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1781  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 15, 2022, 01:02:23 AM
For Morocco to be able to play in the semifinals is more than enough, so they don't feel disappointed by the defeat to France. What they faced was also the defending champion team. Even so, Morocco can play well. Even France was overwhelmed by the attacks carried out by Moroccan players. It's something extraordinary that Moroccan players do.

Yeah!
Even losing today, we all have to agree that the Morocco team was the great "sensation" of the 2022 World Cup, it reached the semifinals of the World Cup in Qatar with all due respect and merits.

He had an undefeated campaign in the previous five games, but unfortunately (yes, I was rooting for her) even though she had a good match today, she ended up losing for the first time in the competition and was eliminated. France suffered.... despite having scored the first goal in just 4 minutes, it was difficult to hold the score, I was actually rooting and believing in a draw even after the first goal and who knows a comeback or decision on penalties.

I expected France to dominate the game after the first goal, but that's not what happened, as Morocco went on the attack and just didn't score a goal because Lloris, the defenders and the post prevented the African team.
Only at the end of the game did the French expand in order to be able to "breathe" better.

Morocco has done its duty, it deserves all our recognition and respect!
1782  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is your local game includes in online casino ? on: December 15, 2022, 12:48:31 AM
Can this game be included in a casino platform ? Do you have a local game in your country and what is the name ? How will you feel if you see it in an online casino,will you be happy to play it or will prefer playing something new ?

In Brazil there is the game of the jaguar ("Jogo da Onça" in Brazilian) which is a game originating from indigenous peoples that is usually played on the ground, on the ground and the pieces can be simple stones where one of the pieces represents the jaguar and the another 14 (which need to be equal to each other) represent the dogs.

This is a strategy game for only two players, where one of them will act as a jaguar and have the objective of capturing the opponent's pieces, similar to the game of Checkers.

The other player acts with the dogs and aims to corner the jaguar and leave it unable to move.

In fact this was the only typical game from my country that I could remember, I'm not sure if it could attract any audience on an online betting site, even because it's a very old game, few people know it, much less who play in casinos.

1783  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: FTX entra com pedido de falência on: December 14, 2022, 01:28:43 AM
Eita!

SBF, o famoso ex-CEO da FTX, foi preso pelas autoriades das Bahamas !! Shocked

A nota ainda esclarece que os Estados Unidos está submetendo acusações criminais e provavelmente vai pedir a sua extradição!!

"Infelizmente" vai ser impossível confiscar a fortuna que ele deve ter guardado em Bitcoin.
Vão conseguir levar só a liberdade dele para a prisão.

Vocês falam em regalias, mas como será possível que ele consiga dinheiro para bancar por isso? Eu duvido que ele tenha acesso fácil à computador liberado para utilizar a internet e movimentar suas criptos com facilidade. Confiar essa missão à alguém? Eu sinceramente não sei se passaria as keys de minha wallet nem para minha mãe caso tivesse uma pequena fortuna Tongue

Enfim... mais um passo rumo à justiça, ele foi burro em ter escolhido as Bhamas, deveria ter vindo para o Brasil se a intenção era curtir uma boa praia e andar na rua sem ter medo de ser preso e condenado ou extraditado.
1784  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Assinatura do primeiro endereço de BTC revela identidade do satoshi! on: December 14, 2022, 01:23:21 AM
Segundo o Blockchair.com, o endereço em causa - 1Q2TWHE3GMdB6BZKafqwxXtWAWgFt5Jvm3 - enviou ~ 0.044 BTC a 6 de Setembro de 2017[1]. Apesar de o endereço estar associado ao Hal Finney, o mesmo faleceu em 2014[2]... Não existe a possibilidade de alguém ter obtido as chaves privadas do Hal e ter feito essa assinatura? Abertura total: Leio sempre tudo o que vem do Martin Shkreli com um grande viés pois ele teve várias atitudes duvidosas ao longo dos últimos anos[3] (desde inflacionar o preço de um medicamento 5,500 % após a compra da empresa e security fraud).

