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1721  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 6 bull run strategies on: October 02, 2023, 05:24:34 AM
_ Even though am a big fan of Bitcoin, it wouldn't make you filthy rich, unless you have a large capital, the real money is in the Alt where the high risk are, just pick the right one.
Although, you are right a little bit but you missed the whole picture. Bitcoin is the only currency that surely gives profits without any risks. The altcoins can go zero in value anytime and the ones who invest in altcoins are risking their money in order to earn profits. Remember the case of TerraLuna that caused huge losses to the investors who invested in it with the same mindset as yours. Altcoins are highly risky as investment and if someone really don't want to lose everything then Bitcoin is the only reliable option for such people.


_ Be patient because that is the key.

_ Control your risk; people mostly waste their money gambling on trades that gives only 1:1 reward ratio without remember  every $1 you waste could be $100 during the bull run or a year time.

Well, patience is required in every investment and even in Bitcoin investment the investor must have patience to gain good returns from the investment. I agree that controlling of risk is a good step but sometimes taking risks is also essential in order to reach good levels of financial freedom, but I disagree with you because the ones who are good at trading make far more profits then who ones who hold for bull run.


_ Learn to sell: you need to learn to cut your loss, even though you are -70% , the left over 30% is reinvested than slowly grinding down to -99% because you are too stubborn to admit you are wrong.

_ Take profit: if you don't take profit how can you be profitable? Don't be greedy, just take profit.
 


Well, if you invest in Bitcoin then you won't have to face -70% loss even if you invest in it right now. Sometimes that can happen but still most of the time that thing doesn't happen with Bitcoin investors. When you invest a low quality altcoin then surely you'll have to find a better way to save your investment.

Taking profit isn't always a good thing because sometimes we miss huge profits by taking small profits every once in a while. It depends on our emotional intelligence sometimes because if we can't control our emotions then we may not be able to earn huge profits and sell off early in order to have small profits.
1722  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 01, 2023, 09:23:06 PM
The bear on the bench,
Made me keep my Bitcoin Cash,
Until I saw sense.

You mean picnic table bear?  

Gosh he can be persuasive.

[edited out]
If I'm not wrong then we are still at least 10-14 months away from the next bull run. Although, the halving event will take within next 7-8 months but still the bull run may need some more time to start. I'm in firm belief that history will repeat itself once again this time.

Of course, no bull run is guaranteed, but when they do end up happening, there does seem to tend to be a kind of rampening up of the process in such a way that it starts out slowly and then gets to be more and more and more, but sometimes even those kinds of rampening ups can become unclear.. take the April to June 2019 run for example... so the UPs and downs can sometimes play out weirdly... or in such a way that the pattern, if any, is not completely clear.

If we end up with a bullrun this time, then surely it will end up becoming easier to explain it after it happens, and I am not even saying that the explanations that will end up coming out will be consistent, and surely some explanations are more believable than others... .

Sometimes it might not be that important to explain why bitcoin did what it did, even though some people seem to have better ideas regarding what it did than others, so that likely gives better ideas for where we might be going too.. .even though many of us recognize and appreciate that ONLY so much weight can be given to historical price movements in regards to being able to get some ideas for what might be in store in the future.. .and surely dangerous to be putting too many eggs (or hopes) into one basket (one view of what might end up happening, when it hasn't happened, yet).  

I highly agree with you that the bull run isn't a guaranteed event but it's our expectations that it will happen. Yeah, in the initial stage the bull run starts with slow pumps but over time it gets more intense. I also agree that sometimes we really can't detect the initial stages of a bull run because the ups and downs are so unpredictable in the initial stages. I believe this time something will also trigger the bull run to intense levels. The previous bull run began its intense levels in November-December 2019 and initially it started around April to June 2019 like you said.

Yes, if we see the next bull run then it will be easier for us to say something about it. But, surely someone of the expectations will be met once the bull run starts. I believe that this bull run will help Bitcoin and the whole crypto-market if it happens.

