USE OF CHAT GPT-RULES

[tread93]

I know that there are probably rules, somewhere that I haven't looked. In general I feel like noboby has really posted Rules to Chat GPT. Of course I know its foolish to use it direcly as if you are the one who created the text/thought but what about quoting? And What about as a research tool? Chat GPT really helps to you skip the learning curve if you know how to use it correctly. It has helped me loads with simply understanding complex thought that I didn't undertand. I just made a post quoting Chat GPT and I don't even know if that was following the rules. If we can't avoid it which we definitely can't, that means that Chat GPT is veriy similar to BTC in this aspect lol. What do you guys think about Chat GPT? I'd love a Btalk Bot that has kind of like a chat GPT engine but geared direclty towards helping the users/ newbies with literally anything. Would love to see this THEYMOS! I wonder if this has been discussed?

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[Rikafip]

I just made a post quoting Chat GPT and I don't even know if that was following the rules.

As long as you mention the source (as you did) and properly format it you shoulnd't have any issues.

I'd love a Btalk Bot that has kind of like a chat GPT engine but geared direclty towards helping the users/ newbies with literally anything. Would love to see this THEYMOS! I wonder if this has been discussed?

What would be the point of having something like that in a place built so people can have conversations with each other? I don't know about you but I prefer getting answers from real people instead chatbot.

We've seen all kinds of suggestions but this one is one of the most pointless ones I've seen in a while.

[Stalker22]

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I'd love a Btalk Bot that has kind of like a chat GPT engine but geared direclty towards helping the users/ newbies with literally anything. Would love to see this THEYMOS! I wonder if this has been discussed?

Im not convinced we are there yet.  Tools like AI chatbots seem handy, but we gotta think about problems like misinformation, fake news, and whether they can really give people customized help and,  like say your Bitcoin wallet is acting up and you might lose your hard-earned coins - would you rather get a generic response from something like ChatGPT that might be wrong, or get advice from somebody trustworthy on a forum who really knows their stuff?

Im just not sure AI is ready to solve actual issues folks have.  And when your money or livelihood is at stake, you want a human who understands your specific sitch and has the skills to help, not just a bot spitting out what its algorithm thinks applies.  This stuff keeps improving but its gotta be way more advanced before Id rely on it for anything important.

[Adbitco]

They are fighting serious to eliminate the use of Chat-gpt because they wanted everyone or anyone posting here to share their real knowledge instead of using this tools over here and, there are several people that has been reported for using GPT to post here. Naturally while posting you can indicate in your post just Rikafip said there will be no penalty for that, but you must know that the forum doesn't encourage anyone to use that over here, even to search a question from google and copy to post here is highly frown upon the poster and hence might received a tag for that so whatever you are post that doesn't comes from you directly then you must provides a source link to such post.

[DaNNy001]

I know that there are probably rules, somewhere that I haven't looked. In general I feel like noboby has really posted Rules to Chat GPT. Of course I know its foolish to use it direcly as if you are the one who created the text/thought but what about quoting? And What about as a research tool? Chat GPT really helps to you skip the learning curve if you know how to use it correctly. It has helped me loads with simply understanding complex thought that I didn't undertand. I just made a post quoting Chat GPT and I don't even know if that was following the rules. If we can't avoid it which we definitely can't, that means that Chat GPT is veriy similar to BTC in this aspect lol. What do you guys think about Chat GPT? I'd love a Btalk Bot that has kind of like a chat GPT engine but geared direclty towards helping the users/ newbies with literally anything. Would love to see this THEYMOS! I wonder if this has been discussed?

Alot of members agree that this place is an interactive community so everyone should be able to converse with each other at least that's how it's supposed to work but it's just funny how people now get robots to do their chatting and conversation for them 🤔🤔. I agree that the AI helps a lot when it comes to compiling and understanding things but Atleast when it's being explained one should be able to do the rest with his own brain that actually created the actual bot that help him.  😁

[Zaguru12]

Of course I know its foolish to use it direcly as if you are the one who created the text/thought but what about quoting? And What about as a research tool? Chat GPT really helps to you skip the learning curve if you know how to use it correctly. It has helped me loads with simply understanding complex thought that I didn't undertand. I just made a post quoting Chat GPT and I don't even know if that was following the rules. If we can't avoid it which we definitely can't, that means that Chat GPT is veriy similar to BTC in this aspect lol.

The rules here as stated in the first post above is to provide the source of your information if at all they don’t belong to you, this acknowledges the real author and also save you from answering unnecessary questions base what wasn’t yours, this particular rule doesn’t change when pertaining to ChatGPT or any other AI tool.

