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181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where Do You Want To Go To If You Win $2 million On Lottery on: February 12, 2024, 12:34:06 PM
I never dreamed of earning that much money. But let's imagine. I am not interested in moving countries because I have a lot of family in my country and my country is quite comfortable to live in, the tropical climate suits me and I am not ready to live in a 4 season climate.

So I will choose my own country, but if we talk about holidays then I choose England. I've never been to Europe before, but England seems like a country worth visiting on holiday. I saw on a YouTube channel that England has unique architecture and many historical places there.

After I returned from vacation, the next thing was to divide my remaining money into several investment categories. I'll think hard about this, but bitcoin will make up at least 25% of my investment portfolio
182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there any reliable binary options sites these days? on: February 12, 2024, 11:00:11 AM
I once played a binary option called binomo, but it turned out that binomo cheated and deceived many of its users. This case became a big scandal in my country, millions of dollars flowed to Binomo, after this case was made public, I never tried it again.

I saw that there are some gambling sites that have binary options but I'm not interested in trying them again, I think it's better to bet on popular games because it's more fun. Initially I thought binary options is a trading platform like forex but apparently I was wrong. Sorry I can't recommend anything because I haven't played binary options for a long time
183  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: BITCOIN CORE on: February 12, 2024, 05:22:10 AM
Itu download data Bitcoin Blockchain yang mainnet atau testnet?
Coba bandingkan estimasi waktu ke full sync-nya ketika sudah me-running Bitcoin Core sekitar 30-60 menit, apakah ada penurunan cukup banyak pada estimasi waktunya atau masih relatif sama?

Itu estimasi untuk mainet gan. Siap akan ane coba gan

Setelah ane coba tanyai berapa kecepatan wifi di rumah ane ke pengurus internetnya, ternyata hanya dapet alokasi 1,5Mbps doang dan itu dipake serumah, keknya utopis kalo di paksa di jaringan rumah gan. Di kantor juga di pake berjamaah. Nunggu jaringan Econet dari PLN masuk, katanya mau masuk desa dan bisa langganan yang up to 20Mbps. Tapi itu datanya sekali donload aja ya, meskipun ganti wallet atau upgrade ga donlod lagi gan? Kalo di pikir-pikir si emang kurang mantep kalo belum nyoba bitcoin core, secara itu main wallet untuk bitcoin
Kalau saya pakai bitcoin core karena melihat sejarahnya yang dibuat langsung oleh si pembuat bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto, tidak lebih. Mengenai jaringan internet, ada baiknya sampeyan cari-cari yang tebaik di lokasi sampeyan. Soalnya dari beberapa pengalaman teman, Iconet dari PLN juga kurang bagus, malah sering banget keputus dan ngikut juga padam kalau sedang mati lampu. Indihome bagus, tapi kalau di tempat saya kurang, karena sudah banyak yang pakai sehingga kekuatan jaringannya kurang maksimal. Paling sampeyan coba dulu kayak myrepublic, disamping banyak diskon bonus, myrepublic juga masih sedikit yang pakai sehingga jaringan yang sampai di rumah kita itu bisa maksimal

ECOnet opsi terbaik yang mungkin bisa ane pilih untuk saat ini, katanya si sudah mulai dipasang jaringane tapi belum sampe ketempat ane. myrepublic ane baru denger gan, indohome ama bisnet aja ga masuk desa ane apalagi yang aneh-aneh gan, masih jauh keknya jaringane nyampe di tempat ane. Untuk mempercepat sync mungkin ke cafe atau tempat yang ada wifi.id opsi terbaik untuk saat ini gan

Mungkin Agan bisa mencoba ke perkotaan ke warung kopi yang memiliki wifi.id dengan speed 50-100mbps. Meskipun hanya 1-2 jam setidaknya itu lebih baik daripada speed 1.5mbps Grin. Btw kenapa speed wifi di rumah agan bisa kecil sekali, 1.5mbps? Itu speed yang dijatah sama pengurus internet atau speed dari sebuah provider wifi Gan?