Those who have good ideas about Bitcoin and its price levels are among the learned ones I guess because they really know the importance of Bitcoin and appreciate every move of Bitcoin with positive mindset. The Bitcoin has made history for first time when its price went to $1k plus in 2013 ATH, and it made history again when its price went to $19k plus during 2017 ATH, and it made history once again when its price went to $68k plus during 2022 ATH, and now it will make another history when its price moves to ATH in next 2 years with intense bull run. I expect that in October-December 2025 Bitcoin's ATH will take place. I may be wrong but my expectations are really positive about it.

1723  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Few reasons why people are hesitant to buy or HODL bitcoin/Crypto on: October 01, 2023, 07:19:18 PM
First Bitcoin shouldn't be taken as a guaranteed short term profits investment, since Bitcoin is a highly volatile asset and pricing not guarantee to continue in a particular direction, so Bitcoin should be best taken as a long term investment that is why most Bitcoin holder take Bitcoin hodling as a long term journey and to achieve a successful hodling you need to allocate a 5 year holding plans before you set out for it.

I believe this time it won't take 5 years to earn some good profits from Bitcoin holding. Since we all know that the next halving event will take place in 6-7 months from now and after that event the pre-bull run may start and within 1-2 years from the date of halving we can expect another all time high. So by keeping that thing in our mind we can safely say that 2 years is going to be enough time on holding for most people who want to earn some good profits from Bitcoin investment.

However, I still agree with you with that long term investment point. Those who can hold their Bitcoin investment for 1 decade or two can earn substantial profits from their investment.
1724  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help a newbie! on: October 01, 2023, 03:26:53 PM



I recommend you to forget about other crypto-currencies and learn about Bitcoin instead because Bitcoin is the only crypto-currency that won't disappoint you. You can learn everything about Bitcoin by visiting Bitcoin discussion and other boards related to Bitcoin on this forum.



In fact, Bitcoin is considered the most reliable and secure in the entire crypto currency market. Newbies should always learn about Bitcoin first, because Bitcoin is dominating the entire crypto currency market. Their fluctuations lead to the volatility of all crypto currencies. So people who understand Bitcoin well can easily earn profit in other coins as well. Investing in Bitcoin is good but we cannot ignore other good and strong project based coins in the market.

It cannot be denied that people have made huge profits in altcoins as well. You can take the example of the last bull season, where coins like Solana, Matic Dot, BNB, Gala, Sand, Mana have given people huge profits. Investing in Ethereum, which is the second top currency after Bitcoin, has also seen people earn fantastic returns. So I think it would be unfair to forget other crypto currencies. Therefore, newbies must take interest in other coins in the market.

Yes, Bitcoin is, it was, and it will remain the most reliable and trusted crypto=currency in the whole crypto-market. In fact I believe that the whole market exists because of Bitcoin only. I always recommend newbies to learn about Bitcoin because it's the only crypto-currency that won't disappoint them.

Although, I won't deny the fact that many of the altcoins gave huge profits to the investors in previous bull run, but so many investors have lost a lot of money due to some altcoins like Terra Luna, TerraUSD, and FTT token. The investors who invest in altcoins are always at risk of loosing everything, and if someone really don't want to lose money then the only safest and most trust-worthy option is Bitcoin.

1725  Economy / Services / Re: 500 CASINO | Halloween Artwork Event | $1,000 Prize Pool | 1 Oct - 31 Oct 2023 on: October 01, 2023, 03:19:50 PM
Oh, I meant that anyone is allow to submit either digital or physical artworks, or a combination of both. So those from pen and pencils are welcomed as well!

Great to hear that and now I'll also participate in this amazing contest. Thanks for confirmation and I recommend you to update the OP so that all type of physical artists will also participate in the contest.
1726  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 01, 2023, 03:17:03 PM
The more you guys talk about the details including how many percent might be a sufficient threshold, the more it seems to be not broken the way that it is, and also Jimbo made a good point about buddy still providing interesting data because it is showing the the walls.

