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16661  Economy / Speculation / Re: The $GBTC Wall Observer on: May 08, 2015, 09:20:10 PM
Why would one buy a BTC for $490, when the price on US-regulated exchanges is $244?

The answer to this question is simple.  The only advantage in buying this fund over buying BTC straight is the ability to purchase in your tax shielded accounts.  Therefore, the logical explanation is that people are paying a premium to get exposure to tax free BTC gains.  If you believe the price is headed to $10,000, you would much rather purchase at $500 without tax liabilities than to purchase at $250 with tax liabilities.  That is the only logical explanation for the premium we are seeing.
16662  Economy / Gambling / Re: [POLL] What would get you to play NastyKeno? on: May 08, 2015, 08:02:47 PM
Your feedback has been heard and soon TheAnalogKid will be updating the website with some new features as well as extending his promotion.  The new promotion will be less generous (50% refunds for the first 15 incorrect predictions and instant predictions will be excluded from the promotion) but there will be an emphasis on continuing a sustainable promotion long term going forward.  There will also be an added instant predictions section.  You will be able to check and see whether you are a winner as soon as your prediction transaction is included in a block.  Payouts will happen multiple times daily to save on transaction fees.  There is also a new free games section for those of you who may feel the 0.01 BTC minimum prediction is too high and the Keno game alone isn't exciting enough.  Keep your eye out for this update later today and thanks to those of you who have played so far!  Keep the feedback coming.
16663  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ◢◤ NastyKeno ◢◤ | BETA PROMOTION! (0.45 BTC LEFT) on: May 08, 2015, 07:40:25 PM
The winning prediction this week is: 2
https://blockchain.info/block-index/866021

There were 2 correct predictions with 0.08 BTC in winnings!
https://blockchain.info/tx/3c5544c144c9100997857105d65691821b4ab1ed5a3b10aaab1f0b6d648853d6
16664  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTS] 5oz .999 Silver NastyFans Minted Seats on: May 08, 2015, 05:43:34 PM
UPDATE:
I have signed off on the final mock-ups and the rounds have entered production.  I'm told to expect delivery by the end of the month.
16665  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans.org] NASTY MINING | POOL | COINS on: May 08, 2015, 03:53:45 PM
OG,
Just wondering how we are doing with the 5 oz coins..

Sorry, I haven't been ignoring you.  I wanted to wait until I received a new communication from the mint.  This morning they said that I should have the coins in 3 weeks.  That is a positive sign.  I've approved all the mock-ups and I don't think there's anything left to do at this point but wait.
16666  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]✺❇✺❇MTR❇✺❇MasterTraderCoin❇✺❇120K❇✺❇TOSHIDESK LLC❇✺❇BETA NOW LIVE!❇✺❇USA❇✺❇ on: May 08, 2015, 02:21:40 AM
Sign up for Early Beta Access to ToshiDesk - www.ToshiDesk.com/beta

NOTE: Must be phase 1 or 2 investor, or own 600+ MTR to Qualify.



What about a phase 1 or 2 escrow agent?   Tongue
16667  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: On the Clothing of Emperors: A Rant about 21.co and the Future of Bitcoin Mining on: May 08, 2015, 01:05:22 AM
My guess for what they could be up to is a TOR enabled router.  I think if they could squeeze 300GH/s @ <90 watts out of it, the devices would pay for themselves quickly (your assumed revenue seems low).  It could be marketed as some sort of security and privacy device, where the owner would think of the extra electricity costs they will be required to pay as a service charge of sorts.  Depending on the setup of the node, TOR users could get behind it in a big way, especially if 10% of the mined coins were donated to the TOR Project.  This would be much more likely to be adopted than a new water heater in my opinion.

With a broadly available power cost of $0.02 / kw-hr, why do you think that the revenue would be higher (than what I speculate) in the long-run?

Re: hot water heater, yeah, I agree.

The power cost is irrelevant.  The company manufacturing the devices wouldn't be paying the power, so as long as the product is worth it to run for the customer providing the power, it is a non-factor.  Your revenue expectation is way below anything we've seen historically.

I thought your arguments were good, but your numbers are way off.
16668  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: On the Clothing of Emperors: A Rant about 21.co and the Future of Bitcoin Mining on: May 07, 2015, 07:28:28 PM
My guess for what they could be up to is a TOR enabled router.  I think if they could squeeze 300GH/s @ <90 watts out of it, the devices would pay for themselves quickly (your assumed revenue seems low).  It could be marketed as some sort of security and privacy device, where the owner would think of the extra electricity costs they will be required to pay as a service charge of sorts.  Depending on the setup of the node, TOR users could get behind it in a big way, especially if 10% of the mined coins were donated to the TOR Project.  This would be much more likely to be adopted than a new water heater in my opinion.
16669  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTS] $15.01 Best Buy Gift Code on: May 07, 2015, 05:39:16 PM
$15 Best Buy gift code for sale.  Asking 0.05 BTC.  Not interested in negotiating.  PM to purchase.

Very interested please email cashforyou11@yahoo.com

No.  A deal can be reached through this forum very simply.  Just send me a PM.

EDIT: SOLD!
16670  Economy / Speculation / Re: Some good action brewing in the GBTC again! on: May 07, 2015, 05:33:38 PM
It doesn't do much for the fund owner's reputation that they are allowing this overvalued trading to happen.  They should dump every share they can at above market price and use the excess funds to increase the holdings of the fund.  The fact they are instead slowly leaking shares on the market at a huge inflated price makes it seem like they're taking advantage of ignorant investors to make a few bucks.  I'll wait for COIN before throwing my $ down the rabbit hole.  GBTC is clearly not a good investment option.

