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1741  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: October 03, 2021, 11:12:10 PM
Final score 2-1 for  Espanyol day by day La Liga is getting boring I don't see any attraction in this league anymore many matches end unexpectedly
I no longer watch this league and don't bet just watch from livescore if i bet i will definitely get a lot of losses  Cheesy
Getafe 1 vs 1 Sociedad , Granada 1 vs 0 Sevilla HT , there are top 3 teams playing today and all of them failed to get 3 points? lol
Isn't it what should make the league more entertaining, rather than the same old scorelines where the top 3 keep thrashing the bottom sides from week to week?

For years, the Premier League has been labeled as entertaining because of its unpredictability sometimes and any true fan or neutral fan should find that entertaining and not boring unless if of course it's making lose bets.
+1
it might be a huge impact to lose 2 GOATS in a short time span and those rivalry between cristiano & messi has at least 30% additional entertainment. la liga has now losses that 30% entertainment...  no wonder a lot of people saying something like that.

and the barcelona nightmare after messi legacy seems continue, so do with real madrid post-cristiano legacy...
its like mission impossible to replace those guys.
some people says mbappe vs haaland is the next gen. well im not sure
1742  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There is something wrong with cryptocurrencies? on: October 03, 2021, 02:56:47 PM
Just one aswer to all why I consider mining as not fair.
At the beginning (at least I understood it like that) it was easy to mine the bitcoins. True?

And in general: you can get something for nothing. I do not count excessive amount of energy and hardware.

If an algorithm to solve discrete log problem was invented, what would happen then? It is not proved it is impossible it is only believed and proved by the passing years...

And those mining centers, do they simply do the brute force calculations? How successfull they are?

I read over here there are also dedicated ASIC chips, what funcionality do they offer?

EZ.
but making profit out of it... that wasnt easy.
there is a lot of consequences just like any other business but even much more riskier here.

discrete logarithm? you sounds like a geek man. come on.
as time goes by technology get advanced faster than our blinking eyes.. so do with crypto & bitcoin itself, isnt it?
as time goes by...  a problem solved causing another one outdated and vulnerably broken.. is that scenario you talking about? a famous quantum computing..  etc ?
1743  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: October 03, 2021, 02:01:00 PM
Manchester united 1 - 1 Everton



 Cry

for the fourth time I've lost money betting on Manchester united, and it's very sad that a team with so many good players is having such bad results. very sad

Burnley 0 - 0 Norwich

Chelsea 3 - 1 Southampton

as expected, chelsea won, but the odds were very low, that's why I didn't bet on this game

Well you should quadrupled your bet amount in the next manchester united game which its against leicester...
i believe the odds will be around 1.7 or 1.9 for manchester united moneyline, revenge time.. i'll go for it tho.

oh and brentford in action again.. leading to west ham at the first half! damn this brentford... they are above arsenal and tottenham in standing lol
i wish liverpool lost by 1 goal difference only or at least get a draw against manchester city in a match that will get started after this brentford match.
1744  Economy / Speculation / Re: No BTC Holding is risky on: October 03, 2021, 01:49:39 PM
But.. but..

its often bring fortune to whoever lucky enough bought bitcoin randomly and leave it there for a while and when they comeback they realized that they are a millionaire in just few weeks. that is fun.
but at the otherside there is some people who taking high risk to put their live saving in bitcoin and cant survive when it falls down to -80% and cash them out in deep misery.
none of those what so called HODLING has zero risk.
1745  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How are you taking the China Bitcoin Ban? on: October 02, 2021, 10:27:31 PM
The consensus of the majority seems not to see this it serves as a worrying part of crypto development. People has been satisfied with the market performance without China and the current news that we've heard seemingly doesn't affect us. People who have the trust in crypto will simply ignore this, and I did.

Can't stop them from spreading FUDs just to stop Bitcoin where it continues to grow despite all of these things. We will still be in success without China, that is how we figure out.