Também devo dizer que custa-me muito a acreditar que o Satoshi, sendo uma pessoa que prezava tanto pelo anonimato (como podemos ver no seu trabalho e posts), fosse assinar logo a primeira transacção com o nome dele...

Cacildis, eu estava pensando a mesma coisa....
De tantas pessoas que poderiam ter a honra de serem Satoshi, essa é uma das únicas que eu esperaria que fossem ele.

Ainda, para fortalecer a tese de que isso realmente seja uma assinatura recente, eu questiono:
Por, nos primórdios do Bitcoin em que ele não valia "nada" alguém faria um teste enviando "míseros " 0.044BTC? Seria muito mais plausível se ele enviasse 4.400 BTC, concordam?

Por acaso Paul Leoux já se pronunciou a respeito? Duvido muito... ele deve estar curtindo os momentos de fama em silêncio.
1785  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Brasileirão 2023 - Brazilian Championship Serie A on: December 14, 2022, 01:17:19 AM
Today, Flamengo defined who will be their coach for 2023... Vitor Perreira, who was already a coach at Corinthians this year (2022).

Unfortunately, Perreira left Corinthians "stained" due to some personal problems that made him leave the previous team, but... he doesn't let him be a great leader, because in Portugal he has already led his teams to win the league twice and a Super Cup , let's see how he does in Flamengo.

Another curiosity... I found out that this year we have 10 foreign coaches, if I'm not mistaken this is a record:

Palmeiras - Abel Ferreira (PORTUGAL)
Flamengo - Vítor Pereira (PORTUGAL)
Botafogo - Luís Castro (PORTUGAL)
Bahia - Renato Paiva (PORTUGAL)
Coritiba - António Oliveira (PORTUGAL)
Red Bull Bragantino - Pedro Caixinha (PORTUGAL)
Cuiabá - Ivo Vieira (PORTUGAL)
Fortaleza - Juan Pablo Vojvoda (ARGENTINA)
Atlético-MG - Eduardo Coudet (ARGENTINA)
Cruzeiro - Paulo Pezzolano (URUGUAI)
1786  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: turned gambler after investing in BTC or investor turned gambler? on: December 14, 2022, 12:56:21 AM
This is just a question got from someone I hangout with yesterday when I introduced her to investing in BTC. She is 50+ but managed a busy small hotel and has a son who had been playing games on the computer all the time. After some discussion, I advised her to just remind the son not to gamble the BTC.

So she asked how I end up gambling online. I'm not totally a gambler at all, I started investing and somehow stray as I'm trying to win some.
She began to worry since her son is on the computer all the time and might gamble upon learning the BTC can be gambled.

Which one has a high possibility of happening, a gamer eventually becomes a gambler or an investor turns into a gambler?
But first, answer the poll which are you. Are you a gambler that become an investor or an investor that turned into a gambler?

For sure, it is very unlikely that a player will become an investor.

First, because a player who earns a lot of money with the game (which is rare), is usually addicted to the game and will hardly have time to do something else, such as managing a hotel.
And if he is like most people who lose more than they win, he will certainly never become an investor.

Already an investor, he can easily become a player, as he would find in games a form of entertainment for his tumultuous life, even his financial condition as an investor can be of great help to encourage him to play more and more believing that there is no risk of losing everything you own.

But I'm sure of one thing...
An investor with solid assets and lots of money, together with a gambling addict, is a combination that is unlikely to last long.

Either he will be an investor or he will be a player, I think it's impossible to be both simultaneously for a long time.
1787  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 14, 2022, 12:48:38 AM
Congratulations dear team Argentina.  Because Argentina made it to the final with a hundred tries.  However, Croatia could not make it to the final despite trying hard here.  Argentina lost 3-0 in 2018 but this time too Croatia lost by the same score.  However, there are some great players in Croatia's team, who have far more talent than Argentina's team.  However, Croatia also lost to France in 2018 and again in 2022 and lost to Argentina, but their foreheads are very miserable.

Argentina won the game against Croatia for very strong and evident reasons: First, they have Lionel Messi who is simply brilliant, an undisputed leader and who puts on a show in every match; Julián Álvarez, the great revelation of Argentine football who is still a "newbie" but who plays like a veteran; Enzo Fernández, who is capable of carrying out quite difficult missions, and one of them was to stop Luka Modric who is 16 years older than him.

