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181  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trump vs. Biden is almost like Bitcoin vs Fiat on: June 04, 2024, 07:33:56 PM
Because Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden.

Hence it was 500% less when Trump left office.
Um, let me remind you: Bitcoin went from $1000 to $36,000 during Trump's presidency. That's 3500% up. If you want to resort to this soundbite, at least make sure it doesn't work in the other way around.

Trump's written platform makes it clear his administration will consider abortion to be "murder", and they outline a massive new police force that will be necessary to eliminate abortions in the USA.
I'm trying to see the connection with Bitcoin here.

Uh.... sure. I guess if you get your news from the Kremlin, that's what you'd think, right?
Alright, then, what's the source of the truth, according to the Democrats you?  Roll Eyes

That's the article I remember reading: https://www.reuters.com/legal/bankman-fried-used-customer-funds-100-mln-us-political-donations-prosecutors-say-2023-08-14/. I agree that it might be fake news, but where can I verify it?
182  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / How does Bitcoin Core estimate the time left until synced? on: June 04, 2024, 07:08:02 PM
Given the current block height, and given the announced chain tip from other nodes, how does it estimate when it will finish syncing? There is no known time that it takes to verify a block. It can be filled with lots of complicated scripts like this one and take up to even 12 minutes, or just by one transaction which is a 4 MB long message, and thus can be verified very quickly.

What's the optimal approach? Average verification time of the past x blocks?

Edit: I'm trying to sync the testnet3. I've reached the recent spam phase, and it went from 89 minutes remaining to 100.  Tongue
183  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trump vs. Biden is almost like Bitcoin vs Fiat on: June 04, 2024, 06:56:30 PM
I don't mean to imply that Biden was solely or even partially responsible for making Bitcoin go up in price, but he gets credit for not screwing it up
Why isn't Trump getting the credit for "not screwing it up" during his previous presidency?

e.g. making massive changes to our society like the ones Trump is promising that will drastically change the market.
What massively different will it be comparably to his previous presidency? You're giving me the impression that he'll now turn 180º and start attacking the market. What's the argument that supports this claim?

If you want one new FTX scandal a month, then vote for Trump Smiley.
FTX was literally a money laundering business for Biden and a contributor to the Ukrainian war.
184  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The absolute insanity Congress is writing now... on: June 04, 2024, 11:54:27 AM
Yep, pretty much. It's the sad reality.

Marketplaces like LocalBitcoins/LocalMonero could be outlawed in this dystopian future.
Every privacy-oriented service is already in the striking zone. LocalBitcoins has started demanding KYC long time ago. LocalMonero has shut down, probably because it seemed too risky to continue operating after the recent events with attacks in privacy services.



It's absurd how frequently we introduce the concept of "taint" into discussions about privacy. Those who believe certain bitcoins are "tainted" have fallen victim to a narrative that only harms the space.
185  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The absolute insanity Congress is writing now... on: June 03, 2024, 07:25:06 PM
Bad regimes existed before, even in countries that were going great.



I'm just kindly asking everyone in this thread to pause and realize that oppressive regimes have been the status quo for humanity since the beginning. From the Roman Empire and the Persians to the Qing Dynasty of China and the Russian tsars, hundreds of years before Jesus was born up until a century ago, a few totalitarian motherfuckers oppressed the populace and treated them as animals. And if that isn't shitty enough, it took the horrors of massive genocides resulting from the World Wars to start ... "laying the path" toward freedom.

It's only recently in humanity's calendar that ordinary people have begun to enjoy even a small measure of freedom. And now, there come these gimps who say people don't need privacy, the prerequisite for freedom. What a sham. Your descendants would feel sorry.

Freedom isn't free. It isn't a "natural default" like oxygen, and it certainly shouldn't be taken for granted.
186  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2024, 06:25:36 PM
Could you really buy that stock for only $200? I mean, besides the glitch, would the broker really permit you?
187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The absolute insanity Congress is writing now... on: June 03, 2024, 05:04:43 PM
I don't need laws for the obvious in life, but there's a law about privacy, and you said there isn't.
188  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trump accepts Lightning Network for donation of his campaign in Bitcoin on: June 03, 2024, 05:01:01 PM
The Bitcoin community in the last few months:



I have a hard feeling that we shouldn't be praising about that person. He accepts lightning, and other crypto for his donations. So what? It's naive to think that he's pro-Bitcoin, because Bitcoin literally takes the power of him. And, judging by his previous presidency, it's highly likely that he won't abide by his promises.
189  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The absolute insanity Congress is writing now... on: June 03, 2024, 04:50:34 PM
that would be really embarrassing. if i had to do that. i think if i did that, i would feel smaller than an ant and then disappear off the forum.  Shocked
Embarrassing would be the last adjective I'd use, but so be it, if you want. You want privacy, because it's none of our business what you're doing with your money. Same goes for "honest people" who mix their coins.

when bitcoin is a public ledger you should understand that its public and then personally do something yourself to protect yourself, such as YOU not revealing yourself..
Or... You know, obfuscate your Bitcoin activity. That's "something to protect yourself".