Look at what is happening to the crypto market, bitcoin is going bullish instead of going down. Though there was a slight decline when China announced such news but only short period of time. And now, btc is going up again. So yes, it seems the crypto community doesn't make the news from China a big deal anymore. They can't control what may happen to this market. And will continue to grow without their participation.
or... they might successfully reached their goal to make bitcoin price dropped for a while and the current bouncing back is made in china lol. nobody just know... one thing is pretty sure that china government play it dirty , they talk A but act B..

they ban bitcoin but also facilitate crypto https://www.scmp.com/tech/tech-trends/article/3136515/china-plans-accelerate-blockchain-development-and-adoption-push , and they did it over and over again, people confused and get lost with all of these Grin
1746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: October 02, 2021, 04:46:26 PM
What a play from Chelsea for the second goal but it was all created by one pass from Ross Barkley who made a sweet pass to Azpilicueta on the right and the cross was perfect for the two strikers hanging inside to just tuck the ball in. It was the first touch of Ross Barkley after getting substituted in and it was first goal for Werner in this PL season. Really that pass deserved a result and it did.  Smiley
Tuchel knows his players, I think this much of him, before the match begun I criticized some of his selection but at the end I think he is a manager that needs his authority to do his coaching job, and his changes made instant contributions for the blues, I felt bad for chiwell when he conceded the penalty from his reckless tackle but oh did he have the last smile over southampton with a marcos alonso technique of a goal, congrats to timo am excited for him.
beautiful revenge for a beautiful goal with volley from chilwell isnt it?

i thought mendy would replaced by kepa when penalty given to southampton lol tuchel selection are pretty odd recently after a back to back losses to manchester city and juventus, i think he just making a rotation for possible new best 11 formula as mason mount form get dropped but he shown a great impact after he get subbed in. will he did it again to put different line up next match? i wish he didnt.
just put werner side by side with lukaku and bring mount back while waiting kante finishing the covid isolation.
a great result to be back on track, come on chelsea.
1747  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 02, 2021, 04:10:07 PM
Transfer rumours:

Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp is on Barcelona's wish list to replace current boss Ronald Koeman with the Dutchman's future at the club under threat after a poor start to the season. In Barcelona they must be very desperate if they think like this because I think this combination is not realistic.
Chelsea and Germany striker Timo Werner, 25, faces a fight for his future at the club after struggling for form since the arrival of Romelu Lukaku. It seems that "Mr. mishit" will soon leave the club after he was replaced by Lukaku  Grin
Real Madrid will have the money to sanction a move for Borussia Dortmund and Norway striker Erling Haaland, 21, next summer, while also maintaining an interest in Paris St-Germain and France star Kylian Mbappe, 22. Real has megalomaniacal plans again but in the current difficult financial situation in football the question is how realistic is all this.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/58765788

That is extraordinary if klopp do really leaving liverpool.. he is in longterm project there although steve G could come and start a new legacy as a coach... it is not worth it in my opinion except of course if klopp has personal condition to accept barcelona offer, it would looks like a betrayal for liverpool fans though as there is no serious problem going on and the fans has already loving him very much for his effort and passion on and off the pitch.

about werner situation, he is scored twice earlier  Grin enough to put him a place in the starting line up along with lukaku, no way he is leaving soon.
1748  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: October 02, 2021, 05:53:39 AM
Plus united have cristiano ronaldo now, i dont see any factor for manchester united to lose this one unless of course its football any thing can really happen bla bla bla...
What team are stronger? Aston Villa or Everton? If Aston Villa can beat Manchester United, so why Everton can not beat Manchester United?

Recent matches show that Manchester United have problems with defense and midfield areas and if they can not fix it, Ronaldo can not save them. Midfielders of Man United now are bad in both defense and attacking. I don't know why Bruno lost his performance in this season and why Sancho played very bad like that.

Cavani and a change of tactic can help with Cavani is part of the new attacking system. He can score and he can contribute more to the system. Ronaldo will play as a pure striker and Cavani will make movement to open space for Ronaldo and other midfielders.
i think sheriff tiraspol are above all... they beat real madrid so they are stronger than manchester city, liverpool and bla bla bla, that is broken logic bruh, you cant do that..  its illegal lol.

its nervous feeling to play alongside your own childhood idol,  rather to impress the idol they got slipped multiple times.. we are all experienced it if you do play in sunday league where you are in a team with skillful players..  eaither you feel down or motivated to impress the whole team and sometimes you failed to deliver it,  similar situation i guess.
just look at when the club announced cristiano transfer..  the whole team member actively expressing how unbelievable it was to have cristiano back at home on social media,  lol. i can feel that excitement tho.

