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16801  Economy / Securities / Re: Evaluating Havelock securities performances on: July 03, 2014, 07:06:18 PM
your creative accounting

You mean the same accounting that is used by every single financial regulatory agency in the world?


Thanks for the reminding to never underestimate the stupidity of others  Cheesy

Be careful, ignorance is bliss.  Don't put down your kool-aid.
16802  Economy / Securities / Re: Evaluating Havelock securities performances on: July 03, 2014, 06:54:17 PM
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Try to explain your accounting exclusively in Bitcoin over a period of time to any real life businessman and you will be ridiculed for life ...

How about this:

If I give you 1 BTC exactly a year ago, I get substantially fewer dollars than if I kept that 1 BTC in a paper wallet?  Is that clear enough?  

So if I gave you back more dollars, would you have earned money?

If giving you my coin got me cost me dollars (as opposed to simply keeping my coin), of course I lost money by giving it to you.  This is basic.

Me no thinks you understand transfer protocol very well.  Let me splain...



If someone uses a transfer protocol to send $5, then gets back $20 using the same transfer protocol, that is calling making money.  What you are doing is moving 0's and 1's around and claiming that you are making or losing fortunes...  Let me make this perfectly clear to you...  When making an investment in Bitcoin, cheese, goats, gold, intellectual property, don't count your chickens before they hatch.  You didn't make or lose money until you realized that gain or loss by moving back into dollars, hence why you are taxed at that time and not as your investment is performing.  You're screaming that everyone who has sold a goat has lost a fortune because the price of goats has gone up so much, which is not true.  Nobody has ever lost a fortune from selling a goat.
16803  Economy / Securities / Re: Evaluating Havelock securities performances on: July 03, 2014, 06:36:45 PM
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Try to explain your accounting exclusively in Bitcoin over a period of time to any real life businessman and you will be ridiculed for life ...

How about this:

If I give you 1 BTC exactly a year ago, I get substantially fewer dollars than if I kept that 1 BTC in a paper wallet?  Is that clear enough? 

So if I gave you back more dollars, would you have earned money?
16804  Economy / Securities / Re: Can someone explain the value-add of the Winklevoss ETF? on: July 03, 2014, 06:35:00 PM
1 - How does this add value over Coinbase?

Scooping up Bitcoin in a Roth-IRA for tax free gains =  Grin.


2 - What's to stop someone from setting up a counter-fund, denominated in BTC, that's pegged to the dollar as a shorting mechanism?  Or, what's to stop someone from setting up equivalent funds?  

Regulatory hurdles and the capital to back it.  Same as with setting up any financial mechanism.
16805  Economy / Securities / Re: Evaluating Havelock securities performances on: July 03, 2014, 06:22:49 PM
^The reason OGNasty favors that nonsense--he likes to make his "fans" believe they're making money as they lose it Smiley

Tell me again what "money" that you're referring to?  I'm sure the pursuers of your legal case would be interested in you further explaining yourself.

All I did was post public accounting numbers with added historical conversions so people could see realistically what has been earned/lost, and not just a result of the exchange rate from when invested until now.  I know you like to push your agenda, but it's tired and your justifications that someone lost "money" when a $1.54 investment turned into >$18 while also paying ~$4 in distributions simply displays a detachment from reality, which shouldn't be surprising to anyone who has any familiarity with your delusions of grandeur.

Try to explain your accounting exclusively in Bitcoin over a period of time to any real life businessman and you will be ridiculed for life (gold, real estate, bread, hookers, all would be better measures of value over time than Bitcoin).  You know this, so obviously you are just an emotional sad little mad who has backed himself into a corner and is lashing out anyone willing to point it out.  You're aiming at the wrong place though, which is why I assume you deleted your sad little post in my thread before being attacked for being an idiot.  NastyFans is an awesome, transparent organization that only does good for the community.  You on the other hand, are a cancerous troll to these forums, and it is obvious.
16806  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: July 03, 2014, 12:43:38 AM
Dear Customers,

We are happy to let you know that we've just solved the SPI issues.

We should be able to deliver all X3s by the end of the month.

Any update on this?
16807  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Titan 1 oz. .999 fine Gold - 1 BTC coins are here on: July 03, 2014, 12:37:33 AM
The gold on these is already thin enough that it cause production problems for a deep relief coin, so 1/2 oz would definitely need to be smaller diameter.