Maybe they have given themselves rules to not trade against customers in their own shop.

Sure, I can see them making rules to sell their shares at >400% markup instead of fair market price.  Whatever justifies ripping people off I guess.

I think choosing to let shares float at such overinflated prices as opposed to selling more shares to bring the price back in line means that insiders are cashing out before the great fall to fair value.  It also shows they lack faith in their ability to grow the fund honestly and make their $ from management fees, and instead are using the low volume and lack of able sellers to manipulate prices in order to cash out more than their shares are worth.  I would avoid this fund at all costs, and if COIN is operated in a similar manner, I would recommend avoiding that as well.
16671  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Connection: Marc Karpeles --> Silkroad on: May 07, 2015, 04:07:28 PM
What would happen if it came out that the "stolen" mtgox coins are the very same coins that the DEA confiscated from Silk Road? Would the government have to pay back mtgox creditors for stealing and auctioning off their coins?
16672  Other / Meta / Imposter Warning for Newbies! (thank you) on: May 07, 2015, 03:04:37 AM
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!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!


I just wanted to say thank you for whoever put in this warning when getting PMs from newbies.  I've noticed an uptick in people trying to scam those accepting my escrow services by impersonating me and asking for BTC.  I believe this warning will stop those scammers dead in their tracks, and I just wanted to say thank you to whoever is responsible. 

I'll admit I have been a bit frustrated in the past by the lack of moderation when it comes to scammers, but this really is a great feature that I think will save people from losing their coins.  Thanks!
16673  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: SOLD on: May 06, 2015, 04:56:19 PM
Just updating... This turned out to be a poor scam attempt as suspected. Always be careful and use a trusted escrow agent.
16674  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Mining farm liquidation! - group sale with ▬► BIG discount!◄▬ on: May 06, 2015, 04:52:04 PM
I'd happily provide escrow for this. An equipment sale this big using an unproven escrow is a big red flag. Granted I don't know who the escrow agent is he suggested, but please be careful.
16675  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any new dice websites? on: May 05, 2015, 04:20:42 PM
Anyone know of good Bitcoin dice sites, preferably new so i can invest?

Dont invest in new site! They will take your money and run once enough money is invested in the site! Just like CryptoCoindice.com

Not all new sites will take your money and run. Depends on who is operating it too, you should look into that.

I would say that the operator is the most important part.  If you're sending BTC to any address and you don't know who owns the address or their reputation, you are begging to never see your coins again.
16676  Economy / Speculation / Re: Some good action brewing in the GBTC again! on: May 05, 2015, 04:08:48 PM
It doesn't do much for the fund owner's reputation that they are allowing this overvalued trading to happen.  They should dump every share they can at above market price and use the excess funds to increase the holdings of the fund.  The fact they are instead slowly leaking shares on the market at a huge inflated price makes it seem like they're taking advantage of ignorant investors to make a few bucks.  I'll wait for COIN before throwing my $ down the rabbit hole.  GBTC is clearly not a good investment option.
16677  Economy / Gambling / Re: [POLL] What would get you to play NastyKeno? on: May 05, 2015, 02:42:36 PM
The game is based on the TX ID for the weekly distribution of the nasty mining pool, the address of 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL is the payout address for the pool and since it is distributed weekly it makes the game less favorable as people need to wait for a whole week just to know the result
Thank you arallmuus for explaining it well.I did not know before what this game is about.The shorter the duration of game will be the more popular it will be. Admin need to make some changes as you mentioned above, I am agreed with you.

Thanks.  It seems that a more frequent prediction option is something that is wanted by most, and I will see about making that happen soon.


The promotions are always good but i dont understand how can you have better odds? In the better odds option, i mean how can you raise the odds?

It could offer higher odds, for example, instead of paying out 10:1 for a correct single character predictions, it could pay out 12:1.  It doesn't seem like this is the stumbling block for potential users though as it seems people would prefer more promotions over higher odds.


One free BTC to new users, with no deposit requirement and no withdrawal restrictions harsher than "you must gamble at least BTC1 to withdraw." Tongue

Also, wife checks browser history, so "nasty" has always been a deterrent. Why not OgKeno? Makes you sound more like an arrogant Chinese kid serious Bitcoin businessman.

There are no withdrawals or deposits or accounts of any kind on the site, only placing predictions, and the prediction amount is 0.01 BTC, not 1 BTC.  I don't mind how the name Nasty makes me sound either.  My reputation is not a concern I have.  Addressing your question though, this isn't OgKeno because it is a game run on behalf of NastyFans, not myself.  If I was hosting the site and keeping the profits, maybe OgKeno would be appropriate, but I am not doing either.
16678  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Selling 2x BRAND NEW Spondoolies SP30 Yukon(september release) CHEAP $3250 for 2 on: May 05, 2015, 04:45:33 AM
He asked me for upfront payment. Most likely a scam.

Agreed. Since a deal has been reached though, it is in his court to deliver and prove otherwise.
16679  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Selling 2x BRAND NEW Spondoolies SP30 Yukon(september release) CHEAP $3250 for 2 on: May 05, 2015, 04:43:32 AM
These are no longer for sale. I'll let everyone know if OP delivers.
16680  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 2x Brand new Spondoolies sp30 4.5 t/s $3000 for both on: May 05, 2015, 04:41:52 AM
These are no longer for sale. I'll let everyone know how the purchase went.
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