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1661  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can Bitcoin be trusted? on: February 25, 2023, 07:19:54 AM
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Oh yeah. Bitcoin is very trustworthy.

What was the first answer you gave when your friend asked you that question? We want to know too.

Bitcoin has crashed and if you gave him the answer that Bitcoin has never crashed, then you need to go to him again and give him the answer that Bitcoin has crashed in 2018 and 2021.
You need a broader understanding and knowledge to know before you try to convince others. Because it will be fatal if the person you are trying to convince knows more about what you are trying to convince.
Bitcoin crashing is not even a question anymore, it is a proven thing that it will always crash and it is normal for it to crash. Something that goes up as much as bitcoin does, will eventually crash no matter what because it gets too big at the highest levels and that is just a normal thing to see when you are investing. I know that it is not a happy thought that it will eventually crash, but after every new ATH we end up with a new crash.

OP could tell their friend that it will not crash anytime soon and it will go up first, but eventually it will crash again one day, and a big one at that, at least 50%+ crash, it just has to happen in order for market to have this cycle.
It is also necessary for the OP to convey how volatile the crypto market is in addition to explaining the greatness of Bitcoin that makes it the best asset for investment.
If they only convey how the benefits for the sake of the benefits that will be obtained, we fear that they will blame the person who conveyed when something unexpected happens later. This may sound general, but I think it's necessary.

I think you're right that the OP needs to convey how the crash and rebound cycles have been so far.
1662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: February 25, 2023, 06:00:41 AM
Real Madrid vs Athletico Madrid

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Although Real Madrid are far more certain to win the Madrid derby, Atletico will give them a run for their money as this match will feel like a replay of the Copa Del Rey where Atletico suffered a 3-1 defeat in the quarter-finals.
For me, this match is difficult to predict given that both teams will not want to drop points even though the Santiago Bernabéu will be the venue.
There's a good chance that I feel this match will end in a draw with head to head considerations.
1663  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 25, 2023, 04:45:52 AM
Liverpool have not fully recovered, and it seems that many doubt Liverpool's victory. If you want to place a bet on this match, then you should be able to consider the amount of bet you are using. If you look at it from a strength perspective, Liverpool should have won against Crystal Palace, but if Liverpool accidentally made a mistake and used Crystal Palace well to score a goal, then Liverpool could lose.
The Premier League will be the only way Liverpool can make them participate in the UCL next season considering the chances of qualifying for the next round are already slim considering the results against Real Madrid at Anfield lost with a big score.

Against Crystal Palace at Selhurst Park in round 25, Jurgen Klopp demands his players to be able to get full points because when playing at Anfield on August 16, 2023 yesterday they were only able to draw.
With the last two wins in the Premier League against Everton and Newcastle, we believe Liverpool will get positive results at Selhurst Park and will be an additional spirit to improve their position in the table.

We think this analysis will make us win the bet in choosing Liverpool in the 25th round match.
1664  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: February 24, 2023, 07:03:25 AM
Yes, Barcelona has not fully reached the real level at the European level. But in terms of game the Blaugrana have achieved quite a rapid increase, it's just that they are out of luck. In European competition this season, Barcelona faced quite a formidable hurdle. In the Champions League, they entered the group of hell, then the results of the draw for the Europa League play-off round were also forced to meet MU.
As for joining the group of hell in the UEFA Champions League and having to play Manchester United after the draw in the UEFA European League, for us it was just a coincidence. Getting back to the glory days is certainly not easy and takes a lot of time.
The two teams that played last night are a good example. Barcelona are in a slump in European competition and will have a chance to rediscover themselves next season as their attempt with Xavi in the UEFA European League also stalled in the round of 32 after drawing at Camp Nou and losing at Old Trafford.
1665  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are there age limits to Bitcoin investment? on: February 24, 2023, 06:39:46 AM
Even though Bitcoin does not limit a person's age in owning Bitcoin, I personally will never involve children at an early age for Bitcoin things even though it is not written in the rules of owning Bitcoin itself. But if we see that there are children who understand Bitcoin and understand how to store it and how to exchange it on the exchange, there is nothing wrong with letting him get involved in cryptocurrency and Bitcoin even though he is still very young.
If there are children who are under 16 years old but already understand Bitcoin and how to utilize internet security, my guess is that these children have an IQ above average and need special guidance.

It is true that so far there is no age-limiting provision in terms of Bitcoin ownership, but guiding children who are entering their golden age is very necessary considering the swift flow of the internet that is unstoppable. If at that time we are able to guide internet security, it is not surprising that when the child's teenage years will easily understand when we teach about Bitcoin.
1666  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can Bitcoin be trusted? on: February 24, 2023, 01:59:18 AM
A friend of mine came to me and we were having a conversation and I was trying to introduce he to the forum,but he turns out that I was asked if I really trust and believe in bitcoin it will never crash like other cypto industry.

