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17781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [Awesome Miner] - Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 200000 miners on: February 06, 2019, 04:22:39 AM
Okay I am just exploring my awesome miner  20 unit license premium I believe  cost me 170 usd.

I activated cloud service  and  I seem  to have an issue  with my next step.

Pc 1 has window 10  and I loaded  awesome miner to it. Along with the 20 unit license  I want this unit to stay in my home.

Pc 2 has windows 7   and I loaded awesome miner to it and up pops 2 unit free plan.  as I understand this  I can have up to 4 pc's on 1 license.

I can not seem to get this set up correct.

Tomorrow I drive to my onsite location  that has 53  miners.  I want to bring the windows 7 pc up there and load 20 of the 53 units to it.  come home and use my windows 10 pc at my house  to control  the 20 units via cloud.

I signed up for cloud trial today.  but I think this is not correct.

why can't i get both pc's to say they are on the same license ?

What type of miners are you going to be setting up on your 53 Miner site?

if they are GPU rigs, you don't need a remote AM host at all
if they are ASICs (I have no experience with them, own none), supposedly you can setup some gateway/router VPN and still monitor them at your home site. OR easier, setup TeamViewer (or similar) on your Win7 Machine and AM host on it. take Win7 computer to site, and let it manage miners on site, and you can monitor via TeamViewer remotely.

I was looking to avoid all that.  I had a 20 unit license with awesome miner. never used it.

this will be a lot of asic antminers.

So I don't mind using the license And paying patrick for the cloud service. this should be a simple thing to setup.  the website says I can load awesome miner onto as many as 4 pcs.
17782  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [Awesome Miner] - Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 200000 miners on: February 06, 2019, 03:35:15 AM
Okay I am just exploring my awesome miner  20 unit license premium I believe  cost me 170 usd.

I activated cloud service  and  I seem  to have an issue  with my next step.

Pc 1 has window 10  and I loaded  awesome miner to it. Along with the 20 unit license  I want this unit to stay in my home.

Pc 2 has windows 7   and I loaded awesome miner to it and up pops 2 unit free plan.  as I understand this  I can have up to 4 pc's on 1 license.

I can not seem to get this set up correct.

Tomorrow I drive to my onsite location  that has 53  miners.  I want to bring the windows 7 pc up there and load 20 of the 53 units to it.  come home and use my windows 10 pc at my house  to control  the 20 units via cloud.

I signed up for cloud trial today.  but I think this is not correct.

why can't i get both pc's to say they are on the same license ?
17783  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]UltraMiner FPGA is Live on Indiegogo! on: February 05, 2019, 11:05:52 PM
just got a pm

here it is in its entirety .

I normally keep pm's private but this is an exception> I did a screen shot to keep it not doctored.
I have tested a sample of  the older gear and I am willing to try and help with this one.
First testing a sample and second trying some kind of escrow setup. If all goes well.

I will not be screenshotting  every single pm or email for clarity but I always try to be as transparent as I can be.

FPGA's for the most part have had issues coming to market

we all know the squirrel acorn mess
and there was another scammer out there.

So lets see if we can do this better then they did.


17784  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool US/DE/CN on: February 05, 2019, 05:14:42 PM
I was talking more about everyone in CN and mid west but yes imagine it will be a shit show around Portland.

62 f here in New Jersey  I am heading out to Belmar beach to talk a long walk on the boardwalk with the wife.

going to switch the s15 to this pool
17785  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain will be releasing S15 and T15 on 8/11/2018 on: February 05, 2019, 04:34:31 PM
So running these on 240v is a bad idea?

One guy had two psu fails.

ConnerM

He was doing just over 240 volts.



@Phil, since you opened the regulator to look at it, does it use relays to change taps or is it solid-state (SCR's/Triacs)?
Long ago I tried a el-cheapo regulator like this one and found it unusable because of too-small transformer and the relay switching times. Every time it would make an adjustment the momentary v drop as the relays switched would cause the miner to go offline. My solution was to use a programmable dual-conversion UPS like the TrippLite SU6000RT4UHV—6kVA that is always on-line and has zero transfer time. It's in/out eff is pretty good at a measured 97%.

