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17381  Economy / Speculation / Re: what would the entry of 'big money' look like? on: July 28, 2017, 03:58:38 AM
in order for Forex or decent stock trading markets to add bitcoin, bitcoin has to be regulated first. you can check out the Japanese news to see how that affected things. their biggest Forex exchange called click security IIRC added bitcoin when it was regulated and i'd like to believe the rally to $2900+ was affected greatly by that.

and it will happen in the future, as bitcoin becomes bigger and more used and as other countries keep regulating bitcoin like Japan did, there is no other choice for other countries which are resisting so far (like US) to do the same.

and hopefully by that day the weird stupid $100 swings in 1 day and $700 in 7 ends Wink
17382  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bcc may overtake btc just as eth did with etc on: July 28, 2017, 03:43:27 AM
etc was ethereum and stuck with code is law. eth was the new hardfork that the majority was against. could be that bcc overtakes btc right? I mean if citibank cuts ties with btc that is... Grin

i know it was so tempting to buy it specially because everyone was telling you to, and saying it is the future. but you shouldn't have fallen for it. now you have lost about -35% of your invested money and in 2 days you will lose somewhere around -80% to -95% of it also as the bitcoin users start receiving their BCC altcoin airdrop and dump it on the market.
17383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which Wallets Support BCC on: July 28, 2017, 03:36:03 AM
If I hold my Bitcoin in my Blockchain or Coinbase Wallet, will I get any BCC after the hard fork happens?

Also, are there any exchanges that support BCC.

it is blockchain.info not blockchain. and you will have your BCC if you control the private keys. in blockchain.info you can get your private keys with a work around but with coinbase you don't and with their vault i am not sure but i guess not.

as for exchanges Coinbase said they won't add it.
ViaBTC has it already.
others didn't say much or said we are "monitoring the situation"

I heard that Electrum would support the coin, but now they said that BCC used their name without autorization... I dont know anymore...

Electrum never supported this, the BCC team only used the Electrum name and logo to release a wallet with the same name (forked from Electrum).
17384  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to trade on August 1 on: July 27, 2017, 04:41:28 AM
Only one exchange: BITTREX. BITTREX do support the segwit and provides the comfortable situation for the customers and they have also claimed that all of their customers are allowed to hold bitcoin and bcc after first of august

Ok, but will be BCC trade open or just deposit?

neither of these. and don't get your hopes up. many good exchanges are not going to add BCC pair for trading and some of them won't even credit you, your BCC tokens if you keep coins there. at some point in the future if it can generate enough volume (which is unlikely) they may add the pair to be traded. otherwise they won't bother.

read more here: https://support.bittrex.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000808991
17385  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many of you are moving all of your btc off coinbase? on: July 27, 2017, 04:27:23 AM
you shouldn't be using a web wallet to keep bitcoin anyways and should have moved your coins to cold storage a long time ago.
unless you are using coinbase as your exchange and need to have coins and fiat there to go in and out of orders to trade and make profit. that is a different way and a different level of risk taking, and there is nothing you can do about it and it has nothing to do with Aug 1.
17386  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price after Hard Fork on Aug 1? on: July 27, 2017, 04:14:36 AM
there will be a lot of fluctuations until August 1 comes, there may be a rise when the SegWit activates though.
and by that date if BCC guys go through with their altcoin fork then there may be more fluctuation after the date or even whale manipulation to keep the price down so they can buy more BTC with the money they gain from BCC dump. this may last 1+ week.
after that i would expect the rally to begin.

if the BCC guys stop their altcoin fork and start a new altcoin from scratch like a normal human being then there won't be any more fluctuation in bitcoin and the rally begins faster. but there may not be the first rise because there won't be any free money any more.
17387  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Poll: What do you think will happen with bitcoin in August after the fork on: July 27, 2017, 03:57:12 AM
here is what is happening and what will happen:
1. bitcoin will have a soft fork which will activate SegWit soon.

2. August 1 BCC will probably not reach enough hashrate to produce 1 block per hour, they change the difficulty manually to fix that and will get 51% attacked from the rest because of the low difficulty and low hashrate. exchanges (since they are losing money because of double spends) de-list this altcoin.

