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1661  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: January 21, 2017, 12:46:12 PM
Totally agree because fiat is being existed for decades and accepted worldwide if your currency is strong. On other hand bitcoin is on nascent stage and not accepted worldwide as of now.

And also because the state must be and has full authority to control bitcoin, the price and total coins in circulation. If two things that can not be done, of  course bitcoin will never replace fiat money.
The big question is, how can the state control bitcoin? FYI, it is decentralized and only those big bag holders can manipulate the price, but there is no guarantee that all the time they can do that. If the government want to control it, they have to purchase a major volume but I don't they will waste money on that.
lol wasting money to mining bitcoin? buy bitcoin you mean?
your fantasy is way too far , simply both fiat and bitcoin for now better to live together ,
but in the future i would say there is nothing impossible to happened include bitcoin to replace fiat ,
technology growing faster , noone knows this one could happen.
1662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I never made any profits in dice game.. whats is your opinion on: January 21, 2017, 12:30:22 PM
I lose money overall. Sometimes I will go on a good run and seem to be making money but there is always a bad run that cancels it out later.

That is the beauty of gambling and makes these games so exciting. That's why we should always use some fixed amounts to gamble because no need to worry about our losses and we can just concentrate on games and enjoy fully. I made money from my sports betting but always I lose when I play dice game. But is a fun so I play one or two times in a month.
nothing beauty if you keep losing isn't it?
sometimes even you have set the limit to gamble in certain rules you will just break it ,
the power of greedy was too great to be handle by people ,
no wonder why in the end most people just suffering lost.
1663  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: January 21, 2017, 12:17:21 PM
Do you think if BTC had a stable price which could only be altered by $0.01-0.10 it would still be as popular and as used?

It is true that Bitcoin so far in our generation is not that quite popular in the world. But in some countries like Australia, Europe, China, Singapore etc. bitcoin is well known to their place. And in my opinion even bitcoin has no stable price but the users will get more increase this will pursue  bitcoin into popularity I think.
then first of all bitcoin have to be fully adopted ,
otherwise the stable price will make people not interested and just leaving ,
based on people around me they think what makes bitcoin grow faster is because about the volatile price ,
and so do i , the unique price like currently happened is the surplus for bitcoin.
1664  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: January 21, 2017, 12:04:38 PM
Then it will not be a problem to gamble if money will not be a problem. You can see a number of rich gamblers in casinos they have their income sources as their business but they still gamble with some of their money and they gamble for their fun.
I would personally be scared to get addicted when I'd have a huge amount of money. What kind of win would really make you feel like you've won?
Seems like a recipe for addiction IMO.
yupp i would have the same feeling too ,
but considering i personally not rich and never know what the real feeling become rich ,
and gambling in a casino would have different that when we are in poor/broke situation ,
the more money you have the more risk you have to losing money in casino.
1665  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: January 15, 2017, 06:47:37 AM

 you can reduce your losses if you gamble with small and fixed amount each time.

You play only to minimize what you will lose everytime? that is just so silly, everyone play to win and if you think that you have no chance to win anything at all and only play to 'AVOID' losing too much then you should not be gambling in the first hand as it is much better to not lose anything rather losing some small amount
hmm i think have to agree with erwin statement ,
gambling are a place to take a risk , if you don't want to take it just leave it ,
and what makes gambling so excited are when you risk something big ,
small amount won't make you pleased enough.
1666  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: January 15, 2017, 04:32:59 AM
For tomorrow I will go with:
Man Utd vs Liverpool --> both teams to score (1.75)
This is a great odd and an outcome with a realistic probability to happen.Therefore I'm giving it a try.
This match will be a battle, I am waiting for it, today we watched easy wins for Chelsea, Tottenham, and Arsenal. That will give more value for the remaining matches tomorrow, for Man United vs Liverpool I will bet on both teams to score as well, because both teams have good strikers.

Yes agree with both of you, is not easy to choose one of them to win because they have the same chance of winning
option only bet on both teams to score or over 2.5 goals and I prefer both teams to score
Probably the match to look out for this sunday! Liverpool were doing great untill the recent matches where they seemed to be lacking their usual attacking prowess but they are doing great defensively and on the other hand Manchester United who were doing alright defensively but lacked attack for a few games are back with all guns blazing. Should be a good match to watch. I'm not going to bet on this one coz I really dont know what to expect. Could go either ways.
i missed a lot of match to bet after very long time vacation Cheesy ,
i shouldn't missed this one , a historical rivalry between them make the match more excited ,
but as usual in last few years the game always finished with low goal Sad ,
i expect a lot of goals this time like over 3.5 goals maybe?
1667  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: December 28, 2016, 10:48:48 AM
To control greed while gambling, you need to be a sage/holy person. It means you must need an extraordinary power to control your emotions. Again it means you need to be an extraordinary people to make gambling profitable for you.
Lol. But true. If you are not greedy then you need not to try gambling. Yes, mostly people do gamble just to make their quick and money just feed their greediness. I never agree people do gamble for entertaining themselves. They maybe doing for entertainment but always looking for some chances to make some quick and easy money.
You can not say something like that ,
if you are a poker player you will know the feeling of fully enjoyment playing card,
Even without involves money there you can still having fun not for money,
You cannot oversimplify like that buddy.
1668  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 28, 2016, 10:31:11 AM
They will encourage you to keep on gambling because they know that in the end all their gamblers are going to lose. It's up to you if you want to kick yourself and you can do it whether you gamble in real gambling or online gambling.