Ah this is complicated but here goes. I am color blind so I never was able to do formal training in electronics.  But I have a decent knowledge of parts and gear.  They took one leg of the 240 in and run it directly to the outlets.  So if you have a hot 240 like I do one leg is not altered at all.

The other leg goes into a torrid transformer a 110 to 100 volt.

So this means a 122 leg goes in and it is not touched.
The other 122 jet goes in and is dropped by the transformer to 100
It then feeds into some relays and parts that drop to 98 and the 98 plus 122 = 220.

So the legs are not even but they sum close to 220 vs 238-243
And only one leg runs into the transformer.

Also they lift the ground which is not exactly how I would do it.

I cut the two prong plug 🔌  and put a three prong plug. I still lifted ground but I think I will add back ground.

The design does allow for a lessor transformer .  But looking at wires gauge and other parts I think it won’t do two units.

Since only one s15 user has had the psu burn (two of 15 to be exact) .  Maybe it was just a couple of shitty psu's. Meaning these regulators are not needed at all.
17786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: February 05, 2019, 02:47:24 PM
good question.
this is me below

http://solo-bci.altpool.pro/workers/iG5mxRMZErtXwReBaEvpYam7PQStwgK5hR

I mostly use 1080ti

I cannot believe that you are still mining this BCI shit.
I know you are mining Grin as well, but ffs brother, if you want more BCI, then buy some.
BCI is nowhere to be found on mining profitability lists.

#

I am not too technical on the details but what is the deal exactly with ProgPOW? It seems that it will level the field with ASICs and GPUs however the brand of GPU seems to play a factor.

It seems that Nvidia performs much better than AMD, and is the reason for this that Nvidia generally costs more and since it costs more they want to make it more fair in that regards.

For example, say you can buy 2 AMDs for the price of 1 Nvidia. The 1 Nvidia will perform at the exact same speed as the 2 AMDs combined. Is this the point they are going for or is it just the way that the current miners are optimized?

It is what the current miners are optimized in.
One year ago, AMD was ahead of NVDIA on the GPU race.
Now things have shifted a bit towards NVDIA favor. Their difference in performance is roughly 1/3 regardless of the coin.
New AMD 16 GB is out. Wink

I was vocal against BCI and then their community attacked my video & channel lol

I'm really curious as to what you see in them Phil, I am surprised to see you throw all your weight behind a project -- especially BCI


Also a side note, any good how to mine (x) coin guides you've read recently -- I'm trying to create more written content and want some stuff to compare to
I suppose it's the appeal of PoW+PoS. You not only accumulate them by mining, you get some extra interest on top. The more you have, the more you stake too.

Unfortunately it's not helping much to get 5-10% annual interest when the price of the coin gets smacked down 80% over the course of 6 months...

I'm a sucker for Veil (for the same reasons). I'm hoping that a) the technology is better which might b) keep the price higher and c) increase my staking reward significantly.

Thing is, most altcoins are shitcoins...took me a while to realize that, but very few are the coins that make sense and are worth holding. Almost every single project has a point in their "life" where they are suspected of being a scam. Haven (XHV) is a very good example of this. You really can't trust anyone.

That said, I've been in the mining game for 3 years now.

About 3 months ago, as I was basically just burning through electricity, I decided it was time to do something about it. I haven't sold any of my gear, most of it has paid itself off. Some of my 470s are 3 years old already, they still work.

I'm lucky enough to have 20x 300W solar panels on my roof with an inverted that has a network port. So I developed my own "smart mining cave". Basically I have a php script running on a virtual linux machine that fetches the output of my array and depending on how much I'm producing, it will start up my rigs in sequence (lowest to highest wattage). Using some zwave plugs, I can remotely turn a rig on by calling a REST API URL on my openhab box where the zwave controller is hooked up (rigs are set to start on power loss so I just switch the switch off and back on). To shut them down properly, I simply use a "shutdown -s -f -t 30" command using nsclient and nrpe.

Whole thing has a simple web dashboard where I can turn on/off the script when I want it not to manage my rigs.

Next thing I'll add is probably a way to change the miner/coin remotely on my rigs as at the moment I need to do it manually.

