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1701  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Xenland - Readme Please on: October 23, 2011, 05:43:11 AM
Ok so i just signed up so I could offer some advice, unfortuately the post is located in the main Discussion area, to which i don't yet have access...  That said, if anyone with access could just type a nice post in that thread pointing to this this one for him to see, that would be great, thanks. Smiley

Original Thread here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49457.0

Xenland, to determine in which method you should display pagination, you really do need to determine what kind of data you're displaying.  In your case you gave an example of it being an alphabetical order.  In this case, instead of asking the user to guess a page number that corresponds to the letter, it may benefot you to split the pagination in latter increments, and pages within those letters.

A-E F-K L-S T-Z 0-9 for instance.  Within each of those divisions would be standard numeric pages.  Even better if you provide an overarching search function that will allow people to seek out a title directly without having to remember what page it was on.

Sorry, App developer by trade, *and* I've had quite a few beer, so when I read the post I just felt the need to add my $0.02. Wink

- Effayy

Hey cool thanks for shouting out

Thats a great suggestion, it didn't occor to me to paginate with letters instead of numbers when sorting. I'll deffinatly implement this idea for the next updates. I already have updates coming and they are in progress as I write this.

Welcome to the community.
1702  Economy / Services / Re: Break My Website | Cheaper in Bitcoins on: October 23, 2011, 03:38:30 AM
thanks, and sorry for the barking but I thought you were taking the piss.
you're a man of your word.




props


Its all good, I have a biz to run and my customers are first. My employees(and part time contractors, thats you!) get paid when they get paid just like any other job Tongue

any ways thanks for help me out too my website will run a little bit smoother after I get all these broken links fixed.
1703  Economy / Services / Re: Break My Website | Cheaper in Bitcoins on: October 23, 2011, 03:26:34 AM

1 BTC for your time


...no you didn't..

I only joke of course but i just sent out
 1.5 BTC for finding the search engine link and the phone number in the TOS
1704  Economy / Services / Re: Break My Website | Cheaper in Bitcoins on: October 23, 2011, 03:23:15 AM

1 BTC for your time


...no you didn't..

Well fine, no BTC for your impatientness Tongue
1705  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Vow not to exchange bitcoin for fiat on: October 23, 2011, 03:21:50 AM
I like how you wrote "TLDR" then almost wrote as much as I did. Wink

You're wrong on a few points though, and I'll tell you why. Yes, you have to keep an eye on your accounts with "fiat" dollars, but at least you have some recourse. If someone makes off with your BTC, you're fucked. Our economy still hasn't evolved any sort of market for insuring them (which is probably what's going to have to happen for it to be safe, but people will resist that because it's a peer2peer system, and history has shown us that trusting some centralized service with your Bitcoins is akin to grabbing your ankles in a communal shower).

As far as overdraft fees: learn how to manage your money. You don't look at your balance and think "this is how much money I have to spend" unless you're a teenager. That's true no matter what currency you work in, and it'll likely be true in BTC eventually.

For the record: I haven't cashed out any BTC to USD in (almost to the day) three months. It hasn't been worth it. Instead, I spend whatever I earn or mine. I'm literally already doing everything this pledge is talking about, and I still think the pledge is a dumb idea. Bitcoin's just imaginary play money to me, I don't notice the minimal impact on our electric bill (I'm only running one very modest GPU without any overclock/overvolt) and I get some goofy shit like games or whatever without "spending any money" (it's purely psychological).

My point was that the economic activity is so low at the moment that if everyone pledges to only spend their BTC and some of us pledge to only spend BTC with people who pledge to only spend that BTC, then sooner or later there's going to be people who wind up just holding that BTC. There aren't any businesses yet who only have expenses in BTC, so there aren't many businesses who can afford to not cash out their BTC. So we again arrive back at the situation with people resisting the urge to cash out, and the person who profits most is the first person to break that pledge.

Spending BTC is always good, but realize sooner or later someone has to cash out. It's just better to let people do what they wish with it, let the market do as it pleases and avoid any meddling.

I agree with alot of what your saying,  I was just kind of adding on to what you were saying earlier(and I did actually read most of it btw Smiley).

