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181  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ask Amazon for Bitcoin Payments on: July 08, 2014, 09:32:00 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I've been buying Amazon gift cards and other items at Amazon (tracfone and airtime, etc.) with bitcoin at a 15-25% discount (!) thanks to Purse.io - well, around 13-23% discount once I replenish my BTC with fiat, but it's still a great deal.

You can check out Purse at my referral link (https://purse.io/?_r=XClu2O) - I really do endorse it. What happens is you create a wishlist at Amazon and then post it on Purse, with the percentage discount (up to 33%) that you want (yeah, it's nuts, but it works). I've gotten 3 items now with a 25% discount, but 15% is more normal. You can ask for whatever you want up to 33% off though. My bids have been accepted within a day or two, up to a week worst case. Your funds go into an escrow account once a bidder purchases your order and has it shipped to you. Once it arrives you confirm delivery and the funds are released.

The Purse operators even paid me $1 (in BTC) once when a deal fell through (due to Amazon's anti-fraud detectors going off on the bidder for some reason) and I asked about it, simply as a goodwill gesture.

Sounds like a neat idea, but also one which could end up with you getting a heavy knock on the door, when the police trace laundered drug money to people buying you gifts on Amazon and come to ask you what you know about it!
182  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 7 - 7 - 7 (Not for sheeple. Takes a doze of intelligence and concentration) on: July 08, 2014, 11:49:23 AM
Denying that "they" are using numerology is really stupid. I mean, come on.. 227 passengers on all 9/11 flights combined. 227 passengers on Flight 370.
I've already told you that isn't true, why are you repeating it?
That's what Wikipedia says, so that's what I will go With Smiley

No it isn't.
Wikipedia says:
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including the 227 civilians and 19 hijackers aboard the four planes

Who do you think was flying the planes? Not the passengers, but the crew, who are included in the 227 figure.
There were 239 civilians on flight 370.
183  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 7 - 7 - 7 (Not for sheeple. Takes a doze of intelligence and concentration) on: July 08, 2014, 11:08:23 AM
Denying that "they" are using numerology is really stupid. I mean, come on.. 227 passengers on all 9/11 flights combined. 227 passengers on Flight 370.

I've already told you that isn't true, why are you repeating it?
184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MZC] MazaCoin *National Currency of the Traditional Lakota Nation* | NEW THREAD on: July 08, 2014, 10:11:54 AM
These dimwits have no apparent link to the Navajo but have appropriated Navajo-style colors and design in their website and, obviously, the name.  They claim it is to "honor" the Navajo Codetalkers.  Yes "honor" the Navajo by using their name and cultural symbols for a cryptocoin that has nothing to do with the tribe (other than cashing in on its image).

Oh, the irony.
185  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Code as Law: How Bitcoin Could Decentralize the Courtroom on: July 07, 2014, 10:05:54 PM
Are the above laws of nature for only a few people here and there? Or are they COMMON among all people?

No government or body invented the common law at its basic foundation. Governments and people may claim that they did, but at best, they adopted the TRUE AND REAL common law. When they add other laws to it, they are making civil law.



They really got you kids brainwashed, don't they? Or are you guys part of the movement to keep us in bondage?

Smiley

You need to try to work out whether you think you are talking about what is or what should be.
Because in the real world, the one that is, you don't get to avoid the consequences of your actions by just saying you don't agree to subject to the law. No matter how much you redefine the phrase common law, it simply doesn't have the effect that you seem to think it does.
Try it and see.
186  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 7 - 7 - 7 (Not for sheeple. Takes a doze of intelligence and concentration) on: July 07, 2014, 10:03:18 PM
I'm taking my numbers straight from wikipedia, unchanged.

Regarding 9/11:
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In total, almost 3,000 people died in the attacks, including the 227 civilians and 19 hijackers aboard the four planes

In which case you are including flight crew for the 9/11 planes, but not for flight 370, so they don't match anyway, do they?
The equivalent number for flight 370 would be 239.

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Regarding Flight 370:
3/7 2014 was the date it took off, according to wikipedia. Where in the world? I don't know, didn't bother to check.

It took off at 8/3/2014 00:41 in Malaysia.

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Why use MYT? Why does Wikipedia use MYT? I don't know. Didn't bother to ask them.

