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February 16, 2018, 01:52:12 PM
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I can see that there are 57 merit sources are currently available who can create 11975 sMerits in the time span of 30 days.But where are them I can see lots of HQ posts on the different sections but none of them rewared with merits.Why this happens still merits sources are not enough or they concentrate only on particular sections?

By the way this forum is created for discuss about bitcoin but most of the merits are only given to the META section which is only dicsuss about the forum,so bitcoin discussion doesn't desevrves merits?
Legendary members please concentrate on other sections also other than meta section. Sad

I agree that lots of shit posters are spamming around bitcoin discussion so new merit system failed to improve the quality?

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There are 120 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 23045 sMerit per 30 days

But still not all these merits were spend,again the same question Where are the merit sources

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February 16, 2018, 02:01:01 PM
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But where are them I can see lots of HQ posts on the different sections but none of them rewared with merits.Why this happens still merits sources are not enough or they concentrate only on particular sections?
Do point them(High quality posts) out.

By the way this forum is created for discuss about bitcoin but most of the merits are only given to the META section which is only dicsuss about thr forum,so bitcoin discussion doesn't desevrves merits?
Legendary members please concentrate on other sections also other than meta section. Sad
Why people only in meta get merits? Because here's where people actually have a discussion, everywhere else it's mostly only shitposting.  But if you think you have good high quality posts, ask for a review,
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I agree that lots of shit posters are spamming around bitcoin discussion so new merit system failed to improve the quality?
Don't judge too quickly, you ain't in a court. Let time tell whether or not merit system is a failure.

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February 16, 2018, 02:08:34 PM
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I've been cruising a lot of the boards, and I can't find many "high quality" posts. I give a point to the few that I do find, but it is a real struggle. I'm not a merit source, but I do receive some "merit sauce" ie sMerits, and I feel that I should return them to the community, so come on guys, start talking about Bitcoin. That doesn't just mean price movements, or questions about Bitcoin replacing paypal, banks, you tube or sex.

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February 16, 2018, 02:11:24 PM
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I can see that there are 57 merit sources are currently available who can create 11975 sMerits in the time span of 30 days.But where are them I can see lots of HQ posts on the different sections but none of them rewared with merits.Why this happens still merits sources are not enough or they concentrate only on particular sections?

By the way this forum is created for discuss about bitcoin but most of the merits are only given to the META section which is only dicsuss about thr forum,so bitcoin discussion doesn't desevrves merits?
Legendary members please concentrate on other sections also other than meta section. Sad

I agree that lots of shit posters are spamming around bitcoin discussion so new merit system failed to improve the quality?

Unfortunately, most categories like the bitcoin discussion forum, economics, gambling and other relevant titles contain threads that are too generic and common, perfect for individuals whose purpose are to complete their required quota under the rules of their signature campaign. Unlike here in the Meta section, most discussions (like this one) revolves around the discussion of actual things that happen here in the forum and not some poorly-made threads.

Generalising that the 'merit system' failed to do its purpose is too fallacious. No system is perfect. If there exists a perfect system in the world, I doubt that corruption and chaos would occur. While the merit system cannot fully answer the problem of shit posting and spammers, it at least mitigated the damage and added a new type of reward wherein people rank-up depending on the usefulness of their replies. Hope that clears any ambiguities you have in mind.

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February 16, 2018, 02:26:24 PM
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But if you think you have good high quality posts, ask for a review,
Why I need to ask to someone,then what is the work of the merit sourece?

