here to razz you or attempt to razz you in various ways, partly because you defend bcash so vigorously (which is widely disliked by active participants of this thread), and you get plenty of zingers into suggesting bitcoin is flawed in various ways, that just seem to be parroting talking points of bcashers and other alt coin pumpers, ICO pumpers and bitcoin naysayers.

Regarding my experience compared to yours, blah blah blah.. who fucking cares?  People come to this thread with various kinds of experiences and abilities to contribute, and over time some of us grow more into the thread and some might grow away from the thread, and there are many variations in between in terms of how life experience or thread experience might allow for various kinds of contributions...

Anyhow, we might have reached at least a bit of a temporary kind of truce here, for now, but I don't necessarily expect you to stand down in any kind of meaningful way, exactly, either, you stubborn fuck.   

Yes.  That's when I started in bitcoin, but I was not born then.  I was born earlier than that.



Oh?  So in your mind, you are smarter based on certain kinds of experiences?

Part of the idea of patronizing is that it seems to be off topic, and in that regard, my earlier post did not even question your level of smartness, but you felt a need to inject such supposed smartness based on experience into the response.


I will concede that if your basis cost is smaller then you have less pressure, and I will also concede that stacking up dollars and bitcoins on both ends will provide a decent sized trade cushion, but I still don't see any reason to be patronizing about the situation... when all I did was make a statement of presumption that even jbreher should be nervous.. and perhaps moreso because of the bcash situation, yet whether you deny such nervousness or not, I don't see any useful purpose for the patronizing....

Oh, and thanks for commending my DCA commitment... at least my variation of such that I have been employing and I have been sharing the discussion of such, too.


I stand by my comments and my inquiries and my assertions, so far, and if you are not getting nervous than good upon you.  Takes a certain amount of juggling to also stay in bitcoin and also to maintain stakes with bcash shenanigans, too.

Not the first time with your attempts at patronizing phoney baloney, and you should realize, by now, that you likely don't know enough about me nor my experiences to actually lord over such information, even though I see that you are not timid in trying from time to time.  

Furthermore, you should recognize that your patronizing clout diminishes  - especially when I have identified a decent amount of your bullshit claims especially when it comes to trolling and bcash bullshit... so in that regard, you have gotten caught with your pants down on a few occasions.... and in that regard, you lose a decent amount of clout, especially the patronizing kind of clout.      So go ahead, try, try try with that kind of seemingly defensive emptiness...


I will take your status of supposed cool, calm and collectedness with a decently sized grain of salt.
 

That does not come off as calm, and even seems to show that you are engaging in your own kind of projection.

With any market, there are a variety of actors, and in bitcoin, we have bcashers who exacerbate, and in the end, I doubt that I am projecting responsibility - even though, from time to time, I am pointing fingers and calling spades, spades.  I am not going to embrace attack vectors, even though I will recognize that they are present and they cannot be trusted, and my investment style has not been very much affected by them, even though I may tweak a little here and there because of price movements, and considering whether I need to reconsider if the drama and the pesty ants matter to the whole scheme of things (whether I am going to let them ruin my picnic), when I can just brush them away and keep eating the picnic food.

So, yeah the ants might affect me, but I can proceed, and just change a few things in order to continue to enjoy the picnic.  A bear at the picnic table, might be another story, but let's say that we have not yet had that level of inconvenience in this particular picnic.

That was shroomie that said that...


Wow!!! we have ourselfies an overlapping and mixing up of the Wall observer mover and shakers...

What is so interesting about that?  we are not talking about silver.  We are talking about bitcoin.


I doubt that I said that.  I just said that people don't seem to be in the mood for champagne right now, including myself.



Did I say that bitcoin does not have any price floor whatsoever?  You seem to be selectively reading too much into what you wished that I would have said, so in that regard, there seems to be little need to explore your pie in the sky hypothetical  because you likely know the answer as well as I do, but you are only asking the question based on a made up hypothetical because you want to take fantasylandia talk rather than real world and grown up talk.  

In other words, snap out of your fantasy, and GROW The fuck up, roach!!!!!




Huh?  What does Dan Larimer have to do with bitcoin?  He's an altcoin pumper and creator..  He's a distractor to bitcoin.. .Can you focus yourself, roach?  If you want to talk about bitcoin, then bring up some real examples, not some stupid shit about whatever the fuck Dan Larimer happens to be doing, as if anyone in this thread, including myself gives a shit?  or believes Larimer to be relevant to talking about bitcoin price walls and observing them?

O.k.  I will consider that we are not really making much progress in our discussion because I responded to your various points with my opinion, and I even thought that your points were fairly weak from the start, but I was willing to entertain them, but we did not seem to go anywhere. 


Hopefully another member can respond to your points because I personally think that you are not really making any clear case.  Think about it.  '

A merit system is implemented with various goals in mind that are communicated to the members, and if you, as a member, are suggesting to change the system, then you have the burden to provide facts and logic in order to convince others (especially forum administration - theymos) that changes that you are suggesting are warranted or would be helpful. 

In the end, members do not make the policies of the forum, but instead it is theymos, perhaps through the suggestion and recommendations of members (and moderators) but in the end, he decides if he is going to make changes in accordance with suggestions and criticisms.  Whether you deviated or not, I am not following what seems to be more like a stream of consciouness production rather than any decent points that make sense to me.  Perhaps some other member will be able to follow and chime in better than me.

Technically, yes.  I responded to dee roach.