The way I thinking about it is if even if everyone stopped cashing out to fiat it shouldn't hurt the BTC economy as far as value because the idea is to spend Bitcoins for how much you think they are worth. Of course this isn't true since we are tide to fiat wholesalers and suppliers. So the fiat issue will only be a short-term blow to the BTC economy if we all pushed to spend Bitcoins as if we use them to buy gas or groceries then they will be "worth" something just for the act of spending them. Of course this is just the idea
1706  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Vow not to exchange bitcoin for fiat on: October 23, 2011, 03:16:03 AM
I like how you wrote "TLDR" then almost wrote as much as I did. Wink


I was hoping you would notice ;P
1707  Economy / Services / Re: Break My Website | Cheaper in Bitcoins on: October 23, 2011, 02:56:14 AM
If you add enough stuff to the shopping cart - it stops loading.

I can't seem to recreate this I added over 1 million products and nothing happened in error. Most likly this was due to the CPU bottle neck earlyer(probubly everyone jumping on at once for the bounty) causing the server to reply with a 500 error. I know now that I must upgrade my ram and I'll be doing this tomorrow.
1708  Economy / Services / Re: Break My Website | Cheaper in Bitcoins on: October 23, 2011, 02:49:58 AM
search button on top right of page seems broken, at least in the health and beauty section.
I can enter text, but the GO button does nothing.

BTW, what's cuticle oil and is it made by squeezing cuticles real hard?
1 BTC for your time
1709  Economy / Services / Re: Break My Website | Cheaper in Bitcoins on: October 23, 2011, 02:48:50 AM
Logged in, add any(?) item to your cart (I used A Basic Guide to Exporting By Generic) and click on the image while viewing your cart. You should be taken to a 404 page.

404s don't count but I award you another 1BTC for your time.
1710  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is UNIQUE on: October 23, 2011, 02:43:14 AM
 ???sounds like you been smoking some of your teas?

Tongue
All jokes aside I couldn't agree with you any more.

Bitcoin is Bitcoin...... plain and simple.
1711  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Vow not to exchange bitcoin for fiat on: October 23, 2011, 02:40:38 AM
What is this bullshit?

No offense, but this idea is stupid as hell. That bubble to $30 was nothing but an elaborate game of musical chairs caused by rampant speculation. But who cares about fixing that, and encouraging an actual, stable, and sustainable economy. No, let's just repeat the thing by having everyone pledge to hold coins and artificially inflate the price again! \o/

Again, we'll be starting a brand new game of musical chairs, only this time people are "pledging" not to sit down when the music stops. Do you not see how completely fuckin' retarded such an idea is? If I had to put my finger on the pulse of the one chief issue that's plaguing Bitcoin, it's that it rewards people who are dishonest at the expense of those who aren't. This idea of yours will do exactly the same thing, those who break their pledge first when the price gets too delicious will benefit at the expense of those who hold to the pledge.

Here's an idea, let the market do what it wants... isn't that, you know, the whole economic reasoning behind Bitcoin after all? Exactly how full of shit are the libertard ideals that make up much of this community if it's "laissez faire" until the market does something we don't like, then we conspire to "fix" it? Oh, let me guess - it's only market manipulation when the government does it? If it's private people it's just the invisible hand, right?

This is just wrong, wrong, wrong. If I send you Bitcoins, do whatever the fuck you want with them. With any luck and some really well funded market makers, we'll end up at a stable price (whatever that may be, it really doesn't matter) and we can go back to encouraging more merchants to use it.
TL:DR

I think the whole point is to spend Bitcoins on products and services instead of converting them then spending it in your fiat money, Not to outright hold the fuck outta them until we reach a huge bubble then convert. Open up your eyes bro its not always about the money its about convince of the Bitcoin service.

