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[OutOfMemory]

Thanks for this. So, it does look like he's no longer officially linked to nChain. Good riddance!

He's never fired
He only resigns himself
Craig is never sacked

Can you sack a sack?
Or make the sack break his neck?
Either way, it's fine.

[danadc]

These are the things I like, when we see that September is already over and we want to start a good October:



And the volumes that are registered are very good, can you imagine that this Sunday we can register a value of BITCOIN IN $30 thousand Dollars?



Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-price-best-september-since-2016

I like that the outlook can feel like that, because that emphasizes that the price of bitcoin will rise or it will very likely be achieved.

On the other hand I see that swiempree Bloomberg gets his dose of Fud:

As September comes to a close, Bitcoin is poised to end the quarter on a down note in its first quarterly decline this yea

Source:https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-ending-september-first-quarterly-144059568.html

With all this I am left with the positive, I see a good rise in BTC as more feasible.

[OgNasty]

The great battle for $27K is upon us. I think while looking at charts of the previous 4-years is reason to be excited now, one can’t ignore that there is typically one more big drop before the rocket launches. Do folks think that is in store for us again here? Could the new Antminer be the catalyst as Bitmain starts stacking BTC from orders?

[JayJuanGee]

Lmfao these retarded Bljatcoiners in our Country paid several K € just to make an AD about bljatcoin and craptocoins. Saying just buy 1k just 1k almost saying PLEASE 😂😂It is the sign that all of it is failing. Thank god very few are so retarded to buy.

We actualy know what true and safe investment is as we our people learned about this shit years before Bljatcoins went live as similar trash caused big financial problems in the country.

Well, at least out of all of us in these here parts, you are going to be the "safe" one.

At the same time, I am sorry to hear that you are suffering so much through your witnessing of ongoing WO member carnage.

 

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[Biodom]

Too much, buddy  


EDIT: I'd recommend to change Buddy's policy to post a price update only if it moved by a certain amount of dollars.

The buddy posts a chart on hourly basis and if none of us make a post then we'll see buddy only. I also believe that limiting buddy is somewhat good for the WO thread. I believe buddy should post charts when price pumps a lot or dips a lot and other than that it would make 1 post in 4 hours if the price doesn't change a lot.

I was thinking more in the 10-25 Dollar range.

EDIT: 1% would be too much imo. 0,1% fits the purpose of getting rid of those flatline-charts in series, which my suggestion mainly was about.

Personally, i don't care about the price reminder if it is less than 1% change, but $100 as a "limit" is fine too (at these prices).
imho, $15-25 is too "granular" for being of much use.

[SamReomo]

Too much, buddy  


EDIT: I'd recommend to change Buddy's policy to post a price update only if it moved by a certain amount of dollars.

The buddy posts a chart on hourly basis and if none of us make a post then we'll see buddy only. I also believe that limiting buddy is somewhat good for the WO thread. I believe buddy should post charts when price pumps a lot or dips a lot and other than that it would make 1 post in 4 hours if the price doesn't change a lot.

I was thinking more in the 10-25 Dollar range.

EDIT: 1% would be too much imo. 0,1% fits the purpose of getting rid of those flatline-charts in series, which my suggestion mainly was about.

Personally, i don't care about the price reminder if it is less than 1% change, but $100 as a "limit" is fine too (at these prices).
imho, $15-25 is too "granular" for being of much use.

I think even $100 isn't a good range as that can happen many times and the Buddy will somehow spam if that price range takes place many times during the pumps or dumps. I believe that $200 to $250 would be a better range for Buddy to show us the charts so we can get a better picture of what's happening in the market, and Philpma1957 will also be in peace because he'll remain as the top poster if the main competitor buddy gets limited.

Too much, buddy  
EDIT: I'd recommend to change Buddy's policy to post a price update only if it moved by a certain amount of dollars.

