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I think any solution besides option one is no solution at all. We need a change now and if it is only to stop this spamming. The spam attacks already made enough damage to bitcoin since it's hard to explain to newbies why their transactions doesn't get confirmed.
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Hello I'm pretty new to the Bitcoin scene. I decided to get involved after realizing that I could mine without worries of an electricity bill. So my question is for a person I my situation just starting and not having an excess of money what hardware/software would I need to get set up. I browsed multiple sites online and they all point to having some expensive hardware specifically designed for mining bitcoins. My limitation at this point is funds. So how would I start out and work my way up? Thank you for your time and consideration.
Nobody has free internet. Maybe you are a child living with your parents... then your parents will find out and be unhappy. Maybe you are a student. Then your high power consumption will be find out and you will lose your flat. Maybe you live in a country where it's usual to steal power. Then chances are that the power company is investigating where all the power is vanishing. |
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wars and battles were never about money..
its about the idiots in control who order people to fight other people for natural resources
So then what are wars about then when not about money? Why do you think these iditos create wars for natural ressources? It is because of money. Everytime. Even the IS started as a gang of thugs with religious painting so they could attract followers. They still do so but in reality they are a business. I have heard you even can invest in them and take part in rewards coming from their cruel deeds. I don't know where i have read that anymore though. |
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Mostly no reason beside fear and greed. People act on news like currency problems in a certain country or on bad things like exchanges hacked. But mostly it simply moves how it wants. Relatively unpredictable.
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I can't believe how amateurish the persons behind blockchain.info are. I mean they have this great domain name and a really old and established project that many are using. But then they go ahead and do so many errors that it is not funny anymore.
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I think you are correct.
Since Edward Snowden we know that the NSA practically controls and observes any internet connection. They have their fingers on many ISP's and on each internet cable. So they have an easy time to find out who connects to nodes. At the same time they can read when you propagate a transaction. As far as i know transactions aren't encrypted, but even when, the NSA only would need to run a node to encrypt it.
Before the NSA you are an open book. And when they would want they could hack your computer, in most times they only need to click a button to hack you automatically, and freeze your funds.
I think the NSA is happy about bitcoin. When terror is using it more they will have an easier time.
Of course, when you use Tor or something then it is not so easy. But then... did you post one of your addresse? Already they can connect some dots.
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Nice. Australia becomes more and more attractive as a immigration country i guess. An alternaive once im rich enough.  |
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To be honest i had to think first what this graphic should show. I thought maybe it's an advertisement for a new service, then i read the text under the image and thought it has to show why bitcoin is good. But then i couldn't see what it has to do with TV and so.
Only after that i saw that these are three different development lines.
I think if possible that should be seen instantly. It's not so good when you first have to see all small images and have to relate them together to find out what the big picture is about.
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And what about investing in suspicious sites? I mean those offering high rates for depositing your bitcoins .... it's risky, but perhaps diversifying and selling out before the crash, you can get some BTC.