I feel soo safe spending my Bitcoins and keeping them under my pillow. With fiat... I'm constantly spending money for services watching credit score, identity theft and those things only tell you "after" you've been stolen from. Dealing with credit/debit cards are such as hassel becuase once a company has those numbers you better trust thos companies with your life as some of them find it an inconvience to charge you on the spot and will charge you when you feel like it... mean while days/weeks go by and you think "yeah all those charges went through i'm back to zero" then BAM! your hit with a huge over-draft fee becuase you thought all 11 companies already charged you.

no no Bitcoin is much more then just a pump-and-dump experiment its a new kind of entity in its self.... we still don't even know wtf to call it yet.... Is it a currency, commodity store of value.... all right answers depending on whom you talk to...
1712  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What should one do with all these pages? on: October 23, 2011, 02:33:13 AM
Why would people want to get to page 247? They don't know what is where and will be going in order usually right?

If some category has that many results then people will want filters or search, not a way to look through 500 pages one by one.

Well one possible reason would be is maybe your sorting your results by alphabetical order and you want to get to the letter "G" so you just kind of make a guess towards the middle and click on the middle page then go up or down from there in the same proccess until you get to "G"'s this same idea can be applied with different sorting methods such as if I was sorting by price maybe I want to find the 50BTC range it would take for ever if a person had to load every page just to get to it...
1713  Economy / Services / Re: Break My Website | Cheaper in Bitcoins on: October 23, 2011, 02:23:54 AM
Using this as an email address: slfjddlkjfdfsihfishfhskfhdsjahfkjafgkasfgkd@slfhslkfhslkfhliwhfiubwdiflubsdlifhfoiuwbflisbdflisbfusbdfjsdfsufsudfbjh.sdfhdihfidf

And entering 'sgsdfwersdfsdasd' as a password breaks the form and results in a blank page after post.

 Grin

Bitcoins to: 1Ha3gRrGgxqwvsfMpzwVwheo3j2esqzzFs

2 BTC being awarded
1714  Economy / Services / Re: Break My Website | Cheaper in Bitcoins on: October 23, 2011, 02:22:59 AM
Login to account > Forgotten password:

Quote
404 Error: Page was not found

We couldn't find the page you were looking for
404 Error

https://i.imgur.com/RkX5x.png

You can send the BTC to: 1AvZBfz7txnLHsLVna9Liw7tFCKZTgqTyM Tongue

1 BTC for 404 error.

(404 errors are not breaking my site but I do feel as tho I should award you for your time, thanks!)
1715  Economy / Services / Re: Break My Website | Cheaper in Bitcoins on: October 23, 2011, 02:18:11 AM
If you are getting 500 errors it is due to ram problems I'm validating all issues and Will respond to each one.
1716  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What should one do with all these pages? on: October 23, 2011, 01:54:39 AM
Yes thats a good suggestion. Im PMing you about the stats
1717  Economy / Services / Re: Break My Website | Cheaper in Bitcoins on: October 23, 2011, 01:51:50 AM
Wow this is alot to look over thanks everyone and for the 500 error i think my server was running out of ram and causing certain loading issues ill increase ram tommorow during the update but ill be sure to pay everyone who had valid claims before i apply updates so noones time was wasted
1718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Vow not to exchange bitcoin for fiat on: October 22, 2011, 10:20:59 PM
I will vow to never convert all profits with Cheaper In Bitcoins to any fiat currency as for the items sold is a different story since no wholesaler accepts Bitcoins so I will always be forced to convert more then 90% of any bitcoin flow to fiat.
1719  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: IF glbse dies tomorrow.... How will i know whom owns the percentage of my Biz on: October 22, 2011, 10:12:33 PM

ITT people get legal advice from a 17 year old.

Whoms getting advice from whom?
1720  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / What should one do with all these pages? on: October 22, 2011, 10:10:58 PM
Okay so as you see below my new update will consist of soo many page links to click on that it actually takes up 3 whole screenshots on my 1600x1400 resolution.

I was thinking about  doing a shortened pagination approach such as  like this

1,2,3.... 500,501,502


But what if you want to quickly reach page 50? you would have to click page 3 and then wait for the load and then click page 6 and then wait for a page load, and so on....


My other option is to make it in a scrollable box(an i-frame or scrolling div for HTML lingo) which is perfectly doable but that is confusing for some and may not be understanable by there are a bunch of numbers in a box.

I could do the first approach and then have a input box where users can type in which page they would like to jump too...
what do you guys think?


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