From Wikipedia:
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At 02:25:27 MYT, the aircraft's satellite communication system sent a 'log-on request' message
and
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18:25:27 UTC – 1st handshake (initiated by MH370)

So you just picked the one that gave the answer you wanted, and ignored the other.

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"Why not any other 2252blah"

Because it has nothing to do With reality, that's why. Number 2277 has a strong Connection to something that is happening right now, in reality. It's References and hints to stuff. Perhaps for someone in the know it is more of a science, I don't know.

So you knew you wanted to get 2277, and manipulated the numbers until you did.

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It's References and hints to stuff

No it isn't, that is the mystically bullshity part.
You have deliberately sampled only the numbers that suited your argument, then manipulated them in a specific way, which has no justification other that to give the result you wanted, then claim it shows some deep meaning. It doesn't.
187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Code as Law: How Bitcoin Could Decentralize the Courtroom on: July 07, 2014, 08:46:58 PM
Are the above laws of nature for only a few people here and there? Or are they COMMON among all people?

No government or body invented the common law at its basic foundation. Governments and people may claim that they did, but at best, they adopted the TRUE AND REAL common law. When they add other laws to it, they are making civil law.

188  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Code as Law: How Bitcoin Could Decentralize the Courtroom on: July 07, 2014, 07:01:49 PM
my example was just about how to log the verdict. no need to knit pick the finer details of jury's discussions before they vote, or judges powers after.. it was simply to show that logging the verdict is as simple as sending coin to an address.

How is that 'simple', compared to just asking the jury?

because.....

title: How Bitcoin Could Decentralize the Courtroom

allows not 12 selectively chosen people to be jurers, but anyone in the UK watching a court trial via live streaming can become a jurer..

and send their 'vote' remotely

Sigh. This is just too silly. The system you describe is Britain's got Talent or Big Brother, not the legal system.
As someone above said, why not just use it as money, why the desperate attempt to see Bitcoin as the solution to every problem in the universe?
You could make all communication by embedded messages in the blockchain, but why not just use email?
189  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 7 - 7 - 7 (Not for sheeple. Takes a doze of intelligence and concentration) on: July 07, 2014, 06:54:42 PM
If a comet is falling on Your head but you see that the Word "Religion" is printed on it.. do you not believe the comet is real?  Cheesy

Numerology is a way to convert/compress numbers, as said, giving a number or Word another meaning. Sort of an early cryptography.

Numerology includes believing that those converted numbers somehow have magically gained special meaning, or that the fact that two different sets of input map to the same output implies some sort of connection between them. Nothing to so with science of any sort.

Well that's not what I believe/want you to believe.

Yet it is exactly what you then try to argue:

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Ok, look.. 227 passengers on both Flight 370(a flight taking off 3/7) and all 9/11 flights combined. Is that not a strange coincidence?

a) If it were true, it would indeed be a coincidence.
b) It doesn't appear to be true. Where are you getting the 227 figure for 9/11 flights from?
c) Flight 370 only took off on 3/7 if you are American. In most of the rest of the world it took off on 7/3. And in Malaysian time, it took off on 8/3.

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At 02:25:27 MYT, the aircraft's satellite communication system sent a 'log-on request' message—

You use MYT here, but used UCT or EST above.
Why? Because it makes the numbers fit the pattern you are looking for.
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02: 25: 27
2    2 52  7
22  7  7
2277

2277 = Russian Aggression Prevension Act
Why not:
2 25 27
2 7 9
279 = H.R.279 - To amend the Act of June 18, 1934, to reaffirm the authority of the Secretary of the Interior to take land into trust for Indian tribes, and for other purposes.

Or
2 25 2 7
2727 = H.R.2727 - To amend the Land and Water Conservation Fund Act of 1965 to provide that not less than 40 percent of amounts available from the fund under that Act shall be available for the Land and Water Conservation Fund State Assistance Program.

Or
22 5 27
459 = S.459 - Minuteman Missile National Historic Site Boundary Modification Act
Or H.Res.459 - Providing for the consideration of the bill (H.R. 3372) to provide a process for ensuring the United States does not default on its obligations.
Or S.Res.459 - A resolution expressing the sense of the Senate with respect to childhood stroke and recognizing May 2014 as "National Pediatric Stroke Awareness Month"

Or many other possible combinations? Because you are trying to find connections.
How many other messages did the system send?
How many possible permutations of numbers do they include?
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Also containing a meaning in terms of numerology where both 22 and 77 is multi-symbolic
Exactly the sort of garbage you said you weren't interested in.
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Probably a planned date as the Lagarde video is talking about. "Don't know if its G7 or G20". G = 7th letter. "Dont know if its 7/7 or 7/20, so somewhere between that date perhaps?

