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1781  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to tell your Girlfirend about BitcoiN?? on: October 03, 2016, 05:42:13 AM
I would probably teach her on different types of investment of bitcoin and where she can earn money and also where she can get free bitcoins, i would also add her to the fb crypto related groups so she can observe the flow of people how they earn and maybe she can get info to them and lastly i will teach her to try this forum where she cam find deeper information about bitcoin aswell as she can earn money by joining sig campaigns.

That's too complicated if you would dive in to those statements immediately upon telling your girlfriend about bitcoin. A simple paying and receiving of bitcoin would work if they are really interested in learning about bitcoin. But if they are not interested, then be it, don't force them to use it since it would just give them a different impression about earning and using bitcoin.
You should start with the basics, bitcoin is not easy to understand especially when a person you are teaching are not doing regular online transaction. That is your girlfriend so sooner or later she will become your wife, it's good to work together so you can maximize your income.
1782  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: October 03, 2016, 05:28:44 AM
It doesn't matter as long were earning money right if gold and bitcoin can earn easily then we need to choose them both if we can get gold or bitcoin everyday this is good to live with this too and buy lots of things with this i love doing something investing and trading
Bitcoin we can earn it here than gold.. both of them are good to hold honestly i can not afford to buy gold i have my own accesories here made by gold and i think this is one of the good investment for future.. but i will stay in bitcoin since we can earn it here in other activity..
yeah it is easier to earn bitcoins and to actually use it in my opinion , though gold seems to be safer

i cant say gold is safer. .maybe on price but when lossing it gold has more potential to get lost due to many interest but only if you lock it on the safe there you could call it safe and beside gold are like internet money today. .why? they just exchange paper on the internet and they dont have it physically.
right gold physically gather interest from the eye of many people knowing that you have a lots of it can take your life in danger while btc is anonymous you just needed to have clean computer or storage since it is anonymous no one can trace you right away if you have a lots of btc inside your wallet.
Exactly, that is why invest in gold if you are only rich that you can not just afford to buy gold but also to protect your investment.

Bitcoin is the simplest investment so far because it is anonymous and people can never tell how much your worth as a person, in addition with your earnings you  do not need to pay taxes so you can maximize your income.
1783  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans too risky? on: October 03, 2016, 05:25:14 AM
For me if you really don't need to loan because your reason is just for your entertainment or anything that is not a valid reason for it. Then it is better if you are just going to keep quiet and you are not going to borrow anymore because that is just going to put you in debt after you enjoyed the money you borrowed when paying time is come.

Thats a good advice. As possible, lending is not a good idea unless it is very necessary to your needs. Its too risky to loans someone, whom yo know only i forum I mean no physical contact or meet each other.

I wonder why btcjam is in lending business and it seems they are ok, how much the payment rate?
Having a good capital, you can start a real lending business in your place but never do it online, when you do that in your place it is less risky as you can do things that would ensure that you borrower will be able to repay the loan, you can require your applicants to comply with the requirement prior releasing a loan that you cannot do it online.
1784  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 03, 2016, 05:18:20 AM
I have noticed so many players are just gambling for the sake of profits only. But majority of them loses most of the games eventually as they are not smart players.

So how should we gamble in a smart way so that we do not get more frustrations due to continuous losses?