financial privacy has never been a human right,, centuries of evidence proves it
Article 12 from Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks

i personally dont need laws, rights or constitutions. as you know for many years i speak my mind and dont care who gets offended by the truth..
i dont cry that its my "right to speak".. i just speak my mind
So, here's my truth: I don't need laws to protect my privacy. I can simply practice it myself.
190  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Βαρουφάκης για bitcoin on: June 03, 2024, 09:20:48 AM
Πολύ ήρεμα το είχα πάρει αυτό το θέμα πριν 2 χρόνια. Αν ένας οικονομόλογος θεωρεί το Bitcoin τουλίπες, εν έτη 2022, τότε ή είναι κακόβουλος και επίτηδες δε λέει την αλήθεια, ή αδαής; Ποιο από τα δύο είναι χειρότερο για έναν οικονομολόγο που ήθελε να γίνει και πρωθυπουργός;

Προσπαθώ να μη βλέπω τα πράγματα προκατειλημμένος, αλλά έχουν πάει λίγο κουβά οι Κέυνς οικονομολόγοι τα τελευταία χρόνια;
191  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Blackjack.fun ⚽ Total Goals in Round 1 - Euro 2024 🏆 Prize $50 on: June 03, 2024, 09:06:28 AM
Total Goals: 41
192  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [FREE RAFFLE] Blackjack.fun 🖤 Prize $50 in Bitcoins | Round #4 on: June 03, 2024, 08:47:02 AM
62 and 63, thanks!

BlackJack username: blackhatcoiner
193  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The absolute insanity Congress is writing now... on: June 02, 2024, 09:29:04 PM
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Hopefully, someone understood that nonsense. Fortunately, the person you were replying to didn't even try.
194  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Google, Yahoo and Byzantine (fault) generals problem on: June 02, 2024, 07:41:22 PM
Satoshi's whitepaper shares notable similarities with Nick Szabo's writings though.
That's what I was thinking as well.

Perhaps Szabo penned the whitepaper, while the technical design originated from a different mind.  
There's a theory that makes Len Sassaman a potential candidate for that: https://evanhatch.medium.com/len-sassaman-and-satoshi-e483c85c2b10.

I am quite sure that everything was done by a single person.
If everything was done by a single person, then why was Satoshi a big blocker in forum posts and emails, and a small blocker when writing software? In this mail, Satoshi argues for 100 GB added in the blockchain everyday. In this forum post, he makes it clear that running a node is not the intended configuration for the average user, which is another way to say "only large farms will verify the blockchain".

In the software, he lowered the block size limit from 32 MB to 1, IIRC. That doesn't make sense, even for 2010. It would be trivial to add a lot more than 144 MB every day for "large server farms". Or was this arbitrary? AFAIK, the 32 MB limit wasn't a deliberate decision, it was just naturally the maximum size, if we ignore the number of database locks, which made it effectively 500-750k bytes.

Edit: If you're not convinced about Nick being Satoshi, then have you read this?
195  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [May 2024] Fees are low, use this opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs on: June 02, 2024, 03:27:40 PM
If the on chain volume doesn't escalate and grow by 2x every time you will NOT have 1GB blocks!
Except that you should always expect that the blocks will be filled. In the worst, spammers will fill it with garbage. May I remind you that spammers currently pay for highest priority? I'm pretty sure there will still be around if they can spam for free.

If the chain volume doesn't grow one bit from now you will not have even 2 MB blocks, since unless I have lived in a different reality having the maximum limit at 1MB didn't make all blocks at least 1MB, it made them at most 1MB!
Doesn't work that way. If a spammer sees they can fill blocks with movies, expect movies on-chain. We've already seen this on BSV, and we all know what is its demand.

As for sustainability, the fee in reward right now is 9%, you only need 10x demand to completely override the block reward which will not be gone tomorrow. If you don't think on-chain demand will be x10 times more in 25 years then you don't have to worry about the fate of Bitcoin anymore since it's pretty obvious what that would be!
You've misunderstood the assignment. There's a supply too in demand and supply, not only demand. If you're doubling the block size every four years, transaction fees will drop a lot. When mempool weighs less than the block size, miners are incentivized to even confirm 0.01 sat/vb. For your math to apply, demand (for on-chain volume) needs to double every four years.
196  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [May 2024] Fees are low, use this opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs on: June 02, 2024, 02:28:21 PM
I already did
That's my definition of scaling as well, but I was more concerned about the linear growth. What's your opinion about growing linearly?

Responding to your mail:
Since Taproot was activated, we no longer need separate OP_RETURN outputs to be pushed on-chain. If we want to attach any data to a transaction, we can create "OP_RETURN <anything>" as a branch in the TapScript. In this way, we can store that data off-chain and we can always prove that they are connected with some taproot address, that was pushed on-chain. Also, we can store more than 80 bytes for "free", because no such taproot branch will be ever pushed on-chain and used as an input. That means we can use "OP_RETURN <1.5 GB of data>", create some address having that taproot branch, and later prove to anyone that such "1.5 GB of data" is connected with our taproot address.
The problem with this is that OP_RETURN is often viewed as a way to store the message indefinitely. But, I agree that it can work, if your purpose is not to store arbitrary data on-chain.

