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1701  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: December 22, 2017, 09:47:20 AM
Your line of argument is flawed here. Gambling was never deceptive, it never said "you will always win or win something in the end" it has always been "get the chance to win" or something along those lines. There is was no deception there so why was it wrong? Also, what the thread is saying is it wrong to gamble, on the side of the gambler himself and not the gambling site.

For some people it may be a deception because they are losing the game. When someone lose they will say whatever bad about it and it is normal. I was like that as well but to be honest that is only happen because I was frustated that I keep losing. Sooner or later, people will know that the main problem is not the game but it is ourselves
1702  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: December 22, 2017, 09:40:01 AM

Then stop loving it. Gambling should not be love. It should be some sort of love-hate relationship. Gamble only to enjoy yourself while hating it because it would prevent you from getting addicted, then if you win love those winnings! Since winning is rare in gambling, any wins should be cherished and enjoyed after your gambling session. Don't let the casinos take it back, just withdraw it and buy something nice.

It is not about love or hate but it is about our perspective on why we gamble . If we only gamble for fun then it should be easy for us to give up gambling but if we do it for the sake of getting profit or even worse to get back what we lose , It will be very hard for us to move on. Thats what resulted people to lose their money because they are addicted of it
1703  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: can gambling give you lessons in life? on: December 22, 2017, 09:34:41 AM
Some lessons you will learn in gambling involves techniques and skills on how to gamble with a big chance of winning. Another lesson is when there comes a time you are miserably lost some big amount of bets and never recovered again.

Not at all because if you learn all that skills, it will not make you win or give you bigger chance to win. It helps you to win but that is hardly going to make you win. We still do need to rely on luck because that is the essential thing in gambling. In the end it is better not to think that we are going to win because the truth is hard to swallow that we cant win
1704  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: December 22, 2017, 09:27:37 AM
I tend to only play with my profits and do not gamble with much of what I have in capital.
It just not seem right to me to logically do this.
It is gambling after all. Undecided

Well, you can't really start it off by playing with your profits though as you need to play with your initial stake to even reach the stage of profit, no? Cheesy

Either way, you are correct that in the end it is gambling and it should not be taken lightly.

We should not be taking it lightly either, we should not be taking it all. In the end it is better not to gamble or you can get addicted. For me , I am having fun with the game that is why I enjoy playing. I use small amount as well so it doesnt matter if I lose. If you could think the same way as I do then you could gamble for fun as well otherwise it is a big no
1705  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 22, 2017, 09:24:56 AM
Money is the one who make people fools because of much being greedy to earn money, gambling is not good for most of people though very few are very lucky with ut who can eaen big pot of moneys that is why many are getting attracted.

People are greedy to get more money but we are not lucky that is why we are going to make the same mistake over and over again. That means we are going to lose money in a gambling site. Some people that get money from gambling is the reason why we keep on being attracted to come back and play that is why we are making mistake again
1706  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 22, 2017, 05:46:08 AM
It’s sad to hear your bad poker experience. People get better in this game with the passage of time. We just need to be careful about the timing of gambling and our earnings.

In poker game you could get better as to know your chances to win and how to bluff but sometimes in another game, getting better does not mean anything at all. Most people will not understand this because they think they are getting better and better everytime they play, so they keep going even if they lose . I totally think that this is very lame
1707  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can maths help you win in gambling ? on: December 22, 2017, 05:44:34 AM
How math can help a gambler to win a game because as far as my knowledge is concerned, gambling is totally a luck dependent thing. It is just like crossing a river just by looking with your eyes on to other bank. If math really was so helpful for the gambler to win the game.

Then all gamblers who have a good knowledge of math would have never lost any game they have played in their lives. Math can only help the gambler to maintain his records.

It does not mean that you cant los eif you are good in math but it means that you have a good chance to know your chance. It is like you are going to have better knowledge of your chances so you could make better decision to stop or to continue. Although I think that most gambler will not bother with this kind of thing as they will choose to continue
1708  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: December 21, 2017, 10:23:29 PM

for me it is a good decision...i will take may capital and secure it...so if i still want to gamble i will only use my profit and the excess of my winning..that way win or lose...my money or my capital are already secured.

