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1741  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: March 01, 2017, 08:46:21 AM

I literally have tears of joy in my eyes...I never sold a single one of my DASH since I first started buying...Never sell, Always Buy

You've just explained better than I could why the whole idea of merchant adoption based on the principle that people will want to swap Dash for cornflakes needs to be re-thought.
1742  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 28, 2017, 10:11:40 PM

Front page fintech coverage today...



Actual article...

http://paymentweek.com/2017-2-28-dash-partners-with-wall-of-coins-to-help-users-exchange-crypto-for-cash/
1743  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 28, 2017, 06:36:55 PM

So this is just insane and if some Masternodes decide to sell, price will just crash imo.

You can't tell demand from looking at an order book.

They fill up when price is reducing and evaporate when it's going up because all the bids go off order-book since traders don't want to chase the asks away.
1744  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 26, 2017, 01:30:53 AM

you can't forge the existence of coins in your account.

Yeah, I know you can't in theory. Unfortunately you can in practice - it's just a question of how "buggy" your code is which is why the "backers" of cryptocurrency's value are not the least bit interested in your privacy and extremely interested in blockchain transparency.


1745  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 26, 2017, 12:48:59 AM

Your bank account isn't viewable by everyone in the world, isn't it?

It is if you're the bank who's endorsing its value.

Since "everyone in the world" is who endorses Bitcoin's value - that's who gets to view it.

Encrypt that at your peril Wink

(P.S. Contrary to the faulty propaganda you like to put about, anecdotal knowledge of transaction participants # contractually defined money. You need encryption to protect the latter because it's nominated. You need mixing to protect the former because it's un-nominated but not backed & therefore must remain transparent. If you get that principle the wrong way round then you end up with Monero which is why you're having to cite 3rd-party backed trusted monetary media in your defence).
1746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 25, 2017, 11:48:14 PM

If the sender doesn't, one can assume he didn't send the coins.

That doesn't exactly help you very much.

The idea of a transparent blockchain is to deter such conflicts in the first place since any party making a claim to have altered the blockchain state will have that claim arbitrated on by the entire userbase, not just by me.

Therefore, Poloniex can make any claim they like as to what state change they've made and that claim is instantly testable, not just by keyholders but by non keyholders also. Furthermore, that applies not only to the positive case but the negative (absence of state change) as well - no 'assumptions' needed.

Encrypted blockchains are designed to keep everyone else out of the loop except the sender and receiver. Thats what makes them ok as an encrypted messaging system but valueless as a monetary asset in their own right (an unbacked one at least) since bearer tokens don't distinguish ownership from possession. The encryption is therefore redundant and only serves to obscure (and potentially corrupt) their authenticity as you've already illustrated by demonstrating that the co-operation of 3rd parties (keyholders) is required to fully verify that a claimed state change did in fact occur.
1747  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 25, 2017, 11:19:37 PM

You can force your counterparty to disclose his prove that he has sent the money.

Nice. A Cryptocurrency who's blockchain state can only be verified through recourse to third parties.

Good luck with that Wink
1748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 25, 2017, 02:24:56 PM

Dashman upgrades Sentinel also.  It took about 5 minutes to upgrade my masternodes to the latest version.

+1 Dashman is one of the most awsome additions to this ecosystem. I only discovered it recently as well. Another plus for Dash's monetary design and placing monetary priorities at the forefront:

Running a node in Bitcoin: Boring as sh*, nobody wants to do it.
Running a node in Litecoin: Boring as sh*, nobody wants to do it.
Running a node in Monero: Boring as sh*, nobody wants to do it.
Running a node in Dash: Technically interesting, socially engaging and economically profitable.....people are trampling over each other to do it Wink

1749  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 25, 2017, 01:49:29 AM

What a monumental triumph of Dash's marketing over other coins' technology.

Hey, you're doing yourself down there.

Nobody puts more effort into 'marketing' Dash than you Wink
1750  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH pumped, anyone made some money? on: February 24, 2017, 11:48:36 PM

Excellent cross section of views.
1751  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 24, 2017, 05:49:41 PM

Smoothie, whwere are you?

Changing his underpants hopefully.

(Not posted inline to spare those with a sensitive disposition to blood & guts).
1752  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 24, 2017, 01:53:30 PM


1753  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 24, 2017, 01:44:48 PM

It was on the cards for anyone who cared to look.


1754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Monero on: February 24, 2017, 11:39:28 AM

So the only potential liar in this case is the receiver of funds (who knows he's lying), and he's lying to a particular audience.

The sender can prove to this audience that the payment took place (and has to sacrifice anonymity for this transaction in that case).

