Bitcoins cannot be withdrawn either.

Is there anything at all that CAN be withdrawn?

-MarkM-

Well Bitcoins cannot be withdrawn, now apparently TAG cannot be withdrawn.

So what the heck, if anything, CAN be withdrawn?

-MarkM-

Cool. I wondered what they even meant by deprecated, maybe they just meant they themselves didn't happen to like it.

-MarkM-

Is there ANYTHING that CAN be withdrawn from BTER ?

-MarkM-

I happened across a discussion of forum software in another thread, and in this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=317408.msg4248328#msg4248328

they say SM is deprecated; I think they mean Simple Machines forum, so thought I should mention that here as one of our outstanding bounties also mentions simple machines forum so I am wondering why it is deprecated and why, if it is deprecated, we would be insisting upon it in one of our bounties.

-MarkM-

No, that is what is broken: it does not even show any of my sell orders in the list of active orders, just a few of my buy orders.

Basically it looks like it maybe only shows a few of your orders, maybe just the last few that you placed, whereas of course typically the ones you need to cancel tend to be the oldest ones.

For example I need to cancel my highest highball sell offer to place a lower low sell offer.

But none of my sell offers are shown on the active orders list at all, only buy offers, because after I had placed all my original sell orders starting way way up high highball offer and stepping down down down down in steps all the way to near where the sells meet the buys, I then went through the buy side placing buy orders all the way from outrageously lowball up and up and up in steps to near where buys and sells meet.

Only those last few orders, the last few buy orders as it happens, are shown in the active orders list.

Meanwhile although a bunch of the lowest price sell orders did get accepted by buyers, the active trading price-range has moved back down somewhat so I now need to move some highball sell offers down toward the active zone but none of them are shown on the active orders list so none of them can currently be cancelled.

-MarkM-

A program is basically a drama, play or screenplay, or maybe choreography: a set of instructions directing actions / movements / activities, albeit the instructions themselves often can be in static form.

-MarkM-

I think the bottom line was they had code, not just a bunch of scamware / vapourware.

Pirateat40 might have been the record in the doesn't actually have a real product category, maybe?

-MarkM-

Just in case you were not aware of it, the ticker symbol CDN is already taken (Canadian Digital Notes). So I am curious what symbol this one will use.

http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html

-MarkM-

Well here is another suggestion then:

When something is that excruciatingly non-open-source, how about we have a policy of surrounding it with scaffolding that kind of makes it somewhat more source-ish?

For example instead of just a bunch of soundtracks that someone played on proprietary instruments or with physical instruments that we do not have how to build plans and instructions for let alone 3D-printer files or computerised-woodworking instructions for and such, lets try to turn it into some kind of useful source as much as possible.

A really simple start toward that, a really simple idea toward it, would be to accompany it with a bunch of keywords hints or somesuch, so that when for example a screenplay says "Outdoors, English topiary garden, behind a manor house; the sky is overcast, the background music is sombre" one could at least look up "sombre" among the soundtracks to get a list of soundtracks that might fit that scene?

It would at least be a start. Right now Battle For Wesnoth for example still defaults, I think, to just rotating through its available soundtracks. Campaign and scenario developers can specify specific tracks to rotate among, or set one specific track for a scenario, but there is no general mood kind of indication you can give instead and that most probably is because there is not yet any library of free open source soundtracks categorised by mood so right now having in the code an instruction as to what mood of mood-music should be used wouldn't do anything.

Actually that could even go beyond one's library of free open source music, as music player software nowadays tends to have the ability to keep lists of people's music collections for them. If we had free open source mood music with usable categories/moods that software could invoke, maybe eventually that would lead to proprietary collections also adding the hooks to make their music also be available to such software in the event the user is a subscriber to their collection, and on like that.

Similarly for images: do we have an English topiary garden image? How about at least either an English garden or a topiary garden? How about a manor house? Can we put garden and manor house together? Or maybe we have an image that already has them put together? Etc.

Carrying it further there could be notes characterising it in more ways, not just mood but even down to details of performer / performance. So screenplays could have instructions such as "a terribly bad violinist is heard from the other room; Watson closes the door and continues writing his case-notes", or "a brilliant virtuoso is playing an intricate melody across the river" or "a trio is..." or whatever.

-MarkM-

The tracks is good though. Also the scores, midi files etc, so people can change which instruments are used, use which tracks they want, run some tracks through sound effect filters if they want and so on.

Also apparently some music is put together from notes samples, so having the source to know which notes of which instruments are used would allow using a different library of notes, especially if the original used proprietary samples of notes.

Free open source such libraries are needed too though as apparently some musicians use proprietary/restricted libraries of notes partly because they do not know of any similar libraries that have less-restrictive licenses.

With graphics some artists claim they are forced to use photoshop because none of the free open source graphics programs have the function(s) they need; getting the functions added to free open source paint/draw/etc programs ought to be something DeVCoin could aspire to eventually get done.

