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1781  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: November 18, 2016, 09:39:46 AM
I would prefer real gambling to online because just that I can a feeling of the person I am playing with and to a large extent I am sure if I lose, I lose fair and the same goes for if I should win. This is enough reason for me rather than having to rely on all "provavbly fair slogan" all over the place whereas "the house always wins"

I will still stick also with real gambling because the real thrill will always be there unlike sitting in front of your computer unit while doing some clicks and betting on it. The thrill maybe there but not the same with real gambling, I like more the true gambling experience because you can feel the real upsetting when you lose and real winning if you win.

But real gambling is not allowed in all countries so for those people flying to other countries just to gamble will be very expensive. So for them, it may be good enough online gambling excitement than having very expensive real casino experience. So for I went to real casinos only two times but didn't play much in real casinos.
I can't agree with your statement mate, I am doing real gambling in my country and I am allowed, some countries just have a strict law regarding gambling because they think that it can destroy their people's life but definitely not all country.

Considering your statement is true under the scenario, there is still no reason to be worried as in online world we can gamble using our bitcoin.

My country allows us to gamble but the local citizen must pay a 80usd entrance fee first. So end up, a lot of us travel to neighbour country to gamble cause of the advantage of currency and no entrance fee.
you mean to get in the casino you must pay that big amount first? seriously?
i am curious what country do you live in?
80 USD trully expensive for you just to gamble , you better use it to gamble online freely ,
it must be sucks to do it everytime you have to gamble.
1782  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is CHINA CONTROLLING Bitcoin? on: November 18, 2016, 08:02:19 AM
India is coming up fast ... and Russia too.
it is still china the number 1 bitcoin adopter , number 1 bitcoin miner ,
people knew about that and aware that anytime they can control more than 50% bitcoin supply ,
this is sounds like horrible but it is true ,
i don't think india or russia can compete with china in adopting bitcoin.
1783  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: November 18, 2016, 07:25:42 AM
We all have some amount of bitcoins in our wallets..
Do you really think bitcoin is a currency Worthing you more than a real currency...
I do because real currency price won't grow up or down as bitcoin...
So do you or not ??
And also have a discussion about its prices in future..!!
It is worth it for me. Unlike real money currencies, bitcoin is more flexible. That you can either do trading, investing, selling or mining.
Except for mining you can do all of that with fiat too, in my opinion the greatest strength of bitcoin comes from its decentralized nature, that has allowed bitcoin to survive and even thrive despite all the obstacles.
Yes the decentralization is really good for us,  unlike fiat that can monopolied by bank.  Bitcoin  was designed to be deflation  everytime,  it mean the value will always rise. Bitcoin  will survive as long as people use it.  The number of people who use bitcoin is increase every time. So I am really sure that Bitcoin price will keep rising forever.  So bitcoin is worth as an investment  for me.
sometimes decentralization is sucks , you know what ,
you have 100% responsible on anything happened to your money ,
for example when you lost your money because hacked or any other technical problem noone will help you ,
so it is sometimes worth more than just money but sometimes horrible.
1784  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 18, 2016, 07:15:35 AM
-snip-

leicester urgently need a winning , or they could be the first EPL champion that relegated ,
not funny at all if it is later happened ,
but i see watford have a big desire to win too as survivor , not easy to pick this ,
but well let's see i will follow this pick for fun .

Leicester be the first relegated team? You must be kidding me, the season is still to o long. Your imagination is too far away from the reality, you can only say about relegation when the season is close to the end.
In this match Watford as the host has more advantage to win but on other side Leicester need 3 points hardly to push their position up. I think it will be a tight game with less goals. Going for under 2.5 goals maybe a good choice.
the reality is leicester suffering 5 lost 3 draw and 3 wins only so far in EPL ,
which means if they keep playing bad , they will relegated ,
instead to pick under or over goals i prefer to pick both teams to score ,
if you take a look to a statistics , watford always scored a goal at least when they play at home.
1785  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: X FREE Tipster Competition - sponsored by DirectBet (Discussion Thread) on: November 18, 2016, 02:57:20 AM
Hello everyone, since we had many changes I will make a few reminders from time to time, to make sure everything goes well.

Some users are already taking advantage of the X3 prizes, and declaring over 1 BTC bankroll or the equivalent in alt coins, that's good news.

But right now most of our users are not taking advantage of the new 100mBTC contribution prize.
We only have 6 out of 14 users (not counting multi accounts)
Remember that you need to declare that you want to apply for that prize, since it has some specific requirements.

