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181  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Here is how i deal with users who steal my bitcoins on: October 29, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
0.005btc, dang your giving away $1 per customer, of course it will get abused. mining on a 60Ghash avalon would take a couple hours to earn $1

there are people out there that have programmed an app to sign up to some easy sign up mail service and all that is required of them is to do the captcha manually (taking 2 seconds per account).  so lets say that they can make 15 twitter accounts and follow each other in 15 minutes then that is the equivalent to a 500Ghash unit.(60$ an hour). for something of this 'reward' you will always get scammers,

instead of giving out BTC, it would be better to offer 'free rolls' not using blockchain coins.. which will reduce the withdrawals without plays, but still getting people to use your service.

make it like a tutorial/fun section, get them to play the game and learn how to use it. and once its done they qualify for 'play for real' feature where they would go back to a 0 balance and deposit their own funds.

another addition could be that if after X wins on 'play for real' they have a chance to get their 'fun/tutorial' winnings added to their 'play for real' pot, but thats something that you would have to work out

Hey thanks for the suggestions, I think without real money, dice game no longer has it's excitement though, but you have some good ideas and we will look into them.
182  Other / Meta / Re: How come there is no Japanese local forum? on: October 29, 2013, 09:00:48 AM
Sadly, there aren't enough Japanese-only speakers to warrant a whole section!

If you're in Japan or just want to chat with Japanese-speaking bitcoiners, join the Tokyo Bitcoin Group on Facebook.

Japan has a huge population and Satoshi (might be japanese). I'm surprised there aren't many japanese people here, whereas german russian spanish and chinese sections are pretty big.
183  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Idea for a mixer that can't run with your coins on: October 29, 2013, 08:58:43 AM
Then what about creating multiple wallets and send funds between it back and forth? As long as it's local, you are not sending the coins to anyone else but yourself.

Picture a huge expanse of desert sand. In the middle of the sand is thousands of footprints crossing in every direction. Surely no-one could ever identify these indistinct and commingled tracks!

But our FBI investigator is smarter than that, and observes that while the middle of the sand is confusing, there is a clear border of untouched virgin sand, unmarred except for a single set of footprints entering, and a single set of footprints exiting...

but as number of these footprint increases (number of wallet used), it'll look more just like a big patch of transactions, rather than a patch of footprint in the middle of the desert no?
184  Other / Meta / How come there is no Japanese local forum? on: October 29, 2013, 08:39:59 AM
Why isn't there a japanese section on bitcointalk?
185  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Idea for a mixer that can't run with your coins on: October 29, 2013, 06:33:59 AM
Why can't you add a feature to bitcoin-qt to generate say 100 addresses and randomly send funds back and forth a bunch of times. It'll cost some transaction fees but then wouldn't it mix the coins up pretty good?
No, that does basically nothing but waste network capacity. It's readily apparent in a transaction graph where the funds came from and went.

Then what about creating multiple wallets and send funds between it back and forth? As long as it's local, you are not sending the coins to anyone else but yourself.
186  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Idea for a mixer that can't run with your coins on: October 29, 2013, 06:23:49 AM
Why can't you add a feature to bitcoin-qt to generate say 100 addresses and randomly send funds back and forth a bunch of times. It'll cost some transaction fees but then wouldn't it mix the coins up pretty good?
187  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security on: October 29, 2013, 05:54:12 AM
Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.

Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet.

Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post.

Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users.

What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out.

Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase?

no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did.

The thing is that you (almost) copied coinbase's statement word for word.

for the bug bounty program?

Well I noticed that your security page is very similar to Coinbase's and someone else noticed the bug thing.

The security page I typed everything 100% myself (hence all the grammar and spelling mistakes people found earlier). I didn't write anything that was not true.

ok... That clears things up... Just out of curiosity though, how and why do you send money all over the world, and to banks? What if you need some of it?

How it works is each bitcoin wallet has a private key (the file which allows you to control the wallet). If you write the down the key, it looks something like this: "544VdNCEzTh3fLz3", on a piece of paper, and store it in a bank vault. You will ensure that in the case where your computer dies, you can go to the bank vault, take out the piece of paper, go on a new computer, download bitcoin wallet and type in the private key "544VdNCEzTh3fLz3" and restore the coins. It's a safety feature to avoid loss of funds due to hardware failures.

OK. I see... You have access to the funds, but just in case the private key is written down and in a vault, right?

yes
188  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security on: October 29, 2013, 05:20:46 AM
Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.

Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet.

Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post.

Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users.

What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out.

Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase?

no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did.

The thing is that you (almost) copied coinbase's statement word for word.

for the bug bounty program?

Well I noticed that your security page is very similar to Coinbase's and someone else noticed the bug thing.

The security page I typed everything 100% myself (hence all the grammar and spelling mistakes people found earlier). I didn't write anything that was not true.

ok... That clears things up... Just out of curiosity though, how and why do you send money all over the world, and to banks? What if you need some of it?