Don't be dumb and try to avoid luck based games. Most of the time all these dumb strategies don't work and you end up losing a lot of your money, better play poker or sport bets
but i think most of the gambling game are based on luck, sports games are also 90% depend of luck and 10% involve your experience and skill. to me the smartest way of playing gambling is to play gambling in a limit and never try to exceed that limit. through this you can minimize the risk of loosing your all money and can manage to change your strategy about gambling when ever feel the need to do so.
if you can control yourself you will able to manage your capital and create one strategy to another giving yourself a chance to recover and earn little earnings from gambling and keep you away when you already satisfied from your winnings,.
Self control is really important as it is easy to produce your money to be use as bankroll in gambling, if you have the money but you do not have the self control that is required, it would be easy for you to lose your money and that is too risky for a certain gambler who aim to make profit.
1785  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: October 03, 2016, 05:10:24 AM
I would take the bitcoin because it has a good future and you can do multiple things with it too.
As a example you can do more terms with it, you can invest it as a long term but also as a short term too.
yeah compared to gold which has only two functions alone are jewelery and investment. bitcoin has many uses than gold, so I prefer to use bitcoin
Bitcoin is for the entire human race while gold is only for the rich people, if we will support bitcoin as our investment we are like saying that we are very positive that in the future bitcoin will be the mainstream currency and with that happening people will be benefited while we earn.
1786  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: October 03, 2016, 05:05:50 AM
Buy or develop your own time machine and go back to 2008 and mine BTC on the computer at your mothers house in the basement
here everyone to make money and want to become rich . but that person became rich who have big Network through sites and program . if you want became rich then you don't have need to make time machine and no need to go in past . just make your own site service .
There are many ways to become rich and not only you will be rich because you have a good business online, even in physical world there are also more opportunities so it depends on the on the interest and passion of a certain person and what investment or business he will focus to achieve his goal.
1787  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: October 03, 2016, 04:57:00 AM
If I have 10 btc or you give me 10 btc I will do a business in my country
or hold it for the future, because the price of bitcoin will be rise $1000 in the next years.

Thats good, when considered as a long term investment. In my view as the price of bitcoin has started to increase a little, will hold for few more days and will make a small profit through trading rather than waiting long days as anything can happen with bitcoin.
thinking wisely mate instead of keeps on waiting better to use it and invest for some alt trading that have big positive potentials to gain more.
Altcoins trading is for highly intelligent people because it is really hard to predict the price movement, they have less volume than bitcoins so it is easy to manipulate the price, on that scenario even how good are you in analyzing the chart, it would be hard for you if the market is manipulated.
1788  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 03, 2016, 04:52:24 AM
No, i am not become rich from gambling. And I am not sure that in future also I will not become rich from gambling. Because I will play only sports betting that too very low bet. and in gambling, the winning chances is very less. In slot games, i never made any profit, and I don't have any hope that I will make a profit in future.
buy i think no one know about the future therefore to predict about the future is not so easy, i also not rich from gambling but i know about some people who are really rich from gambling and still doing gambling and making money.
well yeah i dont know and no one knows what is going to happen in the future, im not rich from gambling and i never will be
maybe they already master their skills so possibly they keep on playing to win more and they control their self in order for them to keep winning
i think it is really hard to master that skills and so hard to  be rich in gambling it is just luck and hard work for them who does.
Gambling si the easiest way to play but the hardest way to win, if someone can win in the long run, I have to call him a gifted person because it is very rare it will happen, most of us loses in the long run just like the others. Gambling is not a professional for me so I will never be rich with it.

When you have a big bankroll and plays like professional gamblers (sharks) then you will become really rich when you are lucky enough. I said lucky enough because gambling is a based on pure luck (except games that requires skills like poker). However, if you have no strategies and is still new with gambling, then you will lose if you keep on playing on without calculated stop.
If a certain gambler can set up a huge bankroll, I call him as rich already.

Setting a big bankroll is necessary for a certain gambler if you are convince already that you can make money in gambling, and when based on your experience you already make a good record that would convince yourself to take it seriously.
1789  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin replaces the money? Could happen? on: October 03, 2016, 04:46:22 AM
you are right that you can't buy product directly spending btc but you can use it indirectly . while you have the option to spent bitcoin for Online product at purse.io . so i think in the coming days Bitcoin can replace the money .
You can actually buy online using bitcoin by the support of 3rd party, however if you are not living in a popular countries for businesses you will have to bear the huge shipping fee and tax, so there is no sense of buying online if it will be that expensive.
1790  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: October 03, 2016, 04:43:03 AM
the safest way to not loose your money is avoid gambling in the first place and there is no specific safe method to gamble unless and until you find a weakness or a hack and exploiting that.