What do you say? That is simply stupid. What is the sense in getting some BTC when your main investment vanishes on the way. You invest 10 Bitcoins, get some 0.001 BTC and when you are at 0.01BTC profit then your investment is gone. Thats how most bitcoin investments happen to end. Well, not always. I know right now of two sites that let you deposit, offer a 1.8-3.6% daily, and let you withdraw your deposits (with a fee though). It is VERY RISKY I agree, but you can deposit, get earnings for say 5 days, and then withdraw your deposits. Even with a fee, you still earn some revenue from those days. I have done it already, and in more than one site. Of course, you can get caught with your money in when the site collapses. Of course it is risky. But you are assuming your main investment "vanish" that is simply not true of all sites. And that is what I am referring too. It is not just blindly putting a large sum in one of those sites. You do your research: Does this site allow to get back my investment? What are the fees? How many days is my money "on risk" with the actual ROI? What is the minimum investment? You do not even have to risk that much. Most of those sites I use, I have tried them before with small amounts (100.000 or even 10.000 satoshis). The interest is so high in some, that with 5-7 days of fauceting or posting in zapchain and investing those earnings, you are getting 3 or 4 cents in satoshis while the site stands. Sum some sites like that and well... you wont get rich, but it is better than just a simple fauceting strategy. I do not mean to get 5 BTC and investing blindly on a random site, but a different approach. Although I agree it is still risky. So what you invest in are ponzies. Fully aware of that these sites are created to give the admin the possibility to steal money? I knew a guy like you some years ago. He claimed he can earn money with that. At the end he invested and ponzis did not turn out how he awaited. The ponzis simply closed too fast. You know that this happens. Some never pay out anything, some pay out small fry but stop payments when too many demand too much. When you know that these projects are designed to steal then still investing and trying to get a little bit out of it before it goes down is very risky. I can promise you that you will lose. I simply saw that too often. Maybe you were lucky till now that you got in early and out but i ensure you that this won't work forever. |
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Thank you for the payment. I'll give you trust today.  |
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Are reflinks possible in the signature?
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I read this and it is not something I would like I could do. It turns out you need to have to be connected to their own WiFi Network:
"Every person that buys internet using Bitcoin connects to a BitMesh Wi-Fi connection close to them, which is provided by a client and functions by using the BitMesh app."
I don't think It will be available in many places. It is more like a test project which probably will never be developed at a larger scale.
I believe it doesn't mean that you need to connect to their Wi-Fi in order to earn bitcoins from them. It means that they want to establish a network of wifis around the world that can be used by other persons. Those persons pay in bitcoins and they buy "internets". Whatever that is.  That means you can only earn money when someone buys and uses your wifi then. Which, for the most persons, would mean you earn never. I mean how far is your wifi reaching? And how many people in that circle would know this project and would pay? |
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Yes,
Signature Campaign can Earn Better Money Don't Expect to Earn More Money From Signature Campaign You Just Make an Better Money and From trading You Can Have a Chance to Earn Huge Money.
Or a big chance to loose what you have invested. Trading with alts or Bitcoin assumes you know what you do. And I know a lot of guys here who tried and lost. My advice is just do what you know about.Don't experiment! If you never traded before then don't do it. Too many sharks out there. I would safe some of money which I earn in daily life and then just buy some coins. If you have skills in programming, web design etc offer some services and let you pay in Bitcoin. Check out your garage and maybe you find some old nice stuff which you can offer in a garage sale or peddlers market. Trading between btc/usd market isn't a big problem. Everyone can do so. It's just simple buy low and sell high. Big deal is that when people see prices falling, they panic sell their coins to cut the losses. This is a wrong approach, as when the prices fall we should buy more to get more profit. So you would buy now when it's crashing? Your statement is misleading. Trading is anything but easy. But you let it sound that way. I hope no newbie believes you and loses his coins. Of course everyone can do it, but only few can do it successfully. Otherwise i would pay you for trading points. Though i doubt somehow you know that good enough. |
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I like that quote: I'm not as connected as some people are to the reddits and githubs and IRC rooms where a lot of the bigwigs talk about this stuff. Does anyone know if consensus is anywhere close on this block size increase issue? It doesn't seem off topic here to ask given the direct relation between the attacks/tests and the potential increase. I know the debate has been rancorous, I wonder if anyone has a gauge on where we stand at the moment on this.