And last, there is the wise choice of coach Lionel Scaloni, who has the talent to change the team according to his opponents and adversity in each match.
Scaloni had tested three different tactical formations and today he opted for something more "conservative", with the addition of another midfielder: instead of returning with Di María on the left wing, he used Rodrigo Paredes and, with that, neutralized the strongest sector from Croatia. A masterstroke that worked very well.

I'm Brazilian, Argentina's archenemy, but I recognize... they played very well. Congratulations Argentina
1788  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Proteja sua conta! Post seu endereço. on: December 12, 2022, 12:59:35 AM
EDIT: @sabotag3x não sei se foi você que fez esse print, mas se foi, riscou mal a seed... dá para ler as palavras que lá estão.   Roll Eyes

@sabotag3x não é noobie, tenho certeza que ele criou essa carteira apenas para demonstrar o procedimento.
O fato de riscar a seed, por mais que ainda seja possível ler ela deve ter dois motivos.

O primeiro e mais óbvio é para ninguém sair usando ela, por mais que se possa ler, dificulta um tiquinho.

A segunda, e que acredito que seja o motivo aqui é algo que merece a atenção de todos...

Jamais postem uma seed por aqui, pois isso vem de encontro à um problema que estamos tratando nesse tópico: "roubo de contas".
Se eu posto um endereço no fórum, acredita-se que somente eu tenha acesso à ele, se eu posto a seed junto, estou dando ao criminoso a chave para uma carteira que mais à frente alguém pode utilizar para tentar se passar por mim, o que é possível caso algum admin do fórum não ler todo o contexto do tópico ( oque também é muito provável em se tratando que a maioria não sabe ler em português).
1789  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Discussion Thread on: December 12, 2022, 12:53:07 AM
The worst error Portugal's coach made was not playing Ronaldo during the first half. How could you start the game without starting Ronaldo when you know full well how his presence will affect Morocco's defense

Ronaldo has given Portugal's national team his all. We are aware of his prior contributions to their victories. He's not at his best right now since he's receiving criticism from people all over the world.

His decision to finish his football career in this way is very tragic. The effect he had and the history he contributed to football will go on forever.

Unfortunately, something Cristiano Ronaldo has been doing a lot lately is sitting on the bench watching his team play.
Since this is a definitive match, why not put Ronaldo in the game from the start? I'm sure the player himself would like to do more for his country in the last cup he would participate in.
It would be much more understandable if Cristiano Ronaldo left midway through the second half, if necessary, either because of fatigue or because his team could be in a very comfortable winning situation.

But, this world cup has shown very impressive results, perhaps the divine destiny was to see Morocco qualifying, with or without Ronaldo on the field. We can't question something that didn't happen.

Now let's cheer for Morocco to defeat France and win that world title, they deserve it after reaching the semifinals defeating such great teams.
1790  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever tried Anti Martingale Strategy? on: December 12, 2022, 12:40:40 AM
In martingale, a gambler increases the bet size to double in the hope to recover the loss from the previous bet. I have tried it a few times & to be honest with you, I have never had a good return on my bets; I have lost most of the time.
On the other hand, the Anti martingale strategy is- to double the bet size when you are winning & halving the bet size when you are losing. In such a condition, when you are winning; you are doubling the size & you will lose from your winning. WEell, this strategy is more risky I guess though some have told it as less risky than martingale.
Have you ever tried ti? What's your opinion? Which one is more risky; Martingale or Anti Martingale?

The martingale strategy that tells you to double your bet every time you lose has a very clear purpose:

Every time you double the bet when you lose, you are guaranteeing that the moment you win, if you win at all, you will have managed to recover all the amount you lost in the previous bets and still stay in profit.

On the other hand, if you lower the amount when you lose, you will never be able to cover the losses, mainly because you will probably lose a lot more money than you win.

In my opinion, this is a bad strategy.

I like Martingale, but it needs to be played in conjunction with other strategies and risk management in order to be of any benefit to the player.

