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1721  Other / Off-topic / Re: Merit System Upgrade on: February 17, 2018, 06:32:55 AM
You should have the time to read their OP or you really probably don't deserve their time or merit; would you say that's fair?

It is very clear what the rules/expectations are in the OP. I would answer more directly, but all I would do is quote OP entirely.

I already read the OP and here is his/her statement:
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You will ask me to research your post history and direct me to 10-20 posts that you believe show you have a deep desire to learn about, use, and support bitcoin. I will then ask you a couple of questions about how bitcoin works and you will answer them. I don’t care if you take some time to research the answer if you come up with the correct answer.

From this I can understand that he will search our post history by himeself but most of the people are posting their links to their posts includes you thats why I asked like that bro.
1722  Other / Off-topic / Re: Merit System Upgrade on: February 17, 2018, 05:36:30 AM
How to ask for thr merit review in this thread?

Is that I need to post links to the quality posts of mine here?Or you will check it by yourself?

If you need links then it is below:
1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2191432.msg30325260#msg30325260
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2895360.msg30256462#msg30256462
3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2847812.msg30251599#msg30251599

*I mostly concentrate of service discussion and altcoin section,so I don't have more posts in bitcoin discussion.
1723  Other / Meta / Re: Where are the merit sources? on: February 17, 2018, 05:13:22 AM
Yeah just like QA said in my thread (and i like how he thinks), there is no board boundary to gives merit, so if people giving their merit on meta or local board, i guess it is not a sin, local board has some people talking about bitcoin too. That is why i asked you, why dont you try to ask people of bitcoin discussion to give merits?  Why dont you engage people there instead of accusing the merit given in the meta is not well deserved.
See you dont get what i have said. You said that merit failed to fight spam, i said it cant be succesful if there are no adjustment in other aspect like campaign rules, and im just saying an example of rules which can make all the shitposter gone, since most of them all here for the money, they will leave the forum once they feel they cant apply to a bounty/campaign because getting merit is hard, or they will grow up and become a good poster, then the shitposting and spamming will be reduced.
I like your thread,and I am not angry at you or the other people on the meta section,I didn't say it is a sin to merit in meta but you don't get my point the merits are only circulating in the meta section.

Why I have to ask to people for merits? and begging for merit is a sin in my opinion.
I thought we have merit sources for every section and their work is to find the quality posts.

I am saying to all the legendary members engage into the bitcoin discussions too other than meta section which is only about the discussing about forum not about bitcoin.

Yeah we need to change the rules of the signature campaign or it is better to completely stop signature campaigns from our forum then all the shit posters will fade away.

1724  Other / Meta / Re: Where are the merit sources? on: February 16, 2018, 06:43:40 PM
You do miss one thing again that all of my merits is not come only from the source, and why do you so angry to all meta people who got merits? I guess not all of them get it from sources, maybe from user to other user, so if you dont get it from bitcoin discussion, why dont you try to ask people of bitcoin discussion why they dont give merits? And if you want statistic about which board getting merit, feel free to look at my statistic about QA and you will be amazed on what board is getting merit from QA which will render all of your argument near to meaningless. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2947171.msg30272338#msg30272338
With the number of merit circulated by now, all of the good posts can not be meritted because the amount is small now, i dont agree with this kind of things too. But adding more sources without background checking the candidate thoroughly will only make merit system as an useless commodity later, eg alt-account as a merit source, black market seller of merit, low standart judgement of which post is good, etc.
Merit is intended to fight spam, but merit cant do it alone, it needs activity point, and the member of this forum too. There must be a change in the rules of several aspect, like campaign will need merit to receive higher payment ( a manager applied this to a campaign which i joined), campaigner needs a lot of merit to apply ( which i joined now), bounty rank restriction (i see this already happen now as bounty only for member now). Im not being a cocky person here,but this is where this forum heading right now, if we dont change ourselves, we will left behind. And i am just as scared as you, scared to be left behind.
I didn't say all of your merits came from merit sources,I said all of your merits came from meta section.You can check that most of the merits are shared only in META section.And I just saw that QuestionAuthority is doing a good thing by sharing more merits to the bitcoin discussion.As of now he sent total of 1012 Smerits to others and half of them for the bitcoin related post(I think).But there were 71346 sMerits shared until now and most of them are in meta section and in local boards.But the main discussion of our forum is bitcoin so it doesn't get what it deserved.
I am not talking about joining about signature campaign bro,if you are earning merits for that purpose I can't say anything about it.
Honestly, I think that high members ranks are more eligible for the merit source than lower ranks, they have more merit points to award. The right question is:" Why merit sources are mostly given merit points to high ranks members, instead, to give more merit points to low ranks members who deserve that?"

