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1701  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 06, 2023, 12:14:27 PM
To be honest, we haven't seen much of Hojlund so far. He was too young in Copenhagen, had decents patches in Austria and Denmark's national team and had a so-so breakthrough season in Italy.

Atalanta bought him for 15 million Euros, he scored 10 goals there in 34 games. Not really something that should have made him a 80+ million euros transfer.
But - it's United I guess. They have been brainless with their buys for quite some time now.

I'm not saying he's not good. I'm just saying that Dolberg had a similar path as a kid and is now barely getting any games. A huge gamble once again, not how you build good teams.
1702  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: August 05, 2023, 05:09:05 PM
The Cup results are here!

Only one game is going into overtimes, Harkorede vs buwaytress! Who's winning this one, lads?

Cup - Round 1   
Match 1 : Harkorede vs buwaytress   2-2
Match 2 : chi20 vs hakan2217   3-2
Match 3 : Renato297 vs Rikafip   2-1
Match 4 : vd309 vs ulven   3-4
Match 5 : darxiaomi vs Igebotz   1-2
Match 6 : notblox1 vs famososMuertos   3-2
Match 7 : mitchr4 vs bullrun2020bro   3-4
Match 8 : Woodie vs cls63   2-3
Match 9 : mv1986 vs Ozymandias_DZ   3-1
Match 10 : Navidart vs casperBGD   4-3
Match 11 : jayce vs slaman29   2-3
Match 12 : LTU_btc vs LFC_Bitcoin   1-3
Match 13 : Danydee vs slackovic   3-1
Match 14 : Slissy vs Bonta   3-0
Match 15 : vivekdkhyani vs jeremypwr   2-1
Match 16 : cryptofrka vs MAAManda   2-5

MAAManda with a clean 5/5. Congrats man, better to get kicked out of the Cup this way.
1703  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: August 05, 2023, 09:33:03 AM
Edit: Hmm you're right I skipped a yes/no in tiebreaker. Cro2 what happens here? Heh

We go one by one and skip the first one that makes sense. In this case, you already did a Beckham with your 5th penalty (over or under 3,5 bookings).

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I'm out of the Cup as well, a clean victory for MAAManda who's actually dangerous when he remembers to submit his answers Grin
He's got all 4 correct so far so I've got nothing to complain about, I could have done a little bit better but in these quick 5-question rounds it's hard to turn things around if it starts the wrong way.
1704  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zivjeti sa Bitcoinom i bjeg od inflatornog fiata on: August 05, 2023, 09:16:55 AM
Ja mislim da je istina negdje na pola. Fiat će biti tu još duže vrijeme ali pametno je djelomično i odmicati se od njega.

Štedim u BTC-u i dionicama/indeksima, to radim sam - bez brokera, banaka i tih pizdarija. Imam uvijek par mjesečnih plaća na računu u fiatu za normalan život, čim to naraste prebacim u nešto od gorenavedenog.
DCA je majka dobrih investicija - inflacija (normalna) je jedan od važnijih pokretača ekonomije i za očekivati je da će konstantno biti sve više i više novca u opticaju. Samim tim, dugoročno gledano, sve 'sigurne' investicije se isplate - pogotovo stvari poput Bitcoina, zlata ili SP500/Nasdaq/DJ30 indeksa.

S obzirom da CBDC postaje realnost i da će se doslovno moći pratiti gdje piškimo i kakimo, vjerujem da će alternativna sredstva plaćanja doživjeti procvat. Stoga - mislim da je pametno ulagati u kripto.

To je mislim ipak malo drukcija situacija jer koliko sam skuzio on je imao stare funte koje su povucene iz prometa prosle godinetako da nije cudo da ih nitko nije htio primiti. Kao sto kod nas vise ne primaju kune nego ih moras ici mijenjati u banku.

Nudio sam 30 starih za 20 novih, netko ode u banku u pon i zaradi 100 kn. Međutim pol njih me nije uopće ni skužilo, drugačiji mentalitet skroz. Kod nas bi ti to 10 ljudi samo od sebe ponudilo Grin
1705  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Altcoin novosti on: August 04, 2023, 04:57:12 PM
E, napokon jedan projekt u kojeg idem all in. Pod all in mislim na tih 4k$ koliko je maksimalna investicija u ovom trenutku.

Projekt je Chainflip, dex/swap bridge koji će u sebi uključivati sve najveće blockchaine, uključujući i BTC.
Mislim da je ovo ogromna stvar, već neko vrijeme pizdim jer ne postoji neki normalni BTC-ETH bridge i govorim da će prvi koji to naprave zgrnuti ludu lovu.

