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1721  Other / Off-topic / Re: What Song are you Listening To? on: October 30, 2014, 02:24:17 PM
PJ Harvey - The Whore's Hustle & The Hustler's Whore

<edit> Now I'm listening to AC/DC - Back in Black
1722  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 30, 2014, 02:15:00 PM
This constantly quoting picture's of idiotic nonsense (fun in the beginning, but a pain in the end) need's to stop, and since the OP asked me to continue this thread, I shall ask ya to stop quoting every quote?

There's nowt worse than having to scroll through too many quote's, for the next line which has nothing to do with anything quoted?

If the fuckin spagetti brain didnae eat so much bolognese, he'd know how to start his own thread, solely in order to promote said shit..
Can you not take the hint, or plain stupid?

First of all, IDGAF about what you say. You are the biggest flaming idiot here, whose contributions are often little more than just gibberish and insults. Second, why the fuck would the OP ask you (of all people) to babysit this thread? Regardless, if the OP felt the need to moderate this thread, he would've made it moderated. Third, if ever you don't like what you see and feel it should be moderated, then just hit the "Report to mod" button. We are actually on topic whereas you are not. Go here and here if you really want to learn of my god's existence, but we all know you won't because of your linkaphobia. Now either contribute something worthwhile or kindly fuck off and leave the adults to their discussion about god.
1723  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 30, 2014, 07:47:30 AM

The FSM is meant to be an analogue of a polytheistic god, not a monotheistic one.  There's a huge difference between the two.  Same thing goes for the teapot orbiting Venus.

Could you source your argument for me? I couldn't find anywhere that the FSM is a polytheistic god. As a matter of fact, what I found seems to describe it as being a monotheistic one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

This is from the wiki:

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Because of its popularity and exposure, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is often used as a contemporary version of Russell's teapot

Now, referring to the teapot...

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Russell wrote that if he claims that a teapot orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, it is nonsensical for him to expect others to believe him on the grounds that they cannot prove him wrong. Russell's teapot is still referred to in discussions concerning the existence of God.

So, there you go.  Likening FSM to a monotheistic god is stupid because FSM is likened to a teapot, and likening a teapot to a monotheistic god is also stupid.
That argument is a logical fallacy. First of all, using your argument, there is no need to differentiate between monotheistic or polytheistic gods, since your argument is simply to state that "it's stupid". Second, if anything, Russel's Teapot and the FSM are true examples of monotheistic gods, whereby those theologies make no mention of there being any other gods in existance. On the other hand, the chistian god (which I assume you are using as your example) is actually a fine example for a polytheistic god, as it is made up of a Holy Trinity, being the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Furthermore, the majority of god worshipping people on this planet would agree that the chirstian god is a false god, since they believe the real one to be a different god such as Allah or Buddha. (Actually Buddha is not seen as being a god, but you get my meaning.)

What exactly do you mean that my argument implies that there is no need to differentiate between mono- and polytheistic gods?  Of course you need to differentiate between the two, which is exactly why using space teapots and flying noodles as analogues to a monotheistic god is invalid.  My argument wasn't that it's stupid, it's that the FSM is likened to a teapot (i.e. a conditional event) which is then likened to a monotheistic god (i.e. a unconditionally necessary event).  I'm not just using the word 'stupid' without explaining why.

How is a space teapot or the FSM like a monotheistic god?  I'm not sure why you think this would be the case.  Monotheistic gods are often described as omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent.  If that's the case, it would be akin to being a fly on an elephant such that, no matter which empirical angle you select, you will never be able to observe the whole elephant in it's entirety.  This is why monotheistic gods are beyond the scope of empirical study.  A space teapot/FSM, however, is not.  Point the Hubble towards the sun's orbit and you will conclusively be able to determine whether a teapot exists there (same goes for FSM).

And I'm not specifically talking about the Christian god.  I don't belong to any religion.  I'm mostly going by the "omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent" definition of God which I find to be most common.
The word monotheism comes from the Greek monos, which means one, and theos, which means god. Thus, monotheism is a belief in the existence of a single god. Polytheism, is the belief in many gods. Neither definition specifies whether such gods need be "omnipotent, omniscient, or omnipresent" as there is no need for them to be as such. Therefore the teapot and FSM do qualify as being monotheistic gods in this respect.

Also, there is no need to liken the FSM to the teapot, just as there is no need to liken either of them to any other gods any more than there is a need to make any comparisons between Buddha and Allah. It was your choice to do so, but it was incorrect to assume it necessary to define any of them. Therefore I'd just like to reiterate, that the teapot and FSM are indeed monotheistic gods. Now if you like you can argue that they aren't as impressive as an "omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent" god, but that in itself does not make them any less valid, just less appealing to worship. BTW, since it is stated that the FSM is the one and only god and it did create the universe, I do believe it is just as worthy of being worshipped as much as any other god you may have in mind.