Iya gan, karena dipakai orang banyak jadi dapet bagiannya dikit. Bayare juga murah gan, cuma 100k sebulan. Ane udah tanya juga untuk upgrade bisa nyampe maksimal 5Mbps gan dan bayare naik jadi 200k/mo, lebih tinggi lagi ga boleh karena nanti pelanggan yang lain jadi ga kebagian bandwith gan. Tapi ane mending pilih ECOnet aja nanti kalo udah masuk, katanya 20Mbps cuma 225k/mo
184  Other / Meta / Re: USE OF CHAT GPT-RULES on: February 11, 2024, 11:28:36 PM
-snip-
However AI is like that, a few years ago Google's search engine was also very bad, but now it is very good, Google can almost find the most accurate answers on the internet. I suspect AI will also be the same, maybe one day AI will even be able to judge the answers themselves, such as providing statements about their own answers, answers that lack references, answers taken from unreliable sources, answers that have too many pros and cons, etc. I don't think it will take long, maybe 5 years is enough to make AI that sophisticated

However, no matter how sophisticated AI is, its position will be like Google, AI is only used to help humans. But you definitely know how much we depend on Google search for now, it is only a matter of time until we start depending on AI and public jobs will be replaced by AI. AI, robotics, sensory, will dominate many general routine work sectors replacing humans
There are two things that are different - Google Search only recommends you links to find the answer to the question you are looking for, but AI gives you the answer directly because they summarize it for you. Of course - AI is a technological product that helps with many things, but AI will not take over everything that is needed on the Internet and you will still have to do a lot of further research for more accurate information.

AI can replace humans in certain jobs - but it won't solve all problems without human intervention. We may think that AI can help you with everything you want - but AI could possibly harm the systems that have been built in such a way. AI can solve some problems - but not all problems and AI cannot completely replace humans for anything without human intervention.

Yeah bro, agree. Humans are the most complex thing on earth, millions of books have been written to describe humans from the physical to the mental side, starting from life needs, economics, psychology, mental health, self-resilience, reasoning, health, etc. However, there has not been a single book that has been able to describe humans completely and accurately

Google search recommends millions of pages (answers) and AI recommends answers (analysis of millions of pages). Both answers are recommendations and the final decision is in our own hands.

The difference is that AI can learn on its own, the better the reference, the better the answer, combined with algorithms, robot systems and sensors, very sophisticated technology will be created. I agree with you that AI will never completely replace humans, but many humans will be replaced by AI, especially routine and common jobs. It will be worse than the google search era which has made us so dependent on it

Maybe one day books will be digitized and AI will be able to find answers from expert answers written in their books, carry out comparisons, analysis and arguments for its own judgments. Again, it's just a matter of time. However this is just an opinion in my head and I honestly hope what I predict is wrong, because that would be a real nightmare for humans.
I just want the government to ban it and this should not be misused. AI is a technology that can be dangerous if used incorrectly - its use must be limited so that humans can still use their brains.

Yes, I totally agree. Hopefully one day AI will be deemed illegal everywhere before it's too late
185  Other / Meta / Re: USE OF CHAT GPT-RULES on: February 11, 2024, 09:16:26 PM
Maybe people's behavior will change from usually looking for information on Google search boards to AI boards. Google also performs searches in a fraction of seconds and the results are now very good, their algorithm is able to analyze which sites have good ratings and which do not, Google has a great algorithm in determining SERP

It works only when you are searching for something very common what many others search also. The same for AI: if there is many similar texts it will give what most popular. And when you search for something not so popular and what is accordant to something popular, sometimes you need to search a lot to find what you really need. So I don't expect AI to become good enough to stop making mistakes, and AI mistakes can be painful if to ask something important.

Have you ever found an accurate answer to diagnose a specific disease from a doctor? I don't think so, doctors still have to carry out examinations, research and analysis. So there is no instant accurate answer even if asked to humans or experts

However AI is like that, a few years ago Google's search engine was also very bad, but now it is very good, Google can almost find the most accurate answers on the internet. I suspect AI will also be the same, maybe one day AI will even be able to judge the answers themselves, such as providing statements about their own answers, answers that lack references, answers taken from unreliable sources, answers that have too many pros and cons, etc. I don't think it will take long, maybe 5 years is enough to make AI that sophisticated

However, no matter how sophisticated AI is, its position will be like Google, AI is only used to help humans. But you definitely know how much we depend on Google search for now, it is only a matter of time until we start depending on AI and public jobs will be replaced by AI. AI, robotics, sensory, will dominate many general routine work sectors replacing humans

Maybe one day books will be digitized and AI will be able to find answers from expert answers written in their books, carry out comparisons, analysis and arguments for its own judgments. Again, it's just a matter of time. However this is just an opinion in my head and I honestly hope what I predict is wrong, because that would be a real nightmare for humans.

