a valid signed message can only be created if the person signing the message controls the private key for that address. given that a message including the date can be signed from an address posted by the person a few months ago, that message can prove ownership of the account by that person. this prevents you from taking hacked accounts as collateral, which would result in your loss.
So if I am going to offer no collateral loans, I don't really need to use signed message? Am I correct? You'll need some lube.... You'll get scammed long before making any decent amount of profit. If somebody is reputable they can get loans at much better rates than here, if not they're just looking to take your BTC
I think I will start to offer loans with those high trust members 1st, and after I know more about, will open to high rank members with low / no trust. Btw, if I going to ask for like 5% for a week loan, is it too high for the interest? if youre planning to offer no collateral loans, thats just asking to get scammed. the "no collateral" in the thread title becomes more or less a big target for any and all potential scammers. however, a signed message would still help i nthe case of a no collateral loan, as a hacked account has nothing to lose; if a hacked account with green trust took out a no collateral loan, it is likely the account would be granted that loan. with a signed message, you can verify that the same trustworthy person is the one on that account requesting the loan. |
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Dont try greedy if you play in gambling
Because you loss. Need Control your money and self control.
Good advice there Tauja. Words to live by especially in this day of BTCUsing it to gamble is harder to control because it isn't physical and easy to deposit and waste it really fast! i agree, but unfortunately, people never follow this piece of advice. 9 times out of 10, people will chase their losses if they lose, or just keep aiming higher and higher if they win. eventually, without cashing out, it is very likely that the player will go bust. |
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Do you even understand what we are screaming about ?? This is absolute BREACH OF PRIVACY. What the fuck is wrong with you?? Why you guys upto putting other's personal info online just for the sake of few BTCs ? unfortunately, morality is superseded by money to most people, and apparently the morality of the person running the cloudminr.io operation is worth less than 0.2 BTC. |
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a valid signed message can only be created if the person signing the message controls the private key for that address. given that a message including the date can be signed from an address posted by the person a few months ago, that message can prove ownership of the account by that person. this prevents you from taking hacked accounts as collateral, which would result in your loss.
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Could someone please give me an example of what I could offer up as collateral for a 0.75btc 3month 15% loan? Genuine fully employed bloke here just looking to make some investments. I've had so many issues with Igot not processing my btc withdrawal requests I am at risk of missing out on a good opportunity.
Thanks in advance
a general rule is something easily transferable to the lender or escrow that can be liquidated to cover the loan amount in the case of a default. check out this thread here as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0 |
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I registered (as I do as most sites  ) and was surprised of the level of scrutiny they let new costumers go through. I even was rejected on some submitted documents. It could be a marketing thing, to appear almost as a bank when I borrow fiat, but when you look at the interest rates it's insane. It's hard to imagine anyone takes a loan and invest them to actually be able to pay for these rates. indeed, some of these loans go for thousands of % apr, and its just another incentive for borrowers to just default and take the money. if anything, the high interest rates just bait people in to lend (donate) people money on the site. |
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I'm sorry, but as a non-Ebay user (perhaps the last in the world?), what advantages do I get by having an old account with good feedback compared with a new account? Is it simply a trust issue?
pretty much, iirc trusted seller accounts also get funds available from paypal immediately, as opposed to a 30 day wait period before funds become released. |
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Yes, of course you can. Just don't own two wallets with one service as 99 percent of the time that is a violation of the service's ToS.
im assuming you mean the online web wallet services such as xapo and blockchain, but im not even sure if its against their ToS to own two accounts with them, never heard of anything like that. as for HD wallets, there are no restrictions whatsoever. youre going to have to show me something that says its a violation of their ToS to hold multiple accounts with them. |
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we should not trust you to pay it to you directly.
instead, if you wished for loan to buy S5, get the direct payment address.
do not get a loan without any specific reason, because unspecified loans are likely a scam, especially without collateral.
even if sent to a payment address there is zero reason for trust; if that was done we would just be buying the miners for op instead of lending the money to buy them. |
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You can always invest. Check out my thread with payment screenshots
^ anyone have tried that site? I just checked it and it looks way too good to be true. 2% profit daily is just.. if its too good to be true its probably not. always keep that in mind. 2% daily makes it sound like a ponzi if you ask me. as far as investments go, converting some btc into CLAMs and putting them in just-dice's bankroll is a decent idea. |
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For the average person the best way is probably just getting his forum account to hero member+ and getting payed from sig campaigns.