<edit> Wow, it's late. Good night all.  Smiley
1724  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 30, 2014, 06:27:27 AM

The FSM is meant to be an analogue of a polytheistic god, not a monotheistic one.  There's a huge difference between the two.  Same thing goes for the teapot orbiting Venus.

Could you source your argument for me? I couldn't find anywhere that the FSM is a polytheistic god. As a matter of fact, what I found seems to describe it as being a monotheistic one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

This is from the wiki:

Quote
Because of its popularity and exposure, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is often used as a contemporary version of Russell's teapot

Now, referring to the teapot...

Quote
Russell wrote that if he claims that a teapot orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, it is nonsensical for him to expect others to believe him on the grounds that they cannot prove him wrong. Russell's teapot is still referred to in discussions concerning the existence of God.

So, there you go.  Likening FSM to a monotheistic god is stupid because FSM is likened to a teapot, and likening a teapot to a monotheistic god is also stupid.
That argument is a logical fallacy. First of all, using your argument, there is no need to differentiate between monotheistic or polytheistic gods, since your argument is simply to state that "it's stupid". Second, if anything, Russell's Teapot and the FSM are true examples of monotheistic gods, whereby those theologies make no mention of there being any other gods in existance. On the other hand, the chistian god (which I assume you are using as your example) is actually a fine example for a polytheistic god, as it is made up of a Holy Trinity, being the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Furthermore, the majority of god worshipping people on this planet would agree that the chirstian god is a false god, since they believe the real one to be a different god such as Allah or Buddha. (Actually Buddha is not seen as being a god, but you get my meaning.)
1725  Other / Off-topic / Re: What YouTube video are you watching now? on: October 30, 2014, 04:40:53 AM
Another video in the spirit of Halloween.  Grin
SNL - Chandelier Spoof - Jim Carrey - Kate Mckinnon
1726  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real. on: October 30, 2014, 04:30:49 AM

But he still says that it requires a creator at the beginning to start everything going of course. If he didn't, that would be a major change. xD
Does anyone think this will help keep intelligent design off school curriculum in America?
If anything I think this will be used as an argument to reconsider it. If so, I hope the Pastafarians rise to the occasion and claim their right to equal time.

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In December 2007, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster was credited with spearheading successful efforts in Polk County, Florida, to dissuade the Polk County School Board from adopting new science standards on evolution. The issue was raised after five of the seven board members declared a personal belief in intelligent design. Opponents describing themselves as Pastafarians e-mailed members of the Polk County School Board demanding equal instruction time for the Flying Spaghetti Monster.[82] Board member Margaret Lofton, who supported intelligent design, dismissed the e-mail as ridiculous and insulting, stating, "they've made us the laughing stock of the world". Lofton later stated that she had no interest in engaging with the Pastafarians or anyone else seeking to discredit intelligent design. As the controversy developed, scientists expressed opposition to intelligent design. In response to hopes for a new "applied science" campus at the University of South Florida in Lakeland, university vice president Marshall Goodman expressed surprise, stating, "[intelligent design is] not science. You can't even call it pseudo-science." While unhappy with the outcome, Lofton chose not to resign over the issue. She and the other board members expressed a desire to return to the day-to-day work of running the school district.
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According to Justin Pope of the Associated Press,
    Between the lines, the point of the letter was this: there's no more scientific basis for intelligent design than there is for the idea an omniscient creature made of pasta created the universe. If intelligent design supporters could demand equal time in a science class, why not anyone else? The only reasonable solution is to put nothing into sciences classes but the best available science.
    —Justin Pope
1727  Other / Off-topic / Re: Favorite porn star? on: October 30, 2014, 04:12:14 AM
I just realized Eminem and I have the same taste in porn stars. Cheesy He's had both Jenna Jameson (2009) and Sasha Grey (2011) in a couple of his videos. Both girls have been mentioned a lot in this thread, but I can't believe no-one has mentioned Kaylani Lei. Am I the only one who likes her?
1728  Other / Off-topic / Re: Share photos of sexy Latin beauty. on: October 30, 2014, 02:01:25 AM
1729  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pictures from Russia. on: October 30, 2014, 01:47:59 AM

Wow! She has the same hairdo as Vod!  Grin
Her (oYo) are nicer than his.  Kiss
1730  Other / Off-topic / Re: Let's talk about how hot Asian girls are. [NSFW] on: October 30, 2014, 01:29:39 AM
1731  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pictures from Russia. on: October 30, 2014, 01:25:15 AM
Russians are so badass.

How many Russians You know personally? And from what ethnic group?