3. like all airdrops the price of the altcoin (BCC) will drop 1-2 days before the release and the second it is released there will be a big dump. others seeing this will panic and start asking "how do i dump it" this board will be filled with topics. they learn and dump it. price of BCC crashes hard. specially because most exchanges have de-listed them and only smaller ones have it with ultra thin orderbooks that can be dumped into and crashed with small amounts.

4. there will no longer be enough economical incentive for any miner to waste their electricity and equipment on this chain and they will give it up.

5. it disappears leaving behind a bad memory in our minds and takes away the trust a handful of people have of these people promoting BCC
17388  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Well, well now it is clear that Bitcoin is traceable. on: July 27, 2017, 03:49:36 AM
Are the Bitcoin Cash promoters getting desperate?

This is the same code so same privacy.

it is not a direct fork of bitcoin if you ever look at their github repository and because of that i have no idea how can one compare the two code bases and tell even if they are the same code! if you have a way, i would love to hear it.

also the repository is 396,445 lines last time i checked. good luck going through it and see if it really is the same thing and doesn't have hidden stuff in it Wink
17389  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Which one is The Private Key? on: July 27, 2017, 03:35:23 AM
i am assuming the following are shortened:
Quote
1Hjs               L3oXeAjdgasg5
in which case you should have put some ... or something Smiley

in any case your table is saying it correctly! the column which has strings starting with "1" are your bitcoin addresses and the column with strings starting with either "L" or "K" are your private keys.

are you sure you know what "sweep" means? it is not the same as import

to sweep open your wallet and from the menu select:
Wallet > Private keys > Sweep

then paste the full private keys there and then click the "Address button" or manually paste a new address to give electrum an address from your wallet to send the funds to. and then click "Sweep"
17390  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Well, well now it is clear that Bitcoin is traceable. on: July 27, 2017, 03:27:22 AM
8 mb blocks as in Bitcoin Cash will probably be untraceable at all.

yeah right, with 8 mb blocks and growing there will soon be a couple of nodes only which are operated by the government and to broadcast a transaction you'll have to connect to those.
the code will most probably have some additional backdoors to track too. specially the nChain thing that is created by the biggest scammer of all times.
17391  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When to invest on btc and eth on: July 26, 2017, 04:30:33 AM
Newbie here and I want to start trading soon. Just want to get tips on when to invest on btc and eth. thanks in advance! Smiley

bitcoin is the only cryptocurrency that has a considerable amount of real demand for it. that means the price is real for the most part and it can be seen from the resistance it has and the demand to buy it up even in this uncertain times that the media is filled with lots of FUD.
to buy bitcoin, any time is a good time. bitcoin is the winner of long terms which means its price will rise in long term even if it has small drops in short term.

ethereum is very different. it is "noisy", they advertise it a lot but it is in a bubble because there has never been any real demand for it. the rise of its price is purely because of 2 things:
the ICO scheme that forced people into buying it
the hype coming from massive advertisement and lies that people FOMO bought it.
investing in it at this point is highly risky in my opinion.
17392  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Cash trading well. Bitcoin's future uncertain. on: July 26, 2017, 04:15:55 AM
Now that Bitcoin Cash has hit some of the exchanges already we can see how much demand there is for Bitcoin Cash. The value shot up to $400 dollar already! It will be a matter of weeks before it's on par with the crashing Bitcoin.

Webster Dictionary and other Dictionaries are shivering in their bookshelves. kwukduck redefined the meaning of the word "shoot up" here!

from the time ViaBTC started the BCC market price of this altcoin has been dropping.
it started on 23 July @$556
and it has been dropping ever since.
currently is down to $359 and it is continueing to drop. and note that the altcoin is not even released yet. when it is released for real, there will be a lot of free tokens in all our pockets which we WILL dump and the price will crash even further.

in other words kwukduck just called a -35% drop a "shoot up"
17393  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer - mixing reinvented on: July 26, 2017, 03:52:23 AM
~ Both markets were protected by Tor and yet servers were located and one of them was made honeypot. An owner of one of the markets had four luxury cars and lot of money so everybody was asking - why keep risking a good life to provide darknet service? BitMixer owners probably asked it themselves and the answer was - it is not worth it anymore.


it is always their own fault for slipping. they do all the security measures for their servers then they use same credentials for their emails in multiple places and leak a lot of their information. i believe that was how they caught them.
it is like the KickAssTorrent owner guy who was using coinbase for his bitcoin wallet and made purchases from iTunes IIRC!
17394  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Guide] Handling splits: UASFs, BIP148, etc. on: July 26, 2017, 03:41:05 AM
If I use electrum wallet, how do I claim my altcoin?

