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1781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 23, 2014, 12:28:10 PM
SO to run 2 master nodes, do I need to rent 2 server? or I can rent 1 and run them side by side?

You need 1 IP per MN. You can do this if you have a server with 2 IPs, but it's complex. And often it's cheaper just to rent 2 servers anyway.
1782  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 22, 2014, 07:47:46 PM
I think the Bitshares price bump has something to do with them nearly having their decentralized exchange ready to roll out. Good project check it out if you have the time.
Can you hit me up with a few links? I do not have so much time on my hands to be looking around for them.
Are they going to open source it? If it's good then it can be implemented in a lot of places.
There was always a need for a decentralized exchange even for Bitcoin and Darkcoin obviously.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?board=65.0

That's the main BitsharesX forum.

A decentralised exchange is all very well but nobody outside of the existing crypto community gives a flying fuck.

MasterNet on the other hand - a global decentralised unDDOSable VPN and hosting platform with integrated automatic anonymity... there's real money in that.  Smiley
I'm wondering if this is really true... Pardon me for playing Devil's Advocate...

I'm wondering if DRK does more than people can understand. Single-feature shitcoins are easy to grasp, even if utility is marginal or moot. LTC is still massive, and with absolutely no reason remaining from it's original feature set.

I don't think people can understand waht DRK an MN Services can do for them. They look at it with a deer-in-the-headlights stare having no idea at all why it's needed. Or worse, understanding just barely enough about DRK, but not understanding the evil forces at work in the world, and referring to DRK as a solution in search of a problem.

You're right - this is why I don't care at all about the current price or what anyone in the crypto 'communuty' thinks of it. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC. And also why I'm suggesting that Evan reach out to existing suppliers of things like decentralised hosting to offer them a means of improving their existing service to their existing userbase.

Jo Public (and the average crypto trader) doesn't have a clue, but a company that's already pioneering decentralised infrastructure is more likely to, and the appeal of the MN network, with its intrinsic anonymity, should be apparent to them. Give these kinds of people a means of wringing added utility from what we have, and charge them for it. Sod some shitcoin and it's crappy crypto exchange. Sure, we can do that as well, but it's not where the real potential is.

I think we ought to be aiming higher than beating Litecoin in marketcap, much, much higher.
1783  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 22, 2014, 01:01:25 PM
I think the Bitshares price bump has something to do with them nearly having their decentralized exchange ready to roll out. Good project check it out if you have the time.
Can you hit me up with a few links? I do not have so much time on my hands to be looking around for them.
Are they going to open source it? If it's good then it can be implemented in a lot of places.
There was always a need for a decentralized exchange even for Bitcoin and Darkcoin obviously.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?board=65.0

That's the main BitsharesX forum.

A decentralised exchange is all very well but nobody outside of the existing crypto community gives a flying fuck.

MasterNet on the other hand - a global decentralised unDDOSable VPN and hosting platform with integrated automatic anonymity... there's real money in that.  Smiley

yep, then decentralised darkmails, decentralised darkboxes, dark ip Smartphones that can block nsa, bnd and all other who we don't need in our phone connection.

Another fantastic idea for real world use - anonymous (or at least untraceable)  texting.

You buy some DarkText credit from the in-wallet DarkComms Market, an app on your droid then sends your text via the MasterNet, relayed by some random MN. Could work more or less the same as anon massaging wallet to wallet, just via your phone instead.
1784  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 22, 2014, 12:34:11 PM
I think the Bitshares price bump has something to do with them nearly having their decentralized exchange ready to roll out. Good project check it out if you have the time.
Can you hit me up with a few links? I do not have so much time on my hands to be looking around for them.
Are they going to open source it? If it's good then it can be implemented in a lot of places.
There was always a need for a decentralized exchange even for Bitcoin and Darkcoin obviously.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?board=65.0

That's the main BitsharesX forum.

A decentralised exchange is all very well but nobody outside of the existing crypto community gives a flying fuck.

MasterNet on the other hand - a global decentralised unDDOSable VPN and hosting platform with integrated automatic anonymity... there's real money in that.  Smiley
1785  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 22, 2014, 11:08:05 AM
If you're running RC4 with an encrypted wallet please migrate your funds to a new wallet running 10.12.32.

Do you mean it's recommended to create a new empty wallet with 10.12.32 and then transfer funds from the old wallet to the new?

I'm not the boss, but: yes.
1786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 22, 2014, 02:02:51 AM
I think it would be so sweet if someone would take the time to make a youtube video on how to set up a masternode. It may even attract more non-technical savvy people to accumulating more DRK and setup masternodes. Hint...Hint...Hint...



I would love that for the site as well!!!

Someone send me 10DRK and I will make a video explaining how to follow simple instructions and perform cut/paste operations!