Maybe people's behavior will change from usually looking for information on Google search boards to AI boards.

I believe that is what will definitely happen in the nearest future. Google search requires some analysis and systematising of information, even the slightest. While AI bots offer ready-to-use answers. People are becoming easier and easier, they don't want to deal with information themselves. Everything is heading to the situation, when most of people would draw information not from open sources, but from where it is presented in the most simplified, ready-made form.

Yeah, I think so
186  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Who knows ? on: February 11, 2024, 11:17:06 AM
Is it your wallet or you just found a wallet address that contains a lot of bitcoins. Finding an address containing bitcoin is easy, but finding the key is certainly not easy.

But if the wallet is yours, maybe you still remember where you kept your keys, try to reflect for a moment in a quiet place and start trying to remember. but I'm not sure the wallet is yours  Cheesy Wink

Is it your wallet or you just found a wallet address that contains a lot of bitcoins. Finding an address containing bitcoin is easy, but finding the key is certainly not easy.
Most likely he is referring to wallet.dat file encrypted with password. So the password is needed to decrypt the wallet. Likely he has been scammed or he is looking for a way to scam someone. No one should take this user seriously.

Really? just Lol
187  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: BITCOIN CORE on: February 11, 2024, 06:11:08 AM
Ane ga bisa berharap banyak gan kalo harus full sync cz ane masih pake NB, sinyal juga pakek wifi bumdes karena adanya cuma itu, sinyal hape juga kagak bagus karena kebetulan rumah ane agak di cekungan jadi signal sulit masuk. Kalo liat data donlod full sync di bitcoin core mainet butuh waktu 12 taon lebih gan. Jadi jika dihitung 6% dari 12 taon, maka itu waktu yang cukup membagonggan untuk ane tunggu. Semoga member lain yang memiliki kemampuan perangkat dan jaringan bisa pada gabung karena challenge dari agan abhi selalu memberi stimulus untuk mempelajari perwalletan dan rewardnya juga mayan tuh buat support rank
"Synchronizing with network 12 years behind" kalau diterjemahkan maksudnya adalah Node tertinggal sekitar 631.139 Block (Dengan asumsi Block Time = 10 Minutes) dari kondisi full sync. Jadi bukan menyatakan estimasi waktu download sampai full sync adalah 12 tahun.

Yang mewakili estimasi waktu download adalah status "Estimated time left until synced"

Oya bener gan, alhamdullilahnya tenyata engga 12 tahun gan setelah di cek ulang,



Tapi masih setaon 28 minggu juga gan, duh keknya kudu di upgrade dulu perangkatnya nih, udah terlalu usang.

Kalau semisal wifi bumdesnya malamnya bagus, dicoba aja malamnya, NB-nya dibiarin nyala sembari download, sampeyannya tidur.


Setelah ane coba tanyai berapa kecepatan wifi di rumah ane ke pengurus internetnya, ternyata hanya dapet alokasi 1,5Mbps doang dan itu dipake serumah, keknya utopis kalo di paksa di jaringan rumah gan. Di kantor juga di pake berjamaah. Nunggu jaringan Econet dari PLN masuk, katanya mau masuk desa dan bisa langganan yang up to 20Mbps. Tapi itu datanya sekali donload aja ya, meskipun ganti wallet atau upgrade ga donlod lagi gan? Kalo di pikir-pikir si emang kurang mantep kalo belum nyoba bitcoin core, secara itu main wallet untuk bitcoin
188  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Tomorrow you wake up, You got 50000$ in your hand. What will you do? on: February 11, 2024, 04:41:31 AM
Set aside money for taxes, no-one mentioned that yet.

After I set aside 35% for taxes, I would first max out my roth IRA

Taxes                            17500
Roth IRA                       6000
Fix my fucked up car      5000
Home repairs                10000

Keep the remainder as an emergency fund.

Continue life as normal


How did no one else mention setting aside money for taxes?

We will only get the money tomorrow, why should we think about the taxes now, tomorrow we will just think about how the money will be used and most importantly we wait for tomorrow to come.