I know "merit system" is very good to improve the forum, but I don't know why I always see great posts which didn't have any single point of merit. I think high member ranks (most of them) don't care too much about low ranks who they try to improve their posts quality.

Exactly...
1725  Other / Meta / Re: Where are the merit sources? on: February 16, 2018, 05:52:01 PM
There is one thing that is missing from your aspect of thinking. Merit sources is only a human, they have their own life, they have other works, etc, they can not be here 24 hours a day and 7 days a week. They are not bot who can gives all their time and energy to this forum 24/7. So they can not go all over the posts to search for quality post, that is why some of them make a thread like QuestionAuthority did. And i guess it is not begging if we help them pointing out our best post, its just make their work easier.
That is why theymos himself stated that he needs an established member which he can trust to be a source from a specific board, because he knows that people have their favorite board/section.
Ohhh god,can you understand what I am trying to say here,the merits are only shared in the particular section which is META,and I just saw all your secieved merits all of them are from meta section.
So,that's why no merits have been shared in other sections that is my point to say here.
so do you agree that all the good posts can't be merited?
So I think we need more merit sources for each and every section then only we can reward the quality posts. Smiley
1726  Other / Meta / Re: Where are the merit sources? on: February 16, 2018, 05:11:23 PM
I really like his idea that only merits for quality posts about the bitcoin since many people are sharing merits in the meta section.But I think he is a merit source since he is the most merit sender of our forum until so his job is to find the good quality posts,not to ask post a quality post in his thread.

He started the thread first and then was made a merit source because of it. He does also look around for things to merit other than people coming to him.

I think I agree with some of the other comments here, a lot of merit is given in Meta because that's where most of the conversation has been happening since the system was introduced. There quite a lot in the Bitcoin Development & Technical Discussion and Bitcoin Technical Support as well. I think Bitcoin Discussion is still mostly signature spammers that already have high-level accounts but you can find a bit more discussion going on there now. As TMAN just said give it a few months and I think you'll see a bigger improvement.

Finally you understand that what I am trying to say,the people need to merit good quality posts in other sections too.Yeah the system needs time to sttle so let's see what will heppen. Smiley
By the way this forum is created for discuss about bitcoin but most of the merits are only given to the META section which is only dicsuss about thr forum,so bitcoin discussion doesn't desevrves merits?
The bitcoin disscussion section is basicly a play ground for shitposters, all the topics are spammed by poeple who are trying to post just for signature campaigns, so there are hardly any good posts that actually add something that has been not mentioned yet, and even if there are some good posts the merit sources, or people with merits to give don't actually have the time or the patience to go through 5 or 6 pages of bad posts to find the one that actually is good quality and deserves to be merited.
I already mentioned that many people are spamming in the bitcoin discussion section still so it means that the new metir system also failed to fight against spam. Huh
No matter how many pages the work of merit source is find the quality posts.So they have to do if they are the merit sources,because this forum mainly created for discussing about bitcoin so it is important to merit quality post in bitcoin discussion.
1727  Other / Meta / Re: Where are the merit sources? on: February 16, 2018, 04:35:06 PM
Ohhhh no,sad to hear that so we need more merit sources?Or they just only foucusing on the particular section.

no people need to wait a few months for the system to bed in, the shitposters to leave, the clutter to reduce.. then in time merits will be flowing more freely.. why are you so desperate for merits now anyway?
First of all I'm not too desperate for merits bro,I am just asking about why the good quality posts are not rewarded.I agree that it needs time to settle to the new system and I don't think so the shit posters will leave until no more signature campaigns in our forum because still Jr.member can participate in many bounties.
Read his thread and you'll know why he gives out 20 to one person sometimes.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827596
I really like his idea that only merits for quality posts about the bitcoin since many people are sharing merits in the meta section.But I think he is a merit source since he is the most merit sender of our forum until so his job is to find the good quality posts,not to ask post a quality post in his thread.
1728  Other / Meta / Re: Where are the merit sources? on: February 16, 2018, 03:49:39 PM
In my view the purpose of Merit system is not to improve the quality of post. Because there is already rules for sit post, rapid post etc, These can be deleted by the mentor and account may be block as per existing rules of Bitcointalk forum. I received 5sMerit and spent them now if i read a excellent post than what i can do. There may be system of supply sMerit on spent or after some time interval.
The main aim of the merit system is to stop the spam level posts which are only created for the purpose of completing the minimum quota for their signature campaign.So your view about merit system is wrong bro.