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1787  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 22, 2014, 01:01:03 AM
How critical is it that I update my pre-RC3 MN? Last week I received 7 consecutive days of payments which was a new record for my month in a half old MN. Now I haven't received anything for 3 days. What can I expect with my MN while I wait for help to update? Thank you.

Oh, and what does the acronym "RC3" mean?



RC = Release Candidate

We are now at RC4. If you want to go on getting paid you need to update your MN.
1788  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 22, 2014, 12:44:04 AM

v31 deprecated.

v32 here, or see eduffield's post a page or so back.
https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc4-issues-bugs-feature-requests.2039/

edit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg8476904#msg8476904
1789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 21, 2014, 11:23:48 PM
BIP32 (deterministic wallets based on seed phrases) would be really nice in this case because as long as you have the phrase,
restoring every possible key is as simple as restoring the wallet from the seed phrase.



Can't wait for this, it will make wallet management and security so much easier.  Smiley
1790  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 21, 2014, 11:17:19 PM
They should be fine, as Darksend should be disabled for those wallets, thus no large keypool issues (which were rare anyway).

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I have no plans to mess with my MN wallet.dat files.
As my MN wallet.dat has a balance of 0.00 i will simply delete it on next update to v32+

I meant (and I think oblox said) the local/cold wallet that has the 1000DRK in it.
1791  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 21, 2014, 11:12:43 PM
Since it's not mandatory for MN opps, will cold-storage wallet files for a cold/remote masternode be fine running v30/v31?
They should be fine, as Darksend should be disabled for those wallets, thus no large keypool issues (which were rare anyway).

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I have no plans to mess with my MN wallet.dat files.

edit: if you use the QT client to manage your MN funds, make sure you disable Darksend before loading the MN wallet to withdraw payments etc., or load it in conjunction with the darkcoin.conf file associated with that MN, which should have masternode=1 in it, disabling Darksend.
1792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 21, 2014, 10:39:45 PM
How about free (basic, capped) access for maintaining, say 100DRK in your wallet? Or something along those lines - might help price stability?

Good enough for private email, chat etc.
1793  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 21, 2014, 10:10:07 PM
Any comments about current price and likely movement of price??

Far too low, and up.

Read the last 20 pages. I think MN's are about to get a whole lot more valuable.
1794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 21, 2014, 09:45:47 PM
Would it be possible to offer an anti ddos network for business?

in other words, the to be reached ip is hidden by DRK TOR therefore the DDOS attack would only be succesful if all masternodes would be attacked. Companies would pay for this service thats for sure.

Kind of  powerpumped anti ddos network


Distributed webhosting, sure...  Smiley

edit: This alone is potentially worth serious money.



Then, lets go and get some VC money, and plug into the Darkcoin MN API  Grin

Doing it from scratch is a lot of work, offering existing suppliers in that market a way of plugging in to the MasterNet might bring far faster results.

eg, if Evan were to contact someone like http://tronkle.com/index.php/gdh/description ...

For any of this to happen the core team is going to have to expand significantly, new partners are going to have to be brought on board, Evan's coding fingers are probably worn nearly to stumps as it is.

edit: get me some VC money, we'll simply BUY tronkle (or someone) ... Wink
1795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 21, 2014, 09:21:46 PM
Would it be possible to offer an anti ddos network for business?

in other words, the to be reached ip is hidden by DRK TOR therefore the DDOS attack would only be succesful if all masternodes would be attacked. Companies would pay for this service thats for sure.

Kind of  powerpumped anti ddos network


Distributed webhosting, sure...  Smiley

edit: This alone is potentially worth serious money.

1796  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 21, 2014, 09:15:57 PM


Own DNS ?
Are we now talking about recreating the Namecoin functionality ?

Custom DNS services have been around for donkeys years, it's not hard to do.
1797  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 21, 2014, 09:07:43 PM
- What I'd like to know is how will it be usable?
(By that I mean, will you need a special browser that connects to the MN network? Or will you just use your normal browser with it pointing at some sort of "DarkTor" proxy client installed on your system?)
- If you do use your current browser, what are the ramifications of that same browser then connecting to websites directly without going through DarkTor? (i.e. cookies, history, cache, etc)
- If you need to use a special browser, what are the development and maintenance ramifications of this?
- Will you be able to browse to any current website anonymously and will everything work like it currently does?

If MasterNet functions as a distributed VPN, then you buy credit on it in-wallet, are issued some kind of numeric token and then point your existing browser at whatever the designated proxy is (a MN presumeably) specifying your credit token and do everything as normal, except securely and privately.