What is the diameter of these coins?  Any plans to venture into a platinum coin?
16808  Economy / Auctions / 5 BTC 2012 Casascius Coin (repackaged, slabbed, loadable) on: July 02, 2014, 11:37:33 PM
I am auctioning off one of these repackaged rare 5 BTC 2012 Casascius Coins:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=658331.0  <-- Please see for more info



Starting bid is 0.1 BTC.
Minimum bid increase is 0.01 BTC.
Shipping is free in the US, 0.02 BTC extra for international.
Auction ends at midnight GMT on Sunday, July 6th.
Any bids extend auction for additional 2 hours.

16809  Economy / Securities / LIVE CHAT IN 15 MINUTES!!! on: July 01, 2014, 07:48:56 PM
As promised, I compiled all of the publicly available information dating back to the GLBSE days.  All statistics are averages based off of the actual seat trades using the daily USD conversion rates.

Thanks to those who attended the live chat








16810  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: July 01, 2014, 05:36:10 PM
So much crying in this thread, it has become absolutely useless as a place to get information on this situation.
16811  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans.org] NASTY MINING | POOL | COINS on: July 01, 2014, 05:02:26 PM
Here's the official response from Domains4Bitcoins.com regarding the downtime for NastyFans.org.

Quote from: Domains4Bitcoins.com
Hi there,

Thank you for contacting Domains 4 Bitcoins Support.

We had a issue this weekend with "Angler Exploit" using our DNS servers.  As a result we have switched name servers temporarily until we can resolve this issue with our Administrators.  We will update you once we get a update from them and will find out what can be done to avoid this issue going forward.

Please let us know if you have any other questions.

Thank you,

Domains 4 Bitcoins Support
16812  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans.org] NASTY MINING | POOL | COINS on: July 01, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
That's the monthly average? 

Yes, that is the monthly average as it is seen from our pool readings.  You can add 3TH/s to NastyMining to account for our cloud mining if you'd like.  Wink
16813  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] 2011 Casascius Error Coin on: July 01, 2014, 09:33:09 AM
How firm are you on the 2.75 price?

I received an offer for 2.65 BTC, but the buyer is waiting on a funds transfer.
16814  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans.org] NASTY MINING | POOL | COINS on: July 01, 2014, 05:11:47 AM
JUNE 2014 MINING STATS:
NastyPool: 1.92 TH/s
NastyMining: 1.77 TH/s

OgNasty: 1.55 TH/s
silverfuture: 59.8 GH/s
Squirrel Dearing: 55.8 GH/s
Bees_Brothers: 51 GH/s
ManeBjorn: 49.1 GH/s
16815  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans.org] NASTY MINING | POOL | COINS on: July 01, 2014, 02:46:10 AM
I'll be available to host a live chat tomorrow at 1:00pm PST to discuss all things Nasty.  I'll also be posting the monthly stats and historical quarterly data for the last 2 years as it becomes available.


Now heading to the kitchen to make some honey roasted almonds  Grin

16816  Economy / Goods / Re: Selling Laser Pointers *Green 400MW* - Only 85.99$!!! on: July 01, 2014, 12:51:46 AM
Extremely tempting...
16817  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans.org] NASTY MINING | POOL | COINS on: June 30, 2014, 04:42:23 PM
What IP address should it be resolving to?

176.28.50.57

Feel free to use https://176.28.50.57 for the time being instead of nastyfans.org if you are uncomfortable with changing your DNS for the nastyfans.bit site. 

176.28.50.57:9332  <---  Miners can point here until domains4bitcoins.com gets their DNS issues resolved.  My apologies for taking so long to relay this information.
16818  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans.org] NASTY MINING | POOL | COINS on: June 30, 2014, 03:19:37 PM
It must be down...I can no longer reach it either.

Still no response from the Domain provider.  It is working for me and a few others, but I'm continuing to search for ways to resolve the issue.

Worth noting...  We do have procedures in place to account for the loss of a DNS entry.  For those of you familiar with .bit sites, we do own nastyfans.bit and you are able to view and use the site by using a .bit friendly DNS service.

Below are instructions on how to configure your DNS to work with .bit sites.
Instructions on OpenNIC to configure DNS
16819  Economy / Securities / Re: [NastyFans.org] NASTY MINING | POOL | COINS on: June 30, 2014, 06:28:51 AM
/flushdns didn't work and it seems to be down from here too: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/nastyfans.org

I'd just like to sign in to lift account probation... ;(

Very odd...  I sent an email to our domain provider yesterday but have not yet received a response.  It is working for me in my location, so it definitely isn't a global outage or anything on our end.
16820  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTS] 0.1 BTC Silver Casascius Coin on: June 30, 2014, 04:29:49 AM
Look good thanks for the pics! How firm are you at this price?

Pretty firm.  You don't see these for sale very often, and you won't find one in better condition.
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