So why be fucking around with a good thing merely because some members seem to not know how to use a scroll wheel.


Fair enough I agree with you. Although it's not a problem for many users of the thread and surely a few people find it interesting to have awareness about the price of the Bitcoin by looking at the charts that our beloved Buddy generates. Let's stick with the old school method of scrolling wheel to avoid multiple charts of Buddy!



If I'm not wrong then we are still at least 10-14 months away from the next bull run. Although, the halving event will take within next 7-8 months but still the bull run may need some more time to start. I'm in firm belief that history will repeat itself once again this time.
1727  Economy / Services / Re: 500 CASINO | Halloween Artwork Event | $1,000 Prize Pool | 1 Oct - 31 Oct 2023 on: October 01, 2023, 03:06:04 PM
Great to see such an amazing contest. If I'm not wrong then in this contest we will have two options only one is for those member who are good at crafting while other one is for the users who are good at digital art. I would like to know that the ones who create art with pencil and pen are also allowed to participate in this contest or it's just limited to craft and digital art?
1728  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2023, 07:42:35 PM
Too much, buddy  Angry


EDIT: I'd recommend to change Buddy's policy to post a price update only if it moved by a certain amount of dollars.

The buddy posts a chart on hourly basis and if none of us make a post then we'll see buddy only. I also believe that limiting buddy is somewhat good for the WO thread. I believe buddy should post charts when price pumps a lot or dips a lot and other than that it would make 1 post in 4 hours if the price doesn't change a lot.

I was thinking more in the 10-25 Dollar range.

EDIT: 1% would be too much imo. 0,1% fits the purpose of getting rid of those flatline-charts in series, which my suggestion mainly was about.

Personally, i don't care about the price reminder if it is less than 1% change, but $100 as a "limit" is fine too (at these prices).
imho, $15-25 is too "granular" for being of much use.

I think even $100 isn't a good range as that can happen many times and the Buddy will somehow spam if that price range takes place many times during the pumps or dumps. I believe that $200 to $250 would be a better range for Buddy to show us the charts so we can get a better picture of what's happening in the market, and Philpma1957 will also be in peace because he'll remain as the top poster if the main competitor buddy gets limited.




Too much, buddy  Angry
EDIT: I'd recommend to change Buddy's policy to post a price update only if it moved by a certain amount of dollars.
The buddy posts a chart on hourly basis and if none of us make a post then we'll see buddy only. I also believe that limiting buddy is somewhat good for the WO thread. I believe buddy should post charts when price pumps a lot or dips a lot and other than that it would make 1 post in 4 hours if the price doesn't change a lot.

If it's not broke, don't fix it.


Let's break it ourselves and then fix it. I think it needs the fix and it might be broke but we aren't aware of it. Let's do it for the betterment of the thread and for the happiness of the users who want that.
1729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is horse racing so unpopular here and a bit of extra feedback on: September 30, 2023, 07:37:27 PM

- Do you honestly think running a prediction game (run with my own funds) would attract genuine interest in this and not just shitposting quota?
Running such a prediction game would attract users to take part in that game only and they won't really go deeper into horse racing thing at all. Most of them would take part in order to with the prize of the prediction contest but they won't get any interest into horse racing or betting on horse racing games.

- Would let's say 1-2 mbtc (per event, about one or two per month) be enough for people here to at least open a few links and take a look at what hoses are running and what their timeform is?
Yes, that would be more than enough for the users of the forum to open a few links in order to increase their chances of winning the prize. There can be some chances that a few players might get some interest in horse racing if you run such games for more than 6 months.

- Is anyone here actually gambling on horse racing?
Well, I'm not someone who gambles on horse racing games but I tried horse racing games a few times in past with lost bets only. I don't really remember those but I placed bets based on odds rather than doing my own research. If you have understanding of horse racing games then you may share your bets so that other may also get interest into such games.