*I don't like to beg anyone
Don't judge too quickly, you ain't in a court. Let time tell whether or not merit system is a failure.
I am also waiting for that result,but already people sharing merits between the friend zone.
I've been cruising a lot of the boards, and I can't find many "high quality" posts. I give a point to the few that I do find, but it is a real struggle. I'm not a merit source, but I do receive some "merit sauce" ie sMerits, and I feel that I should return them to the community, so come on guys, start talking about Bitcoin. That doesn't just mean price movements, or questions about Bitcoin replacing paypal, banks, you tube or sex.
We have lot of section other than meta section so none of them are producing high quality posts?
For eg.service discussion sections are really helpful but posts in that sections are also not rewarded with merits.
Unfortunately, most categories like the bitcoin discussion forum, economics, gambling and other relevant titles contain threads that are too generic and common, perfect for individuals whose purpose are to complete their required quota under the rules of their signature campaign.
So you means that none of the posts in those highlighted sections doesn't deserves merits. Roll Eyes

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But if you think you have good high quality posts, ask for a review,
Why I need to ask to someone,then what is the work of the merit sourece?
*I don't like to beg anyone
Don't judge too quickly, you ain't in a court. Let time tell whether or not merit system is a failure.
I am also waiting for that result,but already people sharing merits between the friend zone.
I've been cruising a lot of the boards, and I can't find many "high quality" posts. I give a point to the few that I do find, but it is a real struggle. I'm not a merit source, but I do receive some "merit sauce" ie sMerits, and I feel that I should return them to the community, so come on guys, start talking about Bitcoin. That doesn't just mean price movements, or questions about Bitcoin replacing paypal, banks, you tube or sex.
We have lot of section other than meta section so none of them are producing high quality posts?
For eg.service discussion sections are really helpful but posts in that sections are also not rewarded with merits.
Unfortunately, most categories like the bitcoin discussion forum, economics, gambling and other relevant titles contain threads that are too generic and common, perfect for individuals whose purpose are to complete their required quota under the rules of their signature campaign.
So you means that none of the posts in those highlighted sections doesn't deserves merits. Roll Eyes
No, I am saying that most threads under that category contain subjects that are too common and generic. Relatively, even if people where to comment in that thread and provide useful information contributing the forum then why not give them a merit? But the number of individuals who provide useful information compared to people who just spam under those categories are low, which is quite saddening.

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February 16, 2018, 02:38:04 PM
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We have lot of section other than meta section so none of them are producing high quality posts?
For eg.service discussion sections are really helpful but posts in that sections are also not rewarded with merits.


I don't visit the services boards, or the marketplaces. I did have a go at selling and discussing crypto domain names, but I got very few views, and no replies. I think your post shows that there has been a major shift in the membership here, and I'm not really interested in the threads about earnings from bounties and ICOs. I do try to help by visiting the beginners and discussion boards, but the pickings are fairly lean there these days.

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February 16, 2018, 02:39:13 PM
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I can see that there are 57 merit sources are currently available who can create 11975 sMerits in the time span of 30 days.But where are them I can see lots of HQ posts on the different sections but none of them rewared with merits.Why this happens still merits sources are not enough or they concentrate only on particular sections?

By the way this forum is created for discuss about bitcoin but most of the merits are only given to the META section which is only dicsuss about thr forum,so bitcoin discussion doesn't desevrves merits?
Legendary members please concentrate on other sections also other than meta section. Sad

I agree that lots of shit posters are spamming around bitcoin discussion so new merit system failed to improve the quality?

Ever though that the merit sources are out of merit and waiting for another week or so to be topped off?

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I can see that there are 57 merit sources are currently available who can create 11975 sMerits in the time span of 30 days.But where are them I can see lots of HQ posts on the different sections but none of them rewared with merits.Why this happens still merits sources are not enough or they concentrate only on particular sections?

By the way this forum is created for discuss about bitcoin but most of the merits are only given to the META section which is only dicsuss about thr forum,so bitcoin discussion doesn't desevrves merits?
Legendary members please concentrate on other sections also other than meta section. Sad

I agree that lots of shit posters are spamming around bitcoin discussion so new merit system failed to improve the quality?

This is exactly what i was highlighting in my thread (for reference only: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2961141.0).