The buddy posts a chart on hourly basis and if none of us make a post then we'll see buddy only. I also believe that limiting buddy is somewhat good for the WO thread. I believe buddy should post charts when price pumps a lot or dips a lot and other than that it would make 1 post in 4 hours if the price doesn't change a lot.

If it's not broke, don't fix it.

Let's break it ourselves and then fix it. I think it needs the fix and it might be broke but we aren't aware of it. Let's do it for the betterment of the thread and for the happiness of the users who want that.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[Torque]

Breaking...

nChain CEO quits and calls Craig out for being a liar and a fraud and most definitely not Satoshi
https://twitter.com/CryptoDevil/status/1707906429661651437

Calvin Ayre emails Craig and tells him he is out and is pulling the plug on funding the hopeless legal cases Craig has been dragging innocent people into:
https://twitter.com/CryptoDevil/status/1708085903451652335

Full text part 1
wonder who sent this email
and who it was sent to. It was forwarded to me by someone Headline was as follows;
“My last direct communication on this issue. Please read carefully.” Dated 23 September. Judge by yourself please:
As I sit here I am on a beach in Southern Spain.  I have a good life.  I have every intention of keeping it this way.   Right now the only negative in my life is your litigation disaster (and getting old but that one I cannot fix).  I will accept your explanation that you did not actually threaten me so the following is the situation we find ourselves in.
 
I have been operating under the assumption that you and Ramona have the keys and that you were simply pretending not to have them as part of some strategy that you have trapped yourself in.  But now that we are looking at a situation where continuing to deny you have them ruins your life and damages your supporters, I am forced to make a tough decision.  It no longer matters if you have the keys or not as it is my opinion based on advice from Zafar and others that you cannot win the COPA trial if you do not sign at Harvard so I have no choice in what I have to do.
 
This of course will also mean that you lose all the other cases (other than maybe the token theft case…but to me losing COPA even puts this at risk) as COPA will set precedent that you are not Satoshi in law.   All IP other than nChain patents will disappear.  This means that you  are not going to be able to get a court to declare that you own any tokens either.  We have also verified that there is no complete paper trail evidencing the trust owning any tokens.  This after nearly a year of Zurich reviewing all the evidence you have. This means you cannot repay me the money you owe me for all the litigation to date.  This means every cent spent on your cases is me pissing away my kids inheritance.   If you have the keys, your best play is to now use them.  Going to jail for perjury but having the entire world accept you are a flawed Satoshi is infinitely better than losing this case and only being considered likely to be a flawed Satoshi after your death by historians as no other realistic person is ever found.  However, its my opinion that once the world accepts you are a flawed Satoshi, everything changes and all of this just goes away.  I can make it all go away in fact.  There is zero reason to continue to pretend you do not have the keys if you really have them.  Side bonus is that using the keys in this way, combined with verdict in Florida will likely be a accepted replacement for proper paper work for financial institutions.
 
So either you are a moron for intentionally losing this case, or you are a moron for actually not having the keys…either way, I am not following you over the cliff…and I actually have concerns with Stefan even being a witness as I know what they will do to him for this.  My opinion in having watched this play out over the years is that its clear you are hopelessly bad at litigation.  The ONLY reason you won in Florida is the other side got greedy and tried to both steal your shit and ruin your reputation and this was conflicting agendas and so confused the jury.  The other side will not be making this mistake in London.
 
To me I am doing you and your supporters a favor…. I will cover this in CG as us still being sure you are Satoshi even as its clear that you were run over by the combined forces of Silicon Valley, US payments companies and the entire Crypto world. We will say that we believe you did forge some documents to replace ones you destroyed earlier to try to pretend you were not Satoshi.  We will say this is because your Asperger’s makes you not think and act like an adult.    You are like a super smart Teenager.   This is not how this would play out in the media if we spend toe to toe with COPA and they still win which is what is most likely…in addition to the massive waste of my kids wealth…
(To be continued below)

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Full text part 2
Its clear that once you lose you will need me more than ever.  I will be the only one standing between your family and the soup kitchen.  At least at the moment,  depending on how self-destructive you get, I am not stopping my funding of the Association, the ecosystem or nChain and you, in fact this decision makes funding them a lot easier for me. From my perspective this decision improves everything now.  Your continuing to accept this funding is your acceptance that our existing deal is still valid and that you agree with me that my stopping funding a lost cause is not a violation on my side.  You are further agreeing that you personally will pay me back for all the money I have spent on your project even if the trust never gets any tokens.
 