1730  Other / Meta / Re: How to check post bursting through ninjastic space on: September 30, 2023, 04:28:02 PM

I can do three to five good posts in an hour twice a day but and this is a big but you need to find posts to reply to with a good viable reply. Sometimes you can’t find a topic on the front page of a section say meta economics and bitcoin technical help.

You're right three to five good posts aren't difficult especially for someone like you who makes a lot of posts on daily basis. It sometimes depends on the replies that we make because in some topics we get involved so deeply that making out 3-5 posts in a single thread isn't hard for us while other times we may make a single reply in a thread and no more than that.

I mostly post in Meta, Bitcoin discussion, and Gambling boards but sometimes I try to post in other boards as well. I believe that it depends on our moods and our understanding about a topic. If we are well aware of a topic then the replies come naturally and we don't really need to put much effort while sometimes we'll have to give time to research in order to make a proper reply.

I believe that even top posters won't be able to make 10 constructive posts in an hour because we as humans need to have some rest after making some posts. I usually make 1-2 posts or sometimes more at a time and then I take rest and do other activities of my life before making any further posts.
1731  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help a newbie! on: September 30, 2023, 03:29:48 PM
I'm new to the forum and so far I'm beginning to understand the structure of the forum but my challenge is that I don't really have enough knowledge on crypto prior to now.

I have done a bit of research on YouTube but the information their is a bit confusing as it's more theoretical and I doubt the once I have seen is updated lately.

I really want to learn the basics in cryptocurrency and would need guidance from expert from this forum.

What I need particular is a verified YouTube channel I can get an updated crash course crypto, books, website and any material or post on this forum that can give me proper guidance as a newbie.

If you really want to learn about Bitcoin then this is the best place for you to learn about it but if you want to learn about all crypto-currencies then you'll have to do your own research by reading books or doing online searches on Google about the crypto-currency that you're interested in and you want to learn about it.

There are many YouTubers that share their insights about different crypto-currencies but you'll have to find those yourself because someone else's advice can be wrong and you may lose a lot of money by investing in a useless coin that will go zero in value.

I recommend you to forget about other crypto-currencies and learn about Bitcoin instead because Bitcoin is the only crypto-currency that won't disappoint you. You can learn everything about Bitcoin by visiting Bitcoin discussion and other boards related to Bitcoin on this forum.

If you want to learn about Bitcoin in detail then you can create your own thread and ask about that thing from the users of the forum. If you're someone who wants to learn via books then simply go with a Google search "Best books to learn about Bitcoin," and you'll have all those books that can help you to learn about Bitcoin.
1732  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Invest in bitcoin and forget the investment on: September 30, 2023, 03:16:46 PM
Bitcoin investment, this is the opportunity for someone who wants to invest in bitcoin to invest in bitcoin without looking back, because anyone that invest in bitcoin now will make a profit during bullrun, the price of bitcoin is fluctuating and it does want to up since the price has being to twenty six thousand [26] is over one month or less than one month the price is being unrotational for price, I think that any one that plan to become a billionaire in bitcoin this is the opportunity to invest in bitcoin against next bullrun.
Well, there is always opportunity to invest in Bitcoin and yes I agree that this is the right time for such investment, but I have to say that it's really hard to become a billionaire in Bitcoin these days because Bitcoin is already at high price mark for many people and having a single Bitcoin is dream of many people. I know that Bitcoin will get higher in price during the next bull run but still it's not going to make everyone a billionaire or even a millionaire in this bull run.



I'm expecting the price of bitcoin to rise in 2025 and 2026 so any investment in bitcoin  should be expected till next two years or three years time. Summary, invest in bitcoin and forget about the investment and hope that you will make profit after some years coming.

The price of Bitcoin will reach another ATH in 2024-2025 and that ATH will be above $90k for sure. But, the ones who invest in Bitcoin today may already be at profit during the first or second quarter of 2024. If someone really wants to make a lot of profit then that user should hold his/her Bitcoin investment for at least two years.
1733  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Violence and anger could be a sign of gambling addiction in youths on: September 30, 2023, 12:20:02 PM
Sometimes such things happen because our greed shuts our senses and we really don't understand what we are doing. Such youths who fall into gambling addiction are the ones who want to earn a lot of money in short duration of time but they really don't understand much about economics and find gambling as a way to quickly get rich.