Yup, avoiding gambling sites would mean safe for your money, nothing beats that...  But others don't do that since they are into gambling and might be obsess in winning big so they forgot about that way... Exploits are really safe, however there is no way that it would last long, gambling operators will always figure it out and patch, there is also a possibility that they might ban you from betting if they found out that you find an exploit and yet you keep on cheating...  Smiley

Gambling, just like in life as a whole, the winner is the one with most experiences and is wise enough to do the things that works and  not keep on doing things that isn't working. When you gamble and find a good strategy that you have the good odds against the casino, use it until it no longer works - which will eventually does because of the casino house edge.
I think that cannot be applied all the time, although we have been gambling for many years but still we cannot get the secret to win in gambling, I guess the way yo make money is not base on experience but base on the intellect of a certain gambler.
1791  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: October 03, 2016, 03:44:08 AM
yes , the same type of words i found on this forum when i was newbie here . some of topic proving that bitcoin is dead but when ranked my level time to time then i found that that threads are only for mking only a topic and no usual meaning . actually bitcoin can never goes dead . it ia very active .

I also heard that words in my start the more but after that when everyone started to talk about halving they forgot that bitcoin will ever die. I think it is because of halving and the price increase that people now have trust on bitcoin and do not say that bitcoin is died.
oh well i guess if you really trust bitcoin you will be happy if someone without knowledge about it say that because it can be a good opportunity for you to buy low cost btc from them and wait for a while then sell it in the price that you desire to profit.
The answer is if we really love bitcoin we will support it and we will never lost our trust whatever happens, we are the early adopters so it  really matters for the market of bitcoin and we will be part of the history of the success of bitcoin.
thats right mate we should continue to promote and help the community bitcoin success would make chain reaction for us and for those who will go along side with us, it is still profitable investment if we will able to maximize more possible ways to earn.
We can always do that and we are required to do that, even in little ways that could be a big help for bitcoin in overall so spread the good news so we will also succeed in the future, when people know about the wonder of bitcoin they will fully understand that bitcoin is not dead.
1792  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 02, 2016, 11:54:39 AM
betting willl never be wrong if you play only with faucet in my situatcion it is always win situation for me Smiley



Faucets are very time consuming and in return you earn very small amount, and if you earn money from faucets then you have to wait for many years to get some dollar so it is not a good option, try signature campaign it will give you some good amount. And gambling is wrong in the sense you can loose your money because winning chances are low.
Definitely I will not waste my time doing faucets, it's true that we all want money and we want to earn it but there are a lot of ways that you can use your skills and passion to earn a bigger amount and so you can also develop your skills. Do not do a job for the kids. Faucets are for kids to be frank.
1793  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: October 02, 2016, 11:51:35 AM
Hey guys,

I just spoke to a guy over chat who told me his plan was to get 100 BTC, wait for the price to reach $5k per BTC and retire after that. Since he lives in a third world county, that might be possible for him. I know this is a simplification of the problem but I d like to know what s your plan. How many BTC is your goal, at what price and what happens once you reach that goal. After all, we have all been involved in a dream, why not dream it a bit more.  Grin

My plan when I get reach in bitcoin I want to buy a bitcoin mining machine to earn more bitcoin, then I establish my own traditional business. Also buy a new house and lot with cars also. Then live happily ever after.

Well I guess that is not a plan to get rich, what you are planning is what you are going to do when you became rich. But having a mining farm is going to make you rich in bitcoin if you are just going to be consistent with it. But before you are going to have mining rigs, you must invest with the hardware and that is going to cost a lot.
Investing in a mining business is an expensive business so you need to be rich already to be able to start that business. That has no relevance to the topic because what we are talking is the method to become rich.
1794  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: October 02, 2016, 11:48:09 AM
iam choose bank to saving my money
Yeah there is a lot of people are choosing bank because bank is available in everywhere in the world and we can store our money easily in bank in any place but i hope that bitcoin will be also more going to advance like a bank account and it will be acceptable in everywhere .