We need much time to get higher rank with our activity, that just increase 14 activities for every two weeks. And atleast we need the full member rank or above to get good payment rate. But its the safest way imo, no risk and no scam. not always, if the campaign is not escrowed and the person running the campaign decides to disappear, then people enrolled in the campaign would have been scammed of the payment they were due for their week/month/day in the signature campaign. |
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I can sell you one with a bank account that you can use, a physical debit card that I will ship to you, a us-based telephone number you will have full access to, a secondary US phone number and a phone verified gmail account.
The debit card can be used to make purchases, verify other accounts, withdraw from atm's, etc....
Are you still looking for PP account ?
I have one ,
Registered : 2012
Type : Personal
Verified with VCC
i would recommend not selling to this guy, developerindemand is a confirmed alt of BTCBLOGGER, it is likely the account will be used for malicious or fraudulent purposes. |
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A billionaire decides to waste some money and creates a provably fair EV+ casino.
Don't liken this to investing in the house of a dice site, as you don't have as much security as you get, with the maximum winnnings and that sort of things.
How much would you gamble in this hypothetical EV+ casino?
Hmm, my luck at gambling is such, that I would likely lose all my bankroll before being able to take advantage of the positive player edge.  But subSTRATA is right, of course: this would be an ideal opportunity to take advantage of the +EV, for however long the casino manages to last. Yes, depending on the size of your bankroll and the amount of +EV, the "Risk of Ruin" can be shockingly high even when you have an actual advantage. well, of course, you are gambling after all, but with BRM the player should come out ahead in the long run (1 million+ bets). |
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Loan amount: 0.04 BTC
Date to repay: 25 July 2015
Amount to repay: 0.044 BTC
Reason for loan: Need to buy something in real life
Offered collateral: My Account
Address to send to: 1EQ9KgSKx11kev4CtZYVdPR4hJGFcM7xxX
@OP if you dont mind i can give him loan @Borrower - please hire escrow for your account . i dont mind, but please do keep the details and discussions regarding your loan outside of my thread if you can, no need to ask for permission as i am not giving the loan. try pming him to see if he still needs the loan, and be sure to post the loan details and agreement in a separate thread in the lending section so that everything is visible to the public. also be sure to get a signed message form alvin so that the collateral is indisputably yours should he default. good luck! |
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DEAR SUBSTATA, UNFORTUNATELY THE DAY AFTER I GOT THE 500,000 SATOSHI LOAN FROM YOU I WAS BANNED FROM BITCOINTALK FOR 30 DAYS. I WAS UNABLE TO POST MESSAGES OR PRIVATE MESSAGES.. SOMETHING TO DO WITH INSUBSTANTIAL POSTS WHICH I'M STARTING TO THINK THIS FORUM IS MORALIZED MY NAZI'S ,I SAW YOU ADDED A 10% INCREASE ON MY LOAN WHICH WAS NOT DISCUSSED WITH ME ON THE TERMS, YOU NEVER SAID PAY YOU BACK DOUBLE I JUST FIGURED I WOULD OFFER THAT FOR GOOD BUSINESS AND YOU AGREED .THE FACT YOU HAD OTHER PEOPLE GO ON MY TRUST LEDGER AND LIE AND SAY I DIDN'T PAY THEM BACK AS WELL SHOWS ME YOU ARE SOMEONE I WOULD NOT DO BIZ WITH AGAIN . I DON'T LIE CHEAT OR STEAL AND WITHOUT INVESTIGATING WHY I WAS NOT RESPONDING AND JUST ADDING MORE CHARGES AND HAVING OTHER PEOPLE LIE ABOUT ME NOT PAYING THEM AS WELL IS WELL, DISGUSTING ...OVER 500,000 SATOSHI . TO BE HONEST I WAS BORED AND WANTED POSITIVE FEEDBACK THAT'S WHY I TOOK THE LOAN .INSTEAD I FOUND A WORLD OF SHARKS AND AND LIARS...I WOULDNT BE SURPRISED IF I WAS BANNED ON PURPOSE TO NOT PAY THE LOAN BACK IN TIME...THE REASON AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME JUST SEEMS TO FIT THE SCAM.