Actually they don't understand gambling as well and think that gambling will allow them to multiply their money many times, but when they lose bets they get frustrated because of the losses and due to frustration their personality starts changing over time.

Those people start to mistreat their loved ones because they got addicted for gambling and find gambling more interesting than their family and loved ones. Some people lose the bets and believe that they lose the bets due to the luck of the others who are close to them and that's another reason for such behavior.

The best solution is to teach youth about the principles of economics and how money works. One should also teach them that earning money quickly is a type of scam that fake influencer install in our minds. Everyone has different struggles to reach financial freedom in their lives and if someone is born into a financially weak family then that person has to struggle a lot.

The struggle can be in the form of learning of skills and making money by utilizing those skills or the struggle can be in the form of education and other qualifications that would allow them to get a proper job. Gambling is good for entertainment purpose but it is not something that could end up the bondage of poverty and if someone thinks that they could get rich quick by following the path of gambling then such person as to lose a lot things in his/her life.
1734  Other / Meta / Re: Do you use 'All' option given next to topic links to read all comments in... on: September 30, 2023, 12:02:58 PM
one page? [1]

I wonder if anyone uses it. Also, what's highest page count before this option goes away?


No, I don't personally use that feature but it's a helpful one especially for those people who read most posts in a thread. Once or twice I unintentionally clicked on that button and unfortunately I have to face Cloudflare verification in order to proceed further. For someone like me that feature isn't useful at all because I always read posts from most of the pages as that is easy for me.
1735  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2023, 11:52:05 AM
Too much, buddy  Angry


EDIT: I'd recommend to change Buddy's policy to post a price update only if it moved by a certain amount of dollars.

The buddy posts a chart on hourly basis and if none of us make a post then we'll see buddy only. I also believe that limiting buddy is somewhat good for the WO thread. I believe buddy should post charts when price pumps a lot or dips a lot and other than that it would make 1 post in 4 hours if the price doesn't change a lot.
1736  Other / Meta / Re: How to check post bursting through ninjastic space on: September 30, 2023, 02:11:10 AM
I think it is not possible for someone to make 30 or 50 posts in an hour. A better example of post bursting should be around 10-15 posts per hour which is also going to be a hard thing for many users. I believe that Icopress warns those users who just want to complete their 25 posts limit as soon as possible and some users may post more than 10 to 15 posts per hour in order to complete their weekly minimum posts for a campaign.
It is possible for a person to make 100 posts per hour (if there are no limits, never tried, so don't know if there is any limit in per hour) by making a single line or one word or spamming posts, but you said it is hard to make 10 posts in 1 hour, and you are 100% right, because I made around 10 posts daily, from some time, and I know how hard it is to make 10 posts in only one hour, but if you are active in the local board then you might make it happen but there you can not post consecutively, thus it becomes hard. But if one makes up his mind to make 10 posts in 1 hour then he can easily make it.

And you are right about completing the limit, if one is found doing that, then he or she will be given a comment on the spreadsheet and that will be a warning as well. If that person does not stop doing that then will be removed quickly for not following the rules.

First of all the participants who gets accepted in a campaign never make one line, one word, or spamming posts, because if they do something like that then they won't be accepted in signature campaigns anymore. If I'm not wrong then most of the signature campaigns require constructive posts and a single line or single word post isn't constructive at all.

I'm actually a high poster type of a person and I can say that it's really hard or impossible to make 10 constructive posts within an hour. I make around 5-15 posts a day, sometimes more sometimes less, and I can surely say that making that many posts require a lot of time on forum.