Here is the post with the recent updates:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1256522.msg16892469#msg16892469
oh looks like there is a lot of changes made for the next competition ,
i missed the last championship edition ,
btw can you just to write the exact number of 1 btc equivalent in alt coins? to avoid confusion ,
as the price of altcoin constantly move, will do register after you answer to this thanks.
1786  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 18, 2016, 01:14:34 AM
Hello to all fans of England Premier League!
After one week break i will continue to share best suggestion and tips for this league so feel free to follow and comment.

My 3rd bet for this week will be match between Watford FC v Leicester City

Starting date and time: 19/11/16 16:00 (sportsbet.io time)

This event can be found here:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/pre-live/soccer-english-premier-league/watford-fc-v-leicester-city/event/9599977?ref=tipster1

Match:  Watford FC v Leicester City
Betting option: HT-FT Draw/Leicester City
Odd: 5.75
Stake: 0.015 (15mbtc)
Return: 0.086 (86.25mbtc)

Proof:



Tight game, where winner will be decided in 2nd half if you ask me. Watford in good form, and Leicester need some win if they wanna grab top 5. Low number of goals and my prediciton is 0:1 or 0:2 for Foxes this weekend. Good luck to all followers!

leicester urgently need a winning , or they could be the first EPL champion that relegated ,
not funny at all if it is later happened ,
but i see watford have a big desire to win too as survivor , not easy to pick this ,
but well let's see i will follow this pick for fun .
1787  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: November 18, 2016, 01:05:26 AM
It's not debatable, they understand already that gambling is a risky game so they need to accept whatever the outcome.

I have referrals and I believe they are losing but I have not received any messages telling that I was blame because they lose in gambling. Maybe the right person to be blame is themselves.
You are right! They have their own decision to make, they are responsible to know the risk of gambling. Inviting friends to refer has a hard part also, you should have a good charm of encouragement; you need to help them too on how to earn.

It is true that having referrals on a gambling site really earns you a passive income but as you said it is really hard to get good and active gambling referrals, even if the referrals don't blame you but mostly they stop doing something they did not started by their own but they were referred to it.

referrals need to constantly change. some no longer profitable after only a month after their involvement. I can not call it a passive income. To get a good referral is necessary to work hard

Referrals are just for a short term income and I don't think it can be called a passive income either because having a single referral is too hard to get. And it is needed to be taken care very well, I've been doing this for a paid to click site and I tried also to gambling sites but it is kinda a hard work for me so I can't say that gambling referrals will give you a passive income.

No passive income from referrals for sure. Hard to get them, and 70% of them wouldn't click or do the task to give you comission. Maybe some site owners can get a lot of referrals to give comission for them, but the mass can't get it.
I understand the difficulty you have to bring referrals with you, I have the same difficulty, I don't try to get them anymore, now I just join sites which I can make good profit alone, by myself.
especially if you expect from faucet referrals lol ,
prefer to do write bitcoin related articles put bitcoin ads and start getting paid in bitcoin too ,
i believe it is the best way to have a passive income right?
become a youtuber could make you get passive income too , but i cannot see there you can paid in bitcoin.
1788  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: November 11, 2016, 09:51:58 AM
The winning hope is the one that keeps users coming back even when they were experiencing continuous fail in events. Secondly users feel excited and entertained when placing bets which gives a fun feel. Such feel can never be experienced in anything else. For this too users come back to gambling.
When you love the game you are playing you will really coming back as you are addicted with it, the happiness that you feel is priceless and that's why a lot of people still come back in gambling despite of the losing experience, I mean as long as you can afford then let's do it.

I think so when get back without any reason than it's clear sign we are addicted of gambling. addiction is very dangerous and I think tat could be reason which can make comeback to players.
i don't think you gamble without reason , you just don't know your reason ,
mostly people back to gamble to claim their losses ,
and sometimes people just too enjoy to gamble forgot about everything outside ,
or there is a gambler that keep coming back for the sake to test the luck.
1789  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you always missed the right time to sell/buy bitcoin? on: November 11, 2016, 09:33:57 AM
may be for some time but not for all the time. as i am still satisfy from my income from bitcoin therefore i think i never miss the right time to buy or sell bitcoin for all the time, i must also have taken good decision while trading bitcoins.
Your profits are the right measurement to judge how conscious you are with your trading. It is a common mistake for most of the traders are facing like missing out the right time to buy or sell. Practically it will not be possible for any trader to grab the exact higher or lower prices. For this reason we need to average our buy or sell levels.
not only missed the right time to buy or sell ,
i have read an article stated that 90% of trader always ended up losing ,
this is a shocking news for me personally as it was based on reliable research ,
it is make me doubt to do trading anymore.
1790  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin transactions - Slow OR Fast on: November 11, 2016, 09:27:55 AM
thats why people starts to invest in altcoins, which gives faster transaction speed like ethereum or NEM. but for me, bitcoin is slow.


