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16901  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Frustration with Investors- Why is it so hard to take Bitcoin mainstream? on: November 23, 2011, 06:03:47 AM
As I sit here in the SoHo House in lower Manhattan, I cant help but express some frustration in taking Bitcoin and its economy more mainstream. A prospective investor just left, and I'm finishing up a seed round of funding. Although I've done this before with my other companies, the ratio of prospective investors to actual investors is much higher here than in any other industry, which means I have to meet more investors than I would for another type of business. Previously, If I had met 10 investors, at least 2-3 would invest, but with Bitcoin that number is much higher.

I've come to a realization that I'm not just pitching my company, but rather pitching the whole industry of Bitcoin. Not only that, but most time spent on meetings IS explaining, pitching, and trying to have them understand why Bitcoin will become (investing with me, of course) a multi billion dollar industry.

My initial obstacles was explaining how this would grow, how can we use Bitcoin in the mainstream world? Obviously as a merchant solution the answer is simple and Bitcoin is very appealing to adult entertainment sites, gambling and eventually larger retailers.

Right, Growth. Thats the key word.

So I prepare documents and business models and explain how much Bitcoin will make, how much it has made and its mistakes and how the community has fixed them. I have to explain the MtGox hack, the mybitcoin disappearance and the legal battles we all face.

There are 'riskier' investors, and I've already secured and signed with them, but why does that have to be? Is it because Bitcoin is so new that alot of my question remain unanswered?

The point of this post is yes to voice my frustrations, but at the same time I consider this community to be shareholders in my company because your thoughts, ideas, and voices are what make up Bitcoin. You guys have been here since the beginning and no what will, and what will not work.

With that said, I was hoping to get the following out of this post:
1. Some feedback of my thoughts.
2. Advice/Tips for my next investor meeting.
3. Overall ideas of HOW you guys see Bitcoin breaking into the mainstream market.

Thanks for reading  Smiley

-Charlie




Give them a Bitcoin on the spot and have them make a transaction within 10 minutes.  Show them that it can be done that quickly and without having to get up.

this is actually a good suggestion.  bring an ipad, a smartphone, and a laptop and move 1BTC back and forth btwn the three and tell them to pretend the devices are spread out btwn the North Pole, the South Pole and the Moon.
16902  Economy / Economics / The Bitcoin Sentiment Indicator on: November 23, 2011, 04:06:45 AM
Financial Risk Analytics 
16903  Economy / Speculation / The Bitcoin Sentiment Indicator on: November 23, 2011, 03:27:07 AM
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16904  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Frustration with Investors- Why is it so hard to take Bitcoin mainstream? on: November 23, 2011, 02:33:48 AM
if any of your investors would ever want to talk to me i'd be happy to serve as a reference for you.
16905  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Sentiment Indicator on: November 23, 2011, 12:37:25 AM
Please help me test out the new Bitcoin Sentiment Indicator:

Financial Risk Analytics  

I don't understand what the "sentiment indicator" is.  Unless it's that flash thing on the right side that I can't see because I block flash.

yes its on the top right sidebar.  not sure if its flash...
16906  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Sentiment Indicator on: November 22, 2011, 11:30:57 PM
I just seemed to recall some website which had a javascript miner. Your colors reminded me of that one. In retrospect, it wasn't yours. Sorry for the false accusation.

its ok but you scared the crap out of me.  i just went and lengthened my pw!
16907  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Sentiment Indicator on: November 22, 2011, 10:41:09 PM
Oh is that the site with the javascript miner again?

care to elaborate?
16908  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / The Bitcoin Sentiment Indicator on: November 22, 2011, 09:59:09 PM
Please help me test out the new Bitcoin Sentiment Indicator:

Financial Risk Analytics  
16909  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / 4 Key Charts on: November 22, 2011, 06:37:28 AM
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16910  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind version 0.5.0 on: November 21, 2011, 11:25:22 PM
Up and running !

Only complaint is that when in the Options (on Windows 7x64), when checking "Start Bitcoin on windows system startup" and then hitting Apply. There's a slight locking up of the program, then the box becomes unchecked.  I'm not sure it's actually doing anything.  Hitting Ok instead of Apply, yields the same results, except the Options dialog disappears and the checkbox is still checked.  When you re-open Options, the checkbox isn't checked anymore.