As for your suggestions about AI tools been invented here I don’t think it will be a good idea because if there is one thing that spreads misinformation or stats this period is AI, they have fixed answer for a particular situation and a human brain is robust to solve the questions in different directions that’s why when you get stuck ask your questions here and people with life experience will tell you how to solve yeh issue  not a machine. If it was to create a AI tool I don’t think we will be here because you can simply navigate for that on goggle. Right now the only thing is to make the search engine of the forum function well. But a AI tool which carry an idea of its developer and few other ideas is not welcome.

[criptoevangelista]

This forum here is old school and this is the best there is, in the past people talked to each other, there was more human interaction, you had creativity... Today you only see people with cell phones and GPT chat, human x human interaction is ending , this is a big problem. I am completely against using GPT chat for interaction here at Bitcoin Talk.

[SamReomo]

I don't know about you but I prefer getting answers from real people instead chatbot.

I agree with you and I also prefer to get answers from real humans instead of chatbots that were trained on data which's publicly available. Those chatbots can't really have the emotions or ideas that real humans have and that's why getting answers from those bots is not useful at all.

I wont suggest anyone to use those AI text generators because instead of helping you they can create more troubles for you. Members of this forum really don't like to talk with bots and they don't want to hear the answers or replies that are generated by a bot. It's much better to avoid those in order to be more productive. I think traditional school way of writing is much better than getting any help from those AI chatbots.

I highly disagree with OP's suggestion and I would never want a Chatbot to be part of a reputable forum like Bitcointalk. The users who need help here on Bitcointalk will get the help through real humans not through a bot. If chatbots continue doing everything that humans do on this forum then soon we will be allowing those bots to take decisions for us and that will lead to destruction of our thoughts and ideas.

[Casdinyard]

I know that there are probably rules, somewhere that I haven't looked. In general I feel like noboby has really posted Rules to Chat GPT. Of course I know its foolish to use it direcly as if you are the one who created the text/thought but what about quoting? And What about as a research tool? Chat GPT really helps to you skip the learning curve if you know how to use it correctly. It has helped me loads with simply understanding complex thought that I didn't undertand. I just made a post quoting Chat GPT and I don't even know if that was following the rules. If we can't avoid it which we definitely can't, that means that Chat GPT is veriy similar to BTC in this aspect lol. What do you guys think about Chat GPT? I'd love a Btalk Bot that has kind of like a chat GPT engine but geared direclty towards helping the users/ newbies with literally anything. Would love to see this THEYMOS! I wonder if this has been discussed?

Besides "explicitly stated" Chat-GPT Topics like: "AI's opinions on yadda yadda", I don't think there's a good reason for you to quote a language model that fetches data from other people's efforts. Even less reason to put it up as a research tool when we can't even use Wikipedia as a reliable research source for studies in the academe.

Personally the reason why I think ChatGPT should be outright banned is it removes the effort and the ingenuity in creating posts that come from you all in all. Especially if you're part of a campaign and you're getting paid for it. And at the end of the day, no one's gonna want to interact with a site ran by bots, which is what effectively would happen if we're going to allow ChatGPT here. Not to mention the fact that this site was made in the first place for the sole purpose of providing educated opinions on certain topics, and debate upon those that need debating. Incorporating ChatGPT here will effectively make bitcointalk's main directive a massive flop. It's going to drive even less productive and contributing topics into this forum (I can only imagine what's gonna happen to the gambling discussion board when ChatGPT gets accepted into this forum) so all the more reasons for theymos and the gang to not really allow that in our forum.

[logfiles]

I just made a post quoting Chat GPT and I don't even know if that was following the rules.

So long as you quoted and mentioned the source, it should be fine. It's simillar to users quoting a text from a different source but then mentioning the source of the text

If we can't avoid it which we definitely can't, that means that Chat GPT is veriy similar to BTC in this aspect lol. What do you guys think about Chat GPT? I'd love a Btalk Bot that has kind of like a chat GPT engine but geared direclty towards helping the users/ newbies with literally anything. Would love to see this THEYMOS! I wonder if this has been discussed?

Nobody is against ChatGPT, but rather users who spam and pretend to be posting their own replies, yet they just copied from ChatGPT responses.

Just asking what difference would the Btalk Bot away from the commonly known ChatGPT?

Please we still have a new forum software to deploy, leave us alone 

[Marvelman]

Personally, I wouldn't want to see the forum become a space filled with ChatGPT-generated content.  What would be the point?  We all have access to these tools, so there's no need to just copy and paste the same content onto online forums.  I prefer to read the genuine opinions and experiences of real Bitcoiners.

[tread93]

I just made a post quoting Chat GPT and I don't even know if that was following the rules.