There actually tons of people that dont really gamble in casino. There are in there for entertainment purposes and they feel happy to see either people win or lose there. Either way it is also the same in online gambling there will be lots of people that dont gambld and yet keep on chatting for hours on the site
Yepp that's true if you are frequently enough gamble in real casino you will know it ,
When you invite your friends to join to a casino they sometimes just drink, follow you and watching the game,
Real gambling has a lot of things to tell rather than online gambling,
I personally love to play poker in real casino, the atmosphere really so exciting.
1669  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: December 28, 2016, 10:06:41 AM
You need big parties to really influence the bitcoin but yes it is possible without any doubts, I do not think that we can do it only with small amounts and some speculations.

Yes, I agree with this, all can be done so long as they can work together and do together, but provided with a number of very, very large, the size of the nominal I think it is very influential and seemed in exchange to do that.

price of anything can be manipulated and the only difference is in the size of the manipulation. and "they" don't have to work together! traders are wise enough to detect these things and also these changes happen on top of the natural changes of price. for example when price is going down they manipulate it by dumping more to push it more down. and same thing when price is going up.
Trading itself actually it is all about manipulating the price,
A game of changing trends by several people who have taken big part,
So yepp bitcoin price can really be manipulated especially if you are on small place or small exchange.
1670  Economy / Speculation / Re: Holy crap heading past $1,000 !!! on: December 27, 2016, 10:35:53 PM
This is two things. Manipulators playing the market and newbies falling for the same scam all over again. Bitcoins fundamentals are still flawed. It doesn't scale and is not anonymous by any means.
Your choice if you want to be stupid and get scammed out of your money by buying into this scam.
You wanna to say that bitcoin is just another mirage?  Lol,
Even though I believe the whole bitcoin supply are really able to be manipulated,
I cannot think when exactly that day will come ,
As long as you have cash enough why you don't give a try on bitcoin long term investment,  isn't it?
1671  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Crash coming on: December 27, 2016, 10:18:58 PM
Bitcoin price are still going strong at the moment, for now it is really hard to predict if it will go down or continue to rise in price
That means we are not crashing but we are going to the moon, hopefully this success will continue so we can be more profitable in the future.
Yup we are going to the moon until an exchange or big holder gets hacked with that wonderful news that crashes the market again. I can't wait for this uptrend to end lol
Behind a high unexpected price there always something to be sacrificed indeed,
We can not avoid there could be a crash after these skyrocketed price recently,
But op predicting exaggerated, seems like a drama I think lol,
Everyone expect the price keep moving up , but ideally there should a crash to raise the price to the highest later.
1672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 27, 2016, 10:05:30 PM
I always make the mistake of going all in! I think that I could get it right when I go all in, it's really hard to win always so I just think of the possibility that I can win big if I bet big and end up losing and also gambling more in order to get back what you lost but still end up losing.
I don't see a problem with going all in, is a valid tactic in poker to bluff or to scare your opponents away if you have a lot more chips than them but also is a way to double or even triple your money if you are able to lure them into thinking they have something better in their hand than you.

Same here, I don't see any problem with it,  I can see it as good strategy to bluff or make a statement against your opponent in poker.  Even in dice, I don't see any problem on it.  Instead it just save you time though it also takes away the series of fun.  Just one time high thrill bet. Well at the end of the day, if you keep going on betting on dice, you will lose anyway.
As gambling game of chance do all in bet are a normal thing I guess,
It is just the matter of choice whether you want to gamble longer Or just in short time?
Allin bet makes you gamble in short time only but with higher return instantly of course,
When if you did not go Allin then you choose to do gamble a little longer but I think the result will be the same in the end.
1673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: December 27, 2016, 09:48:50 PM
I will go straight with Liverpool -1.5 maybe this could be risky bet but at home ground it will get 3 points. Liverpool is not so strong recently but they have no reason to lose this match so I've this bet.
Liverpool really so excited , after see Chelsea keep winning,
And finally they keep the point tight with Chelsea,  Liverpool win 4-1 easily,
They deserve the winning, but the problem are they always conceded goal,
While Chelsea keeping their goal clean! Top 3 are so interesting,  next match Liverpool vs Manchester City
1674  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Soccer Transfer Market 2016/2017 ! on: December 27, 2016, 12:58:54 PM
Oscar(25 years old! ) officially goes to Shanghai SIPG.  Chelsea go to 60M of $!