It will surely happen some day in future but it will take long time as bitcoin is not too popular everywhere and the fact is people have more faith in banks as they are using it since long time.
i guess bitcoin wallet are pretty much better than banks
banks regulated by government and bitcoin wallet standalone decentralized
banks have a very slow service and bitcoin have a very fast service
so why you still want banks when you can rule your own bank with bitcoin wallet?
Well, we have our own choice, if we can use both why not use it. They have their own benefits from its clients and bitcoin for me is more on investment rather than a storage of my money, if I intend to save I would certainly choose bank.
if you talking about storing the whole of your money of course you can not choose bitcoin wallet
as bitcoin mostly considered as investment and thing to trade
but if you talking about how to store your money to make it productive
and bitcoin wallet is your choice , you may can see 1 bitcoin turn to 100 bitcoin
That is not possible to turn 1 BTC into 100 BTC by just storing your money because we we store it will not grow. But I get it, maybe you mean the value of our bitcoins will grow but not the volume.
I agree that the price of bitcoins will rise, but not the volume.
You can not change the volume the price is always depends in demand and supply not in volume..
For now we are expecting more investors will come in bitcoin so that the price will be more valuable..

That's why bitcoin is a better investment because there is no inflation as the if the demand will increase the price will also increase, with that fact, we should consider investing for the future because bitcoin is getting more popular now.
1795  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to tell your Girlfirend about BitcoiN?? on: October 02, 2016, 11:45:07 AM
hmm if you make big money on internet it can be so easy to do that but if you make poor amount of earnings like beginner i think nobody will trust you because for them earn money online is stupid and risky idea

That is a good point i guess, because if you make some good amount of bitcoins every month then it would be easy for you to tell your girlfriend about it so that she takes more interest in what you say when she hears that you earn a reasonable amount with it each month, because girls like money a lot Grin lol, they love shopping na.

The big question is? Does she intend to do the works  on earning bitcoin? FOr sure she wont since earning bitcoin isnt easy at all as we all know that and girls  dont  like to be  pressured and  dont like complicated things and  with these kind  of  things for sure they would still refuse to engage in bitcoin.

That's true and I think most of the girls are lazy and they don't want to make any efforts in earning it as they will prefer to get it for free and if not then they won't bother about bitcoins.

Well if we are talking about earning in bitcoin with girls i think yes theyy are lazy with doing this if they dont know bitcoin yet but i do have a friend girl which is she earn a lot from this. So i ain't conclude all of the girls that is lazy though some of girls yes.
Maybe you should educate here more about on what is bitcoin but I doubt they would be interested with bitcoin, it is not easy to them when that is not their interest and even though the amount of earning is very attractive, they cannot still do the job well because of lack of interest.
1796  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Doubling Bitcoin? on: October 02, 2016, 11:36:40 AM
I'm sort of new to bitcoin, I've made a couple bucks already from visiting ad sites, doing faucets, etc, but is there any other way to earn easy cash? Anyone got any suggestions?
Real money can be earned, even if you just learn to make the right phrase. But in order to earn a lot need a lot of labor.
I agree and it is need patience, hard work and consistent. Because there are not fast or easy ways for get money, everything in the world needs grapple and sacrifice for getting something.
Yes alot of patience is needed and things happen like that automatically.But if you thinking like that from the start thinking that you just wanna double your bitcoins,then you only gonna loose them.So its much better only to think about getting small amount of profits and not thinking about doubling the bitcoins.
Agreed that initially thinking about doubling the bitcoins is really not a good idea or even if we think like that then the only option is to do the gambling with them,and the money can be doubled but at the end its sure to loose all the bitcoins.
Even doubling the capital it is hard to double it. Yes you will have a higher income in it but not doubled it. It will take some time to say that you gain the amount that you needed to say it is doubled.



Don't agree, you can double your coins by different ways like you can double your coin by doing gambling but gambling is very risky so try the other option which is trading, in trading risk rate is very low and you can easily double your bitcoins if you are in touch with market and know how to do trading.

btc trading is low risk? How come? You have to invest bigger amounts for trading and if the price drops and stays there, you're fucked.
Well, that could be right if you compare that on investing in HYIP or PONZI scheme, at least in trading BTC we can make our study on the price and its market and that would give us some information on how to decided on our prediction, we are managing our own future unlike in HYIP.
1797  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin replaces the money? Could happen? on: October 02, 2016, 11:33:42 AM
Bitcoin is no substitute for the major currencies on the market. The first reason is that we need a real and material unit for communication between people.