The best strategy is to know how to play wisely, managing your money and luck, without strictly following a "cake recipe".
1791  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Binance pode estar exigindo declaração de imposto de renda para alguns saques on: December 11, 2022, 01:13:01 AM
Eu já vi pediram os últimos 3 contra cheques para alugar um lugar.
Mas imposto de renda é um abuso, mesmo para alugar imóvel.

Pq no imposto de renda tem o seu patrimônio,  não sua renda. E vc vai pagar o aluguel com a renda, não com patrimônio

Eu estive vendo sobre esse caso, inclusive com imagens e de fato parece ser idôneo.

Porém, me parece que a Binance na verdade está dando diversas opções para o usuário e não exigindo que ele envie extrato da conta corrente, contra-cheque, declaração de IR, e tudo mais.

De fato isso seria um abuso, mas no caso de comprovação lícita dos ganhos, um simples extrato de conta-corrente ou contra-cheque deveriam ser o suficiente.

Mas, ainda é estranho o fato da binance ter enviado apenas uma nota padrão para o Livecoins sobre o ocorrido, pois sabem (ou deveriam) que esse é um grande meio de comunicação cripto no Brasil e que essa matéria vai fazer eles perderem muita credibilidade por aqui.

Como eu já disse, para saques de valores fiat, utilizem a Bitcointrade, diaante de tudo o que tem ocorrido me parece ser mais seguro utilizar uma corretora que opera 100% dentro das leis brasileiras e que tem uma excelente reputação e taxas bacanas.
1792  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Proteja sua conta! Post seu endereço. on: December 11, 2022, 01:06:55 AM
Alguém me ajuda aí fiz todos os passos já para assinar, acredito que consegui.

Mas dai voltei no tópico e vi que só pode usar endereço que começa com 1 Huh

Eu tô usando a carteira electrum 4.3.2 recomendada pelo post, ela que gerou esse endereço, que começa com bc1

bc1q6k4hynk8p3...

como faco pra arrumar isso ? tem como gerar endereços que começa com 1 la ?, ou posso usar esse dai mesmo

Quando vc for criar sua carteira na electrum (faca uma nova standard), escolha essa opção de endereços P2PKH (são os legacy, e começam com 1)

Para Os endereços segwit ainda não existe um padrão para verificar a assinatura.



Não precisa ter saldo para assinar a mensagem.

Seguinte,
Na real, qualquer endereço que você já tenha postado aqui no fórum pode ser utilizado para comprovar sua identidade no futuro.
Já vi relatos de galera que conseguiu recuperar contas até mesmo sem ter assinado mensagem alguma, apenas comprovou que era dono de tal carteira que foi utilizada antes do incidente para, por exemplo, participar de uma campanha de assinatura.

Assume-se, que quando alguém posta um endereço para receber criptos por qualquer que seja o motivo, apenas o dono tenha acesos à ela, então isso já seria mais que o suficiente para provar sua identidade.

Mas... obviamente não tiro o mérito de uma mensagem assinada, pois esse é um procedimento feito especialmente para o propósito de recuperar uma conta futuramente no caso de incidente. Eu só quis dizer é que o tipo de endereço não importa, desde que você ainda tenha a private-key dela no futuro e consiga assinar novamente uma mensagem ou então até mesmo fazer qualquer transferência afim de comprovar que você ainda é a mesma pessoa que no passado postou aquele endereço por aqui.
1793  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: ⚽ Torneio / Bolão para a Copa do Mundo 2022 ⚽ ATUALIZAÇÃO OITAVAS DE FINAL on: December 11, 2022, 12:57:56 AM
Sexta-feira 09/12 - 12h - Croácia vs Brasil --> Croácia
Sexta-feira 09/12 - 16h - Holanda vs Argentina --> Argentina
Sábado 10/12 - 12h - Marrocos vs Portugal --> Marrocos
Sábado 10/12 - 16h - Inglaterra vs França --> França

Cacildis lcharles123 Shocked tu acertou tudo?

Creio que você deva fazer apostas nos cassinos também e espero que tenha apostado nesses mesmos resultados, vai ter ganho uma baita grana só por apostar contra o Brasil.