Lol, bitcoin is slow is transaction you mean right everyone will laugh at because fast is up to what you are defining as fees. And when see the value bitcoin and altcoins, btc is the best one among all digi coins.
in another altcoin you even don't need to adjust the fees and it is still far better than bitcoin ,
people noticed it once they try an altcoin ,
you must not yet try any altcoin don't you?
i a little bit disappointing on how bitcoin developed day by day , worse.
1791  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 11, 2016, 09:16:26 AM
Who win  the Serie A? (updated)

Juventus at quote@1.15
Roma at quote@7.50
Napoli at quote@17
Milan  at quote@20
Lazio at quote@50
Inter at quote@60

Juventus always clearly the favorite.
The only challenger appears to be the Roma.
 Milan very well contrary to very bad Napoli and Inter.
i have no doubt with Juventus they will be the champion again if they could manage their performance untill end of season because currently there is no teams who could able pursuing them and Roma, Napoli. or even Milan they have no chance and i think on Italian league other teams could not be the champion as long as Juventus don't want it so Juventus will be dominate at least for next several season


Dont underestimate ac milan, it may seems to be lucky at first however so far they are quite good and wih some luck they could win the league, if they are lucky to keep on winning their match than they could be the champion so taking some small bets for them at the odds of 20 is actually not a bad choice
ac milan are not as good as 5-10 years back ,
they are sucks recently in last couple seasons even get out of european competition ,
now they just have a very lucky opening season matches ,
i don't think we can make the favorite .
1792  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: October 29, 2016, 12:01:20 AM
Leganes vs Real Sociedad statics are going into favor of both teams to score @1.90, Leganes is on home ground than it has more chance there to score a goal against Real Sociedad, I will avoid to place bet on ML there because draw will be final result.

To be honest with you, every home team has better advantage to be the winner of a game unless there is a huge gap of difference between the quality of their player however there isnt much difference between leganes and sociedad therefore picking leganes to win is actually a good bet as well though for this match
well a home team doesn't mean they have bigger chance to win if the opponent are bigger teams ,
in this case real sociedad are far better than leganes ,
and it is proven already they lost 0-2 at home to real sociedad ,
really a bad call if you bet for leganes , they are so weak.
1793  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: October 28, 2016, 11:36:15 PM
Definitely diversify and don't put all your eggs in one basket otherwise it will be quite catastrophic if something does go wrong. Except for certain situations where investing as much as you can is a good idea, of course Wink
that's true , never put a risk in one place and one time ,
spread it and also risk only the amount that you really can afford to get lost ,
never be a good idea to put your whole cash to bitcoin ,
unless you are a creaze risk taker , then go for it.
1794  Economy / Economics / Re: Is gold better than Bitcoin? on: October 28, 2016, 02:17:45 PM
it is impossible to compare these kinds of values.

How so? Gold and Bitcoin offer similar features where they indeed have their own aspects as to why, and for what purpose people may prefer to use one of these two options.

Main similarities that people like to compare them for;

# Store of value - Both offer this feature.
# Currency - Both offer this feature where Bitcoin takes the advantage (by a huge distance) as it's much easier to spend in reality.
# Escape from the banking system - Both offer this feature.
# Investment - Both offer this feature.

In both cases there are pros and cons, but they are definitely comparable. Wink
gold as currency? in the long time ago maybe gold used as currency to trade ,
but now it is not as time goes by ,
gold has value doesn't mean it makes automatically considered as currency.
1795  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Turkish Super League Prediction Thread [STSL] on: October 28, 2016, 01:58:32 PM
Today Beşiktaş will win against Gençlerbirliği. They have historical advantage over Gençlerbirliği, they rarely lose. Even though Beşiktaş have Napoli game in Tuesday they have a great squad depth so they use this. You can find quality players outside 18 players squad. For example Kerim Frei and Aras Özbiliz, we didn't even see them enough.
Draw No Bet - Besiktas @ 1.52 for big coupons.
Match Odds - Besiktas @ 2.12 for bigger and better odds.
i don't know if it will be a good idea to bet for besiktas to win , the odds too high ,
makes me confused and curious too what will happened actually ,
both teams to score maybe could be another option?
especially when a home team scored first i guess both teams to score will be much more easier.
1796  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Now Accepting Ether ! on: October 28, 2016, 01:44:14 PM
Something wrong here

Hi BitFlyer.jp,

Thanks for betting at DirectBet.