So long as you quoted and mentioned the source, it should be fine. It's simillar to users quoting a text from a different source but then mentioning the source of the text

If we can't avoid it which we definitely can't, that means that Chat GPT is veriy similar to BTC in this aspect lol. What do you guys think about Chat GPT? I'd love a Btalk Bot that has kind of like a chat GPT engine but geared direclty towards helping the users/ newbies with literally anything. Would love to see this THEYMOS! I wonder if this has been discussed?

Nobody is against ChatGPT, but rather users who spam and pretend to be posting their own replies, yet they just copied from ChatGPT responses.

Just asking what difference would the Btalk Bot away from the commonly known ChatGPT?

Please we still have a new forum software to deploy, leave us alone 

Teachers have a bigger problem with that honestly haha, and yes I would have to agree people do abuse the software for that purpose but not me, I use it as a way to enrich myself and educating myself instead of having it write things for me for my own use. I mean honestly I get where people are coming from and by no means do I want to take away the community be replacing for certain things, but for simple things like searching for example. Everybody knows that google is better to find anything on bitcointalk, but what if the built in Bot could just do the search function for us within the bitcointalk browser that we are in already? I am purely speaking from the sense that we can use this technology with simple things like that.

Haha i'm sorry m8, I know you guys have a lot on you plate and this isn't up on the priority list by any means and I'm not saying it should be all I am saying is to consider the posibilities and to embrace AI in that sense for the sheer use of utility alone like the reason I stated above.

[nutildah]

Here's me imitating ChatGPT while answering your question:

Certainly! While its true that theymos has yet to make a definitive statement regarding the use of ChatGPT on the Bitcointalk forum, several moderators have expressed independent opinions on the issue. Such opinions include regarding ChatGPT-authored posts as spam, as non-conducive to the forum's overall environment, and even being contrary to the ethos of an online forum.

It is important to remember that viewpoints of the staff may change without warning, and you should always check their recent posts for policy updates. It is essential to conduct one's own research on such an issue before taking actions based on the information provided in this response.

I just made a post quoting Chat GPT and I don't even know if that was following the rules.

As long as you mention the source (as you did) and properly format it you shoulnd't have any issues.

Yes. Quoting ChatGPT is fine. Its only a problem when people try to pretend they are the ones who wrote the material & want to take credit for it.

For example, I would much rather see this:

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CHAT GPT SAYS THE FOLLOWING after my below prompting to it after I searched the proccess of signing one's bitcoin address since I have never actually done so nor knew the potential risks assumed once done:


"Would signing that message in any way compomise the security of the private key? What are the drawbacks to doing this for ones security both of their keys and of their location?
ChatGPT
Signing a message with a Bitcoin address does not directly compromise the security of the private key, as the key itself is never exposed or transmitted during the signing or verification process. ...

Than this:

I think Bitcoin is a dynamic and evolving digital asset, subject to price fluctuations, regulatory developments, and technological advancements, as of my most recent knowledge update in January 2024.

Just something duplicitous about taking credit for stuff written by somebody/something else. It shouldn't be tolerated or we will soon be overrun by it.

[EarnOnVictor]

I know that there are probably rules, somewhere that I haven't looked. In general I feel like noboby has really posted Rules to Chat GPT. Of course I know its foolish to use it direcly as if you are the one who created the text/thought but what about quoting? And What about as a research tool? Chat GPT really helps to you skip the learning curve if you know how to use it correctly. It has helped me loads with simply understanding complex thought that I didn't undertand. I just made a post quoting Chat GPT and I don't even know if that was following the rules. If we can't avoid it which we definitely can't, that means that Chat GPT is veriy similar to BTC in this aspect lol. What do you guys think about Chat GPT? I'd love a Btalk Bot that has kind of like a chat GPT engine but geared direclty towards helping the users/ newbies with literally anything. Would love to see this THEYMOS! I wonder if this has been discussed?

Lol...I think this is normal, so far it is not what you can write word-for-word, so why not? You can learn from Chat GPT, gain the knowledge and write it in your own way. I do not think that there is anything special here, after all, we learn daily. Many things you know today were learned from different sources, and some of them will not even be known or remembered again by you, yet the knowledge sticks there, and when you want to use it, they are readily available.

That is the same way I see this, you can learn through any source but just don't publish them the same way, but if you must, reference it, it is as simple as that. Chat GPT is not lesser than the books, information and articles we sort for and read both online and offline, they are just information, but the issue is that you should not plagiarise, you should be natural and creative in writing it down and I do not think there should be any other special rule/consideration for that.

Even if it is the word-for-word you need to write, you might want to quote it as created by Chat GPT, but you should limit it as much as possible. I've seen some people do that in the forum too. I mean reputable members.

[PytagoraZ]

In my opinion, there is no need for rules in using chat GPT because it is not our own thinking and using chat GPT is the same as using other people's thoughts.