I love to give proper time to forum and also proper time to make those posts. Even in local boards it would be difficult to make 10 constructive posts within an hour. If the posts have anything valuable then such type of posts require some time to make. Even if someone makes his/her mind to make 10 posts per hour then still I believe that will be  really hard or somewhat impossible thing to achieve.
1737  Economy / Speculation / Re: Does bitcoin price increase after halving? on: September 29, 2023, 11:36:56 PM
Halving events have frequently been associated with increase in price of bitcoin with significant upward momentum both before and after halving. Bitcoin halving often generate increased market attention and hype. Expectation of lower supply and likely price increase may fuel positive feelings amongst investors and traders.

Yes, halving event is the best indicator that will help to increase the value of Bitcoin but that increase won't come just after the halving event.

The Bitcoin's price will see increase after the halving event and after 12-17 months we can see the ATH once again.

If wee see the history of Bitcoin's ATH then we can easily see that after the halving event it took Bitcoin at least a year or more to see another ATH once again and I believe that history will repeat itself once again this time.
1738  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin always fight back on: September 29, 2023, 11:26:29 PM
when the Ukraine Russian war drove down the price of Bitcoin to 15k most people lost hope.

It wasn't just Ukraine-Russian war that led to drop in the price of Bitcoin in 2022 to levels below $16k but there were other factors involved as well. One of the worst event that led to sudden drop of Bitcoin in 2022 was depegging of TerraUSD and and sudden price drop of Terra Luna due to over supply. That useless coin created fear in the minds of the investors and the rest was done by the so-called influencers who were just there to make money out of the ad revenue from YouTube and promoted fake news about crypto world.

Another worse event that caused Bitcoin price to get dump was the failure of Celsius network due to bankruptcy. That company lent a lot of money to investors and suddenly when it went bankrupt the crypto-market has seen another huge dump.

The final value drop of Bitcoin was done because of that so-called centralized exchange FTX which caused the Bitcoin value to go below $16k levels. People were very happy with the FTX exchange and they have deposited a lot of their Bitcoin and other crypto-currencies into the wallets of that exchange. When that exchange went bankrupt all of the users lost their money and that caused the worst fear in the crypto market.

The Bitcoin enthusiasts found opportunity to accumulate more and more Bitcoin during those events and most of them are still holding their Bitcoin in hope that in 2024-2025 Bitcoin will have another ATH and then some of those enthusiasts may sell few of their Bitcoin and wait for another bull run in order to accumulate more Bitcoin.
1739  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is sex education bad on a child? on: September 29, 2023, 09:27:18 PM
I understand that children or teenagers are not allowed to know so many things especially sex activities but this days if you don't teach them someone else will.
Well, to some extent I agree with you that giving sex education to teenagers is somewhat essential these days as we are living in a technological world and every teenager has their own personal smartphone these days. Some people don't understand that smartphones can cause much damage to some teens understanding about sex and they can fall into wrong activities like masturbation and online sex chats.

Those can be avoided if someone teaches their teenagers about sex education. The teens are pretty naive when taking such decisions and if they aren't taught about such things by parents or guardians then they could face many troubles.

So we are in a modern world where things are fast changing. What do you think? Is good to teach your children sex education or thy should be allow to grow on their terms? Is sex education good for a child?

If you're teaching your children about sex education in a sense that would help them to understand what's good for them what isn't good for them then yes sex education is very important. The children should be taught about good touch and bad touch so they can protect themselves from predators. It's always better to teach your children about such things so that others won't be able to take advantage of their innocence.
1740  Other / Meta / Re: How to check post bursting through ninjastic space on: September 29, 2023, 09:14:22 PM
but it's always possible to create a natural posting rate of 50 - 100 posts per week if they spend more time on forum than in the real world.

Yeah, I agree with you that it's very possible to create 50-100 posts per week and many people make above 50 posts per week. Actually, I'm among those members who spend a lot of time on this forum and I make 40-80 posts per week myself.

Sometimes we get involved in some threads so deeply that it will be a natural flow to make that number of posts per week. I have seen members who make more than 70 posts per week and all of those are reputable members of the forum and their posts are highly constructive.
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