Been running great for the past 2-3 months, I exclusively mine on solar power. I mine less coins but its basically only profit. The only limit I have is that I can produce at max about 4.5kW on a good summer day, not enough to start up all my 8 rigs. Will probably expand my solar array this year or the next.

   This is the future for smaller miners.  Not hobby miners but smaller miners.
You are doing well this way.
  I like it  if you are USA based  maybe you buysolar and myself could have a long discussion to help each other. He may get panels at a better price then you can.  Your software looks like it could help us.
 I am going up to the new larger 300kwatt build out this weds.  I will post photos here.

@ vosk BCI is a shit coin  the entire net work is 10.11gh  I am at 210mh or 1/50 of the network
I get 150 to 200 coins each week at very low cost.  yeah coins are 20 cents  but the upside for me is huge.  I can mine them for a year and get 8000-10000 coins at about 10 cents each.  so I spend 1000 in power for the year.  if coins have 1 spike  I  score.  my downside is they crash and delist. So I lose 1000 in power.  I also hodl the grin.

But my money maker is the big farm up in clifton.  that is BTC + LTC
17787  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain will be releasing S15 and T15 on 8/11/2018 on: February 05, 2019, 02:31:59 PM
I did test it  and it appears to cost 1.5%  in power. About 25 watts at high speed.

 also took it apart to figure if it really is 5000 va and 22.7 amps constant run.

I estimate it will do 1 unit at 1550 watts 24/7/365  with zero issues.
I don't think it can do 2 units at 3100 watts. 24/7/365
I think  the torrid transformer will get too hot.
I also think the power cord is  14 gauge  not 12 gauge.
So  for 1 unit in a garage it is okay it should protect the gear and last  but it won't last doing the 2 units it is rated for.

It is now on sale on ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Norstar-5000-Watt-Step-UP-and-Down-Voltatge-Regulator-Transformer-Converter/332955089461?

I bid 180 offer he took it.
and ebay is giving ebucks 10%  so 180 -18 = 162  and my paypal gives 2 % so 162 -3 = 159

for 159  it will give me some piece of mind.  but  if you have  10 or 20   s15's this costs too much.
17788  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor on: February 05, 2019, 01:25:08 AM
Hi - Im new to the mining pool. I have some questions about the payouts. I was wondering when they occur and if there is a curl command to send the DGM rewards. Thank you.

this is a low hash long waiting time pool

we can go longer then a year without a block.

last block was   2017-09-11 07:58   that is 16 or 17 months ago

no block no payments.


all of 2018 and no blocks

Id   Block   Time   Duration   
1279   484629   2017-09-11 07:58   
1278   474762   2017-07-08 07:59      
1277   454049   2017-02-21 15:31     2017 only 5 blocks
1276   454022   2017-02-21 10:45   
1275   453846   2017-02-20 04:55

   
1274   443595   2016-12-15 17:08   
1273   431996   2016-09-29 00:13   2016 only 4 blocks
1272   405121   2016-03-31 13:53   
1271   395082   2016-01-26 06:05   
17789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: February 04, 2019, 09:24:54 PM
good question.
this is me below

http://solo-bci.altpool.pro/workers/iG5mxRMZErtXwReBaEvpYam7PQStwgK5hR

I mostly use 1080ti

I cannot believe that you are still mining this BCI shit.
I know you are mining Grin as well, but ffs brother, if you want more BCI, then buy some.
BCI is nowhere to be found on mining profitability lists.

#

I am not too technical on the details but what is the deal exactly with ProgPOW? It seems that it will level the field with ASICs and GPUs however the brand of GPU seems to play a factor.

It seems that Nvidia performs much better than AMD, and is the reason for this that Nvidia generally costs more and since it costs more they want to make it more fair in that regards.

For example, say you can buy 2 AMDs for the price of 1 Nvidia. The 1 Nvidia will perform at the exact same speed as the 2 AMDs combined. Is this the point they are going for or is it just the way that the current miners are optimized?