Perhaps 22 July 2014
                   7      7

And now you arrange dates as d/m, whereas above you used m/d. Because you are trying to create a connection.
We only have 10 digits, so with a little manipulation you can create all sorts of coincidences. So what?
190  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Code as Law: How Bitcoin Could Decentralize the Courtroom on: July 07, 2014, 06:37:12 PM
Thank you for responding, however. Even though you are trying to throw some bad light on the REAL common law by advocating that I am wrong about it, your posts are keeping this topic near the top of the forum, where lots more people will get a chance to view it. Some of them will use Karl's info to beat the "system."

I bet they won't.
If you actually try to apply any of his ideas, you'll see exactly how far you get.
He either believes what he says, in which case he is a fool, or doesn't, in which case he is a charlatan.
If you break the law of the land and get caught, you will be fined/locked up as appropriate, regardless of whether you recognize their jurisdiction or not.

When people talk about 'common law countries', or 'common law jurisdictions', they mean places whose legal systems are based on the English one. That is what the term means. If you want to say something else, you should use a different term. There is nothing about the English common law system which says that you are only obliged to follow those laws you 'contractually' agree to.
191  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 7 - 7 - 7 (Not for sheeple. Takes a doze of intelligence and concentration) on: July 07, 2014, 05:34:52 PM
If a comet is falling on Your head but you see that the Word "Religion" is printed on it.. do you not believe the comet is real?  Cheesy


Numerology is a way to convert/compress numbers, as said, giving a number or Word another meaning. Sort of an early cryptography.

Numerology includes believing that those converted numbers somehow have magically gained special meaning, or that the fact that two different sets of input map to the same output implies some sort of connection between them. Nothing to so with science of any sort.
192  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Code as Law: How Bitcoin Could Decentralize the Courtroom on: July 07, 2014, 05:04:25 PM
Probably the most important words in this topic are "code as Law." Here's why.

The United States, Canada and Britain, along with Australia, are common law nations. The CODE is not computer program scripting. Rather, it is the so-called laws that are made by governments.

That is exactly the wrong definition of common law.
Common law is that which does not derive from any known government statute, but from historical usage and previous court decisions.
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Common law (also known as case law or precedent) is law developed by judges through decisions of courts and similar tribunals, as opposed to statutes adopted through the legislative process or regulations issued by the executive branch.

There are very few common law offences left in most common law countries, they having been replaced with statutory equivalents.

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IF A PERSON IN A COMMON LAW COUNTRY HAS NOT CONTRACTUALLY AGREED TO THE CODES OF A GOVERNMENT, THEN THE CODE DOES NOT APPLY TO HIM AS A LAW.

This is, it should hardly need to be said, wrong.

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Under common law, if you haven't entered into agreements with government by what you have said or signed, the only laws you are obligated to obey are:
1. Harm nobody;
2. Don't damage any property that is not yours;
3. Fulfill your contractual obligations.
That's it, PERIOD. The courts get you through #3. NOTE: If you are incorporated with a corporation, you are in contract with government who gave you permission to incorporate.

As is this.
What is it that you think the phrase 'common law' means?

Common law is essentially tradition, and usually local tradition. Its greatest formal example is in the Maxims of Law, which can be found in many places on the Internet, such as http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/bouvier/maxims.shtml.

You wrote: The United States, Canada and Britain, along with Australia, are common law nations
'Common Law' used here means the English common law system, used by many ex-colonies and others, as opposed to civil law jurisdictions, such as France.
It predates the link you have given by many hundreds of years.
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Common law
Since 1189, English law has been described as a common law rather than a civil law system; in other words, no major codification of the law has taken place and judicial precedents are binding as opposed to persuasive. This may be a legacy of the Norman conquest of England, when a number of legal concepts and institutions from Norman law were introduced to England. In the early centuries of English common law, the justices and judges were responsible for adapting the system of writs to meet everyday needs, applying a mixture of precedent and common sense to build up a body of internally consistent law. An example is the Law Merchant derived from the "Pie-Powder" Courts, named from a corruption of the French pieds-poudrés ("dusty feet") implying ad hoc marketplace courts. As the Parliament of England became ever more established and influential, legislation gradually overtook judicial law-making such that today, judges are only able to innovate in certain very narrowly defined areas.

