Jeebus!!!
I'm starting to think like JJG!!!
I managed to get into his mind, but now I can't get the fuck out!!!
Go with it! The artist haz become art! *The final step's when you don't tell people you're in character. Ever  OMG!!! Lambie is Andy Kaufman! |
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Jeebus!!!
I'm starting to think like JJG!!!
I managed to get into his mind, but now I can't get the fuck out!!!
That happened to Daniel Day Lewis. I hear he still thinks he's Lincoln. It's an American tragedy. Yeah, but he can just stick with Netflix. No, the doctors say to keep him away from the television. It upsets him. Odd, I thought it was theaters that worried him. |
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Jeebus!!!
I'm starting to think like JJG!!!
I managed to get into his mind, but now I can't get the fuck out!!!
That happened to Daniel Day Lewis. I hear he still thinks he's Lincoln. It's an American tragedy. Yeah, but he can just stick with Netflix. |
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Jeebus!!!
I'm starting to think like JJG!!!
I managed to get into his mind, but now I can't get the fuck out!!!
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^I remember this from the news. I remember thinking, "well that's peculiar."  He was a "computer repair technician", and lets be honest, if he's ever let out he will be a bitcoiner. |
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So I'm eating toasted almonds and it occurs to me that Peter Todd doesn't so much 'exist' as he's some sort of fiction designed to concoct outrageous ideas like RBF to distract us from the real issues: blocksize and flouridation.  Check your boxers. Those are not almonds. |
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-snip- ... sharing bullshit quasi-irrelevant thread space fillers?
 Hahahahahaha... It seems that you are trying to say something about either the space and/or the relevancy of my posts? Helrow? go on, say it. Don't be shy.  Maybe he is worried about there not being enough space left in the thread, which I don't know if I agree with. This thread is 14525 pages already so there doesn't seem to be a problem if we write a lot of crap. But maybe he is worried that we spend too much time on this thread. He always seems to write quite short posts where he gets right to the point, maybe that's because he worries about bloat in the thread. If you look at BlindMayorBitcorn you can see that his post, which was kind of a response to Cconvert2G36s post you I THINK you will find he answered quite brief. But why? BlindMayorBitcorn can write pretty long stuff but he can also write short stuff. I THINK both of them worry too much about bloat in the thread, but BMB can post a lot of silly stuff so he can't be too worried about it I THINK. But maybe he's just an asshole who doesn't give a damn and just pretends to care about bloat in the thread. Who knows? Perhaps they know of someone who wants to put this whole thread on the blockchain and cause bloat there, that would be really unnecessary if that were true. That would be really stupid I THINK. Honestly, I THINK it's very unnecessary of them to bother you about this stuff just because someone maybe will put the thread on the blockchain. It's not like there's a warning telling us that this would happen. It really sounds like a dumb idea. Then again, maybe they just agree with you with regards to Aztecminer. I THINK it's difficult to tell from that gif. Aztecminer can write a lot of weird stuff you regret reading, he can also be quite repetitive. On the other hand, I THINK he can be quite amusing at times, intentionally or not, he seems to have some mind-blowing ideas about just about everything, the question is really if his mind is already blown. But I THINK that's his own business and nobody else's. Just like that dancer dude you have as an avatar and which your many many many words never have touched. Speaking of repetitive, look at BJA, I mean... that guy is repetitive. We've all heard that he's upset about the block size and all, but... give me a break. On the other hand I THINK all he probably wants to do is his bit to get this thing resolved. He writes quite a lot about it, maybe he wants to intentionally bloat the blockchain to push the issue that way. If that is true then I THINK that's not ok at all. He really shouldn't create a bad situation by creating bloat. Then again we don't know if this thread will ever get on the blockchain. Who knows? But his point about "paying for blockspace" can be relevant if this thread is going on the blockchain. Do we pay rent there then? Do I have to pay? This is a question we really should look into. On the other hand, I THINK he might have been full of shit... but that doesn't mean he wasn't on to something. There are other people here who use up a lot of thread space with pictures. Especially Peonminer and Adam. I guess it's not that bad if it's only the links that will be included on the blockchain. But if all the pictures are to be stored on the blockchain then I think that's a real problem. Most of those pictures are larger than your posts, if we're talking raw data. I THINK it would make little sense to upload the thread on the blockchain without the pictures. They provide a lot of context and at times they're kind of the bread and butter of this thread. Can you imagine someone trying to read this in five thousand years and not get to see any of the pictures? It would be completely nonsensical. Anyhew, I can't really understand what all this is about. It's really difficult to know exactly what Cconvert2G36 was getting at. There is so little information in his puny little excuse of a post that it just makes me mad. Not real mad, just a little bit. There seems to be some insinuation that you yourself can be contributing to "bullshit quasi-irrelevant thread space fillers" in a way that dwarfs any effort on Aztecs side, but I THINK that's something each and every one of us will have to decide for OURSELVES. Whether your attempt at parody is effective or not, maybe some readers will decide in your favor? As to your point regarding relevance, surely some readers are going to arrive at varying conclusions, and yet there is some objectivity that some conclusions are more convincing than others. When we post, each of us needs to decide the extent to which we believe our ideas are relevant or sufficiently contained within a space to contribute or to communicate value, and sometimes, the point of some poster's post will be to accuse another of irrelevance or disingenuiness... which was part of my point regarding the recent string of Aztecminer's PM advocating posts. I honestly don't know if you're joking, but I'm loling like a mofo! Kudos! |
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-snip- ... sharing bullshit quasi-irrelevant thread space fillers?