How it works is each bitcoin wallet has a private key (the file which allows you to control the wallet). If you write the down the key, it looks something like this: "544VdNCEzTh3fLz3", on a piece of paper, and store it in a bank vault. You will ensure that in the case where your computer dies, you can go to the bank vault, take out the piece of paper, go on a new computer, download bitcoin wallet and type in the private key "544VdNCEzTh3fLz3" and restore the coins. It's a safety feature to avoid loss of funds due to hardware failures.
189  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security on: October 29, 2013, 04:59:19 AM
Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.

Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet.

Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post.

Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users.

What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out.

Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase?

no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did.

The thing is that you (almost) copied coinbase's statement word for word.

for the bug bounty program?

Well I noticed that your security page is very similar to Coinbase's and someone else noticed the bug thing.

The security page I typed everything 100% myself (hence all the grammar and spelling mistakes people found earlier). I didn't write anything that was not true.
190  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Here is how i deal with users who steal my bitcoins on: October 29, 2013, 04:06:46 AM
All that work for 0.005 BTC? They probably figure they could setup 50 or so accounts and get lucky. Nice going though. That last sentence cracked me up.

Yeah I can't believe how much work they would do for 0.005btc too!
191  Economy / Securities / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] 0% Investor Commission! | Multiple Languages | Invest or Play on: October 29, 2013, 04:04:18 AM


Yeah i don't know why you are still here, not sure what you are getting out of it.
192  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security on: October 29, 2013, 04:00:53 AM
Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.

Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet.

Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post.

Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users.

What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out.

Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase?

no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did.

The thing is that you (almost) copied coinbase's statement word for word.

for the bug bounty program?
193  Economy / Securities / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] 0% Investor Commission! | Multiple Languages | Invest or Play on: October 29, 2013, 02:37:22 AM
this is how you talk to your "investors" ?  
What a pos CEO you are !
vvvv YOU HAVE EARNED THIS ONE!


yup still feel sorry for you

yes you got me, once again I get burned by some scumbag wannabe CEO operating out of his garage! whats new...  Roll Eyes

not much new, still feeling sorry for you.
194  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security on: October 29, 2013, 02:35:12 AM
Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.

Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet.

Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post.

Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users.

What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out.

Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase?

no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did.


Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users.

What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out.

What ? There must be some misunderstanding somewhere. Here is the relevant part from the previous reply that hints I'm not talking about hosting your server at a specific place: "The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site."

These couple of places I'm talking about are companies with actual security policies, I'm certainly not talking about hosting companies offering VPS, VDS, dedicated, etc.. Security doesn't get fixed by changing your hosting company.

oh ok yeah there was a mis understanding.
195  Economy / Securities / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] 0% Investor Commission! | Multiple Languages | Invest or Play on: October 29, 2013, 02:17:19 AM
this is how you talk to your "investors" ?  
What a pos CEO you are !
vvvv YOU HAVE EARNED THIS ONE!


yup still feel sorry for you
196  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security on: October 29, 2013, 02:14:14 AM
Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.

Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet.

Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post.

Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users.

What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out.
197  Economy / Service Discussion / Here is how i deal with users who steal my bitcoins on: October 29, 2013, 01:56:41 AM
http://blog.ice-dice.com/post/65390305396/heres-how-i-fight-with-users-who-steal
198  Economy / Securities / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] 0% Investor Commission! | Multiple Languages | Invest or Play on: October 29, 2013, 01:50:24 AM




Ice-Dice.com is a provably fair Bitcoin dice game. Win Bitcoins by rolling a number between the two numbers you chose!

There are three ways to earn bitcoins here:

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2.Refer players ( 50% of our house edge is paid as commissions! )

3. Invest in the bank ( Statistically profitable! ) Now we charge 0% commission! You will get the full 1% house edge for the bank (the other 1% is for referral). The site will make money from the referral bonus of players who didn't get referred.

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your scheme is best explained in detail here :


http://www.sec.gov/answers/pumpdump.htm

Hey Rob (ASICSRUS), why don't you get a life and do something productive for once!



contact Bryan Deakin he will break it down for you if you are that stupid!lol

I feel sorry for you wasting your life trolling on the internet.
199  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security on: October 29, 2013, 01:49:10 AM
Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

no, it's just a piece of paper with the private key of the wallet stored in multiple banks.

Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.

Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet.

Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

Whats there to explain? Coinbase knows whats up and I'm learning from them.
200  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security on: October 29, 2013, 12:11:57 AM
there is nothing safe about this site the owner doesn't pay out, cannot be trusted ...he will steal your bitcoins

Hey troll, why don't you show some proof before you blackmail and spread false claims? I'm disgusted by people like you on the internet, karma is going to get you one day.

You typo'ed "vulnerability" in the very last paragraph of that page Smiley

"as well as physical paper wallets in bank vaults"
"Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers"

Thanks Fixed!



>>mixing illegal money will get you caught up, maybe someday you will regret encouraging people to use your site for this activity<<






Hey ASICSRUS, why don't you stop making new accounts to troll and start doing something productive and contribute to the community? I'm ashamed of people like you on the internet. Bitcoin deserves better.
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