I apology for this error. Your bet has now been resettled and paid.

Please feel free to contact us if we can be of any further assistance.
Is this error often happened? I am worry my past bets have an error like that.
Any guarantee you did not have an error in the past?

Grading errors are extremely rare and we correct them shortly afterwards.

If you have any concern you can review your entire betting history here :

https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml

Simply enter the ID of any of your past bets, and if you provided your e-mail address when betting you can also request that your entire betting history will be sent to you via e-mail.

i just want to know coz its possible i got that kind of error in the past, if that case happens and the bettor fails to report it to you, what will happen to the bet with error? will you be notified of your provider and send the winnings directly to the user's addresses or it will stay as "lose"? until every player reported it to you?
ouccch too bad if it was really happened , one of my bets could have this error too right?
so if noone noticed and reported manually then the error bet will just settled lost?
i just can not imagine if it was a larger amount hmmm
any technical claim about this directbet?
1797  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: October 27, 2016, 02:09:43 PM
Off course dooes the price of the bitcoin matters how can you buy something that is 6 dollars but you only have the amount of 2 dollars how are ytou able
tyo buy that objec ti dont know.

Thats right, price really matters because if the price of bitcoin was same to other currencies online then it would not have been as popular as it is right now, it is the price that makes it superior from others and it is the price that attracts new people everyday to come and invest in it.
yeah that makes bitcoin become even more popular than the other cryptocurrency is the price of bitcoin itself right ?
I'm sure if the price of bitcoin is only about a few dollars say only $5 certainly nothing special about bitcoin than others cryptocurrency?
bitcoin are not about the final price , but bitcoin about price progress ,
if you still remember bitcoin first price are below $5 , and you think it was nothing special on bitcoin?
no you are totally wrong , people interesting in bitcoin because they know how good the price movement in bitcoin ,
compared to any other crypto curreny or even fiat.
So you mean to say we are here to witness the price movement, we have witness how the price of bitcoin has moved right? It is so unpredictable, sometimes it will start to skyrocket and they fall back hard and then back to its stable price (fluctuation at range), for me, I will only feel there is special when I experience to grow my money based on my desired amount.
people always greedy , they want a good thing only ,
without want to take a bad things , they want a good price bitcoin only ,
but they don't want to support when bitcoin in crisis ,
well i know what kind people is it , i have met a lot of peopple like you .
1798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 27, 2016, 01:46:17 PM
Manchester United on home ground is more strong than City, as expected this fight was very tight but Manchester City looked like real crap, now it has been gone totally underway but Manchester Untied lookw much better into that fight.
if you watch the match you will know why manchester united can win ,
the only reason are because manchester city did not play with the real squad ,
they play like ready to give the winning for manchester united ,
look at the manchester city line up yesterday the you will know.
1799  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: October 27, 2016, 01:28:38 PM
I don't consider gambling as trading. There is huge difference between both one is pure loosing which gambling while in other you can make nice profit on permanent basis. Gambling always is fatal in long term while trading the more time to spend in it the better you begin to understand it.
when you trading you are directed to make a prediction and put your money there ,
in that case trading pretty sure just like gambling ,
but in most case trading totally different to gambling ,
only several things make trading similar llike gambling but it is not actually.
1800  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best Bitcoin Business To Create? on: October 27, 2016, 01:15:03 PM
It is actually based on how much money you have for your business but I can still give you some ideas:

1).Bitcoin Wallet that allows exchanging your coins to fiat. (The more currency the better)
2).Gambling site (Requires a lot of money plus it can cost a lot when you're promoting it)
3).Bitcoin to altcoin exchange site
4).Bitcoin Debit Card Services
5).Bitcoin Lending
i am wondering how much cost required to build those bussineses ,
it is totally not newbie friendly , those business are for people who have large amount capital ,
not many people can do it even they have capital enough ,
as investors still have too much doubt in bitcoin and it was the main problem.

Also the advertisement cost. No way new people will try a service that is only a recent one so people to spend big at advertising. With the lots of same service today, it's really hard to start another one of it with the same kind.

Unique features must take placed. Well as of my status right now, Im doing a Fil to English translation where I asked my clients to pay me with bitcoin instead although they don't know what is it so no choice but to accept fiat.
yepp too much operation cost not recommended at all ,
think it will not give you a profit unless you have a channel already ,
selling giftcard are so popular lately ,
you may want to try start a business like that? you can start the business even with low amount only.
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