I want know if it will not crash and I need help to convince him about it that it will not crash because am a beginner and I haven't know much about bitcoin so I guess been here I will fine help to assist my friend to join the forum.
Oh yeah. Bitcoin is very trustworthy.

What was the first answer you gave when your friend asked you that question? We want to know too.

Bitcoin has crashed and if you gave him the answer that Bitcoin has never crashed, then you need to go to him again and give him the answer that Bitcoin has crashed in 2018 and 2021.
You need a broader understanding and knowledge to know before you try to convince others. Because it will be fatal if the person you are trying to convince knows more about what you are trying to convince.
1667  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bounty sebagai pekerjaan utama? on: February 24, 2023, 01:41:28 AM
Kampanye berbayar Bitcoin saat ini memang banyak mas, makanya banyak yang ingin bergabung ke kampanye berbayar Bitcoin. Jika dibandingkan dengan sebelum saya join di Freebit, kampanye berbayar BTC yang aktif hanya beberapa, sedangkan saat ini, kampanye baru terus bermunculan.
Kalau dulu orang pada sibuk mengejar altcoin karena disaat waktu distribusi tiba harga token jika dikumpulkan secara keseluruhan lumanyan mas sehingga banyak orang fokus di bounties dan di airdrop. Contohnya ane mas yang banyak menghabiskan waktu untuk bergabung dengan airdrop dan sama sekali tidak terpikir untuk bergabung dengan kampanye yang berbayar BTC. Namun sekarang kampanye yang berbayar BTC sudah banyak sehingga mencoba untuk bergabung alih-alih diterima.

Sedangkan altcoin tidak begitu menarik, kita tahu banyak sekali yang tidak sesuai harapan.
Ya. Tidak lagi menarik karena bayaran tidak lagi memenuhi harapan. Paling bagi yang ngeblog.

Memilih pindah ke bayaran BTC karena ada banyak kesempatan terbuka, itu alasannya menurut saya.
Ini alasan yang menurut ane memenuhi standar. Dengan mulai banyak kampanye bayaran BTC dengan alih-alih mendapat keberuntungan karena managernya yang sangat selektif. Pertimbanhan lain jika diterima maka bisa buat hold.
1668  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Sertifikat gratis belajar bitcoin dari bitcoinSV academy on: February 22, 2023, 08:02:22 AM
Kenapa tidak langsung memberi nama "Bitcoin Academy" saja terus tanpa harus "SV" ?
Lagian om juga harus tau bahwa selain Bitcoin maka itu adalah altcoin meskipun namanya menyerupai Bitcoin dan anehnya kenapa isinya adalah tentang Bitcoin tetapi nama akademi nya malah menjadi BitcoinSV. Hati-hati juga itu om jangan nanti jalurnya malah lari ke yang lain karena sekarang sangat mudah bagi sebagian orang yang sedang membangun proyek baru dengan mengatas namakan Bitcoin, padahal yang ingin dipromosikan bukan Bitcoin. Tetapi hal itu digunakan hanya untuk menarik minat semua orang terhadap produk barunya.
Ane teringat disaat masih aktif ngeburu Airdrop ada komunitas yang membuat acara seminar tentang salah satu token sebelum era pandemi kemarin. Yang ingin ane sampaikan adalah pematerinya menjelaskan tentang kripto dan lebih banyak menjelaskan tentang Bitcoin.
Dari berbagai kehebatan dan kelebihan Bitcoin yang disampaikan ujung-ujungnya mereka mengajak semua peserta yang hadir untuk berinvestasi pada token yang sedang mereka promosikan. Namun ujungnya token tersebut scam. Ane tidak ingat lagi apa nama token tersebut dan ane akan mencoba untuk mencari tahu nama token tersebut.

BSV dan BTC sangat jauh perbedaannya. Akan lebih menarik untuk diikuti jika pelatihan yang dibuat adalah tentang Bitcoin (BTC) dan pembahasan yang akan dijelaskan juga tentang Bitcoin. Lagian di era saat ini sangat banyak ruang yang dapat diakses untuk bisa mendapatkan sertifikat.
1669  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: February 22, 2023, 07:19:53 AM
Real Madrid came back to beat Liverpool 5-2 at Anfield, Liverpool leading 2-0 after just 14 minutes, but Real Madrid scored five goals at Anfield to hold a big advantage after the first leg.
Liverpool defended too loosely, allowing Karim Benzema and Vinicius Junior to score twice. Thus, Liverpool must score at least 3 goals at the Bernabeu.
Not a single player allowed the opponent to score. I think your narrative is wrong there.
To have won by 2 goals in 14 minutes and then concede 5 goals is a bad match. Not on one front, but on all fronts Liverpool failed to maintain the victory they had done.