Ohhhh no,sad to hear that so we need more merit sources?Or they just only foucusing on the particular section.


Or maybe merit sources should spread the awards a bit more. I don't think that posts should be given more than one or two merits at a time.
Yeah,eaxctly that is my point they need to spread their sMerits to all around the quality posts.And for your information I checked the most merit sender  of our forum,that is QuestionAuthority who totally send 992 sMerits until now so it shows that he is one of the merit sources.But When I checked his  send merit history,he mostly sent 20 sMerits for most of posts so it looks like the merits are only given to limited amount of people.
That's why other quality posts are not merited yet. Huh
1729  Other / Meta / Re: Where are the merit sources? on: February 16, 2018, 03:03:58 PM
I don't visit the services boards, or the marketplaces. I did have a go at selling and discussing crypto domain names, but I got very few views, and no replies. I think your post shows that there has been a major shift in the membership here, and I'm not really interested in the threads about earnings from bounties and ICOs. I do try to help by visiting the beginners and discussion boards, but the pickings are fairly lean there these days.
I am not talking about you bro unless you are an merit source,so there is no merit source for those section. Cry

Ever though that the merit sources are out of merit and waiting for another week or so to be topped off?
Ohhhh no,sad to hear that so we need more merit sources?Or they just only foucusing on the particular section.

This is exactly what i was highlighting in my thread (for reference only: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2961141.0).

As long as merit sources only are a small group of persons, the whole system will stay centralized and will be susceptible to individual "mistakes". How many merits you will get is highly depending on which merit source is going to review your posts and will therefore always be an individual decision.
So we are in need more merit sources,I am wonders can i be one of 'em. Cheesy
But as per theymos if you want to be a merit source be a somewhat established member of the forum.Can someone explain me on that so I am also willing to apply as a merit source.
1730  Other / Meta / Re: Where are the merit sources? on: February 16, 2018, 02:26:24 PM
But if you think you have good high quality posts, ask for a review,
Why I need to ask to someone,then what is the work of the merit sourece?

*I don't like to beg anyone
Don't judge too quickly, you ain't in a court. Let time tell whether or not merit system is a failure.
I am also waiting for that result,but already people sharing merits between the friend zone.
I've been cruising a lot of the boards, and I can't find many "high quality" posts. I give a point to the few that I do find, but it is a real struggle. I'm not a merit source, but I do receive some "merit sauce" ie sMerits, and I feel that I should return them to the community, so come on guys, start talking about Bitcoin. That doesn't just mean price movements, or questions about Bitcoin replacing paypal, banks, you tube or sex.
We have lot of section other than meta section so none of them are producing high quality posts?
For eg.service discussion sections are really helpful but posts in that sections are also not rewarded with merits.
Unfortunately, most categories like the bitcoin discussion forum, economics, gambling and other relevant titles contain threads that are too generic and common, perfect for individuals whose purpose are to complete their required quota under the rules of their signature campaign.
So you means that none of the posts in those highlighted sections doesn't deserves merits. Roll Eyes
1731  Other / Meta / Where are the merit sources? on: February 16, 2018, 01:52:12 PM
I can see that there are 57 merit sources are currently available who can create 11975 sMerits in the time span of 30 days.But where are them I can see lots of HQ posts on the different sections but none of them rewared with merits.Why this happens still merits sources are not enough or they concentrate only on particular sections?

By the way this forum is created for discuss about bitcoin but most of the merits are only given to the META section which is only dicsuss about the forum,so bitcoin discussion doesn't desevrves merits?
Legendary members please concentrate on other sections also other than meta section. Sad

I agree that lots of shit posters are spamming around bitcoin discussion so new merit system failed to improve the quality?

Edit:
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There are 120 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 23045 sMerit per 30 days

But still not all these merits were spend,again the same question Where are the merit sources
1732  Other / Meta / Re: Finally I am a member here after the merit system on: February 16, 2018, 01:04:55 PM
It is a great achievement to become even a member rank after the merit system.But still the task is not fininshed we still have ranks upto legendary so you need to work more harder even to rank upto the higher rank.
But sadly the new merit system slowed the ranking up it is a good way to stop the farmed accounts,but not all the good posts are not rewarded with merits.For me I have two weeks left to become to senior member with activity but now I have to earn 140 more merits to reach that rank.I hope it needs atleast half year to attain this even with HQ posts.
1733  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: do you day trade or prefer a long term hold? on: February 15, 2018, 07:24:44 PM
So I'm slowly going into crypto and I want to know if any of you trade altcoins daily, or you prefer to hold it for long term? What do you think it's better and why?