But since you're talking about taxes, is there a way to avoid them? 35% is big guys, let's talk about the odds ...  Cheesy
189  Economy / Reputation / Re: [FUN] Who are they, the members who often comment on wall observer? on: February 11, 2024, 04:29:31 AM
~cut~

Thank you for the great answer you provided

Sorry if my question is quite silly, please don't be too blasphemous, maybe a little blasphemous is okay  Wink Wink

I don't know what you expect to know in an anonymous forum about them. The most you can know is about those who gave the interview but little else, and that was focused on what they think of bitcoin and the forum, not so much on them.

I'm just curious. Maybe they are old members who are only interested in bitcoin. I know my question is silly, that's why I titled it FUN
190  Economy / Reputation / [FUN] Who are they, the members who often comment on wall observer? on: February 11, 2024, 12:22:49 AM
Honestly, this question has been on my mind for a long time, who actually are the members who often comment on wall observer? they are legendary members who have many merits, they have never registered or joined a sign campaign, I suspect they are holders or miners, maybe they are true bitcoin lovers, maybe some members think their posts are just shitpost/off topic but they are existing members on this forum are not for campaigns, they are there for bitcoin

Sorry if my question is quite silly, please don't be too blasphemous, maybe a little blasphemous is okay  Wink Wink
191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling? on: February 10, 2024, 11:26:21 PM
If suddenly you went on a binge-gambling out of a lack of self-control or something else. For example, you deposit money in rapid succession after a series of losses and the casino management freezes your account. And when you call their customer support, they tell you that your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order, will you feel furious, cuss out, sign out of your account and register on another casino and continue betting. Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?
This is unlikely to ever happen. No casinos would ever freeze an account because of this reason. I believe this topic is related to a scam accusation thread where the user got his account ban because his girlfriend accessed his account and requested that the casino ban him from gambling. The point is, the casino would need your express permission before they can ban your account on such grounds.

Yes it's true, the casino will not close its profit source voluntarily (users), but we need to notify them via live support or email for the casino to close our account. I have a friend who is quite addicted to gambling and he closed his account of his own accord, after a long time he asked user service to reopen his account and apparently he got a small bonus for that. It happened at our local casino
192  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are the benefits of cryptocurrency to the illiterate people on: February 10, 2024, 04:39:04 PM

Bitcoin precisely can be introduced to the illetrates ones by teaching them the basic knowledge of bitcoin. Teaching them how to invest in bitcoin will be a good help to them, since inflation is eaten up the value of our currency. The illetrates do have savings, some illetrates are rich and well to do, especially the ones in business.


Wow! In your opinion, are illiterate people capable of running a business? Perhaps yes, by farming or something similar. But I haven't met such people. In my opinion, people capable of organizing their businesses are talented and have skills that appear after education. But I won’t argue; perhaps you’ve met such people.
But how can these people, without literacy, understand where and how to enter at least the seed phrase from the wallet?
If a person is illiterate, Bitcoin will not improve his life until he matures. Usually, such people have a low level of mental development, so Bitcoin is useless for them.

Yes, I am also surprised by their logic. Most illiterate people have low economic capacity so they do not have sufficient ability to invest. Then how will they use a computer when they can't read, illiterate people usually have low intelligence and it is very difficult to teach about computers if they can't distinguish letters. Ah. they're just people who are afraid of having different opinions, maybe

What are the benefits of cryptocurrency to the illiterate people?

There's no benefit. It is better for illiterate people to be taught to read first. In my opinion, it is unreasonable for anyone to think that Bitcoin can be an investment for those who are illiterate. Meanwhile, even normal people have a big risk, especially illiterate people will have difficulty finding technical and fundamental analysis about Bitcoin. Their risk would be greater than someone who can read and I don't think it's a good option for them. I know bitcoin is a good technology but not all good things are accepted in all circles

But not all literate people are into investments right? What's missing to them? Definitely will and it does not require literacy in the first place. They COULD benefit from this industry and as you said they just need to learn things first. But there are ways and that is if there's someone to guide them with things. Risk is understandable by all people by the concept of 'gambling'wherein everyone is aware of. Athough things are different between investment and gambling, the thought is simply how risk is manageable.