- Is it likely there will be websites that sit exclusively within the DarkTor network? What special advantages might they have? What would be a high level domain associated with this and what are the technical ramifications of this?
- What about bandwidth issues if the user wants to stream video, share desktops, etc?
- What about protocols other than HTTP(S)? Will we open it to all sorts of things or restrict it?
.dark, .private, .anything you like, the MNs could run their own DNS service. (Another revenue stream - DarkGoDaddy Smiley)
Bandwidth would be capped depending on what you've paid for.
As to protocols, everything currently existing will work, it depends what 'we' choose to allow, and new protocols such as mnp could be implemented if/as needed.


And with regards to the name, I have a few ideas too, but firstly:

- Who will use this service?
- What would we expect the demographic to be (which is important in terms of pricing)?
- Who is offering the service? (obviously, it's the collective MNs, but is that "DarkCoin")
- If it's "DarkCoin" offering the service, what are the risks to the value of DRK if the service is compromised?
- Is it likely we'll travel along unscathed or will DarkTor likely become a magnet for guv hackers everywhere to break or takedown?
- Will the risk we're exposing DRK to via this service be worth it?
- Will DarkTor (or whatever it will be called) being associated with DarkCoin impact the wider adoption and take-up of DRK as a payment option?

There are different schools of though about the target demographic. I think the easiest solution is to make it as cheap as possible and let people decide for themselves what they want to use it for, if they want to use it at all.

DS+ gives users a sliding scale of transactional anonymity, although 2 rounds is probably enough for anyone, nobody has traced a 2 round transaction yet - maybe any future MasterNet pricing and structure could also be mutable to different needs.

edit: I've stated before that I think Evan and team should just facilitate all this by making it easy for anyone to use the MN network via some sort of API, but I don't really see any reason why the core team shouldn't be producing their own stuff to run on it too, legailities permitting.

Can you see where I'm going with this? A whole lot more discussion is needed on what this is, how it meshes (DarkMesh?) into the rest of DarkCoin's plan and strategy and what the long term potential is. There needs to be a lot more clarity and then I think a name will be chosen that's likely to be more accurate for the service's ultimate goal. It's very easy to get all hyped up early on, pick a name that ultimately doesn't make sense (anyone remember Apple's Lisa?). Iris sounds good and all but when you look at the definition of iris (from wikipedia)...
Quote
"The iris (plural: irides or irises) is a thin, circular structure in the eye, responsible for controlling the diameter and size of the pupil and thus the amount of light reaching the retina"
...that concept "the amount of light reaching the retina" isn't really a metaphor for what this service is about. We're not "restricting the amount of light reaching the retina" I would think, we're opening everything up but making the light invisible (DarkInvis perhaps?)

Anyway, some things to consider.

You're right this all needs a lot of thought!
1798  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 21, 2014, 08:48:57 PM


putting zero was a stupid choice.

How much would you pay for gas? 4 dollars a gallon, 1 dollar again, 0 dollars gas is free...


Not necessarily, it weeds out the negative nancies...
1799  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 21, 2014, 08:47:10 PM
There is absolutely going to have to be a minumum MN spec (bandwidth!) for this though. And it's going to be near impossible to enforce that, so some mechanism for booting shitty underspecced VPS's off the network would need to exist.

Well, if they have to pay for bandwidth, then it makes sense for the masternodes to get paid based on bandwidth provided, perhaps? There are plenty of considerations/caveats for this though.

I would imagine it would be a very very hard task to design and implement such a system so that no one can cheat it. Maybe practically impossible?

First thought that springs to...  upon joining the MN network a new MN is 'benchmarked' and given a score, with work and rewards dished out accordingly. Would still need some min spec though. And some check to make sure the service was running on a bona-fide MN at all, depending on how integrated it ends up.

The existing system for voting/block reward payment needn't be affected.

It's certainly a challenging problem. Luckily we know a dev who likes a challenge.
1800  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 21, 2014, 07:56:13 PM

I think pricing per MB/GB makes more sense, but hey you could have it both ways, or impose caps, all priced up and selectable in-wallet.

Prices in that poll are on the high side IMO...  

(10 cents / 0.0275 DRK (current exchange) * 1000000 daily users) / 1000 MNs = still 27.5DRK or ~$100 per day.

There is absolutely going to have to be a minumum MN spec (bandwidth!) for this though. And it's going to be near impossible to enforce that, so some mechanism for booting shitty underspecced VPS's off the network would need to exist.

To be honest....I've been thinking about the pricing all day and I came to the conclusion that Web 3.0 is the way to go, and for free.

This survey backs up my thinking. People won't pay.

So.

I came up with plan B. I think Plan B has the potential to make every single Master Node worth $5m - $10m

You'll have to wait and see........Just think about Web 3.0 for a while and it will come to you. What's more, every single person in the world will use it.

Governments will welcome it.

You're talking about making the MasterNet an ISP?

edit: nope. You're talking about making the Masternet a whole new protocol? tcp - udp... mnp!
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