It is what the current miners are optimized in.
One year ago, AMD was ahead of NVDIA on the GPU race.
Now things have shifted a bit towards NVDIA favor. Their difference in performance is roughly 1/3 regardless of the coin.
New AMD 16 GB is out. Wink

I was vocal against BCI and then their community attacked my video & channel lol

I'm really curious as to what you see in them Phil, I am surprised to see you throw all your weight behind a project -- especially BCI


Also a side note, any good how to mine (x) coin guides you've read recently -- I'm trying to create more written content and want some stuff to compare to
I suppose it's the appeal of PoW+PoS. You not only accumulate them by mining, you get some extra interest on top. The more you have, the more you stake too.

Unfortunately it's not helping much to get 5-10% annual interest when the price of the coin gets smacked down 80% over the course of 6 months...

I'm a sucker for Veil (for the same reasons). I'm hoping that a) the technology is better which might b) keep the price higher and c) increase my staking reward significantly.

which is why mining them with paid off gear and a funky power deal works.

mining them with new gear and paying 10 cents  for power does not work

buying them does not work.

my exposure to fiat loss is small  since it is only with cheap solar deal power for most of them getting mined.

my upside is silly good.  I have close to six thousand coins of BCI  mined cheaply on paid off gear.  by years end I could be pushing 10,000 maybe 12,000 coins.  if they are 20 cents like they are today oh well if they are 1 dollar it is a good year.
if they are 2 dollars it is a very good year
if they are 3 dollars it would be a great year.
17790  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: (Review/Guide) WhatsMiner M10 33.0 Th/s, 2145W Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner on: February 04, 2019, 09:10:58 PM
Yea, sad to see the demand hit a cliff for these. T15 in LPM is the best purchase now imo. So I agree with philip, per usual.

Only bulk will bring the cost of these down substantially enough to make tariffs worth it.

Yeah it is tough for me.  I did the build out with a mix of gear.

530th   btc
   7mh  ltc

1  s15          top speed   57 watts a th
19 s9's  set these at mid speed90 watts a th
6  m10's set these at top speed 70 watts a th
1 t2turbo24 eco speed 82 watts a th
1 a921        -1 speed 95 watts a th
2 a721        -1 speed 140 watts a th     so this is 2000 watts
4 s7ln           reg speed 250 watts a th  this is 2800 watts

14 L3+   these are on a low watt program

so replacement of the bold gear will happen and 2 m10's would do the trick

some power  but th would go from 20th to 63th
17791  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Announcing the WhatsMiner M10S 44TH @ 60W/TH or 55TH @ 65W/TH SHA-256 16nm Miner on: February 04, 2019, 09:00:44 PM
How is this unconfirmed when a few posts ago I shared my numbers with the actual M10S including screenshots and power draw....?

To all fanatic26 is known to be reliable guy with numbers.
17792  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: (Review/Guide) Antminer S15 27.0 Th/s, 1600 W Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner on: February 04, 2019, 05:10:02 PM
Any read on db levels? Everything is soo quiet now with LPM and winter here.

S15 has the edge in performance wise but with cheap power and tariffs into the US the m10 looks about $500 less than the s15. I would agree though, hard to choose. Long term Bitmain might have another good unit and I could probably get three of these on my 30A 240 lines. Maybe four?

Look at the two videos I did.

The s15 is not bad with some sound proofing.

Maybe better then the m10.

As for what it is worth.

I would be willing to pay 💰 1000 usd for the s15

I would be will to pay 💰 875 usd for the m10.

Both the m10 and the s15 cost more new shipped to USA.

S15 = 1250- 65 = 1185 x 1.276 =  1512 + 105 = 1617 new shipped to my house.

M10 = 850 -15 = 835 x 1.276 =  1065 + 91 = 1156 new shipped to my house.   the last ones I purchased were 799  under the 800 and no trump tax.

so the price jump from 799 to 850    now means   875 new shipped to my house is  1156

even at 1156  I think the m10  for a usa buyer is better then the s15.

the t15  may be the best to buy now as it is 710-65 = 745 + 100 = 845 no trump tax.

so
 t15 at 845
 s15 at 1617
 m10 at 1156

I would lean to the t15.  but actually  that is only true if I had to my a btc miner today.

and I won't since  I would feel over charged.
17793  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: February 04, 2019, 01:49:27 PM
I am not too technical on the details but what is the deal exactly with ProgPOW? It seems that it will level the field with ASICs and GPUs however the brand of GPU seems to play a factor.