Of course, and would an illiterate person prefer to invest? If so, the number must be very, very small. What? they don't need literacy skills? how can they have a wallet, secure a wallet, trade on an exchange, if they can't read and write? with the help of others? Of course it is possible, but what are the risks? For normal people, the risk is big, especially for illiterate people, they are not able to analyze Bitcoin. Throwing them into a high risk investment means you are adding more than 10x the risk to them, that's a bad choice for them guys. I know bitcoin is good but not always a good thing is accepted in all circles

What are the benefits of cryptocurrency to the illiterate people?
Zero, nada, nilch. Those kind of people have far bigger problems than whether they can/should buy bitcoin or not.

yeah, smart thing
193  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are the benefits of cryptocurrency to the illiterate people on: February 10, 2024, 01:47:54 PM
What are the benefits of cryptocurrency to the illiterate people?

There's no benefit. It is better for illiterate people to be taught to read first. In my opinion, it is unreasonable for anyone to think that Bitcoin can be an investment for those who are illiterate. Meanwhile, even normal people have a big risk, especially illiterate people will have difficulty finding technical and fundamental analysis about Bitcoin. Their risk would be greater than someone who can read and I don't think it's a good option for them. I know bitcoin is a good technology but not all good things are accepted in all circles
194  Other / Meta / Re: USE OF CHAT GPT-RULES on: February 10, 2024, 01:31:13 PM
I don't know about you but I prefer getting answers from real people instead chatbot.
AI generates many more conversations within a second not real conversations. You can check the passage AI generates, its atmosphere looks very worse or it can't express the real movement of real people.
About AIs generating conversations in seconds, I must say I agree with that. But I strongly disagree that their work can't look like real people's work. It only depends on the AI you are using, how you've set/trained it and how you are patient about the conversation you want it to achieve for you and how actually want this to be viewed.

The issue is that many who are using the AIs are lazy, they want the job done so fast, so they are not actually giving it time to perfect what they want. To be honest with you, some AIs will deliver some jobs to you and you can still proceed to edit it to make it more fitting. That's for those who want to at least add effort to what the AIs have done for them, but not the bunch of lazy chickens just wanting to spam.

That's because AI is still in the development stage but I'm sure in 5 years AI will be very powerful and maybe they will be able to judge which references are trustworthy and which are not. Maybe people's behavior will change from usually looking for information on Google search boards to AI boards. Google also performs searches in a fraction of seconds and the results are now very good, their algorithm is able to analyze which sites have good ratings and which do not, Google has a great algorithm in determining SERP

The next problem is, if we don't have special abilities then we will be finished off by AI. Honestly, I agree that AI is scarier than any technology ever created
195  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Edukasi] Proses Transaksi & Block di Jaringan Blockchain Bitcoin on: February 10, 2024, 12:59:13 PM
Thread yang bagus gan, cuma sayangnya ane ga nyampe gan.. Keknya kita beda pentium gan. Btw kalo bisa di jelasin dari yang paling simple dulu gan termasuk singkatan atau jenis transaksinya. Ane bener-bener awam tentang hal begituan. UTXO juga ane ga paham itu sebenernya singkatan apa gan..

Keknya member SFI bertambah satu lagi lawan yang imbang buat agan husna, chikito, ama abhi dan lainnya, ntapp


Main di global gan biar gacor dapet meritnya juga  Grin
196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling? on: February 10, 2024, 10:10:52 AM
If suddenly you went on a binge-gambling out of a lack of self-control or something else. For example, you deposit money in rapid succession after a series of losses and the casino management freezes your account. And when you call their customer support, they tell you that your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order, will you feel furious, cuss out, sign out of your account and register on another casino and continue betting. Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?

The more often you make deposits, the more the casino will like you, they will not block or freeze your account at all. However, if you make too many withdrawals then your account will most likely be frozen or you will be banned from playing at that casino again.

So the casino won't care how much money you spend at their casino, they won't care about your addiction, but if you withdraw a lot of money from them then they will care and put a mark on your account. Casinos are businesses and not charities or social foundations that care about your problems and finances
197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If I bet big I lose, but if I bet small I win on: February 09, 2024, 01:00:26 PM
If that is what is happening to you, then use just small amount of money for gambling so that you can continue to win. Although you are just thinking like that, but that is not how it is. Just that your emotion makes you to make less chance of winning decisions when you are using huge amount of money to gamble. I have a friend that said this to me when he was gambling. But gambling is better with little amount of money that will not let your emotion to control you to make wrong decisions.

