when will arte ico end?
October 14th |
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why is it pumped?
Because they recently won a competition in China, which will allow them to massproduce their RFID chips. Before october is over they'll be at 12$ |
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It is getting pump and dump all over again.  Trade at own risk. It's not a p&d when the team destroys the coins they buy, because they won't be able to dump them. I'm pretty sure the team will be able to buy quite a lot, helping to prevent p&d's created by other whales |
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What's the difference with Atlant? Also, what would happen if another (inevitable) real estate market crash happens? |
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Just to let you know that SONM will be listed on Binance Exchange, And this update would explode the value of SONM (from ground to the MOON).
Current value:
SONM $0.084460 (36.12%)
And soon, it will be added on Bittrex and might exceed the value of Golem and iEXEC.
This is very much awaiting project that you might not too missed.
Days have passed since the announcement and nothing even close to an explosion has happened maybe we should judge a coin by its merits and not by the amount of exchanges that list the coin. its better to see progress and following the road maps instead of hyping just because of some new exchange maybe after its successfully being added inside trex or polo that can bring huge attentions, still needs a lots of new innovations and more marketing exposures not just an specultions that wont work anymore as investors and traders already thinking well and it wont be move anymore by just some news like this. I prefer Sonm release occasional updates causing the price to gradually rise, over spikes and random p&d's. I'm in this for the long haul, if it reaches 10$ I can buy myself a house in cash |
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CAG, the transaction-coin for change bank. If they reach 1/20th of visas current market cap, you'll get more than x100 returns.
Datum, giving you the control over your own data and allowing you to make money from it. Valued at 0.03$ per coin in the ICO, you'll see x100 returns easily in a few years.
Sonm, the better version of Golems project. Working with the highly advanced fog computing tech, Sonm will change the world. Now valued at 0.09$, it can go to 10$ a coin within 2 years no doubt.
I'm convinced these three could make you incredibly rich. My prediction for a current investment of 1 ETH each (total +- 1000$), held for 5 years, would be:
CAG value: 60$, so 30.000$
DAT value: 3$, so 30.000$
Sonm value: 20$, so +-65.000$
I'm not just pulling numbers out of thin air, I judge the chances a company has to grow and thrive given their current team, their history, the partners they work with, coin supply, current value, ATH, marketing, ...
similar projections are also being made for GOLEM, which is also quite undervalued, what makes you push SONM as the better competitor ?.. Because Golem is working towards building a future tech in todays world, whereas Sonm is working towards building a future tech in the world of tomorrow. Cloud vs Fog is like InternetExplorer vs Chrome. Also, if you compare the activity between Sonm and Golem, you'll see Sonm being way more active on social media. This will definitely help them get more volume. Last, Golem is priced a lot higher eventhough they have a larger supply. Sooner or later a lot of people will realise Sonm can overthrow Golem in terms of price and cap. |
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People are just overreacting to the stuff coming out from China. No one country controls or owns Bitcoins. It just takes one node to keep the blockchain moving. Bitcoins can not die.
true, but prices can definitely stay low for months at a time. All the chinese want is to control cryptos, to be able to tax and track them. When they can't do that, they'll ban it until they figure out a way to profit from them. That's most likely whats happening now Then a ban is what is going to happen next, they are not going to be able to regulate it, that is impossible and their citizens that still want to use bitcoin will need to hide their tracks of the tyranny of their government or just get out of China and do their business someplace else. It's actually quite easy. They can track fiat currency, so any time a deposit on their bank account is done from an exchange, they can tax that And what about peer to peer trading, what are they going to do if person A wants to sell to person B and they exchange cash that leaves no record, and if they decide to use banks accounts they could always say the deposit came not from a bitcoin transaction but for services rendered. Well there's ofcourse always ways around it, just like with cash money. The government knows it can't tax, track and control everything, so they just want to make sure to get everything they can Still dont know how they can control bitcoin. I mean bitcoin or altcoin is very hard to track. Fiat is easy to track, and new investors need to make a first payment in fiat before they can trade. |
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The price is low due to the botched ICO, but from here it can easily get x10 in less than a year, cloud computing is the future for many kind of computations.
You mean fog computing, cloud2.0 in a sense  |
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Stox market cap is so small, less than 20M$
I hope it gets listed on Binance this month and we can see huge rise
For a huge rise we'll need more than just a new listing, but it would be a great first step no doubt |
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Buying now also means you'll get some Bitcoin Gold after the fork on october 25th
One more reason, according to the articles I read and the videos I saw, I found that the 25 th October strategy is similar to the 1st august by 80 % at least. As a result, I think this operation will end up with the same result as its previous one ! that's possible of course. Either way, I hope to invest a nice amount, owning bitcoin is never a bad idea no matter the result of the fork |
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every next fork leads to less trust to btc. so may be there is chance for altcoins.
that's incorrect, with every succesful fork trust grows |
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So there were no mentions about masternode.Even it was said that Wtc won't have any. Now all of a sudden there will b masternodes but there is no information how it will work. How will rewards work, how user will run masternode. Official website is like my young sister made it. If they have such team why don't they have solid website with all official informations on it. The thing with competition is from unofficial tweet with something like "wow we won the competition". Really weird. There is no info about such competition on web. This bitcointalk is also run by community not official. So I'm quite sceptical right now about the project.