As long as merit sources only are a small group of persons, the whole system will stay centralized and will be susceptible to individual "mistakes". How many merits you will get is highly depending on which merit source is going to review your posts and will therefore always be an individual decision.
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You have 48 sendable merit (sMerit) which you can send to other people

That is on my current merit page. So come on guys, stop complaining about merits, and get out there and make some good and articulate posts that will help Bitcoin and the Bitcoin community. This doesn't include all those bounties and alts tht are feeding off the Bitcoin concept. Smiley

Note - I don't give merit to people asking for it, so please don't spam me with begging messages.

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February 16, 2018, 03:03:58 PM
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I don't visit the services boards, or the marketplaces. I did have a go at selling and discussing crypto domain names, but I got very few views, and no replies. I think your post shows that there has been a major shift in the membership here, and I'm not really interested in the threads about earnings from bounties and ICOs. I do try to help by visiting the beginners and discussion boards, but the pickings are fairly lean there these days.
I am not talking about you bro unless you are an merit source,so there is no merit source for those section. Cry

Ever though that the merit sources are out of merit and waiting for another week or so to be topped off?
Ohhhh no,sad to hear that so we need more merit sources?Or they just only foucusing on the particular section.

This is exactly what i was highlighting in my thread (for reference only: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2961141.0).

As long as merit sources only are a small group of persons, the whole system will stay centralized and will be susceptible to individual "mistakes". How many merits you will get is highly depending on which merit source is going to review your posts and will therefore always be an individual decision.
So we are in need more merit sources,I am wonders can i be one of 'em. Cheesy
But as per theymos if you want to be a merit source be a somewhat established member of the forum.Can someone explain me on that so I am also willing to apply as a merit source.

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In my view the purpose of Merit system is not to improve the quality of post. Because there is already rules for sit post, rapid post etc, These can be deleted by the mentor and account may be block as per existing rules of Bitcointalk forum. I received 5sMerit and spent them now if i read a excellent post than what i can do. There may be system of supply sMerit on spent or after some time interval.
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Ohhhh no,sad to hear that so we need more merit sources?Or they just only foucusing on the particular section.


Or maybe merit sources should spread the awards a bit more. I don't think that posts should be given more than one or two merits at a time.

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In my view the purpose of Merit system is not to improve the quality of post. Because there is already rules for sit post, rapid post etc, These can be deleted by the mentor and account may be block as per existing rules of Bitcointalk forum. I received 5sMerit and spent them now if i read a excellent post than what i can do. There may be system of supply sMerit on spent or after some time interval.
The main aim of the merit system is to stop the spam level posts which are only created for the purpose of completing the minimum quota for their signature campaign.So your view about merit system is wrong bro.

Ohhhh no,sad to hear that so we need more merit sources?Or they just only foucusing on the particular section.


Or maybe merit sources should spread the awards a bit more. I don't think that posts should be given more than one or two merits at a time.
Yeah,eaxctly that is my point they need to spread their sMerits to all around the quality posts.And for your information I checked the most merit sender  of our forum,that is QuestionAuthority who totally send 992 sMerits until now so it shows that he is one of the merit sources.But When I checked his  send merit history,he mostly sent 20 sMerits for most of posts so it looks like the merits are only given to limited amount of people.
That's why other quality posts are not merited yet. Huh

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Ohhhh no,sad to hear that so we need more merit sources?Or they just only foucusing on the particular section.


no people need to wait a few months for the system to bed in, the shitposters to leave, the clutter to reduce.. then in time merits will be flowing more freely.. why are you so desperate for merits now anyway?