I do not believe this case is fundable in any other way, I do not believe you will even be able to get a competent law firm to work with you on this as I expect all the lawyers to bail once they know I am out.  The analysis above will be done by everyone and they are coming to the same conclusion.  However, I will support any new funding options you can find if this is your wish just send the plan to Alain and I.    I do not expect this to happen however as you have made yourself just to toxic for this and your enemies have piled on in branding you as such…they are ever so gleeful with every round you pinch off into your own feet.  As I said above…I believe what I am doing is actually tough love, its definitely not meant to hurt you and it will actually help you looking at this from where I am sitting.  The lawyers all dropping you because you ran out of funding is the best case scenario that I can see if you cannot do a Harvard signing.
 
By the way…you lost both contempt of court cases.  Christen was the one that saved you and you are acting like you are too selfish and ignorant to even understand this.  I don’t believe you have even thanked anyone.  Both of these contempt’s would have been used against you in all other cases.
 
C……

So the only question remains...

Will Craig flee the UK before he's nabbed by law enforcement for extradition back to Australia to face justice for the millions he stole from the taxpayer in his fake-bitcoins-to-real-dollars cash rebate scam?

[OutOfMemory]

We will say this is because your Asperger’s makes you not think and act like an adult.    You are like a super smart Teenager.  

Aspergers are typically drawn to honesty. Who would even buy that shit?

I was thinking more in the 10-25 Dollar range.

EDIT: 1% would be too much imo. 0,1% fits the purpose of getting rid of those flatline-charts in series, which my suggestion mainly was about.

Personally, i don't care about the price reminder if it is less than 1% change, but $100 as a "limit" is fine too (at these prices).
imho, $15-25 is too "granular" for being of much use.

I don't know, really. Both of our opinions are right.
After all, CB was meant as a service to us, so why do we get so annoyed by it? I mean, if we had more postings going per hour, how much would CB's posts weigh in contrast? It's too dynamic to form an easy decision, somehow (at least for me).

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[JayJuanGee]

Too much, buddy  

EDIT: I'd recommend to change Buddy's policy to post a price update only if it moved by a certain amount of dollars.

The buddy posts a chart on hourly basis and if none of us make a post then we'll see buddy only. I also believe that limiting buddy is somewhat good for the WO thread. I believe buddy should post charts when price pumps a lot or dips a lot and other than that it would make 1 post in 4 hours if the price doesn't change a lot.

I was thinking more in the 10-25 Dollar range.

EDIT: 1% would be too much imo. 0,1% fits the purpose of getting rid of those flatline-charts in series, which my suggestion mainly was about.

Personally, i don't care about the price reminder if it is less than 1% change, but $100 as a "limit" is fine too (at these prices).
imho, $15-25 is too "granular" for being of much use.

I think even $100 isn't a good range as that can happen many times and the Buddy will somehow spam if that price range takes place many times during the pumps or dumps. I believe that $200 to $250 would be a better range for Buddy to show us the charts so we can get a better picture of what's happening in the market, and Philpma1957 will also be in peace because he'll remain as the top poster if the main competitor buddy gets limited.

Too much, buddy  
EDIT: I'd recommend to change Buddy's policy to post a price update only if it moved by a certain amount of dollars.

