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1721  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Need to know hashrates on these two cards on: July 22, 2017, 03:41:41 PM

The R7 290 is a DDR3 card, so I doubt it would be very efficient at mining Ethash, which is a memory intensive algorithm. There is a R7 290X card that has DDR5 memory and supposedly gets ~15 MH/s. ZEC would probably be a better option for that card.

http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/comment/19394/#Comment_19394

IMO, you would be better off going with a RX 560 or 1050 Ti cards, that get ~14 MH/s on ETH and are much more power efficient.

R7 290? Where you found such a card? And why respond about it when original poster asked for r7 240?

The R9 290 is a much better card, so R7 240 probably a couple MH/s on ETH at best.
1722  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Need to know hashrates on these two cards on: July 22, 2017, 03:15:45 PM
Hello, I was wondering how many hashes per second, the AMD Radeon R7 240 and NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX1060 produces on the following coins:
Ethereum
Zcash
Monero
Litecoin

LTC hasn't been profitable for GPU mining for years since scrypt minig was taken over by ASIC's. The R7 240 is only 2GB, so it won't work for ETH. The 1060 should get ~25 MH/s on ETH and ~300 H/s on ZEC.
The computer I am looking to purchase has this as the title
"Exper EXP-XC250 Xcellerator Gaming Intel Core I5-6402P-2.8Ghz Processor, 16Gb RAM, 1Tb Hdd, 4Gb GPU Windows 10 OS"

In the features table, it says that the GPU has 4 GB

The R7 290 is a DDR3 card, so I doubt it would be very efficient at mining Ethash, which is a memory intensive algorithm. There is a R7 290X card that has DDR5 memory and supposedly gets ~15 MH/s. ZEC would probably be a better option for that card.

http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/comment/19394/#Comment_19394

IMO, you would be better off going with a RX 560 or 1050 Ti cards, that get ~14 MH/s on ETH and are much more power efficient.
1723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Need to know hashrates on these two cards on: July 22, 2017, 02:55:21 PM
Hello, I was wondering how many hashes per second, the AMD Radeon R7 240 and NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX1060 produces on the following coins:
Ethereum
Zcash
Monero
Litecoin

LTC hasn't been profitable for GPU mining for years since scrypt minig was taken over by ASIC's. The R7 240 is only 2GB, so it won't work for ETH. The 1060 should get ~25 MH/s on ETH and ~300 H/s on ZEC.
1724  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASrock H110 Pro BTC+ 13 GPU Board on: July 22, 2017, 01:34:02 PM
13 gpus all running stablibly without needing to shut down to cool off?
Now I got to see that.

I expect an RMA in the first week or two of running it.
Will be following the progress of this project (and yes I say project since it is still in the experimental phase) via the twitter someone posted earlier.
Only time will tell. Undecided

AngryChicken on YouTube has had an 11 GPU on a rig for a while now on a motherboard that's not even designed for that many GPU's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPGxVUaSdvc
1725  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining ETH or ETC on: July 22, 2017, 12:54:17 PM
UBIQ is a sleeper that could overtake ETC as the best ETH clone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c50mArc7bR4
1726  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASrock H110 Pro BTC+ 13 GPU Board on: July 22, 2017, 12:23:58 PM
Got mine and thought I'd stick a single GPU onto the board to get it going whilst I wait for the rest of the new ones to come.... when I power it up, the CPU, GPU and PSU fan do one turn and then nothing!  Great, there goes my weekend!  In case anyone spots something, I have;

Pentium G4400 CPU
Corsair AX760 PSU (will change obviously when I add to it)
1 single memory stick ; corsair value select DDR4.  4GB.  (this is the only difference I can see, maybe I should put 2 sticks in)
EVGA GTX 1060, (have 2 to try for now, but want to get it running on 1 first)
Hard disk (yes, I know, I have a ton of old raptors kicking around, so I use them on the rigs)

So there you go, a simple setup but nothing works.  As I say, press the power and it jumps into a short life, then nothing.  So I have something very wrong.  Any advice would help, cheers.

Have you plugged in the 8-pin CPU power from the PSU in to the motherboard? Also make sure the motherboard is not resting on anything metal, causing a short.
1727  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASrock H110 Pro BTC+ 13 GPU Board on: July 22, 2017, 11:28:30 AM

400 MH/s for 10 1080 Ti's, 1 1080 and 1 1070 is not that impressive. 15 RX 570 4 GB cards will easily give you 420 MH/s ETH, 10.5 GH/s DCR dual mining and cost you less than half what those cards cost you.
1728  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big. on: July 21, 2017, 04:45:32 PM
With this DAG epoch increasing and amd rx eth hashrates decreasing.. Anyone considering selling their amd rx cards for nvidia cards?