Meni ovo super izgleda, full-diluted valuation je visok ali mislim da za ovakav projekt nije prenapuhan.
Token se koristi kao collateral, sa prikupljenim feejem se radi buyback/burn tokena - što token čini dugoročno deflatornim.
1706  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: August 04, 2023, 02:59:40 PM
@mv1986 I get your drift and you do have a point from an angle, but since we've never had an opposing scenario, we just would never know what the decision would have been, but what would you have clamored for if all the answers you submitted were wrong and the said opponent only valid question was correct, would you have agreed he should be awarded the win (@cryptofrka and @Trofo, what would have been the decision in that case, because I don't think we've been there before, and it's just a matter of time, if we keep having late submissions before we have one), and this has actually been discussed a couple of times already, there isn't a fair measure that favors everyone, I lost or drew a match a few rounds ago, when I could say the asked question should have been void and I would have been right but others too would have a point as to why the question should remain valid, but to be honest, any decision made about cases like this as it negatively affects one person, it positively affects the other.

If you submit all on time and everything is incorrect and your opponent submits only 1 answer and it is correct, it would mean that he'd win 1-0, and get a negative point.
Not something we want to see ever happen and the chances are we won't. It will be impossible from next season anyway.

To just make this whole situation of going back and forth over with, I would suggest an immediate implementation of late entries being null and void all together and not just a couple of questions, especially for division 1 and 2 players, since those divisions are not filled with first time participants.

Will be from next season - if we did it now some players could make an argument that it's not fair that we switched it mid-season, and we agree with that.
All major rule changes will be seasonal.

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We are sorry that some things aren't set in stone, we knew the risks when we implemented lenient rules for this season.

Example - we're really close to losing DireWolfM14 from the competition. One more missed round and he's out, and again we have a shitty situation on our hands.
In that case, we can void all results or write it all as 3-0. If we void all, Rikafip and bullrun2020bro lose 1 negative point for late submission, if we write it as 3-0 across the league, they keep the negative point. Either way we go, there will be unhappy people again.
It's a really difficult terrain to navigate without stepping on some toes, we eventually have to step on some to avoid the rules having 7 pages. Even then, we'd still forget to put some things in there.

Let's close this now, we really remain open for suggestions. Just please do understand that we try to make it as fair and fun as possible for everybody.
1707  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: August 03, 2023, 05:26:18 PM
Check out this round then between me and cryptofrka. None of my 10 answers, provided in time, was correct.

This situation is perfectly clear. You submitted on time and got all answers wrong. If I had 7 correct, it would have been 7-0. I got 3 correct, so it's 3-0.

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There's a lot of stuff that has been said, some of it incorrect, but I really don't want to play ping-pong with you around this.
Also - please don't pinpoint one of us out. What Trofo writes I concur with, what I write he concurs with.
We never run any campaign or competition in a way that you described how Trofo does it and I really don't appreciate that kind of talk. It is untrue and childish.

Basically, it all comes down to this:

Your judgment to make the round a 3-0 against LFC_Bitcoin wasn't rule-based. It was your subjective opinion driven by personal incentive.

And it is correct.
I purposely crossed out the idiotic part of it. If you really think that there's a personal incentive behind awarding someone a bigger goal difference, then you live in a world that I'm unable to comprehend.

Now let's discuss the important part - why it isn't rule based and is subjective.

Considering that we had 16 new members joining, from which a lot is from Clubhouse and don't really read Bitcointalk, we decided we don't want to introduce a harsh penalty in which you instantly lose 3-0 if you're late this season. We'll introduce it next season and we have already said that multiple times.
Because of that we find ourselves in difficult situations every time somebody submits late.
In some rounds you lose 5 points if you're a second late and in some just a point, some rounds have 4 H2H questions and some have 1. Sometimes people submit on Fridays and are eligible only for 1 question.
We need to balance goal difference in a way that is fair to all participants and sometimes it means that you will get fucked over. This is a decision we won't be apologizing for, it's just something that has to be done this season because it's the lesser of 2 evils.
It is not intentional, it is not you we're targeting, it's because we can't make a fair rule at this point that would be beneficial for the competition. It's either 3-0 which would happen too often or balancing how to grade big results when somebody is late.