The buddy posts a chart on hourly basis and if none of us make a post then we'll see buddy only. I also believe that limiting buddy is somewhat good for the WO thread. I believe buddy should post charts when price pumps a lot or dips a lot and other than that it would make 1 post in 4 hours if the price doesn't change a lot.

If it's not broke, don't fix it.

Let's break it ourselves and then fix it. I think it needs the fix and it might be broke but we aren't aware of it. Let's do it for the betterment of the thread and for the happiness of the users who want that.

The more you guys talk about the details including how many percent might be a sufficient threshold, the more it seems to be not broken the way that it is, and also Jimbo made a good point about buddy still providing interesting data because it is showing the the walls.

So why be fucking around with a good thing merely because some members seem to not know how to use a scroll wheel.

[edited out]

Seems to show a lot of gullible (or wanna believe) or like you suggest, pure scammer accomplices.

I was thinking more in the 10-25 Dollar range.

EDIT: 1% would be too much imo. 0,1% fits the purpose of getting rid of those flatline-charts in series, which my suggestion mainly was about.

Personally, i don't care about the price reminder if it is less than 1% change, but $100 as a "limit" is fine too (at these prices).
imho, $15-25 is too "granular" for being of much use.

I don't know, really. Both of our opinions are right.
After all, CB was meant as a service to us, so why do we get so annoyed by it? I mean, if we had more postings going per hour, how much would CB's posts weigh in contrast? It's too dynamic to form an easy decision, somehow (at least for me).

That seems to be part of the reason that no change to "our" buddy is needed.  

Thank god (or richie_t, whichever comes first) for our ability to have a buddy that shows us walls and prices upon the hour every hour and without fail (except when it does fail), and it's starting to seem like a moment to stop whining about our ability and privilege to have a nice thing. that is also called our buddy thingie-ma-jiggie.

[Biodom]

I have no major qualms with CB, typically, with two caveats:

1. Long stretches of CB are giving an impression that this board is "dead".
2. Interruptions in ongoing conversations, which is a very small factor, but it reminds me of a Howard Stern movie when he was told to announce weather quite often, so he made a hilarious way to do it, willfully interrupting the narration flow to insert weather in a hilarious way.

In short, i would prefer less vociferous CB, that's all.
On a regular stable day once in 4 hr is OK, maybe even more than once an hour when we are mooning and/or plunging.

[OutOfMemory]

I was thinking more in the 10-25 Dollar range.

EDIT: 1% would be too much imo. 0,1% fits the purpose of getting rid of those flatline-charts in series, which my suggestion mainly was about.

Personally, i don't care about the price reminder if it is less than 1% change, but $100 as a "limit" is fine too (at these prices).
imho, $15-25 is too "granular" for being of much use.

I don't know, really. Both of our opinions are right.
After all, CB was meant as a service to us, so why do we get so annoyed by it? I mean, if we had more postings going per hour, how much would CB's posts weigh in contrast? It's too dynamic to form an easy decision, somehow (at least for me).

That seems to be part of the reason that no change to "our" buddy is needed.  

Thank god (or richie_t, whichever comes first) for our ability to have a buddy that shows us walls and prices upon the hour every hour and without fail (except when it does fail), and it's starting to seem like a moment to stop whining about our ability and privilege to have a nice thing. that is also called our buddy thingie-ma-jiggie.

On second thought, the frustration about CB "spamming" is maybe just an expression of the things we (or some of we ... er... WO) want to see: CB posting hourly in number-goes-up-laura times? More like the old human habit of blaming the messenger for bad messages?
Still, no reason to not adapt CB's code for update frequency depending on magnitude of price change.
I'm seeing it more like a thought experiment. In the end it's Richie's decision.

I have no major qualms with CB, typically, with two caveats:

1. Long stretches of CB are giving an impression that this board is "dead".
2. Interruptions in ongoing conversations, which is a very small factor, but it reminds me of a Howard Stern movie when he was told to announce weather quite often, so he made a hilarious way to do it, willfully interrupting the narration flow to insert weather in a hilarious way.