Will these amd rx cards not be great for eth soon? At least they should still be fine for zec but what is the best plan going forward (besides selling them and holding cash/coin)

Keep the amd rx cards or trade them for nvidia cards?

Hashrate decreasing HuhHuh

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1977653.msg19686243#msg19686243


Everyone believing click bait articles overstating the DAG epoch problem, congrats you got played!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.msg20282912#msg20282912

I tested EXP,  ETC, and ETH. The two with large DAG files hash slower. EXP's DAG is much smaller and mines at full speed. This was all tested on Windows + Claymore.  Other setups don't suffer from this .  

The articles were overstating the hash drop from the Claymore epoch benchmarks. In my own testing the the actual drop was less than 0.1 MH/s per card for every new epoch, nowhere near the '30% incoming' they were stating. They also made no mention the ETH block times are getting longer from the programmed ICE AGE, so even if nothing was done to correct the issue, it would take more than 9 months to reach the benchmark stated 25% hash drop at epoch 160.
1729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big. on: July 21, 2017, 04:26:22 PM
With this DAG epoch increasing and amd rx eth hashrates decreasing.. Anyone considering selling their amd rx cards for nvidia cards?


Will these amd rx cards not be great for eth soon? At least they should still be fine for zec but what is the best plan going forward (besides selling them and holding cash/coin)

Keep the amd rx cards or trade them for nvidia cards?

Hashrate decreasing HuhHuh

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1977653.msg19686243#msg19686243


Everyone believing click bait articles overstating the DAG epoch problem, congrats you got played!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.msg20282912#msg20282912
1730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v9.7 (Windows/Linux) on: July 21, 2017, 04:23:36 PM
The DAG epoch issue: it seems AMD fixed it for Vega in drivers and now they are working on Polaris. New drivers will be available soon, may be in two weeks or so.

Thanks AMD. Smart move! Everyone believing click bait articles overstating the DAG epoch problem, congrats you got played!
1731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Asrock H81 pro BTC r2.0 wont post on: July 20, 2017, 03:39:23 PM
Did you plug in the 8-pin cpu power from the PSU to the motherboard?
1732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big. on: July 20, 2017, 02:13:16 PM

My hope is the 1080 ti's drift up a bit  as I would sell them off.  I am a bit tired of mining as it is.
 

Say it aint so..... are you just getting low earnings? My 30 day average as of today after deducting my power cost is $4.71 per 1080ti card since all i have is 1080ti's at the moment.

They make about 4.50. Each  a day for me after power costs.

But for me summer power is costly,  so I would sell off all of the above.

As it would be all profit and less work.

Remember I am older (60) and can get run down a bit easier then some younger members.

$6000 in RX 470/570 4GB cards bought at even $220 each = 27 cards = 800 MH/s = $1500/month profit mining ETH alone.

https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/ethereum-mining-calculator/?h=800&p=4200&pc=0.10&pf=4&d=1250382090840260&r=5.00000000&er=0.09137238&btcer=2496.33120000&hc=0.00

As I said, the AMD RX series are already the best card in profit/cost currently. I don't see the value in selling those cards to replace them with 1080 Ti cards costing 3 times as much to make $4/day each, when the cards you already have are making $2/day each and cost 3 times less. Unless you plan on quitting mining there is no point in selling RX series cards that are paid off, as there are currently no better cards to replace them with.


Stubborn you completely ignore crash and burn . Of coins in general .

You assume you will continue to earn at current rates.

You toss out a certain 6000 for a possible higher profit.

No way would I toss away 6000 sure profit.

Chasing the chance for higher profit.

I never said buy 1080 ti's

I said sell the paid off 6000   And add 6000 certain profit.

Keep 3000 in cash. And if you want hold 3000 in coins.

Mining involves refreshment of gear. It also involves strategy beyond actuall mining.

I am now sitting on a smaller leaner setup with less work and profits in hand.

An absolute certain winner.

You are throwing out certain profit in hope of greater profit.

Now if your power is 2 or 3 cents. You have a point.

But if you are 10 cent or power your method is too risky .

We have had 16 solid months of profit.  Btc is doing a huge restructure .

You fully toss out perfect chance at a 100 percent profit. By holding on to the paid off rx 480s.

Btw it does not mean your method will make less money then my method.

If you are mining with cards that are already paid off you are already a winner and as long as you keep mining, will continue to accumulate value through coins for the cost of your power bill regardless of what happens.