Hahahahahaha... It seems that you are trying to say something about either the space and/or the relevancy of my posts? Helrow? go on, say it. Don't be shy. Maybe he is worried about there not being enough space left in the thread, which I don't know if I agree with. This thread is 14525 pages already so there doesn't seem to be a problem if we write a lot of crap. But maybe he is worried that we spend too much time on this thread. He always seems to write quite short posts where he gets right to the point, maybe that's because he worries about bloat in the thread. If you look at BlindMayorBitcorn you can see that his post, which was kind of a response to Cconvert2G36s post you I THINK you will find he answered quite brief. But why? BlindMayorBitcorn can write pretty long stuff but he can also write short stuff. I THINK both of them worry too much about bloat in the thread, but BMB can post a lot of silly stuff so he can't be too worried about it I THINK. But maybe he's just an asshole who doesn't give a damn and just pretends to care about bloat in the thread. Who knows? Perhaps they know of someone who wants to put this whole thread on the blockchain and cause bloat there, that would be really unnecessary if that were true. That would be really stupid I THINK. Honestly, I THINK it's very unnecessary of them to bother you about this stuff just because someone maybe will put the thread on the blockchain. It's not like there's a warning telling us that this would happen. It really sounds like a dumb idea. Then again, maybe they just agree with you with regards to Aztecminer. I THINK it's difficult to tell from that gif. Aztecminer can write a lot of weird stuff you regret reading, he can also be quite repetitive. On the other hand, I THINK he can be quite amusing at times, intentionally or not, he seems to have some mind-blowing ideas about just about everything, the question is really if his mind is already blown. But I THINK that's his own business and nobody else's. Just like that dancer dude you have as an avatar and which your many many many words never have touched. Speaking of repetitive, look at BJA, I mean... that guy is repetitive. We've all heard that he's upset about the block size and all, but... give me a break. On the other hand I THINK all he probably wants to do is his bit to get this thing resolved. He writes quite a lot about it, maybe he wants to intentionally bloat the blockchain to push the issue that way. If that is true then I THINK that's not ok at all. He really shouldn't create a bad situation by creating bloat. Then again we don't know if this thread will ever get on the blockchain. Who knows? But his point about "paying for blockspace" can be relevant if this thread is going on the blockchain. Do we pay rent there then? Do I have to pay? This is a question we really should look into. On the other hand, I THINK he might have been full of shit... but that doesn't mean he wasn't on to something. There are other people here who use up a lot of thread space with pictures. Especially Peonminer and Adam. I guess it's not that bad if it's only the links that will be included on the blockchain. But if all the pictures are to be stored on the blockchain then I think that's a real problem. Most of those pictures are larger than your posts, if we're talking raw data. I THINK it would make little sense to upload the thread on the blockchain without the pictures. They provide a lot of context and at times they're kind of the bread and butter of this thread. Can you imagine someone trying to read this in five thousand years and not get to see any of the pictures? It would be completely nonsensical. Anyhew, I can't really understand what all this is about. It's really difficult to know exactly what Cconvert2G36 was getting at. There is so little information in his puny little excuse of a post that it just makes me mad. Not real mad, just a little bit. There seems to be some insinuation that you yourself can be contributing to "bullshit quasi-irrelevant thread space fillers" in a way that dwarfs any effort on Aztecs side, but I THINK that's something each and every one of us will have to decide for OURSELVES. |
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RBF? LN? ELI5 TLA? ty
This RBF = Resting Bitch Face  It's very "in" now it seems.    LN = natural logarithm (ln) Edit: BCT refused to show Gavin, but if you press the "invalid image" banner I have provided a hyperlink. |
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Simple question and maybe this has been addressed someplace else, but from what I've been reading Ethereum will eventually allow anything to serve as a tradeble currency or "token" within the Ethereum ecosystem. So what is the purpose of the Ethereum currency itself (Eth)?