If you lose after using your profit then you wont get anything at all. It is better to keep the profit that you have earned because if you are playing for profit then that is your goal. You need to secured the money that you have gotten otherwise there is no point for you to gamble. You might not lose only profit but also your initial bankroll
1709  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: December 21, 2017, 08:37:40 PM
It depends which type of gambling game we are playing, basically gambling is purely depends on the luck in the games like dice and in sports gambling skill is important there also need bit of luck, experience matters in certain games along with that need a stroke of luck.

It is not that kind of experience because the real thing is when we know when to stop. That is what I called as having enough experience that will matter in gambling. Aside from that , all kind of other experience wont matter at all because gambling is pure of luck game but somehow I think that having some is going to give small advantage to you sometimes but it wont help you to win
1710  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: December 21, 2017, 08:28:19 PM
it depends on the people I really have in mind when they enter into trading, investing okay gambling their money because the work of other people they want to earn fast because they need money so they enter the Such things, but gambling is just normal for people because gambling is just a gambling of such a way.

That's the truth. It's okay whenever you are trying to do something with your bitcoin. If you work hard and just waste your money on gambling without limits. Gambling is gambling, and that's all there is to it. If you think about it in some other way, then it would just make your mind worse.
Only if we are gambling irresponsibly where we lose money, it's easy to win as we think but more easier to lose because we will never win
when there is a house edge. That is gambling, they are support to be treated for fun activity so we will not regret losing big in the long run, let us not call it wrong because that is only our own mistake.
Yeah basically gambling turn wrong when you treat it improperly. It's for entertainment purposes but people get lured to make money from it which mathematically you can't win against the odds , the oddsmakers yeah. Always looks good when you imagine about how huge the winning you can get.

By using some math, we can know if we have the chance to win or not. We dont really need to know that because every gambling site is just programmed to make us disadvantage. It is great however to know what chance are we getting because basically some people could use that odds as their advantage to win money as well.

As example in sportsbook although the chance is low but some people like high multiplier bets for the underdog to win sometimes
1711  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: can gambling give you lessons in life? on: December 21, 2017, 07:44:34 PM
Good you lost only 20k in gambling  Cheesy. Some loses their houses, family and other properties. They lose even their wives being addicted to gambling. Some ends up very miserable in this gambling business and i really hope it will not happen in m6 family because it is very interesting in the beginning but it is very addictive.

Only a stupid people that is not going to learn from their mistake. Sometimes people think that they are doing it with only a small amount but when you keep repeating the same mistake over and over again that means it is madness not only stupid. he can stop but he choose not to stop so he just need to live with the consequences
1712  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: December 21, 2017, 04:17:21 PM
I'm talking about gambling quicker than it is but it's just too fast to beat it, but if trading is the way to earn more money because you're thinking about it well and you have an idea about it right now but I'm in gambling hard to win because most strategy that makes you lose even because every gambling is a risk taker only.
Every gamble needs a big luck behind, I think that's the difference between the two, luck also needed to make a good money inside trading but analysis will have a big role, knowing fundamentals and learning how to read the graph is our edge inside trading but with gambling we are just guessing and we are waiting for luck to accompany us to earn from this activity.

Luck is not really the crucial thing needed for trading because what matter the most in trading is not luck but it is information. If we know an information faster than anyone else then we will be able to secure a trade faster which means that we are getting advantage over the others. This kind of thing needs practice unlike gambling that 100 % rely on luck
1713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do we need to gamble? on: December 21, 2017, 11:02:07 AM
In our life, we gamble in order to survive. Sometime we win, sometime we lost but life must go on. But in real gambling world, not all people needs to gamble. Only those who have the inclination to gamble will. To them gambling is life.
|I do not think that people play gambling for survival, different people have different reason reason to play gambling. Some people after disappointment from finding day job they start gambling, while some people consider gambling as the short way of earning money and some people play gambling only for fun and enjoyment. My personal view is that we should not play gambling to fulfill our needs, but we should play gambling only for fun and for testing our luck, because gambling totally depend on our luck.