I don't understand how a player so young decides to go play in a low-level league.
Thats not a new thing, there are Sebastian Giovinco, Graziano Pelle, Hulk, Jackson Ramirez, Demba Ba, and Ramires who actually still deserves to play in european competition but chose MLS and Chinese Super League team. Yeah I know Oscar is younger than them, but the point is money. Football player is a profession, and we cant blame him if he prefer money. About who will be the new player of Chelsea, I think Conte will bring new defender.
money change everything nowadays include in football ,
since oscar is still have a future to play in europe competition for 5 to 8 years ,
i think there is a big chance for him to make a comeback ,
of course after he making money in china with easier football league.

But one thing is very embarrassing from this move is that he said that playing in the Chinese league is his dream since childhood. He said not move  for money. I'm not sure there are people of Brazil, a Brazilian football player who dreamed of playing in the League of China, is very unreasonable. And if he confessed that he moved because the money was the world will understand. Because right now football is a profession, a source for the money. So it is normal that a player chose to move because it received an offer higher salaries. Not to speak are like that.
where are you hear about that statement? it is ridiculous ,
chinese are treating on how to enjoy the real football nowadays ,
they are now play for money not for something that they really love ,
i hope this kind transfer not keep going, someone should do something.
1675  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you use Cashback or bonuses? on: December 27, 2016, 12:42:10 PM
When I am going to gamble with the site for the first time then of course I prefer to use the giveaways/bonuses. But for those sites that I've been using for so many times, I always go for a cashback. Cashback is guaranteed that you will able to recover some portion of your losses but it doesn't mean that you are going to keep on losing with your money.
lol giveaway chaser *nooffense , honestly i hate this kind players ,
usually they just abusing the giveaways or bonuses due they are greedy ,
i don't want to accept both cashback and bonus offered (don't want to fall into something bad for twice, it is wasting time) ,
i prefer just to gambler normally , no bonuses or something.
1676  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: December 27, 2016, 12:27:50 PM
my passive income is from the website of debt receivable bitcoin on btcjam site, every month I get interest rate about 2% so greater than bank interest.
I also have some blog sites about lifestyle and sports, some of them I attach ads from bitmedia and a-ads (bitcoin). I've ever been earning 0.004 btc per day from a-ads, because my sites ever get 12 thousand visitors per day and it is a very lucrative passive income for me
In fact besides using blog, you can also use youtube to earn profit from ads, you can create an interesting video and upload it to youtube and you can earn passive income from ads by your video
it is an easy job right ?
actually you guys can consider bitcoin long term investment as a passive income too ,
if you have bought bitcoin last year when the price below $500 ,
you have a passive income during the last 1 year ,
100 bitcoin bought worth $450 each and now become worth $900 each, means you got $45,000 from a passive income.
1677  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat ? on: December 27, 2016, 12:21:58 PM
Bitcoin is easy to use and transfer to buy online. it's no fee and no tax and it's anomynous.
Payment online is very fast and safer than fiat.

that is correct , but common people did not feel about that things ,
they just consider bitcoin as the biggest illusion in getting profit through investment ,
only few can really feel a lot of advantages using bitcoin ,
however bitcoin are not friendly yet to be used in the daily life.
1678  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: December 27, 2016, 12:03:02 PM
I wouldn't recommend you to gamble for profit as you will always end up losing.

Gambling should be a fun hobby that you do for excitement,not a thing that you do to earn money.

If you keep gambling for excitement and not for profit, you won't find yourself at a situation that you lost more money then you planned.

you think f you gamble for fun will not make you ended up losing?
of course not , you know that too isn't it?
no matter you gamble for fun or profit , you will still have a bigger chance to lost than win ,
the only way to make you avoid all of this is just quit from gambling forever or take a risk and gamble responsibly.
1679  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: December 27, 2016, 11:52:16 AM
In many ways, Yes it is. Way better than Paypal. The main advantage is that Bitcoin is not a company as Paypal is. Paypal does whatever it wants, takes a lot of fees, chargeback process is hectic and service is pathetic. Angry
but then why a lot of merchants adopt paypal rather than bitcoin?
okay it is just the matte of time that paypal older than bitcoin ,
but can you see a good thing happened in bitcoin development recently?
i don't think so , there is a very slow development for merchants to accept bitcoin, how can you say bitcoin better than paypal now?
1680  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: December 27, 2016, 11:45:16 AM
No. That would be kinda stupid to say so. Even if it reached the price of 1 000 000$ per bitcoin, why would it be worthless ? There will always be central banks, like there will always be fiat money, because bitcoin is not suited to the will of the finance world. You can't manipulate it, you can't increase the supply... This is a deflationary currency, and by this uniqueness, it can't overthrown the fiat money.
i even think that bitcoin the only thing can be worthless in the future ,
people are too optimistic and make a speculation like this ,
i don't think this scenario can heppened not now or later ,
bitcoin are a strange stuff while fiat have been established for hundred years.
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