You're absolutely right, bitcoin is not fully or not, could replace the existing currency. because the Foundation still owns the bitcoin is not good, and also the market doesn't yet have bitcoin well around the world. If it could be met by bitcoin, it likely could be performed by bitcoin
Actually bitcoin is good but not really good to replace the legal currency, the reason behind is that this digital currency is not regulated but the paper money are regulated, with that fact the bitcoin transaction cannot be trace by the government and they cannot collect taxes.
Tax is not the problem. I think it is easy for the government to develop a system which require people to pay bitcoin per transaction. For example, if people do not pay for the system, the government can easily sut down a hole internet, and bitcoin can not be sent without the network.

Even they are not going to create or develop a system the main thing that the government must do for replacing fiat money is by implementing it.

And if this is going to be implemented to a country that the people must use bitcoin as their primary currency so the people are just going to follow it.

That is the easiest thing that the government is going to do for replacing fiat.
System does not work without the trust of the people, like bitcoin we can say that the system is really good but without the trust of the people it will not succeed to have a massive adoption if you are expecting that it will attract at least more than 50% of the world population.
1798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: October 02, 2016, 11:30:39 AM
I mostly do sport betting rather than Dice or casino betting, it's hard to say a specific strategy but mostly not betting more than %5 of the bankroll in any bet regardless of how confident you are from it is the best strategy, Of course doing research and picking a good team is important as well..
you can apply a certain strategy on both sportsbetting and casino games but i doubt there would be a significat effect to your winning chance / possibility. in sportsbetting maybe you can get a better effect using startegy but i don't think so in casino games , you would feel like playing in same circle win-lost-lost-lost and lost.
Sports betting can give you more success in gambling than dice because with sports you can ensure that there is not manipulation of the outcome, you can see the game and witness it and you know what team has a good chance to win.
but even in sportsbetting the odds generator/maker would always be smarter than you , makes hard for everyone to win over bookies. at least you have a better chance here rather than on casino that always make you feel not fair and rigged.

That is the most challenging part in sportsbetting, how the odd are offered to us. It is also challenging especially that you have some martingale plan on let us say on the finals of a basketball game - it would be rare that the other team could beat its opponent without losing until championship, with this in mind, you are certain that you can use the martingale strategy however, along the way, you will be presented with odds that won't let you follow your system in terms of bets and profits.
yeah doing martingale in sporstbetting are sometimes feel really work as an event in sportsbetting very rare having a streaks lost , makes easier for you to applying the martingale betting system , but yeah sure it's doesn't mean you would have guaranteed to win everytime with thi strategy in sportsbetting , there always a lost and unlucky situation, don't expect too much.
Yeah, that is the easiest way to win in sports betting because games are manipulated or they call it a fixed game. Because of that reality, no team can lose with a longest streak because their franchise will be destroyed and they will not make profit anymore. Just choose a popular team on that matter.
1799  Economy / Services / Re: "Lykke- Signature & Avatar Campaign [OPEN]" on: October 02, 2016, 08:27:22 AM
What about escrow for this campaign ?
I believe this campaign is being run by new manager so I feel it is our responsibility to emphasize the importance of having escrow to manager and owners.
I am sure the applicants have already trusted the New manager because they are not complaining anymore. And you, as full member who are not qualified to apply for the campaign are now here having your complain. I think that is not right man..
1800  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: October 02, 2016, 08:23:48 AM
Gone are the days when already bitcoints was at this price. And the wait is reducing useless. These are dreams. Forget about it. The price will rise, not fall

Yes and even if it falls in coming months or years it will never fall that low, and if anyone is waiting to buy at that price then he is surely wasting his time as price will keep on rising in future.
From the time when I join bitcoin I saw a number of drops in price but also noticed that the price came back to where it was and I also noticed that the drop was not much deep so we do not have to think that we will ever see bitcoin at $100.
That is already a worst thing that would happen to the market of bitcoin, the whales cannot manipulate the price to that level anymore so if it would happen it is because the people loses its trust to bitcoin, although I do not see it happening again but there is still a possibility.
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