Thats not your personal view but it is something that everyone should do. When we see someone win alot of money, we want to be that kind of person as well but the truth is we cant. So instead of getting another dissapointment from gambling site then playing for fun with no expectation to win is the best thing that someone can do when they gamble
1714  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: December 21, 2017, 10:45:12 AM
the gamble can only help you win you but when you lose a gamble you'll find it bad in your life because it's the norm of others because I just gamble the way to make money with others better to find just work and earn money on this method because I'm in the gamble with winning and losing so it's useless when you lose gambling it can not help your life.

It is more useless when we cant win but we keep trying to win. We need some great luck to win and not everybody possess that. Overall gambling is only useless when you get nothing from it , we can get two things but it should be either fun or money. I am the guy that will choose to have fun over money when I gamble in a gambling site
1715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: December 20, 2017, 08:57:14 PM

Why are people addicted after they gamble? The answer is because gambling is an addictive game. Why is gambling addictive? Because gambling promises a lot of things we want. First, they promise us pleasure, by gambling we can have fun, who does not like having fun? Then gambling also promises profit if win, everyone likes profit, right?

Gambling didnt promise anything at all, it is us human that wants that . Deep down insider everyone, we want to win money that is why we become addicted to it. We play to get money but when we lose it is so frustating. Then we keep playing eventhough we lose, that made us lose alot more in the end but that trigger more addiction
1716  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: December 20, 2017, 08:35:36 PM
]I can not agree with your opinion, gambling is just a tool, a game, we can not judge it is right or wrong because it depends on the player, depending on our purpose when we come to gambling, if we use it for good purpose, it will be good and vice versa. It does not have awareness and thinking, if we are addicted and get the negative impact from it, it's our fault, not the fault of it, many people are very funny, they always blame gambling but they never look at their own actions, they do not recognize their faults, they only know complain and blame

For some people it is never going to be just a game because people are putting real money when they play it. When you use real money it is not matterof right or wrong. For me it is about wether you are doing it right or wrong. Doing it right means you are just playing for fun and definitely not wasting your money trying to win high amount
1717  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: December 20, 2017, 08:15:46 PM
That is true that is why we need to control ourselves by setting the money we can afford to lose.  Gambling is one of the thing that can relieve  us from stress but it may also work the other way around.  We can say it is a duouble edge sword.  It can benefit us but then it can also harm us.  But the good thing is, with proper management and moderation of our gambling activities, we can make this gambling beneficial to us.  It can be profitable in a way to relieve stress and if lucky add win and earn extra money.

It is not going to harm us if we dont let it harm us. For example, if we gamble with a huge amount and want to win alot of money then we ended up losing that means we are hurting ourselves . If we are only using small amount to play then that is not hurting us at all because we dont really bothered by the fact we lose small amount of money
1718  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: December 20, 2017, 06:43:05 PM
The best way to quit gambling for good is to discipline yourself, make sure when you decided to quit gambling for good you will do your best to stop your self from gambling again. Make sure not to bring extra money whenever you go out of your house and find ways to divert your craving for gambling. It's really difficult to break a bad habit, but keep in mind that you will benefit from it a lot once you forgot about gambling.

The best way is still to think that we are only here for fun. If we think like that, there is no way that we are going to not be able to control ourselves. My main concern is when people dont want to stop although they say that they are going to stop after losing some. That turns out to be bad habit which makes it not controllable anymore
1719  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Go to Land Based Casinos? on: December 19, 2017, 06:17:36 PM
Yeah i always want to go to the lane base Casino. It seems really interesting over there.

Depending on if you are able to be getting into one than that would be nice. If you live in my place then no such thing exist. I would want to visit a real gambling site one day as well because it should be better than when you are playing on gambling site. Some people even say that it is the best place for you to have some fun
1720  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Go to Land Based Casinos? on: December 19, 2017, 06:00:30 PM
Yeah i always want to go to the lane base Casino. It seems really interesting over there.

Depending on if you are able to be getting into one than that would be nice. If you live in my place then no such thing exist. I would want to visit a real gambling site one day as well because it should be better than when you are playing on gambling site. Some people even say that it is the best place for you to have some fun
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