If you claim the a monopoly government is necessary to prevent the predation of the disadvantaged by the powerful, then I ask, howz that workin out for you so far?
Here's a question: let's say you could, for the rest of your life, commit 30% of your income and savings to charitable organizations of your choice, with a certain amount required to go to basic needs charities, in exchange for never paying taxes on anything ever again. Would you say yes? If that's too much, what's the maximum you'd go up to? My maximum is zero percent. It's my money. If I am forced to be charitable, it's not really charity, is it? How much freedom would you be willing to give up for freedom? Your question makes no sense. I fear you are mistaking money for freedom. your freedom is always measured by the freedom of the people living around you. |
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How lovely the world must look like to the stubbornly naive...
Can't believe I'm turning into the statist here, considering that in he outside world I tend to take the opposite role, but so much simplification and ideologically motivated misrepresentations of reality have that effect.
Hey, I know what I'll do: I'll just warm up my earlier point: how come those pretty "socialist" states like Sweden, Switzerland, The Netherlands outperform (on pretty much every metric) more economically permissive countries like the US?
To point out a few differences- distance, NSA, military. all are MASSIVE economic drains. Then there is scale. 5 mil people vs 300, or whatever the case may be. arenīt you guys a bit off-topic here? or am I missing some link to price movement? |
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Well, it looks totally legit to me. I think you should open the attachment!
well apart from spelling hick-ups it contains ("replay"), it also arrived at an email adress of mine which is absolutely never used for anything bitcoin. I just do wonder how this adress got targeted. They must have a database with peoples real names in it (the email adress is firstname.lastname@...). |
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I got an email today claiming to be coming from bitstamp. It is rather fishy as it arrived at an email adress I never ever used for anything bitcoin related. Maybe some of you got that same thing or are about to get it.  |
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I just withdrew some btc from bitstamp to bitcoin.de.
the btc left bitstamp and are now collecting confirmations (2 4 right now) on the bitcoin.de side, but
(BUT) the transaction is simply not showing up on blockchain.info
any ideas out there?
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if you really want to know how it is pronounced, I suggest you ask some cardplaying people...
mt. is usually the abbreviation for "mountain", but here it is obvious, that it stands for "Magic The..." ("...Online Exchange).
Here in Vienna we have a nice example of abbreviations pronounced differently than it is supposed. There is a big busline company which is called "DrRichard" which is written on the sides of the busses. Also in german "Dr." before a persons name gives you a "doctor". Well itsjust that the founders first name wasnt as much as promising as a title. His name is "Dragan"...
Long story short - itīs "em-tea gox".
donīt you worry too much. In 12 weeks there will be no more need for this knowledge anyway.
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Bailouts, even in the form you're suggesting, are counter to what decentralized networks are all about. Decentralized networks are superior because you don't have to bail out, or save any one entity. If an arm or a leg dies and falls off, the organism grows new ones back, and continues thriving. Bailouts are a mentality for the legacy centralized financial system where specific entities are needed so the whole system doesn't collapse. Bitcoin was created for the explicit purpose of not needing such a process. Bitcoin doesn't need to bail out MtGox. Its just a limb that can fall off. The organism will continue to thrive. All this babble in the media about Bitcoins reputation being harmed for "years to come" is just that. Babbling nonsense. Highly recommend everyone watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc1ZFTnSSVM-B- this. |
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I agree with everything, but if you think gox should be blamed on customers ,youre an idiot.
itīs not the customers who stayed around for so long, itīs only their greed which is to blame. some see bitcoin as a revolution in the way we do business without state and banks only based on trust. others just think they can get rich without working. now which of the those two types had any (any) balance on mtgox recently? |
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Man, how do you accidentally lose three-quarter million bitcoins and not notice. It's like sleeping through Hiroshima and not noticing anything different when you wake up.
it is very sensible to put the japan context into your comparison. |
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Looks like 38BTC gone. I knew better but trading was fun.
now thatīs the spirit  happy to say I got all out 2 weeks ago (fiat) and btc end of jan. |
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Most reliable exchange in Europe is bitcoin.de . It's very secure, customers are very satisfied for nearly three years - no hacks, no un-announced pauses, no delayed withdrawls. bitcoin.de is compliant with german law, the ceo is well known in the bitcoin-scene and beyond as a founder and businessmen, bitcoin.de persuaded the fidor bank to cooperate with bitcoin-companies, the support is famous to be fast - so yes, there is at least one really reliable exchange already.
I hear only good feedback about bitcoin.de lately. I think I should try them. There must at least one reliable service. but please be aware that on bitcoin.de the trades are directly person to person. the exchange just keeps the btc in escrow. no fiat ever is transfered to the xchange itself. |
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Leaving mtgox and mk out of the picture. What have we got in the btc community? Some decent and working exchanges where you can buy and sell btc. A rapidly growing number of shops and service providers willing to be paid in btc. Fast paced innovations for any kind of aspect of the btc ecosystem (security/workflows/...) A number of governments not directly opposed to btc. Why cant we not just get gox out of the game? bitcoincharts pages simply dont display it alongside the healthy and functional exchanges. and a giant warning to all new to the btc world. All those with funds still locked in: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483777.0ok. you might say, Iīm a dreamer. |
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nice of you putting this up.
there must be someone with enough funds locked and too little trust and patience left to go for it.
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it probably depends on what specific btc aspect you are interested in. if you want to be "just" informed in a timely manner - the forum here is best. if you want to know stuff before it gets posted here you can listen in on the irc channels suiting your interest. if you want to be even ahead of that you might fly to japan and try to bribe mk with sweet coffee  but so get at least one answer in the form you were expecting: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/ |
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bitstamp is it for me. kraken seems to go well too and also bitcoin.de ( https://www.bitcoin.de/de/r/kbrt22 if you want to make me rich kraken and bitcoin.de are operators for the same german bank (fidor) btw. |
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Herr Andreas ist da. und hoffentlich auch im metalab am 4.3. bis bald! |
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