It seems that Nvidia performs much better than AMD, and is the reason for this that Nvidia generally costs more and since it costs more they want to make it more fair in that regards.

For example, say you can buy 2 AMDs for the price of 1 Nvidia. The 1 Nvidia will perform at the exact same speed as the 2 AMDs combined. Is this the point they are going for or is it just the way that the current miners are optimized?

No, mining currently has no effect on video card prices. That was like 6-18 months ago. Their prices today has more to do with gaming. With that said Nvidia cards do beat out AMD when it comes to algorithms like progpow and mimblewimble. I think the only algorithms where AMD flat out beats NVIDIA are all the cryptonight variants.

Anyways its very cheap now if you want to get into mining, but of course, thats because there's no money to be made. The used market is flooded with people selling their mining equipment. And if you buy new you could probably get some good deals.

With that said, spend at your own risk. Crypto doesn't look like it will be going up anytime soon. I'm still here since mining heats up the house pretty nicely during the winter. But once it hits April or May I will have to downsize the farm quite a bit.

this is the key for mining.  How much power cost is.

Was not true in December 2017  key was how much gear you could run .

In the garage
I have :
1 apollo =130 watts
some sidehack usb sticks = 30 watts
some moonlander sticks = 100 watts
4 vegas = 800
1 rx 580 =140
2 rtx 2070 = 140
1 threadripper = 90
2x ryzen 2700's = 140

total 1570 watts  lets bump to  1600  or 1.6 x 24 x 31 = 1190 kwatts  lets bump to 1200 kwatts x 13 cents = 156 in power

heat is worth 20 percent so 31 off I spend 125 in power in my home.
I have 3 s-9s  hosted for a total of 130  a month

so fiat cost in power for paid off gear = 225  the 3 s-9's earn 185  so net loss would be 40 a month if  the bci and the ltc/doge and the grin  were zero.

 I mostly mine bci  in the garage say 150 a month at 20 cents = 30

so -40 + 30  = -10

the grin is 6 a week = +24 so +14

the usb sticks are solo pools
the apollo is solo pool  in 15 months I hit a block of doge which is a dollar a month.  so my garage mining makes  about 15 a month.

but the solar deals  are 12 1080ti's  at zero fiat ½ coins  so that is 450 bci  and 16 grin monthly  of which  ½ are mine

so 450 x 20 cent = 90 for the bci
16 x 5bucks = 80 for the grin

I net 170  ½ is mine = 85 a month  so 85 + 15 = 100 a month

That does not count the :

530th BTC
7gh    LTC

Solar project in Clifton

that is ½ coins  for the warehouse owner  ½ coins to be split with buysolar and I

so I have  530/2 = 265/2 = 132 th free btc mining   about 600 usd a month
I have        7/2  =  3.5/2 =  1.75 gh free  ltc mining about 250 usd a month

thats  850 monthly profit

So I am 950  a month round down for travel  to clifton  I am 900  a month

I cash some btc and some ltc
I hodl BCI
I hodl GRIN

I could do this  for a long time  and mostly break even on fiat while gaining  coins.

1 bull run and nice score
Stays the same for a year  I would coin  900 x 12 = 10800 of which  I would keep  5000 of that in coin and cash 5800 out in profit.

So I have a plan for all of 2019.

I also  take the 10,800 number and I round down to 8,000  of which I would pull 5,000 cash and keep 3,000 coin.

Thats worse case.  Since I am hodling all the bci and the grin if they drop 8000 is more realistic

If either BCI or GRIN take off  I am golden.

All of the above represents gear paid off from profits in 2017
BTW  2017  profits are not all gone,  but I Have reached the point of  no more expansion  from now till July.
17794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: February 04, 2019, 06:01:33 AM
I am not too technical on the details but what is the deal exactly with ProgPOW? It seems that it will level the field with ASICs and GPUs however the brand of GPU seems to play a factor.

It seems that Nvidia performs much better than AMD, and is the reason for this that Nvidia generally costs more and since it costs more they want to make it more fair in that regards.