Thanks
The coins with the much price volatility are better for day trading and the coins witht estable price are good for holding.But I always prefer holding than trading because trading is risky job and much time is needed to make profit from it but in long term hold no effort needed just buy some potential coin and hold them for some years to make profits.But the answer will be change according to their personals and their needs.For me long term holding is better.
1734  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: For newly Jr. Members on: February 15, 2018, 04:57:24 PM
As a New Jr. Member, i want to know more about bounties aside from these list of campaigns:

Facebook
Twitter
Telegram
Signature

I think all of the jr. members like me know these campaigns, So that we want to know techniques or other campaigns to do and earn more.

Any simple comment from the elders will be appreciated, and can help other jr. members like me to grow more.

Thank you.

Mostly low rank membrs do airdrops to earn cryptos but most of the tokes from the airdrops are useless,so we need to pick the best project to make our time worth.
Translation and social media campaigns are the other campaigns we can do,but it needs more experience and mostly the manager of the campaign always prefer the people with the expericence.So chance of participating for the low membered rank other than facebook,twitter and signature are quite harder.
1735  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoins hit 30K before the end of this year? on: February 15, 2018, 02:05:52 PM
Will Bitcoins hit 30K before the end of this year?

Do you also have kind of assumption? I already have...
Hmm anything can be possible bro,so I can't say no for this.But if the bitcoin moves with the same rate like what happened in 2017 it will hit more than $30K by end of this year.
Still some countries are in the regualtion process of crypto currency so bitcoin needs some time to recover from the price crash.So we have to wait until the end of 2018 to know exact answer. Smiley

*Better move this thread to the speculation section.
1736  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: is there any easy way to buy and store bitcoin? on: February 15, 2018, 08:12:39 AM
First of all install a bitcoin wallet with private key access to safely store our bitcoin,and then go to the localbitcoin.com because it is the exchange which is available in all the countreis and you can just buy bitcoins with your local currency itself.But you may need the ID proof because many traders are asking for the identification.Then immediately move your bitcoins to your wallet,never store it in exchage.
1737  Other / Meta / Re: How many Posts are limit for a day? on: February 14, 2018, 04:40:24 PM
Hello Dear,

I am spending my day with my love bitcointalk .  Grin And i am posting what i know and what i want to know. Today i already posted about 6 posts and it showing in my activity already!! So, is there any limitation to posts for a day?

Sorry For my bad english. I am looking forward it.

Thank You Everyone.
Have a good day
There is no post limits for a day you can create many posts as you can but the quality of the post is very important,if you are just creating those posts for the sake of completing your minimum quota of your signature campaign with spam posts then you will be moved to the SMAS list due to the reason of post bursting.
For me I can create upto ten quality posts perday if I am fully available of the forum but normally I will do 5 posts perday.But I don't think you will be banned if you are creating numerous spam posts perday.
1738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: myetherwallet.com shamless on: February 14, 2018, 01:53:54 PM
myetherwallet.com admin and his team is very very shameless and giving hackers to chance to hakeing

theifting accounts these involve in this hacking and thifting
why not improve security like e mail or sms code before loging? they are also theift
I already answered a same question like this,if your wallet provide private key access then there is no email authentication or other security options are needed.And it is impossible to hack your private keys so you are the one who let someone to access your private keys.
The hackers use phishing links to steal your private keys from your system so it is better to bookmark the official MEW website then login from there to reduce the risk and keep your system offline when there is no need for it to save your funds.
1739  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: How was your experience in joining bounty or airdrop? on: February 14, 2018, 09:26:53 AM
I had participated in some of the social media campaign bounties but all of them not made enough attention over the investors and I had eventually left in between the time because I thought it is just the wasting our effort.
So for the people who are going to join in the bounties first do some research about that project and make effort if the project is valuable and many tokens are just valuable so it is important to pick the right bounty if we want to make profits.
1740  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: PLEASE LET ENCOURAGE THE MARKET BY START BUYING AND STOP SELLING: on: February 14, 2018, 07:44:51 AM
Exactly,if we want the price of crypto currency to recover from its fall then we need to start buying and it is better to start to use crypto as a crypto then it will increase the demand for the crypto currency as well as the price of crypto currency.
But for that to happen people have to change their mind from bitcoins as an asset to bitcoins a currency.then only it will be possible.I am alsready strated to buy cryptos when it is cheaper so if you also can just buy it.
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