well look who decided to show up. since you calling me a scammer for some reason ill make this public. DEAR SUBSTATA, UNFORTUNATELY THE DAY AFTER I GOT THE 500,000 SATOSHI LOAN FROM YOU I WAS BANNED FROM BITCOINTALK FOR 30 DAYS. I WAS UNABLE TO POST MESSAGES OR PRIVATE MESSAGES..
nothing stopped you from making a thread in meta about your ban and maybe i would have noticed it, and there was nothing stopping you from creating a newbie account just to send me a pm saying you were banned, and ask for an extension which im sure the mods would allow a pm. SOMETHING TO DO WITH INSUBSTANTIAL POSTS
yeah i skimmed your post history, they was pretty insubstantial if you ask me. WHICH I'M STARTING TO THINK THIS FORUM IS MORALIZED MY NAZI'S ,
the nazi regime of germany/europe ended decades ago. there is the neo-nazi group nowadays, but thats irrelavent. I SAW YOU ADDED A 10% INCREASE ON MY LOAN WHICH WAS NOT DISCUSSED WITH ME ON THE TERMS
you ask me for a loan , you agree to the terms in my op post. you dont make the rules. YOU NEVER SAID PAY YOU BACK DOUBLE I JUST FIGURED I WOULD OFFER THAT FOR GOOD BUSINESS AND YOU AGREED .
yeah.. you offered to pay back double and i agreed, whats your point? you proposed some conditions, you should stick to your own words at the very least. did you even intend to pay back what you agreed to in the first place? THE FACT YOU HAD OTHER PEOPLE GO ON MY TRUST LEDGER AND LIE AND SAY I DIDN'T PAY THEM BACK AS WELL SHOWS ME YOU ARE SOMEONE I WOULD NOT DO BIZ WITH AGAIN .
how were they lying? you didnt pay me back.i kept the repayment address unused for quite some time, and there is not a single transaction of 0.01 or 0.011 to that address. you didnt pay it back. no one's making you take loans from me, feel free not to. its not like youre getting a loan from me or anyone else after this. INSTEAD I FOUND A WORLD OF SHARKS AND AND LIARS...I WOULDNT BE SURPRISED IF I WAS BANNED ON PURPOSE TO NOT PAY THE LOAN BACK IN TIME...THE REASON AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME JUST SEEMS TO FIT THE SCAM.
youre the one who proposed you undertake the loan shark rate of 100%. and are you really saying im working something with the admins and mods behind the scenes to get you banned and calling that a scam? since when did i get something out of this? you getting banned is your own fault, your posts ranged in the area of 5-7 words per post and were insubstantial by anyone's standards. youre delusional and childish. also, you admitted to taking out a loan just for the rep, dont even try to play the victim here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=423785 |
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thanks for all reply's
yeah i want to join a signature campain
but i can't join if im a newbie
how get i jr member? or higher?
newbie can still join the signature campaign, but it's better to just wait until Jr.member and payment slightly higher  yeah thats my idea 2 i want to earn Bitcoins with game's like HYPER not lottery's or things like that but games like minecraft tf2... but not dice or lottery Can anyone help? Mate that type of method in bitcoin earnings have slow process to make your bitcoins grow. But for the meantime since your forum account is new you can treat it a side earnings. You can google some of it. If you reached member rank precious your time and joined sigcampaign as others suggest. rather than slow, it should be pointed out that that method of "earning" bitcoins is something that is just done on the side to enjoying whatever game you might be playing. you shouldnt be playing the games on HYPER for the sole purpose of earning bitcoins, if you enjoy the game already and want to try their servers or whatnot and get some coin on the side, thats when you want to try it out. |
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And what does that proof ???And what does that proof  Anyone can open skype accounts and use any nick if the nick is not taken yet he really likes those question marks, and the face, probably kralle. Your face, your ass whats the difference well i have to make a new one but really i not see where i trolled Hello, i have an account named (brach) it got banned for the reason :trolling what i have done wrong for reference on c0dafu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1107650.msg11780117#msg11780117 |
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Most likely selene72 wasn't hacked or bought account.
His skype is samo.svoboda , just type "samo.svoboda scammer" or "selene7272 scammer" on google you'll see this guy also scammed people on steamcommunity and reddit.
oh nice find on that, ill take a skim through those, and if you could delete the latter half of my post in the quote that'd be great, i meant it for the other thread. |
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do u need lendings still ?
im really starting to think you have a problem. just dont send the money. again, im REALLY starting to think there might be something wrong with you. |
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