And so on.

Also, coders build programs in their minds too, and hacking blindly at their code similarly might not always result in better programs. But the point is you can see exactly what they did and you can change it, even if that has bad results you can learn from that maybe some of why they did it the way they did, or learn yet another thing not do do etc. Coding is an art too.

-MarkM-

You modified it?

Oh great just what we need, a home-made made-up crypto algorithm.

Didn't they have a don't do this at home label on the damn thing?

Please everyone avoid the damn thing until real cryptographers have had a few years to thoroughly look it over like they probably did with the real Blake that this guy claims to have hacked up somehow.

-MarkM-

Novacoin changes stuff around, they think nothing of screwing around with interest rates for example, setting them nice and high knowing their cronies won't object as long as they plan to change them back low again once they and their cronies have gained lots from the high interest.

Gosh knows what other screwing around they might decide at any moment to do.

-MarkM-

Probably he raised the limit higher than 100 but forgot to change the error message saying more than 100.

I have many hundreds, he might have raised the limit to 500 or 1000 and I'd still already be over it...

-MarkM-

How many GPUs does Quark have defending it?

Or can it not be defended with GPUs at all?

-MarkM-

Research "51% attack" aka "50+ % attack".

A meme conjured up over-night enough hash-power to PWN any scrypt coin other than Litecoin.

In other words, basically all the scrypt coins other than litecoin are garbage, train wrecks waiting to happen, piles of "other people's money" waiting patiently for some "lets rob the bank" meme or whatever to pop up overnight and PWN them.

It is criminally irresponsible, criminal negligence, malice aforethought or some such to even consider urging anyone to throw away their money on such crap, a total deliberate scam, deliberately bilking people out of money for known scams.

Note, for scrypt read GPU, since any GPU-mine-able coin other than litecoin is likely so low in number of dedicated GPUs defending it that not being specifically scrypt probably makes no difference, overnight enough GPUs could be raised just by a stupid meme to PWN any of them.

-MarkM-

Huh? I thought Cryptsy was the most massive scam-of-the-day exchange of all?

Isn't that the whole point of Cryptsy, that every scam and its dog(e) is on there?

And being really fast to add new scams is just means being one of the fastest at listing the new scams.

Try maybe an exchange that actually waits to see whether a coin burns out, whether it consistently has more than half the hash power or just keeps ending up with less than half and even maybe less than the latest scam of the day, stuff like that.

Consider Feathercoin and Worldcoin for example, they have less than half the scrypt hashpower, plus have so pathetically little of the scrypt hashpower that a new coin out of the blue (DOGE) had way more hashpower than either of them maybe even more than both of them added together. In other words both of them are patheticly insecure garbage that could be PWNed any time just  by an internet meme. This time the meme said mine DOGE instead of saying PWN such and such a crapcoin, but any coin that has so little hashpower than a meme can overnight raise more hashpower than it has is a train wreck waiting to happen, thus either a scam or criminal negligence or some such (it is criminally irresponsible to encourage people to waste their money on garbage that can be wiped out any time just by a meme...)

I don't know of any responsible exchanges, really, since even VIrcurex has so far failed to list those two garbage coins even when it listed the meme (DOGE) that showed up just how uselessly pathetic / vulnerable they (Worldcoin and Feathercoin) actually are.

It should have de-listed them, and maybe not even bothered listing DOGE even though DOGE provided the proof the other two were PWN-waiting-to-happen garbage.

-MarkM-

I tried it, trying to spread 1000 I0Coins across 4401 satoshis through 4500 satoshis, but...

The API does have a limit of 100 open orders, it seems. I already have many hundred so the script was unable to place even a single order.

So to do this is going to require either doing it in the browser with some kind of browser-automation toolkit or plug-in, or waiting for VIrcurex to add it to the site itself (or to get rid of the limit on open orders in the API).

A couple of things I noticed:

- You spelt Satoshi(s) wrong.

- It claimed the 100 orders limit caused the order to fail to release, so I looked on the website in case that meant it had managed to queue them up waiting for release, figuring if so I could release them manually in the website. But they were not sitting there un-released waiting for me to release them. So maybe saying the order failed to release due to the 100 limit is not really quite right, since it seems to have failed to queue it up waiting for release not merely failed to release it?

- It was trying to place orders for slightly less than ten, so it was somehow failing to divide 1000 by 100 and arrive at 10, instead it was 9.99999990 .

-MarkM-

One "quality mark" already exists:

Has the coin been listed on a serious, responsible exchange or only on the scam-of-the-day exchanges that regularly add all the latest scams to their listings?

-MarkM-

What concept?

So far there is no concept to it beyond send money and maybe when I am rich I might choose to hire someone to look into making something, but probably since I am anonymous it will be simpler to just run with the money, especially when you bear in mind there are people out there with actual real plans and ideas who are likely to come up with something real, though I guess maybe when they do we can clone it or something...

-MarkM-