Of course there is no problem if we discuss chat GPT. I liken it to a mixer that is prohibited from being promoted but we are allowed to discuss, like a drug that cannot be consumed but can be studied for research and treatment.

That sounds like a good idea. Chat GPT is used as a bot and guides beginners, so what will we do here if beginners have been helped by chat GPT? Maybe we will lose the discussion material. lol 

[tread93]

Here's me imitating ChatGPT while answering your question:

Certainly! While its true that theymos has yet to make a definitive statement regarding the use of ChatGPT on the Bitcointalk forum, several moderators have expressed independent opinions on the issue. Such opinions include regarding ChatGPT-authored posts as spam, as non-conducive to the forum's overall environment, and even being contrary to the ethos of an online forum.

It is important to remember that viewpoints of the staff may change without warning, and you should always check their recent posts for policy updates. It is essential to conduct one's own research on such an issue before taking actions based on the information provided in this response.

I just made a post quoting Chat GPT and I don't even know if that was following the rules.

As long as you mention the source (as you did) and properly format it you shoulnd't have any issues.

Yes. Quoting ChatGPT is fine. Its only a problem when people try to pretend they are the ones who wrote the material & want to take credit for it.

For example, I would much rather see this:

...
CHAT GPT SAYS THE FOLLOWING after my below prompting to it after I searched the proccess of signing one's bitcoin address since I have never actually done so nor knew the potential risks assumed once done:


"Would signing that message in any way compomise the security of the private key? What are the drawbacks to doing this for ones security both of their keys and of their location?
ChatGPT
Signing a message with a Bitcoin address does not directly compromise the security of the private key, as the key itself is never exposed or transmitted during the signing or verification process. ...

Than this:

I think Bitcoin is a dynamic and evolving digital asset, subject to price fluctuations, regulatory developments, and technological advancements, as of my most recent knowledge update in January 2024.

Just something duplicitous about taking credit for stuff written by somebody/something else. It shouldn't be tolerated or we will soon be overrun by it.

Thank you M8 for spelling this out the way you did! I also liked the use of Chat GPT to not only show how robotic that response looks but also it displays more context in the analysis of what others on the forum are saying about this topic from the very beginning.

I would definitely have to agree that anyone trying to take credit for a compilation of what other people wrote put together by computers is just downright preposterous!

[hugeblack]

The development of A.I. applications is the key. We have reached a point that makes it difficult to discover them using traditional methods. It is then impossible to know whether that publication was written or if it was text re-generated by artificial intelligence.
It is true that so far these applications have not developed to that degree, but who knows what will happen in the future.

[LoyceV]

Short answer: bots have to follow the same rules as humans.

Long answer: chatbots should be banned! I couldn't care less about the "opinion" of a language model that can spit out millions of "opinions" per minute. It's utterly pointless to care about. If you put it inside quote tags, at least it's not plagiarism. But it's still completely uninteresting, and I quickly click Ignore on users who do this.

What about as a research tool? Chat GPT really helps to you skip the learning curve if you know how to use it correctly.

This is how you post BS. That spambot doesn't "understand" anything.

I use it as a way to enrich myself and educating myself

Then search for the original of the data, instead of using a language model that puts data together without having any idea whether or not it's accurate.

Thank you M8

This is what I read:

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This is Bitcointalk, not Facebook. It's very annoying to read a text if the author is too lazy to type a word.

It would be better if chatbots get banned from the internet! They plagiarize by definition, by sharing other people's work without giving credit. Ban them, ban those companies. Put the lid back on Pandora's box before it's too late.

[hd49728]

I know that there are probably rules, somewhere that I haven't looked. In general I feel like noboby has really posted Rules to Chat GPT. Of course I know its foolish to use it direcly as if you are the one who created the text/thought but what about quoting?

If you use content from any source to post, you must announce it is not your own content by

- Using a quote block
- Leaving a source link
By don't claim it is your own content, you don't plagiarize and will not be permanent banned.

And What about as a research tool? Chat GPT really helps to you skip the learning curve if you know how to use it correctly. It has helped me loads with simply understanding complex thought that I didn't undertand.

You are free to use any tool for learning, researching and even correcting your grammar. ChatGTP is one of them but don't use ChatGPT to compose a post for you, then copy and paste it in this forum. Without source, you will be banned. With a source, it still looks odds because you look to be lazy.

I just made a post quoting Chat GPT and I don't even know if that was following the rules.

You will not be banned, but what is a point by doing this?

[Solosanz]

You propose a thing that will kill the forum, whenever someone create a thread, every user shouldn't give a reply because it's considered as spam (if the @OP know the answer by using CHAT GPT, why you need to post it again)?

It's similar like you're asking anything to your friends and your friends replied you "use google" instead of giving the actual answer.