I already told you - 9 out of 10 LFC_Bitcoin's answers were invalid at the time of his submission. If you think you should have won 6-0, you are being selfish and are putting yourself ahead of the competition.
Paradoxically, you're accusing us of having an agenda whereas you're the one that's forcing something with no logic behind it whatsoever.

Bottom line - you see some sort of agendas against you that simply don't exist. If you want to continue with it feel free to do so, also feel free to yell from your balcony what a shitty job Cro2 is doing if you'll feel better.

We run a fair competition - to the best of our abilities. Getting slammed for f&%king you over goal difference? For fuck sakes, man.
1708  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Altcoin novosti on: August 03, 2023, 12:49:46 PM
Haha. Nisam nikad čuo da netko ne želi uzeti 3x zaradu samo zbog toga jer mu se ne da prijavljivati porez. Čak bi mi bilo jasnije da si rekao da ne želiš platiti porez državi (ali onda valjda ne bi bi trgovao na KYC burzama), ali ovako zvuči baš smiješno. Pretpostavljam da se ne radi o nekim velikim iznosima pa ti se zato ne da.

Što se tiče globalne situacije, ne znam što bi rekao... Već par godina se govori o globalnoj financijskoj krizi koja nikako da dođ. Nije da želim da dođe ali zapravo ne znam niti što bi se moglo dogoditi u tom trenutku, odnosno gdje je najbolje držati lovu u slučaju da se dogodi. Čak u slučaju te krize manje me strah za lovu koju imam u kriptu nego za lovu koju imam u fiatu.

A ono, polugodišnja plaća recimo. Ne bih znao uopće otkud krenuti s tim papirima s porezne.
Slažem se da zvuči glupo al neke stvari su mi toliko odbojne da bi vjerojatno morao imat neku baš ozbiljnu lovu unutra da se idem time baviti.

Ok mi je rizik da sve spušim ako je alternativa pričanje s polupismenim trogloditima iz HDZ-a.
1709  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: August 03, 2023, 10:41:36 AM
Sreća tvoja da si bio mala ribica za njih. Neću pitati za iznose jer nekom je malo puno, a puno malo tako da nema smisla. Sjećam se da je bilo priče o ovoj grupi trejdera u prošlosti i da su ih ljudi hvalili za dobre rezultate. Siguran sam i da ima ljudi sa našeg lokala koji su im dali coine i sad ih nažalost izgubili.

Mislim da im je 5k eur bio minimalni ulog u trenutku kad sam ja razmišljao o tome.
Nebitno je li nekome 5k eur malo ili puno, za takav iznos očekujem barem minimum informacija (transparentan ugovor i osnovnu investicijsku strateginu), što je od njih bilo nemoguće dobiti.

Stvarno me zanima kako će se na kraju cijela situacija rasplesti. Nadam se da nitko neće izgubiti glavu, ali stvarno je opasno trgovati bez ikakve zaštite i izgubiti svu lovu svih investitora.
1710  Other / Archival / Re: No-KYC Exchange Encyclopedia on: August 03, 2023, 10:35:52 AM
Fantastic, thanks again for your continuous efforts with this.
It is a huge amount of work but also a tremendous help for anybody that wants to keep their crypto balances private.
1711  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 03, 2023, 08:00:23 AM
Gvardiol to City was one of the most logical summer transfers for me.

The best ball-playing team in the world filling the gap in defence with a fast, ball-playing left footed center back - you simply knew this was going to happen.

Gvardiol is pure quality and will be a world-class centre back for a long period of time. This is a great deal for everybody involved and he deserves to be breaking transfer records.
1712  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: August 03, 2023, 07:56:02 AM
Your team must improve their defence. You just blew a two-goal lead against Bayern, and I believe Liverpool needs Caicedo more than we do. Depending on Matip and Van Djik would be a major issue for the squad next season. Van Djik is already in over his head. Only Lavia can fixed that

Yep, I agree. But the problem with the defence for me is also in the quality of our CB-s.
Van Dijk hasn't played well in ages, Konate is pure, utter shit, Matip is past it and Gomez is a Premier League player only because he's English. We really need a quality CB - and then we also need a good season from our new captain.

If VVD keeps his current form and is paired with either Konate or Matip, we'll be conceding like crazy even if we put Makelele from his prime years in front of them.
1713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: August 03, 2023, 07:50:36 AM
Did you guys bet on D.Zagreb to go in next round?

Nope, the odds weren't attractive at all. I did bet on Dinamo to win the first game, should have went with them to win yesterday as well.
Astana is a terrible team but I decided against it, because we tend to play horrible when the qualification is secured - which was the case before yesterday's game.