the matter of time for cristiano to make everyone comfort and with his outstanding attitude i believe he dont want to be treated too much as a special one.
1749  Economy / Economics / Re: The $69m NFT buyer & seller were partners on: October 01, 2021, 11:18:05 PM
So what does it even mean, that the highest bid was just to attract everyone. They need to send out the fees which will not be that huge considering they shelled out $69 million to create the hype around the NFT market. I know that some of these things are stupid and even i was thinking why would anyone shell out millions for stupid digital art when they can do everything in the world that has some meaning Cheesy.
well collectible thing always had its value, sometimes it is about satisfaction ... and for those people who have too much money, they often spend money on stupid things just try to not get bored.
this just remind me on netflix serial called squid game,  a group of rich people get bored and created crazy game for the sake of satisfaction.

but this NFT thing way more complicated, the vision of NFT itself is really really great, but there is always an obstacle and write off the good instention of NFT invention. f*ckk them and we just moving on.
1750  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: October 01, 2021, 10:46:37 PM
It is time for a big game this weekend which is Atletico Madrid - Barcelona.

This game will not be an easy one for both teams surely. Even though Atletico Madrid seem like the better side, Barcelona can really surprise us when we don't expect it from them. But it is also very true that Atletico Madrid are playing much different in their home games. They keep the control of the game in those ones and have a big advantage. Barcelona are in a worse condition than before as Messi is not here anymore. They are just trying to improve their performance day by day with the current squad. But I don't think that they have a chance to win here. I think that Atletico Madrid will win this one by one goal at worst.
Suarez and Griezmann will face their old club? Last time they regretted letting Suarez move to join their rivals, maybe Griezmann will let them regret it a second time?
Odds are way in favor of ATM @1.87 vs @4.3 for Barca. I know Barcelona isn't in its best shape but ATM isn't fine right now too.. Literally anything could happen in that game.

Playing at home is one of the reasons why Atletico Madrid are the favourites another thing is because since the start of the season the performance of Atletico Madrid is much better than Barcelona. Atletico are ready to face Barcelona after beating Milan in the UCL and the players' confidence remains stable, otherwise Barca are in difficult conditions in the local league and UCL.
insane strange situation to see barcelona had that high odds, we usually get 1.07 or 1.13 in prime barcelona where iniesta, xavi, busquets and on fire messi still there.
damn time flies...  and barcelona right now are fucked up, the new barcelona president expected to bring a revolutions and changes , it get even more worse.

rare chance to get such high odds on barcelona, what about to bet against the odds? i mean its barcelona..  they could still win it, i'll just pick them straight to win though,  lets do this.
1751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 01, 2021, 03:26:16 PM
Juventus is back on track from 4 games on and I think the team finally found the joy to play football in a defensive style even if in Serie A they don't care if they get goals as long as they score more than the other team. Funny how italian teams kinda forgot how to defend in the last years so maybe it's time for Juventus to play in Serie A like they did in UCL ? If they will ...I really think everyone will have troubles to score against them.

^ Juventus had a horrible start to the season but I'm glad that they seem to be back on track again. Though they are now placed 10th after 6 matches having only won 2 and having a goal difference of 0. They are not able to score like before they did with Ronaldo. They are also conceding more goals than they usually do. We know Juventus is a team that has a solid defense but that hasn't been the case so far. Hoping that they will win the match against Torino. But it's gonna be a challenge for them as they don't have Dybala and Morata as they are injured as far as I know.
The chaos is everwhere.. hits european top clubs such as barcelona, real madrid and juventus itself, the crisis are being recovered and it has a lot of things to sacrifice, it takes time as for the consequences...  juventus should have bring cristiano replacement but then didnt spend much money to bring one, they are quite struggle now but its backup with morata leading the frontline to attack and scoring. it is irony... but juventus are not alone.

we might see a real competitive serie A in the next 5 or 10 matches from now. i guess..
1752  Economy / Economics / Re: Chinese loans leaves many countries in "hidden debts" on: October 01, 2021, 03:07:52 PM
The street has this story as their morning coffee topics for years now...