what altcoins? there are different ones. usually when they do an airdrop (giveaway) they require you to sign a message from your keys. go to your address tab (press Ctrl+A to see it if you don't) and right click on any address you have a balance in and click sign a message. the rest is clear.

for the particular altcoin called BCC (bitcoin cash) things get a bit complicated. depending on what they will do for replay protection there are multiple ways to protect the BCC tokens and receive them as fast as possible to sell while it is worth something.
the good news is you don't need to sign message, your will have the same amount there too. but the bad news is if you don't use the replay protection stuff you will lose that airdrop https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/56867/bitcoin-cash-replay-protection/56874
the best thing is to wait until then to see even if it happens or not. then surely there will be a walkthrough to claim them easier for beginners.
17395  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand on: July 26, 2017, 03:30:10 AM
to me this looks more like a desperate attempt to make a short term profit out of thin air. possibly to cover some losses (dare i say the cost of spam attacks). or even to start selling some mining equipment to new miners since the new chain may have lower hashrate and a lower difficulty with one of their pulls on github.

otherwise anybody in this world knows very well that when you fork like this with little support your chain is doomed for a thousand different reasons. and we can see price of it is falling already and the "airdrop tokens" are not released yet!

Anyone can create one of these stupid spinoff coins at any time, but they're not successful for obvious reasons.

Here is the last one of these: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1883902.0

very good point.
17396  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto's decision on forking on: July 26, 2017, 03:21:57 AM
where is the creater of this shit? driving people crazy. I am surprised why the man is still hiding and seems lost the control of the ship?

if you are looking for a centralized cryptocurrency with 1 person in charge of everything and changing, forking as he pleases, then you can find a lot of them in the altcoin board. check out ethereum. there is 1 person in charge and will hard fork every time he loses money. go there.

we here prefer a decentralized cryptocurrency that works on consensus and anyone that tries to go against the majority and create a fork with no support is creating an altcoin and we all against it.
17397  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Before August 1, and after August 1. on: July 25, 2017, 05:28:14 PM
What y'all going to do before august 1, and after? I really hope that most of them will sell their btc.

trying to find a way to broadcast transactions over "bitcoin cash" network without needing to run their clients. even if it means coding something myself. and i need to act fast because BCC price is dripping as we speak and it is dropping fast.

suffice it to say i will use the profit i gain from this airdrop to buy more "bitcoin" since after August first there is a good chance for a big rally. and whales are getting ready for it with the recent dip.
17398  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is now dropping again on: July 25, 2017, 05:11:19 PM
I am speculating that this must be due to the recent announcement that there will be a new coin to be called as Bitcoin Cash and the continuing fear of what can be on and after August 1.

there is nothing recent about bitcoin cash, it has been going on for a while now.
the "talk" started a long time ago when BIP148 was starting to get serious.
bitcoin ABC (the client) has been going on for a while.
ViaBTC started selling their cloudmining thing for BCC last week IIRC
ViaBTC added trading for BCC pair 2 days ago. BCC price has been dropping ever since.
bitmain repeated that they were only supporting UAHF if UASF went through 2 days ago and kinda said ViaBTC is on their own

this drop is pure manipulation...
17399  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: 1hash pool just mined an invalid block again on: July 25, 2017, 07:14:34 AM
ELI5

What does this mean? Good or bad?

Good or bad?

It's bad for miners who use 1hash pool, as they are loosing profit by wasting their hash power on mining useless blocks.

It's good for all the other miners, as they are gaining profit, as the result of 1hash pool mining useless blocks.

For me - it's neither good or bad. Just found it interesting.

+ Good, because it shows the consensus rules are working properly (or rather enforced properly by the nodes) by rejecting an invalid block fast and smooth.
17400  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: % of ownership on: July 25, 2017, 06:41:57 AM
no there is no way. bitcoin is what they call "pseudo-anonymous". which means all you can do is to query the blockchain and find how much bitcoin belongs to what key (how much each bitcoin address has balance).
like this: https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html
but you can never tell if an address belongs to an individual or a service. for example we know the second address in that list (as the tag under it says) belongs to a service called bitfinex which is a bitcoin exchange service.

go through that link, i guess it has the data you are looking for.
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