The next opponent is AEK - a team of similar quality. I think the cnances here will be 50-50, and you'll have this matchup in the BSFL for sure Grin
1714  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Altcoin novosti on: August 03, 2023, 07:34:28 AM
Ja trenutno imam samo BTC i Tether - u nekom 50-50 omjeru. Imam par tokena sa strane (Arbitrum, ETH, BNB, MATIC) al u malim količinama i po parsto dolara u par shitara.

Globalna situacija još uvijek djeluje dosta riskantno i ne vjerujem u 'soft landing' priče - vjerujem da nas čeka ozbiljna financijska kriza. Sve što zaradim radom na forumu ostavljam u BTC-u, a Tether čuvam ako dođe do pravog, kataklizmičnog pokolja.

Neke dionice su mi nedavno otišle na 3x i najviše se mučim oko toga, super je vrijeme za prodaju ali kupio sam lani i to su KYC burze pa bih morao platit porez. Nije ga čak problem ni platit, kolko mi se ne da to prijavljivat tako da tu nisam pametan što napravit. Mislim da ću ih ostavit još godinu dana pa ako ode nazad na nulu - a jebat ga.
1715  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Altcoin novosti on: August 02, 2023, 08:03:35 PM
Ja sam faking junkie, imam Deltu Pro koju otvorim valjda 40 puta dnevno.

Al ok, ja tamo imam i alarme i tracking liste - al svejedno, poluupravlja mi životom. Volio bih jednog dana biti ko vi Grin
1716  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Altcoin novosti on: August 02, 2023, 01:07:28 PM
ali BTC na cetvrtom mestu dosta govori, bilo bi interesantno videti gde bi bio samo ETH, bez provere mislim da je YTD malo losiji od BTC

Trenutno na malo manje od -13%.
1717  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: August 02, 2023, 07:28:17 AM
I'm already 1 goal ahead of you, and we have the same 2 answers on 2 questions, I think I just have to wait for the results of Feyenoord - PSV and also Watford - QPR matches. I wonder why there are so many people who believe Ludogorets will advance to the next round, it's all so absurd.

Well - Ludogorets is a 40 mil$ team whereas Ljubljana is a 10-million one. Yes - football does not work like that, but it turned out to be a 50-50 game where you wouldn't have gotten a point if Ludogorets scored a penalty late on in the game.

Small margins, I personally felt Ludogorets is a better team overall so I went for it. Also - they just had to go through for me to win and for Olimpija you had to guess how as well (regular or extra time) - so I still feel Ludogorets was a better choice here even after they lost the game.
1718  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: August 02, 2023, 07:07:27 AM
Liverpool submitted a new Ł42m bid for Lavia but Southampton still insist on Ł50m or no deal for someone they got for Ł12m last season. It's understand that Liverpool new bid will be rejected. Crazy days ahead

We can bluff all we want but we'll eventually pay it and they know it - that's just how we work.
I watched Lavia live and he did look like a decent player - and he's still really young. But this is crazy money for a guy that just dropped to the Championship.

The fact that there simply aren't that many good '6-es' (defensive midfielders) on the market helps Soton to push the price up. That's why Caicedo is rated at 80 million as well.
1719  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: August 02, 2023, 07:01:54 AM
Nobody chose all 4 favorites in tennis? Now we mostly need one more guy to fall Smiley

I thought I'll have an edge with this question, but MAAManda picked the same outcome as well. Those players aren't the ones that are consistent, so 2 or less was for me a 100% certain outcome.
CL football killed me yesterday - it will be hard to get to penalties now. These short rounds don't give much wiggle room when you're a goal down.

What is the probability of losing a round 0-1?

I don't think we ever had it - not sure though. So, extremely low I'd say.

Something's obviously bothering you but you speak in codes and walk around it - so I have trouble understanding what it is.
Just please explain it to us and tell us why you feel it's unfair and we'll evaluate it.
1720  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: August 01, 2023, 07:20:47 PM
just to clarify penalty question, City vs Arsenal, Haaland to score (penalties included) means that even a penalty kick in penalty shootout is considered as yes?

Yup, if he takes one and scores, it counts.

By the way if I don't see it wrong I think I have made it to the upper round because of my opponent's sending their answers late.

Nope, we put the deadlines in GMT time (forum time), while the spreadsheet takes our time (CET), which is +2.
So, whatever is earlier than 19:00 in the spreadsheet counts as correctly submitted on time.
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