Say for example I'm a company and I want to issue shares. I want to do it simply with a friction-less system (i.e. instant with minimal fees) that allows me to issue or transfer shares easily, and publicly verify ownership. Based on Ethereum I can simply create shares from nothing and issue them within Ethereum. All the share holders have to do is prove they own an address which contains shares that I've created. Those shares would not exist outside of Ethereum but who cares? The point is just to have a publicly verifiable ledger that shows who owns what in my company. In this scenario I would have no need whatsoever for Eth, but I'm still using Ethereum. How would that work?
Edit - I've been thinking about it and the only thing I can think of is that Eth is what will be used to pay fees to support the entire Ethereum ecosystem. Using my previous example say there are a bunch of companies issuing shares. They have each created a token that is unique for their company. But now somebody wants to transfer some shares, which would require a small fee. Well what do you pay the fee in? tokens? Whose token? I think by providing an underlying base level currency (Eth) the developers will be able to get around this. Which would mean all fees are paid in Eth, but whats actually being transferred could be anything. Am I on the right track here?
Yup. Eth is the "fuel" to keep the network running. To do operations and pay miners. You can make your own tokens to work within this system, but it all needs to be "fueled" by eth. PS! Before you expose anything of value to ethereum, even when it's fully up and running, you need to check if it's legally recognized by the relevant authorities. You can't normally just issue shares willy nilly (I understand it probably was just an example, but I thought I'd mention it). I think Ethereum is exactly the sort of of platform that will allow things like that to happen "willy nilly" (using your term cuz I liked it) There is no central authority that controls the creation of tokens, currency, digital soap bars, whatever you want right? So I would imagine all sorts of "illegal" things will be taking place on Ethereum. By that I mean people may attempt to circumvent laws, not actually selling illegal items. Sure, just don't assume that all contractual arrangements on ethereum are enforceable. If that is important to you then you need to check. |
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I don't think the part of tomothy's question in bold is answered properly.
So, part of your mission is "Fostering Core Development", but you won't outright support Core on their approach for the block size debate? How can this be?
Do you plan to support the other teams like XT or BU then?
And "Gavin no longer receives a salary from the Bitcoin Foundation"... what does that mean? Is he no longer chief scientist?
To put it another way: If someone supports The Bitcoin Foundation in any way, what are they supporting?
Best Regards
Oh, and thanks to tomothy for bringing something meaningful into this.
This is a draft mission statement, the specific reason it is listed as a draft and out for comment is to answer questions like this. My thought is that, since we have members like Gavin, Garzik, Peter Todd and companies from various sides of the discussion that working to be neutral and improve communication and consensus is valuable. If you think the foundation should take a solid stand on the blocksize debate, then that is very worthy of discussion. It's up to the members to convey this to the board and the board to determine how they best represent those members. Yes, Gavin is still Chief Scientist, he is not paid, he is a volunteer just like all other roles (save two part time admin roles) Thanks for the clarification. I don't really see a point in the foundation bossing about in tech questions, but the block size debate has created a schism of sorts. I guess what I'm really curious about is if you are solely committed to supporting the Core devs or if you'll consider supporting efforts or talented individuals from teams working on other implementations in the future? Is your neutral line to be read as an affirmative to supporting other implementations or do you see TBF bound to Core in a way that makes this unlikely? Is this up for debate as well? Best Regards |
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Simple question and maybe this has been addressed someplace else, but from what I've been reading Ethereum will eventually allow anything to serve as a tradeble currency or "token" within the Ethereum ecosystem. So what is the purpose of the Ethereum currency itself (Eth)?
Say for example I'm a company and I want to issue shares. I want to do it simply with a friction-less system (i.e. instant with minimal fees) that allows me to issue or transfer shares easily, and publicly verify ownership. Based on Ethereum I can simply create shares from nothing and issue them within Ethereum. All the share holders have to do is prove they own an address which contains shares that I've created. Those shares would not exist outside of Ethereum but who cares? The point is just to have a publicly verifiable ledger that shows who owns what in my company. In this scenario I would have no need whatsoever for Eth, but I'm still using Ethereum. How would that work?
Edit - I've been thinking about it and the only thing I can think of is that Eth is what will be used to pay fees to support the entire Ethereum ecosystem. Using my previous example say there are a bunch of companies issuing shares. They have each created a token that is unique for their company. But now somebody wants to transfer some shares, which would require a small fee. Well what do you pay the fee in? tokens? Whose token? I think by providing an underlying base level currency (Eth) the developers will be able to get around this. Which would mean all fees are paid in Eth, but whats actually being transferred could be anything. Am I on the right track here?
Yup. Eth is the "fuel" to keep the network running. To do operations and pay miners. You can make your own tokens to work within this system, but it all needs to be "fueled" by eth. PS! Before you expose anything of value to ethereum, even when it's fully up and running, you need to check if it's legally recognized by the relevant authorities. You can't normally just issue shares willy nilly (I understand it probably was just an example, but I thought I'd mention it). |
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