For example, say you can buy 2 AMDs for the price of 1 Nvidia. The 1 Nvidia will perform at the exact same speed as the 2 AMDs combined. Is this the point they are going for or is it just the way that the current miners are optimized?

good question.
this is me below

http://solo-bci.altpool.pro/workers/iG5mxRMZErtXwReBaEvpYam7PQStwgK5hR

I mostly use 1080ti
17795  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: (Review/Guide) WhatsMiner M10 33.0 Th/s, 2145W Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner on: February 04, 2019, 03:15:26 AM
The funny thing is that the 31th model for the $750 does 33th for me usually 24/7, sometimes falls into a 32.8th range but still.  Lol so... yea

They should have left the m10 31th at 799 and killed the coupon it would have kept USA buyer under 800 and no trump tax.

The 33th should be dropped to 949 with a 25 dollar coupon. Or 924.

USA buyers would get the 31th  model.

Now

the s15 is a tax job 27.6% for USA
The m10 is a tax job 27.6% for USA
The t15 is no tax  and may be the best deal. 0% since it is under 800.
17796  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: (Review/Guide) Antminer S15 27.0 Th/s, 1600 W Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner on: February 04, 2019, 02:42:00 AM
Have a couple from me to mate,  Great review as always.

It is a good piece of gear.  Maybe just as good as the m10 now that both the m10 and the s15 both are subject to the 27.6% trump tax it is hard to pick which one to use.

The s15 with the soundproofing in my garage is quiet. I could use it all winter  in the garage.
17797  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Research shows it is hard to make money with bitcoin mining on: February 04, 2019, 02:32:19 AM
Sorry to interject, but every time I see the subject line of this thread pop up I can't help but chuckle and think "Research shows peanut butter is sticky" or "Research shows fire can be quite hot".

Water is quite wet except when it is hard and frozen.
17798  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Avalon 741 help on: February 03, 2019, 08:52:04 PM
OK thanks
thought someone had already done that on the b +

You would think so.  But I suspect they have a ton of rasp pi 3 in stock and did not bother writing a 3+

Don’t feel bad I did buy the 3+ for the 851 and had to order a 3😀

So you are not alone.
17799  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [30-400PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9%fee 3.9of10BTC giveaway 🐈 US,UK,JP,NYA,OR,DE,SG on: February 03, 2019, 08:05:51 PM
Last year or so luck has been brutal?  Luck for the last year (250 Block Luck) is 92.35% which is not too shabby no matter how you look at it.  It's well within the expected range for that time frame.

It seems proclamations about the death of the KanoPool have been greatly exaggerated.

I can only say this 92.35 translates to 9235 usd instead of 10000 usd

If you mine at a pps pool and are paid 98%

You get 9800 usd.

My monthly numbers are such that  I pay 4500 for power and I collect 4900 in coins.

A big profit of 400 a month.

If I had been at Kano the last year

I would have paid 4500 and collected 4617 a month.  A smaller 117 profit each month.
With many months in the negative.

So a lot of miners in the tight profit era we are in are forced to go pps+ vs a 5n like Kano.

17800  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [30-400PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9%fee 3.9of10BTC giveaway 🐈 US,UK,JP,NYA,OR,DE,SG on: February 03, 2019, 07:34:51 PM
I think you may be looking at it a little skewed D57.

Anyone over 100% would only be relation to the luck of the block. They were still only paid for the shares they submitted, dame as everyone else.

Really the list would just be of people who stayed for the good luck days and abandoned during low luck periods. So sub 100% vs anything over 100%.

Which is more inline with pool hoppers.

Here though you can't swoop in at say 120% and hope to score a large chunk of reward the 5nd levels things out that way.


Being priced out of the market is way different. We know you'd be here if you could. In full force that is. I saw you  have a couple little soldiers marching for you again

I left about a year ago.  When I left I had averaged about 102% luck. The two years + I mined here.

The last year or so luck has been brutal.
I suspect the pool has suffered with holding tactics on more then one occasion.
A large wealthy farm can do that to smaller pools.
I do believe it has happened here.  Which is why pool has had long dry speeds of luck.
Prior to this pool I mined at bitminter and I think he was attacked by withholders.
I also mined at btc guild which was attacked by witholders.
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