There is no reason to upgrade RX series cards at this moment. I would also say you can reasonably expect to recover close to 50% of your initial $6000 on RX 470/570 series cards even one year from now, so you only need to make up $3000 going forward by continuing to mine to come out ahead rather than selling your cards now for 100%. Sure the market could crash at any time, but historically you have a better chance of coming out ahead if you hold rather than sell.
1733  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Ordered 1080 ti Received 1060 lol on: July 20, 2017, 01:34:29 PM
I also bought a RX 480 from Amazon that was sold by Amazon as new. The card they shipped had obviously been repackaged and the serial number didn't even match the label on the box. I decided to give it a try, since they are no longer available anywhere. I had to return the card after no matter what I did, the card would not mine for more than 2 minutes before crashing. So they clearly sold me a defective card that had been returned instead of sending it back to the manufacturer.
1734  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big. on: July 20, 2017, 12:15:15 PM

My hope is the 1080 ti's drift up a bit  as I would sell them off.  I am a bit tired of mining as it is.
 

Say it aint so..... are you just getting low earnings? My 30 day average as of today after deducting my power cost is $4.71 per 1080ti card since all i have is 1080ti's at the moment.

They make about 4.50. Each  a day for me after power costs.

But for me summer power is costly,  so I would sell off all of the above.

As it would be all profit and less work.

Remember I am older (60) and can get run down a bit easier then some younger members.

$6000 in RX 470/570 4GB cards bought at even $220 each = 27 cards = 800 MH/s = $1500/month profit mining ETH alone.

https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/ethereum-mining-calculator/?h=800&p=4200&pc=0.10&pf=4&d=1250382090840260&r=5.00000000&er=0.09137238&btcer=2496.33120000&hc=0.00

As I said, the AMD RX series are already the best card in profit/cost currently. I don't see the value in selling those cards to replace them with 1080 Ti cards costing 3 times as much to make $4/day each, when the cards you already have are making $2/day each and cost 3 times less. Unless you plan on quitting mining there is no point in selling RX series cards that are paid off, as there are currently no better cards to replace them with.
1735  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big. on: July 20, 2017, 03:02:56 AM
I would disagree. The Crypto market is growing exponetially as evidenced by the exploding market caps over the past two years. IMO that will continue as more people start paying attention to $2000+ BTC. ETH hasn't even begun to shown it's development platform potential. In any given time period investments can go up or down. That's called risk and is true about any investment, mining is no different. The diffrence is with a mining rig that's paid off, your set costs are essentailly the same no matter what coin you mine. Historically those that take a long term approch and mine coins they believe in do much better than those that just look at short term profits. Just like those that were mining LTC or Dash when ASICS took those coins over in 2014. I stopped mining at the end of 2014 after it was no longer profitable. I got back in earlier this year and and looking back, it was a mistake not to have just kept mining. I did keep most of the coins I mined and for the most part, I'm glad I did.

AMD RX series cards that were bought for close to the original MSRP are more profitable in hash/cost than any other cards available at the moment. I currently don't see a reason or better options to replace cards that i'm currently making $2 a day profit per card with.

What were you mining back in 2014? 2015 2013?  The algorithms keep up with the technology.  You can't mine ETH on a card from 2014 2012/2013.  The DAG file is too big to fit in 1/2GB of VRAM.

You can always make more money on "old" equipment, That's not in debate.  However,   are you positioning yourself to keep up with an exponentially evolving marketplace?  


Towards the end of 2014 when I stopped I mostly mined new coins with a low diff since I only had a couple of Pitcarin cards and that was the only thing that was profitable. The 2GB cards I have are still profitable to mine ZEC at ~195 H/s. You can also mine other new Ethash coins like UBIQ that have a smaller Dag file. The RX cards I bought are already the best choice in hash/cost for most algorithms, I don't see that changing any time soon, especially with how overpriced all cards are ATM, so why fix what's not broken?  Keep making money or accumulating coins with the cards that are paid off and if you need to upgrade, then you can sell the cards or some of the coins and buy more cards.
1736  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big. on: July 20, 2017, 02:11:00 AM
I would disagree. The Crypto market is growing exponetially as evidenced by the exploding market caps over the past two years. IMO that will continue as more people start paying attention to $2000+ BTC. ETH hasn't even begun to shown it's development platform potential. The same goes for other coins. In any given time period investments can go up or down. That's called risk and is part of any investment, mining is no different. The diffrence is with a mining rig that's paid off, your set costs are essentailly the same no matter what coin you mine.