You should become an architect. With such elaborate philosophical meanderings I'm sure you could successfully argue that since "most buildings are rectangular" therefore "most rectangular structures will stand up".  Wink

(It'll also be easier for you than trying to convince anyone who understands money and 'audits').
1755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 24, 2017, 01:00:40 AM

No one is partnering with source code, Dickardo. It's always people making things happen.

I think you're being a bit hard on the trainspotter community there MC. You should realise it's more fun to waste time on polo trollbox than attempt anything as boringly serious as 'partnerships' in the open source world.

(Unless it's partnerships with doting monetary analysts that is Wink ).


1756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 23, 2017, 10:00:57 PM

Of course anything can change if you have consensus, but that becomes harder and harder to do over time with a successful currency.  The unobtanium coin project has 1 coin.  The 42coin project has 42

Great post !

That is one of the best commentaries you have ever made.

"anything can change if you have consensus" and I would only add that markets then put a price tag on that 'consensus'. That's the beauty of diversity - you can do what the h* you want and markets will price it all in because markets always have options.
1757  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 23, 2017, 04:44:14 PM

And it's not Monero's fault that those AB users don't know how to use it....that guys an idiot or a lier either way he's not worth my time.

Are you serious ?

This has nothing to do with 'faulty users'. By any satisfactory auditory definition, a transaction is successful when one address balance has been depleted and another credited. (I realise there are other ‘geeky’ definitions that involve transaction IDs but thats not what matters to users and it's not what would matter to any self respecting professional auditor who had to endorse the value of an address balance as a whole rather than a collection of 'discretely verified TX ID's').

In the abscence of a trusted 3rd party arbitor, you therefore need to see the movements at both address balances. The sending and receiving.

Furthermore, the parties that need to see it are:

1. The sending participating party (to verify they’re liability is cancelled)
2. The receiving participating party (for obvious reasons)
3. Non-participating keyholders (because they are exposed to the value of the blockchain based asset and have an interest in the public confidence of the blockchain integrity)
4. Non-participating, non-keyholders (because they are expected to supply goods, services and other currencies in support of your blockchain asset's exchange rate).

You would not want to eat a piece of fruit out of a bowl of rotten apples, even if one of them looked ok. In Bitcoin (and Dash for that matter), everyone sees the whole fruitbowl and everyone has access to the same information without condition or recourse to a third party.

The reason Bitcoin’s blockchain is anonymous but transparent is because there IS no 3rd party arbitor to resolve disputes. Blockchain transparency therefore makes the asset resistant to confidence attacks through rumour, dispute, aspersion and theft. It also gives transacting parties huge protection by supporting the interests of veracity in anecdotal accounts of failed transfers, whether they be due to mis-addressed funds, lack of confirmations, deception, hacks or otherwise.

The problem with the Cryptonote approach (who’s original conception was intended to support trusted party backed ‘credit money’ anyway b.t.w.) is that the participating parties are *on their own* mate. Nobody can see a thing and they’re each dependent on the other’s co-operation for verifying the transaction. If Poloniex say my deposit ‘went through’ and no funds turn up and don’t supply me a TXID or viewkey I’m stuffed. Nor do I have recourse to “the rest of the world”. Take a look at the last 6 years of Bitcoin forums. They’re littered with discussions about addresses, transactions where something went, where it didn’t go.

Thats what gives a blockchain confidence and confidence is what supports its value. If all you have is one end of the transaction or a poxy TXID that you have to beg for, then you’ve a recipe for catastrophe. A while back I said that encryption was the "cancer of cryptocurrency". I didn’t mean that from the point of view of technical failure, I meant it from the perspective that ANY kind of obfuscation in an unbacked asset is corrosive to confidence and it’s only a matter of time before all it’s good for is a temporary payment rail thats valueless.

The reason these coins have no future isn’t because they don’t have good tech. It’s because ‘encrypting stuff’ is dirt cheap these days and doesn’t add any value. (Sticking a gold bar or a diamond in a safe might cost you a small premium, but the price of the safe, not the price of the gold).

On the contrary, when it comes to cryptocurrency, “encrypting stuff” positively detracts form its potential value because we’re talking about a bearer token which draws its worth from authenticity, not obscurity.

How much evidence of that do you need ? If not the above posts (which will be the tip of the Iceberg if people start using it in earnest), try this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg17896089#msg17896089
1758  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 23, 2017, 04:10:55 PM

Quote
The viewkey is only available to the sender. It's the receiver that wants the "proof".
No it's not.

In a Monero transaction, the viewkey is only available to the sender, not the receiver.
1759  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 23, 2017, 03:30:26 PM

Users have the option to prove an XMR tx happened using a view key.

No they don't.

The viewkey is only available to the sender. It's the receiver that wants the "proof".
1760  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 22, 2017, 05:40:40 PM

family friendly viewing !?
Shocked  Shocked

Well some aspects of that was'nt quite what I had in mind but in general...yeah Wink
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