Might be something to look into Smiley

having same problem

had same problem with Mac version.

wow!  only took me 1/2h to download blockchain on my Macbook Pro!
16911  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind version 0.5.0 on: November 21, 2011, 10:39:59 PM
Up and running !

Only complaint is that when in the Options (on Windows 7x64), when checking "Start Bitcoin on windows system startup" and then hitting Apply. There's a slight locking up of the program, then the box becomes unchecked.  I'm not sure it's actually doing anything.  Hitting Ok instead of Apply, yields the same results, except the Options dialog disappears and the checkbox is still checked.  When you re-open Options, the checkbox isn't checked anymore.

Might be something to look into Smiley

having same problem
16912  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind version 0.5.0 on: November 21, 2011, 10:34:15 PM
downloaded 0.5.0 win32 setup.exe for Windows 7.

interestingly, it forced me to use not my current password but my previous and original password for the wallet. 
16913  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Robert Prechter Mentions Bitcoin AGAIN on: November 21, 2011, 03:30:31 AM
the key thing to take away from the interest in Bitcoin by financial analysts like Keiser and Prechter is that they see gold and silver as "investments" or as "stores of value".  they invest in them not because they see them becoming currencies around which an economy can run.  they invest in them to preserve the value of their hard earned USD's that are being inflated away by our Fed.

so for them to draw an analogy btwn Bitcoin and gold or silver is to say that they see Bitcoin as a potential "store of value" that can compete with gold or silver whether or not an economy evolves or not.
16914  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Robert Prechter Mentions Bitcoin AGAIN on: November 21, 2011, 02:29:55 AM
sorry, made one small change to the blog post...
16915  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Robert Prechter Mentions Bitcoin AGAIN on: November 21, 2011, 02:03:29 AM
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16916  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: TRIPLE ENTRY CROWD ACCOUNTING on: November 21, 2011, 12:24:12 AM
"Bitcoin is a payment network based on triple-entry crowd accounting.  A crowd of computers - run by ordinary Bitcoin users - observes the transactions, produces a single common ledger, and keeps everyone honest.  The magic that came from Bitcoin's inventor - the thread that holds the whole thing together - is a process by which the entire crowd can always agree on what transactions it observed, despite differences in timing and perspective, and even despite varying levels of honesty among participants.  Bitcoin's design ensures that no matter how big the crowd, its collective efforts always produce exactly one transaction ledger."
Replace "magic" with "technology" and you've got my vote. I know you want to capture the magic of bitcoin, but if I were a banker, I'd stay the hell away from anything that "magically worked".

In fact, I would almost boldly propose that the term "block chain" be renamed to "public ledger".  This would be a jargon change to use a term familiar to anyone with anything to do with banking and accounting, rather than a term that only has meaning to computer scientists.  It would encourage non-engineers to make many more useful assumptions, such as the fact that entries are only added to the end of it, and that it's available to everybody.
Yes.

And as long as we're renaming anyway:
Please, please rename "mining" to "securing". As far as I can tell, people are saying "What, computers do some calculation, and then mine bitcoins out of nothing? Lol, what a joke!"
By naming it securing, or maybe "verifying", it signifies useful work being done.

"verifying" gets my vote.  indicates a "truth" to the matter whereas secure could indicate even a hiding of the truth.
16917  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: TRIPLE ENTRY CROWD ACCOUNTING on: November 21, 2011, 12:22:52 AM
someone get 2112 in here.  i'm sure he'll have alot to say about this.
16918  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Roger Ver: "If you Love Liberty, you should Love Bitcoin." on: November 20, 2011, 04:59:13 PM
If You Love Liberty ~ You'll Love Bitcoin

I like it.  the colors too...
16919  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Roger Ver: "If you Love Liberty, you should Love Bitcoin." on: November 20, 2011, 04:25:05 PM
yeah, you're right.  I meant it more as a High Five more than anything.
16920  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Roger Ver: "If you Love Liberty, you should Love Bitcoin." on: November 20, 2011, 04:09:49 PM
I vote Roger as the new Bitcoin Spokesperson. Cheesy
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