Historically those that take a long term approch and mine coins they believe in do much better than those that just look at short term profits. Just like those that were mining LTC or Dash when ASICS took those coins over in 2014. I stopped mining at the end of 2014 after it was no longer profitable. I got back in earlier this year and and looking back, it was a mistake not to have just kept mining. I did keep most of the coins I mined and for the most part, I'm glad I did.

AMD RX series cards that were bought for close to the original MSRP are more profitable in hash/cost than any other cards available at the moment. I currently don't see a reason or better options to replace cards that i'm currently making $2 a day profit per card with.
1737  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Question for mining rig dual PSU. on: July 20, 2017, 01:19:45 AM
would 2 x 750 PSU be enough for 6 x RX580 8GB rig?

also this have been bothering me for a while. might be a stupid question but don't laugh. what does "on/from/out of the wall" means?  Tongue

Depends if you dual mine or not. I have a 6 card rig with 4 RX 480/580, 1 RX 570 and one 1080. I use an EVGA 1000W P2 with 6 PCI-E connectors for the VGA power inputs only and use an EVGA 750W P2 for the motherboard and all the risers. Dual mining the VGA's draw ~805W and 360W for the motherboard and risers. If you dual mine, you might be able to get two 850W to work, but I would go with the 1000W so you have enough PCI-E connectors for the cards.
1738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big. on: July 20, 2017, 01:06:01 AM

 It would seem you missed the insane gouge pricing on RX 470/480/570/580 models that have put most of them *WHEN AVAILABLE AT ALL* commonly into GTX 1070 and sometimes GTX 1080 price levels the last 2-3 months.


 ETH network hashrate has stagnated for about a week now, I do NOT see it going up 40% or even 10% unless the price makes a serious move upwards.

 Profitability isn't much IF ANY better right now than it was the middle of last summer, when ETH hashrate was climbing a few percent A MONTH most months.



Selling cards that
About Amd card, that's why I talked about roied ones. (they seems out of stock worldwide)

About GT1070 , their prices went up too ...

I agree with you for the others things. Profitability in December/January (before price surge) was way lower than last summer.

this is because your style of play is all out.  my thoughts are  if it all crashes and burns  your shot at selling the paid for cards at retail or retail plus is gone .

so if you have 6000 retail in rx cards paid you can get 6000 retail or maybe 6200 retail.

and  keep 3100 in cash and 3100 in some type of coin.

an absolute certain win of 3100 cash  and if the coin you held  stays hot and goes up  you have a certain win that become bigger.

if the coin you held drops to 500  you still have the 500 worth of coin  and the 3100 cash.

if the market bombs  and you did not sell the cards will drop to 1000 or so in value.  giving you

1000 and maybe 200 or 300 in coin.   well under   3100 and 500 in coin.




now all my numbers do not take into account free power factor.

if you are a true free power guy  just mine as the cards always earn something.




Mining isn't always about ROI or even making your power bill. Selling cards that are paid off now only makes sense if you are planning to quit mining. Otherwise you are left with rebuying overpriced cards compared to the cards you sold and extentending your ROI all over again. i don't see the value in that. People that were mining ETH at a loss after power when it was <$10 and accumulating several coins a week with a 6 card rig towards the end of last year did a much better now than those that sold the rig.
1739  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: gpu bubble well and truly bursting on: July 19, 2017, 10:50:06 PM
Where does it say POS will start with Metropolis? Isn't POS hybrid going to start in Serenity/Casper at end of 2017, first quarter 2018?

My understanding is the Metropolis release will begin the move to POS. That was the point of the difficulty bomb leading up to it.

All I heard was that Metropolis will have no Hybrid POS but instead they will reduce the ETH issusance rate to match the difficulty bomb rate.

So extend difficulty bomb another 6 months or so but if block times are 30 seconds make the ETH reward 2.5 ETH per block and make blocktimes 15 seconds again.

But even now, its still unclear which plan will be final with the release.

As stated in the dev meeting, the block times will be over 30 seconds by September and closer to 45 seconds by November. Somewhere around 3 ETH is what was discussed as the block reward change. The difficulty bomb retarget  will make it unprofitable to mine much sooner unless they diffuse the bomb or lower the block times before it was planned, at the same time they release Metropolis.
1740  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: gpu bubble well and truly bursting on: July 19, 2017, 10:32:08 PM
Where does it say POS will start with Metropolis? Isn't POS hybrid going to start in Serenity/Casper at end of 2017, first quarter 2018?

My understanding is the Metropolis release will begin the move to POS. That was the point of the difficulty bomb leading up to it.
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