Agora eu vou torcer por Marrocos, e isos vai refletir nas minhas próximas apostas.

Não só pelas apostas, mas também para podermos dizer que "pelo menos perdemos para o campeão mundial".
Mas falando sério... agora que já passou o baque da derrota, confesso que é muito bom ver um time africano indo tão longe.

Me lembro que houve muitas críticas à Fifa para aumentar a participação desse continente no campeonato, porque ali tem diversos times muito bons que só precisam de um espaço para mostrar do que são capaz.

Espero sinceramente que o Marrocos detone a Argentina.... qual brasileiro que não deseja isso? Cool

E continuo apostando em uma final maluca entre Croácia e Marrocos.
1794  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Proof Of Income Will This Pass on: December 11, 2022, 12:50:30 AM
Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.

Not just casinos, but I have also seen many exchanges require absurd documents in order to release players' money.

Strangely, they only ask for these documents when the player tries to withdraw, why?

If the casino suspects you're spending more money than you should, they should block deposits, not withdrawals, agree with me?

Blocking withdrawals always causes a bad impression, most online casinos that have an excellent reputation take great care with this, as no player tolerates an abusive practice of withholding player money under the pretense that they are just complying with KYC.

In any case, every casino has its own laws and way of validating the documents sent to it.
If the blocked amount is really important to you, send all the documents they ask you to do, as you will not have an easier alternative, unfortunately.
1795  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Using Bonus Buy or Not Using Bonus Buy? on: December 11, 2022, 12:45:18 AM
I have often played slot games at some trusted casinos these past few days. While playing, I often buy Bonus Buys and I do that in many slot games.

Which is the most profitable or generates the most profit between buying a Bonus Buy or playing normally without buying a Bonus Buy?

This made me curious because I tried it in several games such as Gate of Olympus, Mental, Fire in the Hole, Sword of Ares, Land of Zenith and others. And I see that buying Bonus Buy is more profitable. Is it really like that? What slot games often allow you to win more money by using Bonus Buy?

Note: Buying Bonus Buy allows us to win more money, while playing normally does not guarantee we can win some money.

My take on this is as follows...
The bonuses that casinos offer are to motivate the player to spend more money, as bonuses are always accompanied by some precondition:
A minimum amount of money, or a certain number of plays to qualify for the bonus, etc....

If the requirement for you to redeem the bonus is within your stipulated spending limit, take the bonus whenever it is offered to you, as these bonuses give you a greater chance of achieving a win.

However, if you need to contribute more money than expected to get the bonus, do not fall into this temptation, because even with the bonus it is statistically proven that you will probably lose everything, and then the feeling of defeat is much more evident, which can cause other problems.

In short... bonuses are always welcome, as long as they are used very carefully.
1796  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 Oscar Awards betting and discussions on: December 11, 2022, 12:39:51 AM
Brendan Fraser is the favorite over everyone for best actor? I am shocked hehehe.

I am too... because despite the long career he has already built in Hollywood, he has never been nominated for an Oscar for any of his work done so far. But he was well acclaimed by the public at the Venice Film Festival, which takes place today, so I believe he should be well nominated and who knows, maybe even take the statuette in 2023, we'll see!

I'm also betting big on Colin Farrell's feature film, he received the longest applause of the event so far: there were 13 uninterrupted minutes of applause, if I were there my hands would be red Tongue

Changing gender a bit, I also believe that Cate Blanchett is the main bet for the 2023 Oscar. She is already a veteran in this area and has already been nominated seven times, winning on two of those occasions. I believe it won't be a surprise to anyone if she manages to take the third statuette of her career, I'm betting big on that.
1797  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Gambing Halal or Haram According to Jewish Or Christian Faith? on: December 10, 2022, 04:25:29 PM
I know that this is very silly and religious question but I think that this should be Discussed.
According to me, As I am Muslim, Gambling is Haram and there are very reasons behind this. And also I do not much about another religions. But if someone has knowledge about that if Gambling is allowed or prohibited in Jewish or Christ Faith. And I think many people have many mind sets.
I do not want to hurt someone's feeling by talking about Religious Comments.