In short, i would prefer less vociferous CB, that's all.
On a regular stable day once in 4 hr is OK, maybe even more than once an hour when we are mooning and/or plunging.

Imagine problem no 1. would be addressed and solved by implementing your suggested changes. Wouldn't make it CB appear more buman-like?
As far as one can speak about "charm" in that manner, i would want a bot be more like a bot than a human?

And of course, if Jay really is a bot, wouldn't that put his opinion about CB in a shady light, a bit, perhaps? 
Bots, one for all, all for one?

pun intended

[JayJuanGee]

And of course, if Jay really is a bot, wouldn't that put his opinion about CB in a shady light, a bit, perhaps? 
Bots, one for all, all for one?

Hey

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[OutOfMemory]

And of course, if Jay really is a bot, wouldn't that put his opinion about CB in a shady light, a bit, perhaps? 
Bots, one for all, all for one?

Hey

A reply that short came unexpected      
Wait, isn't this quote missing something at the end?
If you're really a Bot, you are for more developed than Star Trek's Data  

[JayJuanGee]

And of course, if Jay really is a bot, wouldn't that put his opinion about CB in a shady light, a bit, perhaps? 
Bots, one for all, all for one?

Hey

A reply that short came unexpected      
Wait, isn't this quote missing something at the end?
If you're really a Bot, you are for more developed than Star Trek's Data  

Like Phil, I am just trying to keep my post count up.

I would not want to fall too far behind.. not that I should feel that I am falling behind anyone... but still.

The ONLY member that is close to passing up my number of posts is LoyceV..

At our current post rate, he will likely be surpassing me at some point in the next year or two.

[OutOfMemory]

And of course, if Jay really is a bot, wouldn't that put his opinion about CB in a shady light, a bit, perhaps? 
Bots, one for all, all for one?

Hey

A reply that short came unexpected      
Wait, isn't this quote missing something at the end?
If you're really a Bot, you are for more developed than Star Trek's Data  

Like Phil, I am just trying to keep my post count up.

I would not want to fall too far behind.. not that I should feel that I am falling behind anyone... but still.

The ONLY member that is close to passing up my number of posts is LoyceV..

At our current post rate, he will likely be surpassing me at some point in the next year or two.

I'm just bored a bit, watching my Xeon E5 crunching some numbers to distill some deep space data from three nights ago.
It's old, using a spinning harddrive. At least i upgraded the system disk to a SSD, not to fall asleep before the real fun even begins...
But it does it's job, every time, almost like king daddy, but not 24/7 

Wasn't there some word count list of WO users, from a couple of months ago? I just realized i've been here since about six years now-

[philipma1957]

Too much, buddy  


EDIT: I'd recommend to change Buddy's policy to post a price update only if it moved by a certain amount of dollars.

Post a buddychart only if price moves more than 1% either direction since last post. Else wait another 60 minutes and check again.

Code:

import ccxt
import time

# Initialize the exchange
exchange = ccxt.binance()  # You can replace 'binance' with your preferred exchange

# Function to get current Bitcoin price
def get_bitcoin_price():
    ticker = exchange.fetch_ticker('BTC/USDT')
    return ticker['last']

# Function to make a post
def make_post(price_change):
    # Replace this with your actual post logic
    print(f"Bitcoin price changed by {price_change}%")

# Main loop
while True:
    try:
        # Get the current price
        current_price = get_bitcoin_price()

        # Check if there was a 1% change from the last post
        if 'last_price' in locals() and abs(current_price - last_price) / last_price > 0.01:
            make_post(abs(current_price - last_price) / last_price * 100)

        # Update last_price
        last_price = current_price

    except Exception as e:
        print(f"An error occurred: {e}")

    # Wait for 60 minutes
    time.sleep(60 * 60)

This would also make @philipma1957 happy.

damn right it would I could extend my lead over that piece of shit bot mother fucker.