3 goals must be made by Liverpool at the Santiago Bernabeu in leg 2 is not an easy thing. By chance it is unlikely to succeed, only a miracle can be expected by Liverpool to beat Real Madrid with a score above 3. Sometimes we want to say that Liverpool can repeat the incident when they beat Milan in the Final, but we smile ashamed of the Reds' performance last night.
1670  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽🎮🎲 Coinplay.com | Brand New Crypto Sportsbook & Casino on: February 21, 2023, 12:46:08 PM
Bitcointalk is a popular forum and the advertisement on bitcointalk attracts a lot of attention to the project. Coinplay.com is a crypto casino and many users of the casino visit bitcointalk forum and get information about casino from this forum.
There is so much information about crypto on this forum that it is not wrong or the right choice if a company advertises their project on this forum as a form of promotion.
Coinplay as an example of a new crypto casino company that chooses to advertise here. Maybe Coinplay.com can feel the positive impact so far.

Many people who used to bet at casinos with fiat currencies are now interested in betting at crypto casinos. They are constantly looking for information on how to play and others to understand it and this forum is the most popular and active forum.
You can recommend your friends to advertise here. Who knows, you may be planning to do so yourself.
1671  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: February 21, 2023, 09:52:50 AM
I wonder why Liverpool are as favorites in the odds,I know that they are playing in their home field tonight and before their legendary fans who keep singing Liverpool anthem even when they are losing 3-0 but I think that tonight normally Real Madrid is in better shape than Liverpool and I acknowledge that despite being a Liverpool fan.For me is great as I am betting on Liverpool win or draw at 1.55 odd so most likely I am going to win the bet but this I also know it will be very difficult to achieve as Real Madrid is out of the title fight in La Liga being 8 points behind Barcelona so most likely their full focus will be here tonight.
Another reason is because Liverpool are in good form in the last two matches in the Premier League so they are favored at odds. Another reason may be that the Leg 1 match is held at Anfield.
Beyond the betting aspect, we believe Leg 1 will belong to Liverpool even though Real Madrid's form is also quite good in La Liga including their success in beating Al Hilal in the FIFA Club World Cup Final.

The duo of Nunez, Gakpo and Mohamed Salah have started to find cohesion with each other. For us, it's a very positive thing to welcome Real Madrid.
Liverpool are also rumored to be back with Diogo Jota who was sidelined due to injury.
1672  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Newbie s.d Hero) V.2 [UPDATE] on: February 20, 2023, 08:46:49 AM
Assalamualaikum Wr. Wb.

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Waalaikum Salam Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

Ane kira hampir semua postingan yang ajukan mencakup semua poin didalamnya, mulai dari penulisan, pesan yang hendak disampaikan serta mudah untuk dipahami oleh kami yang membaca.
Mungkin nanti ketika akan ada tanggapan dari teman-teman SFI dalam menilai masih terdapat kekurangan pada satu dan beberapa bagian karena setiap kita punya penilaian yang berbeda dalam menilai. Tentunya itu hal yang wajar dan yang sebenarnya agan inginkan ketika mengajukannya disini. Bagi ane, postingan agan nyaris complete.
1673  Economy / Speculation / Re: why Bitcoin Dumping ? on: February 20, 2023, 05:33:20 AM
why Bitcoin Dumping ?

Bitcoin Started Dumping again  
Now can we expect $17000 Again?
According to me, it will Dump again $17000    am I right?
OP. Have you found the answer to why Bitcoin dumping?
Your topic was Bitcoin price $17K and you asked why. Now the Bitcoin price has reached a multiple of 2 of the price you questioned. I wonder why?
Then before the price of Bitcoin was $17K, what was the price of Bitcoin many years ago. The question arises again, why?

If the current Bitcoin price is $24,400, don't be surprised when one day the price returns to a multiple of 2 and don't panic when a new ATH price appears. That's Bitcoin.
1674  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 20, 2023, 03:53:01 AM
A comeback stronger from liverpool happened against newcastle. This is my first time seeing that nunez and gakpo perform so well in EPL. Either of the players gakpo or nunez was making their goals against newcastle. A bit surprised that the performance from newcastle has been declining a lot.

Nick pope must be ashamed of the intentional handball that was already been made. He deserves a red card for sure. It's very sad to see that liverpool can't even add more goals since newcastle was only playing with 10 players.

Three points have been enough to make liverpool climb up again. It seems like nunez and gakpo have been finding their best positions.
Liverpool's last two wins have been valuable capital for Jurgen Klopp to look forward to the rest of the season with hope.
Nunez, Gakpo and Salah have been able to give performances that make Klopp and the Anfield public feel that what was missing has started to return.