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February 16, 2018, 04:05:45 PM
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I checked the most merit sender  of our forum,that is QuestionAuthority who totally send 992 sMerits until now so it shows that he is one of the merit sources.But When I checked his  send merit history,he mostly sent 20 sMerits for most of posts so it looks like the merits are only given to limited amount of people.
That's why other quality posts are not merited yet. Huh

Read his thread and you'll know why he gives out 20 to one person sometimes.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827596

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February 16, 2018, 04:35:06 PM
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Ohhhh no,sad to hear that so we need more merit sources?Or they just only foucusing on the particular section.

no people need to wait a few months for the system to bed in, the shitposters to leave, the clutter to reduce.. then in time merits will be flowing more freely.. why are you so desperate for merits now anyway?
First of all I'm not too desperate for merits bro,I am just asking about why the good quality posts are not rewarded.I agree that it needs time to settle to the new system and I don't think so the shit posters will leave until no more signature campaigns in our forum because still Jr.member can participate in many bounties.
Read his thread and you'll know why he gives out 20 to one person sometimes.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827596
I really like his idea that only merits for quality posts about the bitcoin since many people are sharing merits in the meta section.But I think he is a merit source since he is the most merit sender of our forum until so his job is to find the good quality posts,not to ask post a quality post in his thread.

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February 16, 2018, 04:47:02 PM
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I really like his idea that only merits for quality posts about the bitcoin since many people are sharing merits in the meta section.But I think he is a merit source since he is the most merit sender of our forum until so his job is to find the good quality posts,not to ask post a quality post in his thread.

He started the thread first and then was made a merit source because of it. He does also look around for things to merit other than people coming to him.

I think I agree with some of the other comments here, a lot of merit is given in Meta because that's where most of the conversation has been happening since the system was introduced. There quite a lot in the Bitcoin Development & Technical Discussion and Bitcoin Technical Support as well. I think Bitcoin Discussion is still mostly signature spammers that already have high-level accounts but you can find a bit more discussion going on there now. As TMAN just said give it a few months and I think you'll see a bigger improvement.

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February 16, 2018, 04:55:00 PM
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By the way this forum is created for discuss about bitcoin but most of the merits are only given to the META section which is only dicsuss about thr forum,so bitcoin discussion doesn't desevrves merits?
The bitcoin disscussion section is basicly a play ground for shitposters, all the topics are spammed by poeple who are trying to post just for signature campaigns, so there are hardly any good posts that actually add something that has been not mentioned yet, and even if there are some good posts the merit sources, or people with merits to give don't actually have the time or the patience to go through 5 or 6 pages of bad posts to find the one that actually is good quality and deserves to be merited.

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February 16, 2018, 05:11:23 PM
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I really like his idea that only merits for quality posts about the bitcoin since many people are sharing merits in the meta section.But I think he is a merit source since he is the most merit sender of our forum until so his job is to find the good quality posts,not to ask post a quality post in his thread.

He started the thread first and then was made a merit source because of it. He does also look around for things to merit other than people coming to him.

I think I agree with some of the other comments here, a lot of merit is given in Meta because that's where most of the conversation has been happening since the system was introduced. There quite a lot in the Bitcoin Development & Technical Discussion and Bitcoin Technical Support as well. I think Bitcoin Discussion is still mostly signature spammers that already have high-level accounts but you can find a bit more discussion going on there now. As TMAN just said give it a few months and I think you'll see a bigger improvement.

Finally you understand that what I am trying to say,the people need to merit good quality posts in other sections too.Yeah the system needs time to sttle so let's see what will heppen. Smiley
By the way this forum is created for discuss about bitcoin but most of the merits are only given to the META section which is only dicsuss about thr forum,so bitcoin discussion doesn't desevrves merits?
The bitcoin disscussion section is basicly a play ground for shitposters, all the topics are spammed by poeple who are trying to post just for signature campaigns, so there are hardly any good posts that actually add something that has been not mentioned yet, and even if there are some good posts the merit sources, or people with merits to give don't actually have the time or the patience to go through 5 or 6 pages of bad posts to find the one that actually is good quality and deserves to be merited.
I already mentioned that many people are spamming in the bitcoin discussion section still so it means that the new metir system also failed to fight against spam. Huh
No matter how many pages the work of merit source is find the quality posts.So they have to do if they are the merit sources,because this forum mainly created for discussing about bitcoin so it is important to merit quality post in bitcoin discussion.

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