i just surprised that there is a lot of people still talking about this and feel surprised in 2021 Grin.
talking about macro economy isnt that easy, you'll just looks like a conspiracy theories die hard fan tho.
so far so good, china just doing their thing to conquer the world, is that what are you trying to say?
well, just look around you and see where is that stuff made? 90% must be made in china, that is the realistic power they have.
not that one you talked about .. the topic are quiet hard to consumed.
1753  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: October 01, 2021, 01:09:52 PM
Manchester United fans are quite optimistic against Everton now that their squad is confident of a win with Villarreal and can beat Everton in what will be the Premier League game this week
Referring to the statistics of the meeting of the two teams, Manchester United has a positive record when meeting with everton, manchester united is unbeaten in its last five meetings against everton, but of course the statistical advantage does not provide an advantage for the team and it is possible that the reverse condition will occur in that match, Moreover, the conditions are quite different this season, Everton, who plays at Old Trafford, will certainly make good use of the match to gain points to rank in the top 4 of the standings, in addition to Everton's appearance in the Premier League, which so far has only lost one of six matches, and Four wins and one draw will certainly be very difficult for Manchester United to be able to get an easy victory in that match.

Plus united have cristiano ronaldo now, i dont see any factor for manchester united to lose this one unless of course its football any thing can really happen bla bla bla...

i bet there will be over 1.5 goals.. this kind match always bring intensityv, some yellow cards also could be given more than just 3 or 4.
so the choice is in yellow cards over under and total goals seems pretty interesting to me.
1754  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: September 30, 2021, 09:53:30 PM
Wow,Napoli with an odd 1.16 lost to a team from the Russian Premier League like Spartak Moscow.No one should come and tell that Napoli played with 10 men as the difference in quality between Serie A where Napoli plays and is usually a contender for the title,and Russian Premier League is enormous,they should have won this game easily,yet they lose 2-3 to a team which their odds were 14 or a bit more depending on different bookmakers.Europa League was full of surprises tonight.

An amazing result, but rather from Napoli. Spartak is famous for being very unstable and can lose to an obvious outsider, but it can also beat any team. If you could read the comments of Russian fans (Spartak has a very large fan base in its country and a large number of haters) after Spartak conceded a goal in the first seconds  Grin
Normal day in europa league, you should not be surprised at all as that competition itself well known as a place full of surprises...

you can start betting on random newcomer to europa league to win this competition! especially since the covid19 hit us...  its likely everyteam has nearly same chance to win in a match!
for instance sheriff in CL beat real madrid..  that is new normal though lol
spartak beat napoli? well i could say it was the old normal.  Grin
1755  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: September 30, 2021, 03:43:58 PM
Ronaldo's goal in the additional times, has burning my smile, bcoz i bet for draw in this matches Shocked
Same here  Cry I thought I was winning the match. Last night was a nightmare for me. I lost all the bets. Placed bet for Barcelona to draw & Chelsea to win as well but both of the team messed up; I didn’t expect Chelsea to lose at all.
Besides, I had placed bet for both team to score in all this three matches. Win only one. Out of 6 matches, I won only one LOL. I need to have a break.
Not only you I also lost a bet because of the chaos from Barcelona and Chelsea that had to drop which I didn't expect, and the saddest thing was that Barcelona couldn't score a single goal against Benfica so this is really bad what I see in the current season for Barcelona.

I thought with Chelsea's continuous attack I could get back a goal or win but in fact it's still nil even with so many chances Lukaku can't enter it, ahh the main thing is that both teams I bet on are bad in UCL matches.

 Cry Cry
guess that when chelsea conceded im pretty confident that my team would score the next goal to make it a draw at least or making a come back even better,  so yeah i put my money in live betting for both chelsea to come back from behind with a low odds @6.5 for such a game with 73 percent ball possesion on us, god damn difficult defence from juventus, we busted it all in the end.

at the other match i do loving how cristiano bagged another champions league goal and making him a caesar in UCL . i hate manchester united personally for no reason but i adore cristiano very much for his great achievements, attitude on & off the field. hat off.
1756  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Spain bans betting adds - no celebrities, no sport sponsorship, no daytime adds on: September 29, 2021, 11:37:58 PM
The rumor has it since early 2021 but i thought the ban jas been lifted in july/august as ive seen the news about that.
but seeing some clubs like alaves didnt have a main sponsor in their shirt makes me confused.
so its still there ... the ban is still there i dont get it with the way such advanced country doing this . to protect the young citizen that in gambling crisis ? well i still dont understand with this method.

spain clubs just compounded pain through huge debts...
1757  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: September 29, 2021, 11:07:49 PM
Damn, of the many opportunities Chelsea created but none of them scored...

juventus leads group H. btw juventus is very lucky not to be humiliated by chelsea at home.