I understand your scepticism, but this project is still very young. The future looks insanely bright however, with the mass profuction of the RFID chips Waltonchain will grow to a multibillion dollar platform Still, you talking about mass production and multi billion platform and team can't even make solid website with official informations on it. These days when every kid can do proper web over night, their looks like mine web from elementary school twenty years ago. How can I trust they can manage multi-billion business? There are also no info how much coins development team will own.etc so guys. Just be careful about your investments. That's all I'm saying. Precisely, do they strike you as a team that can forge $billion contracts with major companies!? I think not. They'd be laughed out of most boardrooms. Those still in denial about the project being a scam are still putting it down to things being lost in translation. Lol. No way does this project have support from the Chinese Government or any corporations. The only evidence they have that any progress is being made is from their updates and some dodgy looking websites. 90% of the positivity on Reddit, this forum and twitter is rented/paid for shills. The latest update is pretty special: https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/73j7z4/waltonchain_first_ama_questions_answers/Up to now, many companies such as Tries, Joeone, SMEN in the apparel industry, Kehua, Lipson plastic in the manufacturing industry and Xiangyu group in the warehouse industry have applied for our WTC & RFID integration system. What is impressive is that all of them have benefited a lot by integrating our system! Compared to before integration, their yield rate has increased by 1.2%, the stock turnover increased by 5.8%, the distribution efficiency has improved by almost 100%, and the inventory efficiency almost tripled in their stores. Really!? No evidence of a working product but they are saying they have improved the distribution efficiency of "billion dollar" companies by almost 100%. This would be global news and mainstream banks and well-known funds and individuals would be getting in on the action. This is total BS. It's so bad that it's almost funny. You have been warned! It's good that we have a few devils advocates. Caution is always advised, and it bugs me how many people get mad and downright agressive when confronted with criticism. I however believe in WTC, not because where they stand now, but where they could be in 2 years |
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one of the best ico which ended, in my opinion centra, I think soon they will overtake tenx by capitalization
Allthough I'm a big supporter of ChangeBank, I welcome all other crypto banks. Today we have visa, mastercard, american express, ... and so many other banking services, that 1 cryptobank can't replace all of them. |
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CAG, the transaction-coin for change bank. If they reach 1/20th of visas current market cap, you'll get more than x100 returns.
Datum, giving you the control over your own data and allowing you to make money from it. Valued at 0.03$ per coin in the ICO, you'll see x100 returns easily in a few years.
Sonm, the better version of Golems project. Working with the highly advanced fog computing tech, Sonm will change the world. Now valued at 0.09$, it can go to 10$ a coin within 2 years no doubt.
I'm convinced these three could make you incredibly rich. My prediction for a current investment of 1 ETH each (total +- 1000$), held for 5 years, would be:
CAG value: 60$, so 30.000$
DAT value: 3$, so 30.000$
Sonm value: 20$, so +-65.000$
I'm not just pulling numbers out of thin air, I judge the chances a company has to grow and thrive given their current team, their history, the partners they work with, coin supply, current value, ATH, marketing, ...
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As mentioned above, Change Bank looks like an interesting project. However, you might be a bit late - their ICO has already launched and all the bonuses have now finished
1 ETH for 500CAG is still a great deal. That puts the value of 1CAG at 0.6$, however I think it'll be a multibillion dollar cap within the first 3 years, which puts the average value of 1CAG at 8$. Invest 300 bucks now, cash out 4000 later |
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So there were no mentions about masternode.Even it was said that Wtc won't have any. Now all of a sudden there will b masternodes but there is no information how it will work. How will rewards work, how user will run masternode. Official website is like my young sister made it. If they have such team why don't they have solid website with all official informations on it. The thing with competition is from unofficial tweet with something like "wow we won the competition". Really weird. There is no info about such competition on web. This bitcointalk is also run by community not official. So I'm quite sceptical right now about the project.
I understand your scepticism, but this project is still very young. The future looks insanely bright however, with the mass profuction of the RFID chips Waltonchain will grow to a multibillion dollar platform |
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We’ve been listed on Binance!
SNM/BTC and SNM/ETH trading pairs are now available on Binance! We would like to thank each one of you for achieving this milestone with us!
Binance couldn't ignore this insanely good project, and the other exchanges won't either, before this year is over Sonm will be listed on Bittrex and Poloniex as well, no doubt! Bittrex will be a good addition and I am not sure about poloniex as there are lots of complaints about them lately and the big players are moving over to bittrex, I heard. True, but it is considered one of the biggest so the extra volume could really push prices to 0.2$ |
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People are just overreacting to the stuff coming out from China. No one country controls or owns Bitcoins. It just takes one node to keep the blockchain moving. Bitcoins can not die.
true, but prices can definitely stay low for months at a time. All the chinese want is to control cryptos, to be able to tax and track them. When they can't do that, they'll ban it until they figure out a way to profit from them. That's most likely whats happening now Then a ban is what is going to happen next, they are not going to be able to regulate it, that is impossible and their citizens that still want to use bitcoin will need to hide their tracks of the tyranny of their government or just get out of China and do their business someplace else. It's actually quite easy. They can track fiat currency, so any time a deposit on their bank account is done from an exchange, they can tax that And what about peer to peer trading, what are they going to do if person A wants to sell to person B and they exchange cash that leaves no record, and if they decide to use banks accounts they could always say the deposit came not from a bitcoin transaction but for services rendered. Well there's ofcourse always ways around it, just like with cash money. The government knows it can't tax, track and control everything, so they just want to make sure to get everything they can |
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Yeah, bump this thread is also a good exposure for this project.
yup, 47,739 ETH Already Contributed and it's remaining 10 Hours left from target 60K ETH hope target will reach soon before ICO ends reaching the target before the ICO ended was a sign of a major success for this project. I hope that more investors come in so that all can be realized well for the success of this project for now bonus is over for new investor, btw is ICO still live or is it ended because there is no more bonus?? no change from yesterday number of investment, it still 47,918 ETH frm now on, how it will go? anyone can help? We should definitely wait for the ICO to end, but the devs convinced me that 47K raised is still really good. They anticipated all possible outcomes, including raising less than 40K. Production and development will continue as planned, only a little slower. |
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