Brazil is a country of Christian majority, and the belief is that this is one of the main reasons why casinos are still banned there.

In fact, the Christian Bible does not say anything specifically about gambling, perhaps because it did not even exist at the time, however, it does say that we must be careful with our money and never be controlled by addiction. The bible also says that all money that is dishonestly earned is not pleasing to God.

The fact is that gambling is not a problem. There are many games of chance that can be played without using money, just for fun among friends or for some reason that is beneficial to someone or society (the church itself promotes games with real money).

The problem is in the intention that leads a person to play, because if it's for money:

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
1 Timothy 6:10


 Wink
1798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 10, 2022, 04:17:35 PM
how beautiful is this world cup? full of twists. for the moment Morocco is winning 1-0 who knows how long this result will last and who knows if they will be able to win this match! it would be a record for Morocco as they would become the first African nation to reach the semi-finals in a world cup

Now that Brazil lost too, I'm rooting for the most improbable and craziest final of all: Croatia and Morocco.
It's insane, I know, but seeing so many "favorite" teams lose to teams that we didn't even imagine would make it this far, I see that the dispute of the final between these two teams is not so unlikely asism to happen.

Morocco is currently beating Portugal, so this is no longer an unlikely scenario to happen.

Croatia managed to dominate the first half of the game and demonstrate superiority to Brazil, managed to hold the score in the second half. With a lot of determination, they tied in overtime and took the decision to penalties.

There are no more small teams in this world cup, anyone can lift this trophy.
1799  Economy / Gambling discussion / Brasileirão 2023 - Brazilian Championship Serie A on: December 10, 2022, 04:09:52 PM
Now that the dream of the six championship of Fifa has become more distant for Brazilians, it's time to start talking about the Brazilian championship 2023, after all, Brazilians are moved by football and if we are just lamenting Brazil's defeat in the world cup, we will end up going into depression Tongue

Our beloved "Brasileirão" starts only on April 15th, before that we will have the state games. But, the teams are already preparing their teams for the main championship in the country, and then we can discuss in this topic the hiring of technical staff and players until the championship starts.

Here are the 20 clubs that will compete in the championship:

  • Palmeiras
  • Flamengo
  • Cruzeiro
  • Internacional
  • Fluminense
  • Corinthians
  • Athletico-PR
  • Atlético
  • Fortaleza
  • São Paulo
  • América
  • Botafogo
  • Santos
  • Goiás
  • Red Bull Bragantino
  • Coritiba
  • Cuiabá
  • Grêmio
  • Vasco
  • Bahia

Of these, 15 have already lifted the cup, so they are predicting that it will be a very close dispute.

Is anyone crazy to hazard a guess at this point about the likely champion? Cool

LEADERBOARD

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1800  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Binance pode estar exigindo declaração de imposto de renda para alguns saques on: December 09, 2022, 12:53:16 AM
Quero frizar aqui o quão sensível é esse documento. Esse documento não ppde nunca ser exigido por uma entidade privada,  a não quer legalmente obrigada a recebê-lo.  O IRPF contém TODOS os seus dados de renda e patrimônio  e é um abuso a exigência dele para qualquer assunto que seja.

Agora me ascendeu um "red light "  com a binance. Vou evitar mover altos valores lá por um tempo.

Me desculpe questionar logo você @bitmover e a livecoins, mas o quão "real" será que é essa imagem e a publicação do usuário?

Eu nunca qualquer notícia da Binance exigindo esse documento, que como você já frisou... é uma prática ilegal. E além do mais, a Binance mesmo opera em uma área cinza, ou seja, nem ela atende completamente às leis brasileiras.

Quase certeza que essa é uma posição arbitrária da própria Binance e não alguma "solicitação" que a FRB, PF, etc tenha feito para que eles monitorassem determinadas atividades ou pessoas suspeitas.

Enfim, chegando à um ponto como esse, creio ser mais seguro operarmos em exchanges que estão 100% legalizadas por aqui, como a BitcoinTrade (sim, eu adoro ela) onde a gente ainda tem algum amparo legal caso algo dê merda.... não que isso possa ser uma garantia, mas é melhor que nada.
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