Minus 6 goals, no points, no goal, bottom of group E unbelievable this is barcelona I just described in 2021/2022 UEFA champions league, if Messi was just the greatest players of all time, him leaving Barcelona won't have made them this bad, Messi was everything to Barcelona, now is like Barcelona, teeth and claws has been removed, they are so ordinary, losing to Benfica like a team in portuguese lower tier, makes Barcelona a potential prey to athletico Madrid this weekend, I think I would sack koeman now before Barcelona becomes like arsenal.
looks like barca are in crisis, will they be able to qualify for the next round!
Freakin unlucky chelsea, but classic italian club tactic to use counter attack...  its been predicted but they keep it till the last minute, well done allegri.
lukaku should have scored if he just make a little touch to chip the ball through sczesny dammit, freakin unlucky.

about barcelona crazy poor form, i just think that it is the greatest time to bet on barcelona to get through group phase  Grin it must have really really nice odds! go allin!
1758  Economy / Economics / Re: [LIST] Countries that own bitcoin on: September 29, 2021, 03:43:11 AM
I may be very wrong but I believe Bulgaria and Ukraine own Bitcoin as well, seized Bitcoins to be specific.  The United States may also own some seized Bitcoins although I believe they auctioned all or most of it long time ago.

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There was a rumor that Bulgaria holds 200,000 BTC but it has never been proved. There was also a report how Ukrainian officials hold a lot of BTC, but it's not accurate and exaggerated.

A lot of countries hold Bitcoin in a sense that it was seized from criminals, but El Salvador is the first and only country that officially bought Bitcoin.
Well it's impossible if a crazy country like russia , ukraina etc didnt follow bitcoin up and own some of them , they like to war and bitcoin is the perfect one to funding it , anonymously and get high return after a while... thats what might they think in bitcoin.

i still believe there is a lot of country out there holding bitcoin secretly quietly. the list are indeed should be larger
1759  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The difficulty of explaining Bitcoin to people is massive on: September 26, 2021, 11:38:13 PM
Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general are just an "exotic" concept that people don't immediately understand. are not. I have faced the same emotional future as you and most interestingly those who are not willing to accept bitcoin as a payment option or safe investment. The point here is that we need to define these concepts of bitcoin as a long-term investment and aim for the benefits of bitcoin like any other type of investment.

In my opinion, best way to explain to people especially those who aren't take savvy is to not be pushy. Telling people that Bitcoin is a long term investment from the get-go might drive them away faster even though that's actually the truth and how it works. I tend to give people a couple of YouTube videos on either of the following topics:

  • What is Bitcoin
  • What is Blockchain
  • Getting started with bitcoin

When they are done, I put it up for discussion to see what they've learnt and then try to break down more difficult concepts they didn't get right including answering their questions before telling them about how they can participate either by becoming a trader or investor. In explicit terms.
+1

never easy to elaborate a computer science + economic breakthrough stuff like bitcoin to someone even they are really interested in bitcoin.
so that would always stay the same to become the hardest job in the world until they realized and experienced a good impact. time is the only thing can make it smooth easier.
but we should always put a work on it to educate people around so they can feel the bitcoin benefit sooner than most people around the globe.
1760  Economy / Speculation / Re: New (old) FUD coming from China? on: September 26, 2021, 11:12:24 PM
Ha ha... China always come to such news to dump BTC lol. This is now very normal in crypto market. Don't know exactly why the market crash again today. But this could be a reason also. Because know after such news market will crash temporary. So why they don't take the opportunities of sell and buy back.

The dump of market is temporary. If we see back history of bitcoin we may see there are lot of news and pump dump game in crypto. But it was not last long. Hope this time also happen the same thing and bitcoin will rise again with more power.
temporary but still it could have a huge impact...  think about how the last time they did this and the market crashed to 6 months low. prepare for that, even though this time could be really different as there is a lot of instituions, professional fund manager and a country that adapted bitcoin as a currency get involved ... preparing always a better option rather than putting too much confidence. sivis pacem para belum.

nobody knows also how much china government holding in bitcoin, with this continuous crazy sentiment from china... i can only see that the currency war has begun since long time ago.
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