No sign of consensus as of yesterday. The "old devs" (Gavin, Mike Hearn, Jeff Garzik) want to increase the limit before the traffic gets close to saturation. The "new devs" (Adam Back, Greg Maxwell, Peter Wuille, Luke-Jr, and others -- most of them working for Blockstream Inc) want instead to see the network saturate so that a "fee market" develops. Since it is a discrete (binary, boolean) choice, no compromise is possible. Gavin backed down from his original 20 MB proposal to 8 MB, starting early next year, with automatic increases afterwards. Jeff proposed a "compromise" plan with 2 MB blocks. Peter Wuillie made a counter-proposal to increase the limit only in 2017 -- that is, no compromise. I don't trust either sides. Gavin has some behaviour of extortion i don't like. And Hearn has dangerous ideas. But Maxwell, Luke-Jr and others have their own private business reasons to not increase blocks. Thats like politicians that work for banks or big companies. You can't await them making sane decisions. For me that means that we need to do it ourself. We need bigger blocks since that's the only way to let bitcoin survive. 1MB blocks will hinder adoption and will make bitcoin obsolete over time. So we need to chose bigger blocks when we can chose to. And deny all other crap developers want to push onto us. |
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Bitcoin doesn't scale so why act like raising the block size would change anything?
Wrong. While it may not be done efficiently, Bitcoin does scale. Similar things would apply to video quality. Just because a raw 4K movie easily takes up more than 100GB of space, that doesn't mean that we won't be using. People have complained about storage, but that will soon be solved with pruning being fully implemented (now it is only partially). If we assume (assuming that they are full) that we have only 10MB blocks (which should be enough for some time), that's only 1,440MB of bandwidth per day (which is less than what I spend just using Chrome in a single day). Current pruning requires one to keep the last 255 blocks which means only 2.55 GB of storage would be needed (I'm pretty sure that everyone has this). Now if we factor in the potential of the lightning network and sidechains, it is going to scale much better. However, these things need time as we are surfing in unexplored waters. Yes Bitcoin might be able to scale in the future with the help of lightning network and other tools. So why the urgent need for a hard fork when it doesn't solve anything? You said it. "these things need time". So why not wait for lightning network to be operational before we go ahead with a dangerous fork? So we need to wait for a third party network to make bitcoin work. Seriously? Really... its no wonder that so many bitcoiners think that the lightning network bitcoin core developers have their own agenda in this. And what dangerous fork? Are you spreading FUD here? |
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Bitcoin doesn't scale so why act like raising the block size would change anything?
Um... it would make these spam attacks stop instantly at least. These spammers might be very well miners, a corporation of them maybe, and they seem to test out the best way to raise the fees permanently that way. At the moment they try to spam often so that nobody knows if he has to take a high fee or not. Raising the fee overall to prevent risk at the end. I don't know where you got the idea from that bitcoin doesn't scale. The max block size is arbitrary from the start. Im not sure what you speak about. |
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I don't understand why you didn't use the kraken claim way. If i would have much money on gox i would, for sure, run behind and search how to do it.
The trustee even made the deadline longer one time. You had all time of the world. That you didn't care enough might be your punishment. I can't really get myself to feel pity for you.
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ppl who actually reply to answer the OP is more stupid than they think he is.
- snip - Next time just report to MOD and DONT REPLY.
That only works if you know for certain that the mod will delete the OP. Instead, I prefer to report to MOD and reply warning gullible fools. If a MOD deletes the OP, they'll delete my post too. If a MOD doesn't delete the OP, then at least the really gullible will have some warning. In this case, others had already warned about the fact that the video was a trap, but they were all responding as if they thought that the OP was actually looking for an answer. I figured I'd just let point out that they most likely weren't. That's the best way to handle things. And yes... these ponzi scammers seem to have it standard somehow to start with sockpuppet accounts asking if something is legit. Then another newbie comes and claiming he was paid. Maybe even states problems that then get solves. It's somewhat sophisticated. Easy to convince a newbie that way. So warnings are needed. |
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I prefer a currency being based on trust in people than in a government. Bitcoins value comes from trust in other bitcoiners. And the more bitcoin gets into the normal economy the more stable it will become. Which means bitcoin being a world currency would make it practically impossible that the bitcoin value crashes. It would all be one and there would no relation that could make it crash.
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I think you might have bad english. Can it be that you want to know how to earn money from signature campaigns? And not how to create a signature? If the first, check out this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.new;topicseen#newIf the last, check out the thread too, but go into the campaign threads and see the signature codes there. You can learn how to create them there. |
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