In 1276, the concept of "time immemorial" often applied in common law was defined as being any time before 6 July 1189 (i.e. before Richard I's accession to the English throne).

The link you have given is not a definition of common law.

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Listen to the way Karl says it in the websites in my post above. Check the law out. Realize that codes are not law except that a person agrees that they are law for him

This is just as wrong as if I were to say that gravity doesn't affect me unless I agree it does.
Commit a crime and get caught, and you will be punished, however loudly you claim that the law doesn't apply to you.

This...
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IF A PERSON IN A COMMON LAW COUNTRY HAS NOT CONTRACTUALLY AGREED TO THE CODES OF A GOVERNMENT, THEN THE CODE DOES NOT APPLY TO HIM AS A LAW.
...is rubbish. It is simply wrong.
193  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Code as Law: How Bitcoin Could Decentralize the Courtroom on: July 07, 2014, 01:12:54 PM
my example was just about how to log the verdict. no need to knit pick the finer details of jury's discussions before they vote, or judges powers after.. it was simply to show that logging the verdict is as simple as sending coin to an address.

How is that 'simple', compared to just asking the jury?
194  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Code as Law: How Bitcoin Could Decentralize the Courtroom on: July 07, 2014, 01:12:15 PM
Probably the most important words in this topic are "code as Law." Here's why.

The United States, Canada and Britain, along with Australia, are common law nations. The CODE is not computer program scripting. Rather, it is the so-called laws that are made by governments.

That is exactly the wrong definition of common law.
Common law is that which does not derive from any known government statute, but from historical usage and previous court decisions.
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Common law (also known as case law or precedent) is law developed by judges through decisions of courts and similar tribunals, as opposed to statutes adopted through the legislative process or regulations issued by the executive branch.

There are very few common law offences left in most common law countries, they having been replaced with statutory equivalents.

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IF A PERSON IN A COMMON LAW COUNTRY HAS NOT CONTRACTUALLY AGREED TO THE CODES OF A GOVERNMENT, THEN THE CODE DOES NOT APPLY TO HIM AS A LAW.

This is, it should hardly need to be said, wrong.

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Under common law, if you haven't entered into agreements with government by what you have said or signed, the only laws you are obligated to obey are:
1. Harm nobody;
2. Don't damage any property that is not yours;
3. Fulfill your contractual obligations.
That's it, PERIOD. The courts get you through #3. NOTE: If you are incorporated with a corporation, you are in contract with government who gave you permission to incorporate.

As is this.
What is it that you think the phrase 'common law' means?
195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: July 07, 2014, 08:32:47 AM
For those who would argue that Q1/Q2 delivery means end of Q2;

It does.

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why would they include the "Q1/" if that was the intention?

To encourage the gullible to believe that they would ship earlier than the last possible date.
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X15 MaiaCoin ◀► The best x15 PoW/PoS ◀► Now On Bittrex! on: July 04, 2014, 09:57:51 AM
This block info looks normal... nothing wrong going on. The block payout is 505 coins, 5 to this donation address. The rest are coins that were sent/received in that block.

https://github.com/mammix2/MaiaCoin/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L985

The block payout is clearly 500, not 505:
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Proof of Work: 500 coins generated
[...]
2ad76f79eb...   0   0.164   Generation: 500 + 0.0001 total fees   MNq44J5eU1QUZZpXRKDgtxBidFyiETz5WX: 495.000099
MBKVCNHtGHdtxA5jfpYnaibCeYR25UpwUY: 5.000001


Edit:
It appears that the code allows you to create blocks with less than the maximum reward, it only checks that you don't create more:
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   if (IsProofOfWork())
    {
        int64_t nReward = GetProofOfWorkReward(nFees);
        // Check coinbase reward
        if (vtx[0].GetValueOut() > nReward)
            return DoS(50, error("ConnectBlock() : coinbase reward exceeded (actual=%"PRId64" vs calculated=%"PRId64")",
                   vtx[0].GetValueOut(),
                   nReward));
    }

    if(IsProofOfWork())
    {
        CBitcoinAddress address(!fTestNet ? FOUNDATION : FOUNDATION_TEST);
        CScript scriptPubKey;
        scriptPubKey.SetDestination(address.Get());
        if (vtx[0].vout[1].scriptPubKey != scriptPubKey)
            return error("ConnectBlock() : coinbase does not pay to the dev address)");
        if (vtx[0].vout[1].nValue < devCoin)
            return error("ConnectBlock() : coinbase does not pay enough to dev addresss");
    }

So this bug only allows a miner to give themselves fewer coins that they should have earned, not more.
Similarly, it allows for more to be sent to the dev address, but not fewer.
Hard to see that as a real problem for the coin.