I would say unoriginal.  Looks like Russians are just stealing stereotypes that were pioneered by Alaskans, Canadians, Finns and Swedes.

By the way, Alaska is a former Russian territory. Finland used to be a part of Russia for more than 100 years. Canada has many descendants of people who moved from Russia in the end of 19 century.

Early Medieval Ruthenian culture did not exist until the Rurikans (Swedes) came in.  Russia took its' culture from Sweden

But that early culture was completely supplanted when the Golden Horde hanate invaded from the east and gave Ruthenian culture two options: submit or die. Russia, unlike Ukraine, submitted, and for centuries its culture came from Mongolia. I suspect most of the sweede had gone from it by the time they became independent again.

Sorry, what  Shocked ? Ukraine? The Ukraine did not exist at the mentioned time yet.

Not speaking that Russia have never been conquered by Sweden (yes we had a war, but actually it was a war started by the whole Europe against Russia), what happens when some nation invades into the territories of another nation and stays there for centuries? Kids get born. Then tell me, why there is no even slight trace of the genes typical for Mongolians among people populating Russian territories? Not at all.  There is a lot more other inconsistencies in all this Golden Horde "theory" that I have no will to discuss.

Really? I'm not pretending to know Russian history (at all), but if what you say is true, then please explain this photo.

1732  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 30, 2014, 01:17:44 AM
It's official. I have found god!



Well, at least one that I can say I believe in with as much faith as any other one. I am a Pastafarian convert now. I just wish I had known about this religion before I got my new driver's license photo taken, so I could've worn the proper religious headgear. (aka - a colander)



I was sold once I learned Heaven is a stripper factory inside a beer volcano! (Hell is the same except the beer is stale and the strippers have STDs. LOL!)



May you be forever touched by His Noodly Appendage.

R'amen!
1733  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are you going as for Halloween? on: October 30, 2014, 12:14:39 AM
I think I'll be going as a Pastafarian for Halloween and possibly continue for the rest of my life, or at least until the machines take over and insist I worship the Singularity as the one true (up-to-date) god.
1734  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 29, 2014, 10:04:04 PM
I find it quite boring and egotistical of a monotheistic god to insist it is the one and only god. Aren't more gods far more interesting and just as likely to be true? Isn't it about time we invented some new gods, anyways? The ones we have to date are so antiquated.  Tongue
1735  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 29, 2014, 09:53:29 PM

The FSM is meant to be an analogue of a polytheistic god, not a monotheistic one.  There's a huge difference between the two.  Same thing goes for the teapot orbiting Venus.

Could you source your argument for me? I couldn't find anywhere that the FSM is a polytheistic god. As a matter of fact, what I found seems to describe it as being a monotheistic one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
1736  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 29, 2014, 08:31:46 PM
Now even "Stupidity" is a religion  Smiley

Now? It always has been. Religion couldn't exist without it.  Roll Eyes
1737  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 29, 2014, 08:05:34 PM

Vod, I have to argue against you here.  The FSM is in no way a valid counter argument to the existence of a monotheistic god.
1738  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: October 29, 2014, 08:00:03 PM
would anyone want to meet the man who cheated on his tomato?

Or, meet the woman obsessed with carrots?



Did you know she has 35 carrot tattoos?  Huh
http://www.odditycentral.com/funny/carrot-obsessed-woman-covers-her-body-with-tattoos-of-the-vegetable.html
1739  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real. on: October 29, 2014, 07:41:31 PM
So, when is the new bible edition expected to come out? What's this one gonna be called? The Newest (and Final) Testament (I Swear)Roll Eyes
1740  Other / Off-topic / Re: The great debate - dank vs vod on: October 29, 2014, 07:13:55 PM
There will come a day when I and many others create a society driven by unity rather than division.  The time is not yet right.

And dankcoin will be the currency of choice.   Roll Eyes

You're nothing but a joke to us, Sean.  You've proven your word is worthless.

If you actually read the description of dankcoin it calls for people to use the coin up until a date where we collectively stop using the coin and use all of our earnings from it to create a sustainable society of love.

Wait, wtf, there's actually a dankcoin? I thought Vod was being hilarious. Turns out he was, but not for the reason I thought!

Hes stating his failure to pay a loan, and past history of scamming that it can be called as his own coin for more scams.

But you can see his trust ripped apart for a reason. Theres a scammer tag, and its shown if he replies on the market threads.

In his tag is based on 52 btc loan he didnt pay back.. so yeah he scammed someone name squall.

No, read Dank's quote:

If you actually read the description of dankcoin it calls for people to use the coin up until a date where we collectively stop using the coin and use all of our earnings from it to create a sustainable society of love.

That's what made me think he tried to launch his own coin.

Yeah, it's in his signature.
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