Stompix himself, in his great wisdom wanted the block doubling since before the last having, and when I said doubling I meant that it would have been already doubled by now and we would be looking in the future for another one, so 4MB or a maximum theoretically size of 16.
Alright. In the present epoch, it's 16. In the subsequent epoch, it's 32, then 64, then 128, and so on. Do you understand that the on-chain volume doesn't escalate at the same pace, ensuring the system's sustainability? What's your plan for 25 years ahead, when the block size surpasses 1 GB, there's no competition in the fee market, and Bitcoin inevitably comes to an end?
197  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The absolute insanity Congress is writing now... on: June 02, 2024, 09:54:28 AM
privacy in pooping is not the same basic human right as privacy in spending money though. big difference. if you dont understand that then i don't know... Shocked maybe read franky's reply
It's not surprising that you find franky1's replies reasonable and correct.

So, you don't see any reason why an honest person would need privacy when spending bitcoin. That's not a new perspective, so don't feel unique. If you don't mind, could you share your full name and the latest banking transactions you've made over the last 12 months? It should be fairly easy. Just log in to your bank account, go to the transactions section, and you should see a "Transaction Report" that can be viewed as a PDF. Upload it on a temporary file service like this, and share it with us in here.
198  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Εφορία: "δικαιολογητικά" προελευσης Bitcoin ? on: June 01, 2024, 05:03:30 PM
Για τι ειδους παρεξηγησεις μιλαμε? Τυπου ξερω γω να ειναι off το ποσο για λιγα ευρω?
Μπες στο Discord server και θα καταλάβεις τι εννοώ, αν κι έχουν σβηστεί πολλά μηνύματα. Ο ένας ήθελε να γίνει η συναλλαγή δίπλα στο σπίτι του, ο άλλος σε δημόσιο χώρο. Ε, θίχθηκε ο ένας όταν του είπε το προφανές, ότι είναι επικίνδυνο αυτό που ζητάει (να γίνει η συναλλαγή δίπλα στο σπίτι του). Μια άλλη φορά είχα διαβάσει για έναν (σε αυτό το φόρουμ) που του πήρε τα λεφτά, και γρήγορα μπήκε σε αμάξι κι έφυγε χωρίς να του στείλει τα crypto. (Ήταν αδαής βέβαια, και τα έβαλε σε CEX, κι απ' όσο ξέρω του τα πάγωσαν)

Το κοντινότερο πράγμα σε αυτό που ζητάς είναι αυτό το group με άτομα που παρευρίσκονται σε meetup σε τακτική βάση, κι έχουν χτίσει ένα μικρό reputation.
199  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: EU: Παράνομες οι συναλλαγές από non-custodial wallets on: June 01, 2024, 04:44:26 PM
Τι θα κανουμε ρε μαγκες με αυτους τους τραχαναδες? Διαβάζω τρελα πραγματα παντου με μεταφορες crypto σε οτιδηποτε ειναι centralized.
Γενικά, άμα διαβάσεις τι νόμους πάνε να επιβάλλουν θα τραβάς τα μαλλιά σου. Δε θα μου κάνει εντύπωση αν απλά το self-custody γίνει παράνομο κάποια στιγμή στο μέλλον.

Νομιζα οτι η καλυτερη λυση ειναι p2p face2face cash trades, αλλα και για αυτο Ελλαδα δεν βλεπω πολλη κινητικότητα?
Θέλει υπομονή. Αν το πάνε στα άκρα, πιστεύω θα αρχίσουμε να συναλλάσουμε peer-to-peer, γιατί δε θα έχουμε εναλλακτική. Η μεταβατική περίοδος από crypto<->ηλεκτρονικό fiat (π.χ., revolut) σε crypto<->f2f-trades, προβλέπω πως θα είναι κάπως επίπονη. Ίσως και να μη γίνει καν, και να δούμε απότομη αύξηση του adoption, για το οποίο αμφιβάλλω βέβαια.
200  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Εφορία: "δικαιολογητικά" προελευσης Bitcoin ? on: June 01, 2024, 04:37:58 PM
Απο οσα εχω δει μεχρι στιγμης εδω, Bisq, paxful κτλ υπάρχει πολλή νεκρα, αλλά φαντάζομαι στην Αθήνα υπαρχουν πολλα ατομα που κανουν p2p cash και υπαρχει και η αναλογη εμπιστοσύνη.
Μπα...

Αν υπαρχει καποιο Telegram chat, ή κάτι αλλο και καποιος γνωρίζει παρακαλώ πείτε μου.
Υπάρχει αυτό: https://discord.gg/9J9dQVhG3v. Είναι Discord server του "Bitcoin & Blockchain Tech meetup", έχει ένα κανάλι για exchange over-the-counter, αλλά όπως μπορείς να δεις και μόνος σου υπάρχουν παρεξηγήσεις όταν ανταλλάσεις face-to-face. Θα βρεις κάποιον πιστεύω, εκτός αν θέλεις να πουλήσεις / αγοράσεις ένα εξωφρενικό ποσό.
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