Conclusion is that there is a badly configured pool which is earning 1% less for its miners that it should be.
197  Economy / Speculation / Re: Tim Draper to Do Press Conference about Winning Silk Road Auction 2pm PST on: July 03, 2014, 03:11:12 PM
When some technology reaches a critical threshold of adoption, it becomes too big to fail. Internet is too big to fail and potentially the same can be said for Bitcoin.

This is how terms are coined. Idiot once meant a person with a neutral opinion on something but not any more because someone like me decided to start using it in other context. There are no patents for coined terms and their meanings. I am free to mutate any term I want if I find the new definition more proper. "Too big to fail" should be a much broader term and without the stench of government bailouts.

Many people, especially uptight "scientists", would hate me for that but the feelings are mutual as some branches of science are grotesquely inbreeding themselves. Informally speaking, I'd ask them: "Do you guys fuck all your cousins or just the ones you find attractive?"

nothing physical is too big to fail, including bitcoin network.
internet as an idea of connecting and sharing will never fail, but alot of internet companies were replaced for better ones, and just as easy, bitcoin idea could live on on some new platform under a new name, and bitcoin itself could die.

That's so obvious I wonder why you even cared to say it out.  If you want to take that route, I'd suggest you contact the authors of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Too_big_to_fail and keep saying them the same you just told me (nothing physical is too big to fail). I hope you see the parallel.

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The "too big to fail" theory asserts that certain financial institutions are so large and so interconnected that their failure would be disastrous to the economy, and they therefore must be supported by government when they face difficulty.

That absolutely does not apply to Bitcoin.
If all miners switched off tomorrow, no more transactions were processed, and the BTC/USD price fell to zero, would it have any noticeable affect on the economy, let alone a disastrous one? No, it wouldn't.
198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MZC] MazaCoin *National Currency of the Traditional Lakota Nation* | NEW THREAD on: July 02, 2014, 03:32:15 PM
BTC is 5 years old project with same "olderly" as MZC should BTC stay at 0,5 dollars ( almost same marketcap with number of coins) so there is really no difference

BTC is being used, and therefore has perceived value.
MazaCoin isn't, and so doesn't.

do you all listen yourself? Mazacoin is 3 months old project ( Bitcoin in that age had no value, nonone use it and noone care about it - 1 pizza take 10 000BTC it´s more than 1 000 000MZC compared about numbers of maximum coin so MZC have bigger value than BTC in that age ..wake up all)

BTC is the virtual currency, it has the history, the press, and what little adoption there is.
There are dozens, if not hundreds, of altcoins now, and no rational reason to think that any of them (or at least any of the simple clones) will ever amount to anything.
At the current price of 20 satoshis, the entire 50M coin premine is worth 10 BTC, or about $6500.
Why would a tribe, having decided to use a virtual currency in the first place, decide (acting rationally) to use MazaCoin, rather than just spending $6500 to create their own 'National Reserve' and 'Tribal Trust'?
The only point was the premine. The premine is now almost worthless. So what is the point?
199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MZC] MazaCoin *National Currency of the Traditional Lakota Nation* | NEW THREAD on: July 02, 2014, 02:58:49 PM
BTC is 5 years old project with same "olderly" as MZC should BTC stay at 0,5 dollars ( almost same marketcap with number of coins) so there is really no difference

BTC is being used, and therefore has perceived value.
MazaCoin isn't, and so doesn't.
200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUR] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland on: July 01, 2014, 01:18:40 PM
The respectable Media is talking about Aurora http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27867781
It's the good fundamental signal, at least you have to look after this coin....

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The krona has halved in value since the banking crisis of 2008
Auroracoin has lost 99.9%  of it's value since March.

What to choose ,  what to choose?

I choose AUR, because the loss of value is a result of the free market. The loss of value of the krona is a result of central authority decisions.

So you can be poor but morally superior?
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