No, it doesn't mean that when I bet small I will always win. You definitely understand what I mean. When I feel my cards are good I think about increasing the bet in the next round, and it turns out I lose, I stay on that bet for two or three rounds and keep losing, when I decide to lower the bet I win. Sometimes I also win when I raise the bet but often I lose

Nah, this is because of luck. Table games is skill based games, so you've tried your best to win the games, but if you still lose it, you have a bad luck in that moment. Remember there were many gamblers win a lot of money, although it's way more people who lose.

Yeah, i think so
198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If I bet big I lose, but if I bet small I win on: February 09, 2024, 12:44:00 PM
Guys, do you often feel like me? when I raise the bet I lose and when I lower the bet I win. Does the casino system/algorithm know the betting patterns we make? So often when we bet big we are given a loss and when our bet is small we actually win, which is very annoying

I don't know if this applies to all games or not, but I feel like this often when playing table games. What do you think?

I would love to feel that feeling,even of a small win as I am losing in a constant way no matter if I bet big or not I always lose.The bad thing is that even if I add together like 6 sport events with odds less than 1.10 each event I still lose as some of these teams/players seem to lose no matter that low odd that they have.It looks like the worse luck is following me day by day so these last couple of days I have completely quit gambling.Let's see how much time I resist.

Hmmm... it looks like you need to carry out a special ritual to fight the bad luck that has befallen you lately. But deciding to stop was the right choice. Come back when you have enough money and your financial condition is good enough. But I'm not sure you can last long because as far as I know your campaign payments will be sent to your gambling account, so it must be hard to resist your gambling urges.  Grin
199  Economy / Gambling discussion / If I bet big I lose, but if I bet small I win on: February 09, 2024, 12:28:27 PM
Guys, do you often feel like me? when I raise the bet I lose and when I lower the bet I win. Does the casino system/algorithm know the betting patterns we make? So often when we bet big we are given a loss and when our bet is small we actually win, which is very annoying

I don't know if this applies to all games or not, but I feel like this often when playing table games. What do you think?
200  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: $GMOY, Token Hype Untuk Kontestasi Pilpres on: February 09, 2024, 11:56:03 AM
Kok kocak kocak banget ya nama tokennya. Apa ga bisa gitu bikin nama yang agak kerenan dikit. Menurut ane si ini hanya untuk cari duit doang dan ahirnya udh jelas shitcoin atau scam. Seperti pertanyaan yang lain, ini diluncurkan dengan sepengetahuan paslon nomer 2 apa engga gitu, kalo engga ya berarti ada yang memanfaatkan kesempitan dalam keadaan.

Terus untuk nasib token yang sebelum-sebelumnya gimana gan? kek ASIX, LESLAR, ANGEL apakah mereka bisa dituduh penipuan kalo token mereka berahir dengan mati? atau menjadi shitcoin yang ga jelas

Namanya juga hype om, pastinya developer memasukkan identitas didalam pembuatan nama token atau ticker-nya, kenapa nama token-nya Gemoy? karena itulah naratif dan identitas yang melekat pada paslon 02 om.

Kadang ane heran, emang ada yang beli gitu ya? ane berani bertaruh kalo penghuni forum keknya ga bakal beli tapi kalo orang diluaran sana gatau gimana.

Kemudian tentang nasib $ASIX, $LESLAR dan $ANGEL. Untuk $LESLAR dan $ANGEL saya pikir sudah bisa dikategorikan sebagai scam, karena bahkan mereka tidak memiliki perkembangan apapun lagi alias mangkrak. Sedangkan $ASIX, mereka masih terdaftar di Indodax, ya walaupun chart-nya sudah seperti barcode Grin.

Nah ini, asal token udh masuk market keknya di anggap selesai ama developernya, mungkin mereka barharap tokennya bakal tetep ramai ketika udh listing. Kemudian yang paling bahaya itu kalo hal seperti ini jadi kebiasaan, proyek crypto di anggap biasa ketia scam. Harusnya lebih ketat lah kalo misal udah terdaftar, minimalnya mereka harus melaporkan neraca bisnisnya di web atau kepada para pemegang token. Jika mereka bangkrut atau gagal dalam pengembangan proyeknya minimalnya ada prosesi pailit dan aset-asetnya bakal di apain gitu, lelang atau di bagikan kepada holder. Kalo proyek crypto scam di anggap biasa apalagi udah ke daftar di bappeti maka sama aja ma yang ilegal. Harusnya dilaporin nih, soalnya gajauh beda ama penipuan, bikin token - listing - bubar
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