We don't want to review the mistakes made by Newcastle United players in detail because they may not be in good form lately.
On the other hand, there are some shortcomings that Jurgen Klopp still needs to make changes to the Liverpool squad, namely the midfield which is still unstable in supplying the flow of the ball forward.
1675  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 19, 2023, 12:07:30 PM
The opportunity for Manchester United to add points in this match is very open. But still, Manchester United cannot be careless in this match. because of course Manchester United don't want to suffer the same fate as Tottenham last week which was defeated by Leicester city. But it seems because Manchester United are the hosts of this match. So it's only natural that the Manchester United players will be more confident in this match. and it seems that Erik ten Heg also seems confident in the superiority of his team in this match.
4-1 defeating Tottenham is a good record for Leicester City to face Manchester United at Old Trafford later. The Foxes are eager to get points at Old Trafford even though they realize that Manchester United are doing well at the moment.

Manchester United's chances of winning are very big later against Leicester City, but Leicester City is always a difficult team for Manchester United to win. At least Erik ten Hag must be aware of the two positive results Leicester have obtained in the last two matches if they do not want to slip in this round 24.
1676  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Know your limit on: February 19, 2023, 11:12:22 AM
You don't have to use all your money to invest, even if you are not married yet or have other responsibilities, the best approach when planning to invest in Bitcoin is to buy with some percentage of the money you earning, maybe through business or a job.
The economic system prioritizes good management, including investing. Investment is a good step in organizing future finances.
I think you need to explain to him that this is not the style of investing. Even a small amount invested gradually is better than forcing yourself to ask others for loans.

It is not okay to take all the money to invest in Bitcoin as long as there are other savings to cover the daily needs of the family for those who already have children and wife. But as long as that is not fulfilled, then it is better for your friend not to force himself to do it because the market is very volatile.
1677  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's your reasons for holding bitcoins? on: February 19, 2023, 10:30:36 AM
My questions is people keeping bitcoin for too long and begins to hear story?
What's the secret that's different from taking profit?
Is that long term bitcoin don't experience losses?
You only need to run what you want on Bitcoin. If you don't want to hold it in the long run, it doesn't matter at all because Bitcoin is basically only the owner who can control it.
Maybe you can enjoy the pattern that you are currently doing, then continue.

Let us do the long term holding.
One thing is certain that Bitcoin can provide much greater benefits for those who are able to be patient with long-term investment patterns.
1678  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 19, 2023, 08:57:21 AM
Liverpool ending Newcastle United's unbeaten by an impressive 2-0 win at St James' Park.
1 assists with 83% accurate passes, TAA was the standout performer at St. Jame's Park and was the man of the match.
With a convincing win over Everton last week and continuing against Newcastle United opens up hope for us to compete for fourth place as the last position for automatic qualification for UCL next season.

And as you say, Liverpool were the team that stopped Newcastle's unbeaten run at home this season.
A win against Newcastle could be a valuable asset for Liverpool to face Real Madrid in the UCL in a few days' time.
1679  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 18, 2023, 02:55:38 PM
Aston Villa 2 - 4 Arsenal
The final result was quite impressive after seeing 2-2 after 90 minutes of the game!
Pulling 2 goals in the extra time was unexpected and Aston Villa failed to keep the one point they have the whole time. Congratulations for gunners for the victory and for maintaining 3 points gap between them and City
Impressed if Arsenal did not want to waste the opportunity to lift the trophy this season so in the second half Martin Odegaard made Gunners fans around the world cheer when Zinchenko opened the equalizer to 2-2.

The spirit of Arsenal players continued to grow after Zinchenko's goal so that Arsenal's winning drama occurred in the extra minute. Bringing on Martinelli was a great start for Arsenal.  6 minutes of added time 2 goals were created starting from Martinez making a mistake.
Really, now 3 points difference with Manchester City.
1680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 18, 2023, 01:27:48 PM
Philippe Coutinho has scored a beautiful goal to put the home team back to the lead what a superb strike from him and the placing by Alex Moreno was full of experience and a very good job. Arsenal is back to asking questions again but this time, Aston Vila won't let the gunners take them unaware again as they are doing a good job to push out Saka out of their goalpost.
2-1 lasted until the break of the first half.
Aston Villa players did not let Arsenal players continue to freely shoot towards Aston Villa goalkeeper Martinez.
Aston Villa in the first half did 4 shoots 2 goals. Arsenal only dominated the percentage of ball possession with 2 shoots.

If until the end Aston Villa is able to maintain the current victory, then Arteta let the opportunity to win the Premier League this season to other teams because Arsenal initially appeared as the strongest candidate to win the Premier League after quite a long time the Gunners no longer felt how to party at the end of the competition.
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